IRC log of #meego for Thursday, 2010-03-11

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Votanany word on a release date for the first MeeGo 1.0 image ?00:42
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CosmoHillq2 or q300:50
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VotanCosmoHill is that for a final or the first alpha/beta/RC ?00:53
CosmoHillearly release00:53
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Votani see, god damn, that's quite some time i've to wait then :>00:54
detective_erm one question about the proposals in the wiki, in future the community/users can vote for one or how will this go on?00:55
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DawnFoster1votan: have you read valtteri's post: http://meego.com/community/blogs/valhalla/2010/towards-day-one It has some more details on release dates.00:58
Votanunfortunately i didnt, will do so now. thx for the link00:59
CosmoHillhello DawnFoster101:00
* CosmoHill goes to read too01:00
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DawnFoster1hi CosmoHill01:00
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CosmoHilli should go onto the meego site and gather info so i can help answer questions01:29
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detective_CosmoHill: answer my question :D01:43
CosmoHill"yes"01:43
CosmoHillwhatever it was, yes01:43
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uhsfi wish meegoog for x86 would be there soon01:49
CosmoHillMeego01:52
CosmoHillYouGo01:53
CosmoHillWeego :)01:53
burchrIGo01:53
RST38hTheyGo01:54
burchrI think RST38h wins01:54
RST38hBut have your all forgotten YourGo? =)01:55
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javispedroSheGo?01:56
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RST38hHerGo!01:57
RST38hand HisGo, of course01:57
uhsfi like everyone messing with the name everytime it's written or pronounced i wish it becomes the universal meme for this os as much as it's name sucks and i hate it01:58
RST38hHaven't you forgotten a few commas there?01:58
burchrwho needs punctuation anyway.01:59
uhsfMeeGo, YoouGo, HiimGo, HeerGo, UssGo, TheemGo02:00
javispedroPunctuationHereWeGo02:01
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uhsfDayGo Linux would've been nice02:02
RST38hNoGo02:02
RST38hNokia Nova!02:02
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uhsfNova Linux if fine02:02
javispedroiGo02:03
RST38hLinux no va indeed...02:03
RST38hok, time to get social, a little bit02:03
javispedroyou're going to facebook? =)02:03
javispedro;)02:03
uhsf+ Va means Go in French02:04
RST38hNo, I am going to see some *live* people02:04
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CosmoHill:)02:15
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trip0"live" people?  they still have those?02:23
CosmoHillmost people are dead but yes, there are some live ones about02:28
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ml-mobilehmm02:32
CosmoHillbut not for long...02:32
ml-mobilejaaksi keynote and two meego workgroups at the linux foundation summit02:33
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CosmoHillnight night02:52
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netizenI was wondering does this mean that Nokia is planning to place Qt under the terms of an opensource license?04:55
hflakisn't opensource now already?04:58
Hydroxidenetizen: Qt is already LGPL04:59
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Hydroxidenetizen: actually there are two opensource license options available and one proprietary option. see here: http://qt.nokia.com/products/licensing05:00
hflakwill meego be able to run j2me?05:00
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Hydroxidehflak: no public announcement has stated so, which means one of three answers: (1) there will be official support but they haven't decided that yet; (2) there will be official support but the people who know aren't allowed to publicize it yet; (3) there won't be official support but the community is welcome to implement it like they did with MMS support on the n90005:04
BliceWhat signal number is USR2?05:04
Bliceoh wrong channel05:04
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Hydroxidehflak: I can't see any reason why the community wouldn't be able to implement it if Intel and Nokia don't05:04
