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Votan | any word on a release date for the first MeeGo 1.0 image ? | 00:42 |
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CosmoHill | q2 or q3 | 00:50 |
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Votan | CosmoHill is that for a final or the first alpha/beta/RC ? | 00:53 |
CosmoHill | early release | 00:53 |
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Votan | i see, god damn, that's quite some time i've to wait then :> | 00:54 |
detective_ | erm one question about the proposals in the wiki, in future the community/users can vote for one or how will this go on? | 00:55 |
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DawnFoster1 | votan: have you read valtteri's post: http://meego.com/community/blogs/valhalla/2010/towards-day-one It has some more details on release dates. | 00:58 |
Votan | unfortunately i didnt, will do so now. thx for the link | 00:59 |
CosmoHill | hello DawnFoster1 | 01:00 |
* CosmoHill goes to read too | 01:00 | |
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DawnFoster1 | hi CosmoHill | 01:00 |
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CosmoHill | i should go onto the meego site and gather info so i can help answer questions | 01:29 |
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detective_ | CosmoHill: answer my question :D | 01:43 |
CosmoHill | "yes" | 01:43 |
CosmoHill | whatever it was, yes | 01:43 |
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uhsf | i wish meegoog for x86 would be there soon | 01:49 |
CosmoHill | Meego | 01:52 |
CosmoHill | YouGo | 01:53 |
CosmoHill | Weego :) | 01:53 |
burchr | IGo | 01:53 |
RST38h | TheyGo | 01:54 |
burchr | I think RST38h wins | 01:54 |
RST38h | But have your all forgotten YourGo? =) | 01:55 |
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javispedro | SheGo? | 01:56 |
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RST38h | HerGo! | 01:57 |
RST38h | and HisGo, of course | 01:57 |
uhsf | i like everyone messing with the name everytime it's written or pronounced i wish it becomes the universal meme for this os as much as it's name sucks and i hate it | 01:58 |
RST38h | Haven't you forgotten a few commas there? | 01:58 |
burchr | who needs punctuation anyway. | 01:59 |
uhsf | MeeGo, YoouGo, HiimGo, HeerGo, UssGo, TheemGo | 02:00 |
javispedro | PunctuationHereWeGo | 02:01 |
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uhsf | DayGo Linux would've been nice | 02:02 |
RST38h | NoGo | 02:02 |
RST38h | Nokia Nova! | 02:02 |
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uhsf | Nova Linux if fine | 02:02 |
javispedro | iGo | 02:03 |
RST38h | Linux no va indeed... | 02:03 |
RST38h | ok, time to get social, a little bit | 02:03 |
javispedro | you're going to facebook? =) | 02:03 |
javispedro | ;) | 02:03 |
uhsf | + Va means Go in French | 02:04 |
RST38h | No, I am going to see some *live* people | 02:04 |
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CosmoHill | :) | 02:15 |
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trip0 | "live" people? they still have those? | 02:23 |
CosmoHill | most people are dead but yes, there are some live ones about | 02:28 |
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ml-mobile | hmm | 02:32 |
CosmoHill | but not for long... | 02:32 |
ml-mobile | jaaksi keynote and two meego workgroups at the linux foundation summit | 02:33 |
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CosmoHill | night night | 02:52 |
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XtisC | hi | 03:51 |
XtisC | hi | 03:52 |
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XtisC | hihihihihihi | 03:53 |
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netizen | I was wondering does this mean that Nokia is planning to place Qt under the terms of an opensource license? | 04:55 |
hflak | isn't opensource now already? | 04:58 |
Hydroxide | netizen: Qt is already LGPL | 04:59 |
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Hydroxide | netizen: actually there are two opensource license options available and one proprietary option. see here: http://qt.nokia.com/products/licensing | 05:00 |
hflak | will meego be able to run j2me? | 05:00 |