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jebbaMiGo  :)  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mi-go05:34
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swc|666jebba, i knew it was some evil alien plot :s07:12
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amjadso whats the future of meego10:22
Stskeepspink ponies, obviously10:22
lonedodgerWell that went right over my head :-) pink ponies ?10:23
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Stskeepsas in, who knows what the future is, but it is definately glorious. just like pink ponies.10:24
Stskeeps:P10:24
lonedodgerI must admit from the moment I looked at the N900 I was hooked. The transition from Moblin for my netbook is also of interest10:26
lonedodgerI actually didn't think I would step back linux ... $10384AU for development toolset for windows finally did it for me ;-)10:27
lonedodgertoo linux. sorry10:28
TigerTaellol10:29
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amjadhmm, the faqs says the package management is based on rpm format, so do u need any package maintainer11:09
thiagohuh?11:10
Stskeepsamjad: i'm sure there'll be opportunity for package maintainers :)11:11
amjadgood i was expecting on download page atleast rpm format for downloading qt-creater if not deb11:11
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thiagothe Qt Creator download is for all distros, not just those RPM-based11:15
thiagoit's not an LSB package either11:15
amjadok11:17
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lupine_85surely most distributions have qt-creator already available?11:34
thiagonot the latest11:35
thiagofor example, if today we release Qt Creator 2.0 alpha 1, how soon until most distributions get it?11:35
lupine_85gentoo and arch - about 5 minutes ;)11:36
lupine_85but yeah11:36
thiagoI doubt the Gentoo maintainers are pressing F5 on the Qt website every day, 24 hours a day11:37
lupine_85no, they just track git head. they're a bit crazy at times11:37
thiagothat's not exactly the release...11:38
thiagothey can build the tag as soon as the tag becomes available though11:38
lupine_85mm11:38
thiagobut that requires switching to the tag in the first place11:38
lupine_85ho de hum, karmic has 1.2.1-3ubuntu111:38
thiagothat's even old. The latest is 1.3.1.11:39
thiagothe current master has Maemo build support.11:39
lupine_85built-in crosscompile? that's quite snazzy11:39
thiagowell, provided you install the Maemo tools11:40
thiagoMADDE11:40
* lupine_85 has gotton away with just scratchbox + dpkg-buildpackage on maemo so far11:41
thiagowhat distribution are you using?11:41
lupine_85at home, lucid11:41
thiagowhat's "lucid" ?11:42
lupine_85ubuntu 10.0411:42
thiago32-bit?11:42
lupine_85nah, 64-bit11:42
thiagowell, the fact that you're using Ubuntu is one reason why it has worked for you11:42
thiagowe haven't managed to get scratchbox working on Fedora, OpenSUSE and Mandriva11:42
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thiagosince most of our developers are using non-Ubuntu, requiring Ubuntu or Debian wasn't an option for us11:43
thiagoamong other reasons11:43
lupine_85cross-compilation environments do seem to be a bit of a Dark Art(tm)11:43
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thiagothat may be11:44
lupine_85I've got a toolchain for my adsl router that won't work anywhere but in a sarge 32-bit VM11:44
thiagobut at least that's something we understood, whereas scratchbox was dark art for us11:44
* lupine_85 absently wonders who 'we' and 'us' are in this context11:45
thiagoNokia, Qt11:45
lupine_85ah, that makes sense11:46
abthiago, scratchbox works for me in Fedora. You need to understand what are you doing when installing but other than that, it works. Some modifications to SE policies are required for some badly written proprietary code in opengl drivers in Fremantle 386 target though11:46
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thiagonot saying it's impossible11:47
* lupine_85 was tempted to up sticks to helsinki and apply for a job with nokia/qt (not necessarily in that order ;) ) back when you guys were recruiting11:47
thiagoit is Linux software, after all11:47
thiagobut it wasn't easy for us11:47
thiagolupine_85: we're recruiting11:47