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Hydroxide | hflak: no public announcement has stated so, which means one of three answers: (1) there will be official support but they haven't decided that yet; (2) there will be official support but the people who know aren't allowed to publicize it yet; (3) there won't be official support but the community is welcome to implement it like they did with MMS support on the n900 | 05:04 |
Blice | What signal number is USR2? | 05:04 |
Blice | oh wrong channel | 05:04 |
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Hydroxide | hflak: I can't see any reason why the community wouldn't be able to implement it if Intel and Nokia don't | 05:04 |
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jebba | MiGo :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mi-go | 05:34 |
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swc|666 | jebba, i knew it was some evil alien plot :s | 07:12 |
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Rennamoetzz | hai | 08:59 |
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Stskeeps | morning | 09:14 |
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amjad | so whats the future of meego | 10:22 |
Stskeeps | pink ponies, obviously | 10:22 |
lonedodger | Well that went right over my head :-) pink ponies ? | 10:23 |
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Stskeeps | as in, who knows what the future is, but it is definately glorious. just like pink ponies. | 10:24 |
Stskeeps | :P | 10:24 |
lonedodger | I must admit from the moment I looked at the N900 I was hooked. The transition from Moblin for my netbook is also of interest | 10:26 |
lonedodger | I actually didn't think I would step back linux ... $10384AU for development toolset for windows finally did it for me ;-) | 10:27 |
lonedodger | too linux. sorry | 10:28 |
TigerTael | lol | 10:29 |
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amjad | hmm, the faqs says the package management is based on rpm format, so do u need any package maintainer | 11:09 |
thiago | huh? | 11:10 |
Stskeeps | amjad: i'm sure there'll be opportunity for package maintainers :) | 11:11 |
amjad | good i was expecting on download page atleast rpm format for downloading qt-creater if not deb | 11:11 |
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thiago | the Qt Creator download is for all distros, not just those RPM-based | 11:15 |
thiago | it's not an LSB package either | 11:15 |
amjad | ok | 11:17 |
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lupine_85 | surely most distributions have qt-creator already available? | 11:34 |
thiago | not the latest | 11:35 |
thiago | for example, if today we release Qt Creator 2.0 alpha 1, how soon until most distributions get it? | 11:35 |
lupine_85 | gentoo and arch - about 5 minutes ;) | 11:36 |
lupine_85 | but yeah | 11:36 |
thiago | I doubt the Gentoo maintainers are pressing F5 on the Qt website every day, 24 hours a day | 11:37 |
lupine_85 | no, they just track git head. they're a bit crazy at times | 11:37 |
thiago | that's not exactly the release... | 11:38 |
thiago | they can build the tag as soon as the tag becomes available though | 11:38 |
lupine_85 | mm | 11:38 |
thiago | but that requires switching to the tag in the first place | 11:38 |
lupine_85 | ho de hum, karmic has 1.2.1-3ubuntu1 | 11:38 |
thiago | that's even old. The latest is 1.3.1. | 11:39 |
thiago | the current master has Maemo build support. | 11:39 |
lupine_85 | built-in crosscompile? that's quite snazzy | 11:39 |
thiago | well, provided you install the Maemo tools | 11:40 |
thiago | MADDE | 11:40 |
* lupine_85 has gotton away with just scratchbox + dpkg-buildpackage on maemo so far | 11:41 | |
thiago | what distribution are you using? | 11:41 |
lupine_85 | at home, lucid | 11:41 |
thiago | what's "lucid" ? | 11:42 |
lupine_85 | ubuntu 10.04 | 11:42 |
thiago | 32-bit? | 11:42 |
lupine_85 | nah, 64-bit | 11:42 |
thiago | well, the fact that you're using Ubuntu is one reason why it has worked for you | 11:42 |
thiago | we haven't managed to get scratchbox working on Fedora, OpenSUSE and Mandriva | 11:42 |
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thiago | since most of our developers are using non-Ubuntu, requiring Ubuntu or Debian wasn't an option for us | 11:43 |
thiago | among other reasons | 11:43 |
lupine_85 | cross-compilation environments do seem to be a bit of a Dark Art(tm) | 11:43 |
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thiago | that may be | 11:44 |