thiagoand Qt is not in Helsinki11:47
thiagoOslo, Berlin or Brisbane11:48
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lupine_85if you're still recruiting in a couple of years ;), it's definitely a possibility for me11:48
lupine_85kittens need to grow up and partner needs to be convinced first :D11:48
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_macroshere an interesting link related to a little discussion we had yesterday about how will be the meego sdk11:54
_macroshttp://zchydem.enume.net/2010/03/10/madde-and-qt-creator-integration/11:54
_macrosthis for sure is a good way11:55
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lupine_85erm11:58
lupine_85this mad-developer thing11:58
lupine_85don't tell me it's doing the compiling /on/ the N900?11:58
Stskeepsof course not11:59
Stskeeps:P11:59
lupine_85good :)11:59
lupine_85because that would be silly ;)12:00
ShadowJKalmost as silly as bootstrapping gentoo on N81012:01
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Termana_n810I think ShadowJK is looking for trouble from the n810 gentoo guys12:01
Termana_n810:P12:01
ShadowJK:)12:02
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lupine_85mmmm, chroot12:03
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CosmoHillcan anyone access everydns.net?15:16
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slaineCosmoHill: doesn't seem to be responding15:16
CosmoHillthanks15:16
slaineright, lunch15:17
CosmoHillsame15:17
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amjadwhats for lunch :)15:19
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CosmoHilllets see what's in the fridge15:20
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* CosmoHill noms a cheese sandwich15:26
amjadmmmmmmmmmmmm15:26
CosmoHillno meat or salad in the fridge :(15:26
amjad:(15:27
CosmoHillmight have a yogurt later15:27
CosmoHillor beans on toast15:27
MyrttiI just tossed most of the contents of our fridge to bin15:28
Myrttinot that there's too much left anyway15:28
slaineI've been sick for a few days and am ravenous15:28
slainemight have to head to the chipper for a big stodgey lunch15:28
Myrttiyou have my full sympathies, I think I had the noro couple weeks back15:28
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CosmoHillmost of the time if i get ill it's a cold, i get very bad colds but they only last for about 8 hours15:29
CosmoHillso instead of feeling bad for a few days i feel very bad for most of a day15:30
slaineI'd a temp for about 1.5 days15:30
slaineweird dreams15:30
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CosmoHillmy DNS server is down15:35
AVeeMake you a bit down as well? ;)15:36
CosmoHilla tad15:36
CosmoHilli need it to work for tomorrow otherwise we can't access the ftp or the website for group design15:37
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CosmoHilleverydns got bought my dyndns15:38
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AVeeAh, dyndns, haven't used that in ages...15:40
AVeeBut it's down and runs you dns?15:40
CosmoHillmy other domains are static15:40
CosmoHilli need to update my ip but their website is down15:41
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amjadii hate filing taxes :(15:55
CosmoHillyay16:00
CosmoHilleverydns is back16:00
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Moe4/topic16:41
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CosmoHillwell my server is having a fun time at 100% load16:42
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yimingwhois17:17
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* CosmoHill is rewriting his friends location php code17:39
slaineCosmoHill: very nice of you17:41
CosmoHillI've seen the way he's done it and I think it can be improved17:41
CosmoHillthere's a small klash between our coding styles17:41
slaineHow condescending of you ;)17:42
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CosmoHillhehe17:42
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slaineany debian users here ?17:49
slainelol, of course there is17:49
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slaineOn Fedora, Moblin, I'm used to doing yum groupinstall "Development Tools" to get compilers and autotools etc. installed17:50
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slaineis there an equiv for Debian/Ubuntu ?17:50