lupine_85 | I've got a toolchain for my adsl router that won't work anywhere but in a sarge 32-bit VM | 11:44 |
thiago | but at least that's something we understood, whereas scratchbox was dark art for us | 11:44 |
* lupine_85 absently wonders who 'we' and 'us' are in this context | 11:45 | |
thiago | Nokia, Qt | 11:45 |
lupine_85 | ah, that makes sense | 11:46 |
ab | thiago, scratchbox works for me in Fedora. You need to understand what are you doing when installing but other than that, it works. Some modifications to SE policies are required for some badly written proprietary code in opengl drivers in Fremantle 386 target though | 11:46 |
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thiago | not saying it's impossible | 11:47 |
* lupine_85 was tempted to up sticks to helsinki and apply for a job with nokia/qt (not necessarily in that order ;) ) back when you guys were recruiting | 11:47 | |
thiago | it is Linux software, after all | 11:47 |
thiago | but it wasn't easy for us | 11:47 |
thiago | lupine_85: we're recruiting | 11:47 |
thiago | and Qt is not in Helsinki | 11:47 |
thiago | Oslo, Berlin or Brisbane | 11:48 |
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lupine_85 | if you're still recruiting in a couple of years ;), it's definitely a possibility for me | 11:48 |
lupine_85 | kittens need to grow up and partner needs to be convinced first :D | 11:48 |
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_macros | here an interesting link related to a little discussion we had yesterday about how will be the meego sdk | 11:54 |
_macros | http://zchydem.enume.net/2010/03/10/madde-and-qt-creator-integration/ | 11:54 |
_macros | this for sure is a good way | 11:55 |
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lupine_85 | erm | 11:58 |
lupine_85 | this mad-developer thing | 11:58 |
lupine_85 | don't tell me it's doing the compiling /on/ the N900? | 11:58 |
Stskeeps | of course not | 11:59 |
Stskeeps | :P | 11:59 |
lupine_85 | good :) | 11:59 |
lupine_85 | because that would be silly ;) | 12:00 |
ShadowJK | almost as silly as bootstrapping gentoo on N810 | 12:01 |
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Termana_n810 | I think ShadowJK is looking for trouble from the n810 gentoo guys | 12:01 |
Termana_n810 | :P | 12:01 |
ShadowJK | :) | 12:02 |
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lupine_85 | mmmm, chroot | 12:03 |
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CosmoHill | can anyone access everydns.net? | 15:16 |
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slaine | CosmoHill: doesn't seem to be responding | 15:16 |
CosmoHill | thanks | 15:16 |
slaine | right, lunch | 15:17 |
CosmoHill | same | 15:17 |
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amjad | whats for lunch :) | 15:19 |
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CosmoHill | lets see what's in the fridge | 15:20 |
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amjad | mmmmmmmmmmmm | 15:26 |
CosmoHill | no meat or salad in the fridge :( | 15:26 |
amjad | :( | 15:27 |
CosmoHill | might have a yogurt later | 15:27 |
CosmoHill | or beans on toast | 15:27 |
Myrtti | I just tossed most of the contents of our fridge to bin | 15:28 |
Myrtti | not that there's too much left anyway | 15:28 |
slaine | I've been sick for a few days and am ravenous | 15:28 |
slaine | might have to head to the chipper for a big stodgey lunch | 15:28 |
Myrtti | you have my full sympathies, I think I had the noro couple weeks back | 15:28 |
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CosmoHill | most of the time if i get ill it's a cold, i get very bad colds but they only last for about 8 hours | 15:29 |
CosmoHill | so instead of feeling bad for a few days i feel very bad for most of a day | 15:30 |
slaine | I'd a temp for about 1.5 days | 15:30 |
slaine | weird dreams | 15:30 |
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CosmoHill | my DNS server is down | 15:35 |
AVee | Make you a bit down as well? ;) | 15:36 |
CosmoHill | a tad | 15:36 |
CosmoHill | i need it to work for tomorrow otherwise we can't access the ftp or the website for group design | 15:37 |
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CosmoHill | everydns got bought my dyndns | 15:38 |
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AVee | Ah, dyndns, haven't used that in ages... | 15:40 |