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hcl2slaine: i think it's build-essentials or something like that17:56
ShadowJKapt-get install build-essential17:56
ShadowJKor essentials17:56
ShadowJKsomething like that..17:56
hcl2i only know that because I just read it yesterday17:56
slaineyeah, it's essential17:56
slainecouple of things needed, so I made a script that I'll sudo run17:57
* CosmoHill grrs17:57
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CosmoHillhis if statments are all nested and hard to work out what is going on17:58
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lanhi18:07
lanhello18:07
lanis18:07
lanany one there18:07
lanHELLO hello hello hello gess no wons there18:08
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lanbeach18:08
slainehello18:08
slaineis anyone there18:08
lanyes18:08
slainehello ?18:08
slaineI could have sworn I heard something18:09
lanhow are you18:09
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slainesuper18:09
slainehow are you18:09
lanfin18:09
lanare you a boy or girle18:09
slainelol18:09
slaineI'm haven't been one of those for a very long time18:10
lanha  :)18:10
lanso wot do you do for fun18:10
slainetalk to strangers on the internet18:10
RST38hAh, how original!18:11
CosmoHilllike in IRC or like my friend does where they go A/S/L and when you say male they go offline?18:11
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slainelol18:11
lanis slaine your real name18:11
slaineerm, I was kidding of course18:11
VDVsxlol18:11
slainelan, you're freaking me out now18:11
lansorry18:12
RST38hslaine,VDVsx: So, folks, do you think this guy will pass Turing test?18:12
VDVsxeheheheh18:12
lanno18:12
CosmoHillwe'll find out18:12
slainelan, Are you a human18:12
RST38hthought so18:12
lanyes18:12
slaineOr are you a voice recording18:12
RST38hlan: Where are you from?18:12
cyberkonsultRST38h: ROFL (for 3 min...)18:12
lanst.lucia18:12
RST38hlan: Do you like cats?18:13
lanyes i have one18:13
slaineIs it a lolcat18:13
RST38hlan: Do you like rabbits?18:13
lanyes18:13
RST38hlan: What else do you like?18:13
slaineRST38h: I've never heard of a lolrabbit18:13
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cyberkonsultRST38h: OMG stop!! Your are killing me  (tears running down...)18:13
lanha ha18:14
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lanso do you like cat18:14
RST38hAha, asking it questions that require extra information in the response causes it to evade18:14
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RST38hlan: Large green hedgehogs are traveling toward the hills?18:15
lanwere are you from18:15
cyberkonsultfailed the T test!18:15
RST38hYep. Looks like it is a bot, indeed18:16
threshhaving fun here, boys? :)18:16
VDVsx~chase lan18:16
* infobot chases lan18:16
hcl2thresh: a/s/l?18:16
VDVsxinfobot, bad bot!18:16
infobotBad bot!, bad! No cookie for you!18:16
threshhcl2: YES!18:16
RST38hthresh: Proving my point that quite a few Internet users will in fact fail the Turing test18:16
* Myrtti spanks hcl2 18:16
threshhcl2: all of the above!18:16
lanyou did not anser my question :D18:16
RST38hlan: ~leave18:16
threshRST38h: yep. "äÅÔÑÍ ÎÅÌØÚÑ × ÉÎÔÅÒÎÅÔ. ïÔ ÎÉÈ ÏÎ ÔÕÐÅÅÔ."18:17
RST38hlan: !leave18:17
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hcl2lan: !party18:17
MaulkinDoes anyone have a wizard hat and cape?18:17
RST38hMaulkin: Would you like a doomsday weapon with that?18:18
Myrtti... the quality of this channel is really in rapid decline18:18
hcl2is there any public reason why the code repo is hidden until the end of the month?18:18
thiagono18:18
RST38hhcl: secrecy.18:19
Myrttihcl2: magic and ponies18:19
thiagothere's a reason and it's a good one18:19
hcl2but it's a secret reason?18:19
slaineyes18:19
hcl2people don't want to look like noobs with their empty commit logs?18:19
slainehcl2: my guess is that they haven't figure out what to put in it yet18:19
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hcl2yes, a year is not enough time to decide what to put in a code repo18:20
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slainehcl2: A year ?18:22
lannow you see hcl218:22
lanyou are one son of a beach18:22
hcl2slaine: 8-9 months, a year, what's the diff18:22
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slainehcl2: I wish I could make up numbers just like that18:22
VDVsxlan, can you borrow me $5000 ? :D18:23
lany18:23
VDVsxawesome, lol18:23
VDVsxdoes someone has Ops around here ?18:24
lando you have a psp18:24
MaulkinI can fetch them if needed. Is everyone bored of the kid yet?18:24
RST38hyes, it is an annoying bot18:24
Myrttilan: ohai18:25
VDVsxif he had a N900, but a PSP, babb18:25
Myrttiaww, it doesn't like me18:25
lanwho are you18:25
RST38hMyrtti: Probably thinks you are a man18:25
Maulkinlan: how old are you?18:26
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lan2018:26
MyrttiRST38h: or a dog18:26
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lanhow old are you18:26
MaulkinOh come now lan, that's a horrible lie, isn't it?18:26
lanno18:26
* RST38h can see Turing turning in his coffin18:26
lanmaby18:26
lan kind of18:27
MaulkinSee, now it's aways good to tell the truth. We won't get angry unelss you tell fibs to us.18:27
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lanwot makes you fink that i will lie to you18:28
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lanbecouse am older yunger18:29
VDVsxoh my... :P18:29
lanvery fanny :D  ha ha ha18:30
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RST38hmoo wazd18:33
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VDVsxwazd1, btw, where's your UI video ? didn't see it :D18:34
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lando you know babybeckham song on youtube his in my school go woth it18:35
wazd1VDVsx: ohwell, it's still baking up :)18:35
VDVsx~lart lan18:35
* infobot cats /dev/urandom into lan's ear18:35
wazd1VDVsx: have extreme ammount of work to do right now, so no time for games yet :)18:35
VDVsxwazd1, UI work ? :D18:36
wazd1VDVsx: but it will kick some ^3 ass for sure :D18:36
wazd1VDVsx: unfortunately no :(18:36
VDVsx:(18:36
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wazd1VDVsx: that's why it's so exhausting for me :)18:36
VDVsxthere's a new video video of ^3 around18:36
DarkDRUNKMANdeb18:36
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lando you know about naruto the grates video in the wold if you seach for it any were you mus get a video about it tack be kefull you can get adic ted to it18:39
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RichiHlan: you seem to be kind of random18:40
lanha :)18:40
lansorry :|18:41
RST38hlan: !ping18:41
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RST38hMust be using a different prefix...18:42
landid you hear about the eathquake in haiti18:42
RST38hlan: @ping18:42
RichiHlan: seriously though, please try to keep your chatting related to meego18:44
lanoh sorry :'(18:44
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lanhay wat a second and who are you to tell me wot to do18:45
* CosmoHill is pleased with himself18:45
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lanno its not tru thats inpossibla18:47
* RST38h sighs18:48
MaulkinRichiH: Welcome :P18:48
Maulkinlan: You really should be polite to people.18:48
RST38hJust ban the bot already18:49
lansorry that was not me it was my pevet of a friend18:50
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AVeeAnd both of you are incapable of typing capitals at the start of a sentence?18:52
lanha ha ha very funny :p18:54
* burchr headdesks18:54
RST38hAVee: the AI code probably does not use capitals, it is easier to write this way18:55
lanthanks18:56
RST38hAVee: When left alone, it will send messages about random current events to the channel, formatted in teenage speak, expecting a response18:56
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lanyes i have heard that too18:57
RST38hIt will then engage victims who answer it into a standard a/s/l-type conversations18:57
VDVsxRST38h, can we teach him ? :p18:58
lanyes my friend was toking to a pc18:59
RST38hThe classic method to detect that it is a bot is to ask it questions that do not contain information that can be used as an answer. The bot will be unable to "answer", trying to randomly change the discussion topic18:59
RST38hVDVsx: Banning will probably be more beneficial18:59
VDVsxof course ;)18:59
RST38hVDVsx: I doubt it is a complex automation, most likely has this stuff hardwired18:59
lanwaite18:59
lanyou have to tell it if its a m/f19:00
RST38hVDVsx: See? =)19:01