AVee | But it's down and runs you dns? | 15:40 |
CosmoHill | my other domains are static | 15:40 |
CosmoHill | i need to update my ip but their website is down | 15:41 |
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amjad | ii hate filing taxes :( | 15:55 |
CosmoHill | yay | 16:00 |
CosmoHill | everydns is back | 16:00 |
CosmoHill | dammit | 16:01 |
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Moe | 4/topic | 16:41 |
Moe | erf | 16:41 |
CosmoHill | well my server is having a fun time at 100% load | 16:42 |
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yiming | whois | 17:17 |
amjad | #qt-creator | 17:18 |
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slaine | CosmoHill: very nice of you | 17:41 |
CosmoHill | I've seen the way he's done it and I think it can be improved | 17:41 |
CosmoHill | there's a small klash between our coding styles | 17:41 |
slaine | How condescending of you ;) | 17:42 |
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CosmoHill | hehe | 17:42 |
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slaine | any debian users here ? | 17:49 |
slaine | lol, of course there is | 17:49 |
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slaine | On Fedora, Moblin, I'm used to doing yum groupinstall "Development Tools" to get compilers and autotools etc. installed | 17:50 |
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slaine | is there an equiv for Debian/Ubuntu ? | 17:50 |
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hcl2 | slaine: i think it's build-essentials or something like that | 17:56 |
ShadowJK | apt-get install build-essential | 17:56 |
ShadowJK | or essentials | 17:56 |
ShadowJK | something like that.. | 17:56 |
hcl2 | i only know that because I just read it yesterday | 17:56 |
slaine | yeah, it's essential | 17:56 |
slaine | couple of things needed, so I made a script that I'll sudo run | 17:57 |
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CosmoHill | his if statments are all nested and hard to work out what is going on | 17:58 |
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lan | hi | 18:07 |
lan | hello | 18:07 |
lan | is | 18:07 |
lan | any one there | 18:07 |
lan | HELLO hello hello hello gess no wons there | 18:08 |
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lan | beach | 18:08 |
slaine | hello | 18:08 |
slaine | is anyone there | 18:08 |
lan | yes | 18:08 |
slaine | hello ? | 18:08 |
slaine | I could have sworn I heard something | 18:09 |
lan | how are you | 18:09 |
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slaine | super | 18:09 |
slaine | how are you | 18:09 |
lan | fin | 18:09 |
lan | are you a boy or girle | 18:09 |
slaine | lol | 18:09 |
slaine | I'm haven't been one of those for a very long time | 18:10 |
lan | ha :) | 18:10 |
lan | so wot do you do for fun | 18:10 |
slaine | talk to strangers on the internet | 18:10 |
RST38h | Ah, how original! | 18:11 |
CosmoHill | like in IRC or like my friend does where they go A/S/L and when you say male they go offline? | 18:11 |
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slaine | lol | 18:11 |
lan | is slaine your real name | 18:11 |
slaine | erm, I was kidding of course | 18:11 |
VDVsx | lol | 18:11 |
slaine | lan, you're freaking me out now | 18:11 |
lan | sorry | 18:12 |
RST38h | slaine,VDVsx: So, folks, do you think this guy will pass Turing test? | 18:12 |
VDVsx | eheheheh | 18:12 |
lan | no | 18:12 |
CosmoHill | we'll find out | 18:12 |
slaine | lan, Are you a human | 18:12 |
RST38h | thought so | 18:12 |
lan | yes | 18:12 |
slaine | Or are you a voice recording | 18:12 |
RST38h | lan: Where are you from? | 18:12 |
cyberkonsult | RST38h: ROFL (for 3 min...) | 18:12 |
lan | st.lucia | 18:12 |
RST38h | lan: Do you like cats? | 18:13 |
lan | yes i have one | 18:13 |
slaine | Is it a lolcat | 18:13 |
RST38h | lan: Do you like rabbits? | 18:13 |
lan | yes | 18:13 |
RST38h | lan: What else do you like? | 18:13 |
slaine | RST38h: I've never heard of a lolrabbit | 18:13 |
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cyberkonsult | RST38h: OMG stop!! Your are killing me (tears running down...) | 18:13 |
lan | ha ha | 18:14 |
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lan | so do you like cat | 18:14 |
RST38h | Aha, asking it questions that require extra information in the response causes it to evade | 18:14 |