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VDVsxRST38h, yeah it's a bit stupid ;)19:01
AVeeYeah, and this one is not amongst the most clever ones i've seen. Although I liked the 'that was my friend' excuse.19:02
RST38hA simulated split personality disorder is kinda nice touch, yes19:02
lanyes19:03
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Myrttijust ignore the troll19:04
RST38hMyrtti: See the point about randomly throwing in topics related to current events.19:05
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lanMyrtti:are you a m/f of or pc19:07
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lanif you are a pc i have 2 very inportant wods for you fuck off19:08
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lan.>19:10
Myrttilan: a) my gender is none of your business b) you've not talked anything about meego while you've been to this channel c) for gods sakes, learn to spell d) oh puhleeze.19:11
RST38hAnd e) for EXTERMINATE! ? =)19:11
tybollt!19:12
VDVsxcan someone kick the bot ? :D19:12
amjadi assume meego kernel will be based on 2.6.3019:12
cyberkonsultVDVsx: hear hear19:12
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shabzmeego kernel will be later19:13
shabz33 or more19:13
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lannow wot did my firend did19:14
CosmoHillVDVsx: +119:14
lansorry i will state kippen the laptop a way from him19:14
CosmoHill(on a side note, this is the only channel where you can say something and other people will go +1 or -1)19:14
VDVsxfriend excuse again, lol19:14
tybollt:D19:15
lan :)19:15
RST38hVDVsx: Whole thing reminds on Peter Watts' Blindsight19:16
RST38hs/on/of19:16
lano and sorry for all the fings my friend been sead19:16
amjadis nokia planning a contest like android developer contest (by google)19:16
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lanMyrtti i am very sorry for my friend19:17
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leiniramjad: there's one going at the moment, i believe... though it's less Maemo and more "Change the world" sort of stuff :)19:18
CosmoHilllan: windows key + L19:19
leinirForum Nokia's Calling All Innovators competition - http://www.callingallinnovators.com/19:19
lanCosmoHill:alt+f419:20
CosmoHillbut you want to lock the computer, not quit the program19:21
amjadahh , it is localized for countries19:21
VDVsxleinir, amjad , "Best application for the Nokia N900: $50,000 (USD) in cash."19:21
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VDVsxnot bad :)19:21
leinirVDVsx: Indeed, 'tis a pretty hard core competition :)19:21
th0br0problem is: is it supposed to be for maemo or for meego, in gtk or in qt?19:21
lando you know any for sonyericsson19:22
VDVsxsame for the best Qt based app19:22
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VDVsxth0br0, Maemo it seems19:22
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RST38hVDVsx: are there submissions already?19:22
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VDVsxerr, that I don't know19:23
VDVsxRST38h, 18 may19:23
VDVsx*until19:23
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lanCosmoHill: you see that big botten on your window 99 live your finger on it and live this to the new windos 719:25
CosmoHillhuh?19:25
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lanCosmoHill: you live in the past19:26
RST38heek19:26
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CosmoHillI'm confused, what?19:27
CosmoHillI had windows 7 before it was on sail, so i would be in the future?19:27
lanCosmoHill: widows 7 gest got out of stile now is windos 819:29
VDVsxCosmoHill, lan is a bot programmed by M$, running windows 8, so he wins :D19:29
VDVsxlol19:29
AVeeIt's an evil MS plan to destroy OSS by getting everybody distracted.19:29
lanwot makes you fink that19:30
AVeeyou :P19:30
lanok lets stop fulling around people i am a real person with my laptop in a caffa19:31
CosmoHillCafé19:31
lanAVee o and i for got :p19:32
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cyberkonsultAnyone know about Sandybridge.. Will meego target those devices?19:33
lanthats the first time i heard about that19:34
VDVsxisn't that Intel stuff ?19:34
* VDVsx googles19:34
tybolltVDVsx: and...?19:34
CosmoHillisn't that an i3 with a built in gpu?19:34
tybolltVDVsx: you know intel IS the other prong of the meego fork :D19:34
cyberkonsultThere seem to be support for Sandybridge in 2.6.3419:35
slainecyberkonsult: depends on what version of kernel/xorg driver they ship with meego19:35
VDVsxtybollt, lol, I was just asking, don't read between my words19:35
tybollt;)19:35
cyberkonsultSo the code release shold be before the 2.6.34 release??19:36
cyberkonsults/shold/should/19:36
infobotcyberkonsult meant: So the code release should be before the 2.6.34 release??19:36
cyberkonsultDarned bot..19:36
tybolltyou mean the _initial_ code release? Kernels are a highly moving target :)19:37
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cyberkonsultRight... just trying to get some conversation in here not related to the darned bor19:38
cyberkonsultbot19:38
cyberkonsult;)19:38
th0br0cyberkonsult: well, afaik it's supposed to be this month ^^19:38
cyberkonsultSo, by the end of this month we will have 2.6.33 as the kernel ??19:39
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amjadwell cyberkonsult the current stable linux kernel version is 2.6.3319:45
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lani downladed a file named bot ditecter and it told me that there was more than five bot wothing wot we was saing19:45
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tybolltlan: hello19:46
* lupine_85 wonders if "amjad" is a relatively common name19:46
amjadand the main is 2.6.34 release candidate 119:46
amjadlol lupine_85:)19:46
cyberkonsultI was reading of all the glorious things in 2.6.34 and was hoping for meego code release with that!19:46
lanhello :)19:46
lupine_85I've dealt with another amjad/amgad in the course of business, is all :)19:47
amjadhmm, that is interesting19:47
lupine_85(I'm guessing you're not the same one, since your english isn't worse than lan's)19:47
lansome people fink i am a bot19:47
lupine_85nah, computers can spell19:47
amjaddid that amjad/amgad worked on powerpc/CELL B.E??19:48
* cyberkonsult thinks lan is a bored troll19:48
lani am not a computer19:48
lupine_85no, more legally grey areas19:48
amjadok19:48
cyberkonsultluping_85: He worked for Microsoft?19:49
lupine_85got several takedown requests but we couldn't find any solid legal basis to shut him down :/19:49
tybolltlupine_85: who?19:49
lanhelloty bollt19:49
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lupine_85cable tv theft19:50
tybolltheh19:50
tybolltw/ HD and pairing there is no more cable TV theft19:51
lupine_85the little decoder boxes are really complex these days19:51
tybollt1-0 hollywood19:51
lando you have a phone tybollt19:51
lupine_85they dial up to servers to get the latest month's keys19:51
tybolltlan: YES! Please CALL ME!!!19:51
RST38hhas been like this for years19:51
lanwots your number19:52
tybolltWell, pairing is kind of new19:52
* RST38h remembers reading of an epic battle between sat tv pirates and Hughes19:52
tybollt7msg lan +46-0620-5992831219:52
RST38hWith Hughes slowly assembling the new anti-hack firmware on their hacked cards, piece by signed piece, coming from space19:53
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RST38hAnd when the last piece arrived... well... :E19:53
tybolltRST38h: so they eventually beat the pirates?19:53
lupine_851-800-SEXBOT19:53
lanyes i have it i will text you later or to night19:54
tybolltlupine_85: ssssh, don't ruin this now :)19:54
RST38htybollt: Well, they have beaten everyone with a certain set of card versions and not ugin card emulator when the last packet came19:54
lupine_85;)19:54
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RST38htybollt: the later card versions were considered unhackable at the time19:54
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RST38htybollt: But that was years ago, I have no idea what this field looks like right now. Google.19:54
tybolltsure19:55
tybolltand19:55
* tybollt &19:55
* lupine_85 pokes mobile ipv6 some more19:55
lupine_85I can do it!19:55
RST38hThe card itself is basically a standard SmartCard with memory, CPU and a custom ASIC that directly decodes the data packets19:55
hcl2meego is planing to run on arm and atom at launch?19:55
lupine_85yeah, n900 and atom box19:55
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hcl2i want to try it on smartq519:56
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* lupine_85 tends to s/unhackable/unsinkable/19:56