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RST38h | lan: Large green hedgehogs are traveling toward the hills? | 18:15 |
lan | were are you from | 18:15 |
cyberkonsult | failed the T test! | 18:15 |
RST38h | Yep. Looks like it is a bot, indeed | 18:16 |
thresh | having fun here, boys? :) | 18:16 |
VDVsx | ~chase lan | 18:16 |
* infobot chases lan | 18:16 | |
hcl2 | thresh: a/s/l? | 18:16 |
VDVsx | infobot, bad bot! | 18:16 |
infobot | Bad bot!, bad! No cookie for you! | 18:16 |
thresh | hcl2: YES! | 18:16 |
RST38h | thresh: Proving my point that quite a few Internet users will in fact fail the Turing test | 18:16 |
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thresh | hcl2: all of the above! | 18:16 |
lan | you did not anser my question :D | 18:16 |
RST38h | lan: ~leave | 18:16 |
thresh | RST38h: yep. "äÅÔÑÍ ÎÅÌØÚÑ × ÉÎÔÅÒÎÅÔ. ïÔ ÎÉÈ ÏÎ ÔÕÐÅÅÔ." | 18:17 |
RST38h | lan: !leave | 18:17 |
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hcl2 | lan: !party | 18:17 |
Maulkin | Does anyone have a wizard hat and cape? | 18:17 |
RST38h | Maulkin: Would you like a doomsday weapon with that? | 18:18 |
Myrtti | ... the quality of this channel is really in rapid decline | 18:18 |
hcl2 | is there any public reason why the code repo is hidden until the end of the month? | 18:18 |
thiago | no | 18:18 |
RST38h | hcl: secrecy. | 18:19 |
Myrtti | hcl2: magic and ponies | 18:19 |
thiago | there's a reason and it's a good one | 18:19 |
hcl2 | but it's a secret reason? | 18:19 |
slaine | yes | 18:19 |
hcl2 | people don't want to look like noobs with their empty commit logs? | 18:19 |
slaine | hcl2: my guess is that they haven't figure out what to put in it yet | 18:19 |
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hcl2 | yes, a year is not enough time to decide what to put in a code repo | 18:20 |
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slaine | hcl2: A year ? | 18:22 |
lan | now you see hcl2 | 18:22 |
lan | you are one son of a beach | 18:22 |
hcl2 | slaine: 8-9 months, a year, what's the diff | 18:22 |
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slaine | hcl2: I wish I could make up numbers just like that | 18:22 |
VDVsx | lan, can you borrow me $5000 ? :D | 18:23 |
lan | y | 18:23 |
VDVsx | awesome, lol | 18:23 |
VDVsx | does someone has Ops around here ? | 18:24 |
lan | do you have a psp | 18:24 |
Maulkin | I can fetch them if needed. Is everyone bored of the kid yet? | 18:24 |
RST38h | yes, it is an annoying bot | 18:24 |
Myrtti | lan: ohai | 18:25 |
VDVsx | if he had a N900, but a PSP, babb | 18:25 |
Myrtti | aww, it doesn't like me | 18:25 |
lan | who are you | 18:25 |
RST38h | Myrtti: Probably thinks you are a man | 18:25 |
Maulkin | lan: how old are you? | 18:26 |
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lan | 20 | 18:26 |
Myrtti | RST38h: or a dog | 18:26 |
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lan | how old are you | 18:26 |
Maulkin | Oh come now lan, that's a horrible lie, isn't it? | 18:26 |
lan | no | 18:26 |
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lan | maby | 18:26 |
lan | kind of | 18:27 |
Maulkin | See, now it's aways good to tell the truth. We won't get angry unelss you tell fibs to us. | 18:27 |
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lan | wot makes you fink that i will lie to you | 18:28 |
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lan | becouse am older yunger | 18:29 |
VDVsx | oh my... :P | 18:29 |
lan | very fanny :D ha ha ha | 18:30 |
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RST38h | moo wazd | 18:33 |
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VDVsx | wazd1, btw, where's your UI video ? didn't see it :D | 18:34 |
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lan | do you know babybeckham song on youtube his in my school go woth it | 18:35 |
wazd1 | VDVsx: ohwell, it's still baking up :) | 18:35 |
VDVsx | ~lart lan | 18:35 |
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wazd1 | VDVsx: have extreme ammount of work to do right now, so no time for games yet :) | 18:35 |
VDVsx | wazd1, UI work ? :D | 18:36 |
wazd1 | VDVsx: but it will kick some ^3 ass for sure :D | 18:36 |
wazd1 | VDVsx: unfortunately no :( | 18:36 |
VDVsx | :( | 18:36 |
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wazd1 | VDVsx: that's why it's so exhausting for me :) | 18:36 |