lando you still go to school tybollt19:56
RST38h(should someone force the "n900 atom box" meme to further mystify the public? :))19:56
lupine_85:p19:57
lupine_85forced meme is not a mem19:57
lupine_85..e19:57
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slainewill it support arm7 ?20:05
slaineI'm looking at some Cortex A9 gear20:06
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lanhello20:06
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lanis any won here20:06
RST38h<facepalm>20:06
CosmoHillslaine: probably20:07
VDVsxagain...20:07
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lanVDVsx are you a boy or a girl i am a boy20:08
fralslol20:08
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slonopotamus<_<20:10
lani am reach my dad is t-pain20:10
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CosmoHillVDVsx: i think he likes you20:11
VDVsxeheh20:11
* slonopotamus error: cannot parse input. Segmentation fault (core dumped)20:11
VDVsxlan, where are the $5000 that you promised to borrow me ???? grrr20:12
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CosmoHillhahahah20:13
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slainecommute time20:13
slainecatch you lot later or perhaps tomorrow20:13
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rrykhello20:14
rryki have a question about meego20:14
leiniri'm sure you do :)20:15
slonopotamusrryk, don't worry, that's ok, we'll try to help you.20:15
rrykwhether meego will be available on Nokia n90020:15
leinirYou have, of course, googled this before asking? ;)20:15
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leinirSince the availability of MeeGo for the N900 was announced on the MeeGo blog earlier this month :)20:16
lupine_85it will, by all accounts20:16
rrykyes but i found nothing20:16
lupine_85I'll rephrase that, it'd better ;)20:16
rrykwow it's great20:16
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rrykand i have one more question20:16
leinirIt's the official ARM test device for MeeGo :)20:17
leinirSo... you can be pretty sure that it will ;)20:17
rryksimultaneously with wysjciem meego, you will get a new phone from Nokia20:17
rrykCzy jednoczesnie z wyjsciem meego pojawi sie jakis nowy telefon od nokii20:17
rrykCan the same time the output meego happens to have a new phone from Nokia20:18
rryksorry20:18
rryk:D20:18
rrykiI use google translator20:18
rryk:D20:18
leinir...you clearly do ;)20:18
leinirAnd google translate is not really good for asking questions ;)20:19
leinirTry yourself ;)20:19
burchrrryk: such information isn't public, so, that isn't known20:19
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rryki dont speak english :D20:19
leinirOh, you mean "when will we see the first official MeeGo device from Nokia"? :)20:19
rrykthat only sentence what i know in english20:20
VDVsxthere will be a new phone at least, the one with maemo6/harmattan/meego 1.020:20
VDVsx:D20:20
rrykyes20:20
rryki mean when will we see the first official MeeGo device from Nokia20:20
burchrrryk: not known20:21
leinirIn that case, what burchr said: No-one who knows the answer to that is able to tell us yet :)20:21
rrykok thanks I asked this question only because I intend to buy a n900 and I wonder whether it not be better to wait a20:23
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leinirThat depends20:24
leinirDo you like hardware keyboard, or touch-screen keyboards?20:24
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leinirDo you like capacitative or ressistive screens?20:24
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burchrthe n900 is here now, the other device is not20:25
burchrthere will always be more devices after that device20:25
leinirburchr: There is also that :)20:25
triplezerothere will always be another device20:25
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triplezeroi'm holding out until i know what device supports meego 3.020:26
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triplezerobut then a month later there will be a new device that supports 3.120:27
triplezeroso i may as well wait for that20:27
triplezeroetc... etc..20:27
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korgothhello all23:07
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