VDVsx | there's a new video video of ^3 around | 18:36 |
DarkDRUNKMAN | deb | 18:36 |
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lan | do you know about naruto the grates video in the wold if you seach for it any were you mus get a video about it tack be kefull you can get adic ted to it | 18:39 |
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RichiH | lan: you seem to be kind of random | 18:40 |
lan | ha :) | 18:40 |
lan | sorry :| | 18:41 |
RST38h | lan: !ping | 18:41 |
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RST38h | Must be using a different prefix... | 18:42 |
lan | did you hear about the eathquake in haiti | 18:42 |
RST38h | lan: @ping | 18:42 |
RichiH | lan: seriously though, please try to keep your chatting related to meego | 18:44 |
lan | oh sorry :'( | 18:44 |
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lan | hay wat a second and who are you to tell me wot to do | 18:45 |
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lan | no its not tru thats inpossibla | 18:47 |
* RST38h sighs | 18:48 | |
Maulkin | RichiH: Welcome :P | 18:48 |
Maulkin | lan: You really should be polite to people. | 18:48 |
RST38h | Just ban the bot already | 18:49 |
lan | sorry that was not me it was my pevet of a friend | 18:50 |
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AVee | And both of you are incapable of typing capitals at the start of a sentence? | 18:52 |
lan | ha ha ha very funny :p | 18:54 |
* burchr headdesks | 18:54 | |
RST38h | AVee: the AI code probably does not use capitals, it is easier to write this way | 18:55 |
lan | thanks | 18:56 |
RST38h | AVee: When left alone, it will send messages about random current events to the channel, formatted in teenage speak, expecting a response | 18:56 |
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lan | yes i have heard that too | 18:57 |
RST38h | It will then engage victims who answer it into a standard a/s/l-type conversations | 18:57 |
VDVsx | RST38h, can we teach him ? :p | 18:58 |
lan | yes my friend was toking to a pc | 18:59 |
RST38h | The classic method to detect that it is a bot is to ask it questions that do not contain information that can be used as an answer. The bot will be unable to "answer", trying to randomly change the discussion topic | 18:59 |
RST38h | VDVsx: Banning will probably be more beneficial | 18:59 |
VDVsx | of course ;) | 18:59 |
RST38h | VDVsx: I doubt it is a complex automation, most likely has this stuff hardwired | 18:59 |
lan | waite | 18:59 |
lan | you have to tell it if its a m/f | 19:00 |
RST38h | VDVsx: See? =) | 19:01 |
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VDVsx | RST38h, yeah it's a bit stupid ;) | 19:01 |
AVee | Yeah, and this one is not amongst the most clever ones i've seen. Although I liked the 'that was my friend' excuse. | 19:02 |
RST38h | A simulated split personality disorder is kinda nice touch, yes | 19:02 |
lan | yes | 19:03 |
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Myrtti | just ignore the troll | 19:04 |
RST38h | Myrtti: See the point about randomly throwing in topics related to current events. | 19:05 |
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lan | Myrtti:are you a m/f of or pc | 19:07 |
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lan | if you are a pc i have 2 very inportant wods for you fuck off | 19:08 |
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* CosmoHill is done with php for now | 19:09 | |
lan | .> | 19:10 |
Myrtti | lan: a) my gender is none of your business b) you've not talked anything about meego while you've been to this channel c) for gods sakes, learn to spell d) oh puhleeze. | 19:11 |
RST38h | And e) for EXTERMINATE! ? =) | 19:11 |
tybollt | ! | 19:12 |
VDVsx | can someone kick the bot ? :D | 19:12 |
amjad | i assume meego kernel will be based on 2.6.30 | 19:12 |
cyberkonsult | VDVsx: hear hear | 19:12 |
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shabz | meego kernel will be later | 19:13 |
shabz | 33 or more | 19:13 |
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lan | now wot did my firend did | 19:14 |
CosmoHill | VDVsx: +1 | 19:14 |
lan | sorry i will state kippen the laptop a way from him | 19:14 |
CosmoHill | (on a side note, this is the only channel where you can say something and other people will go +1 or -1) | 19:14 |
VDVsx | friend excuse again, lol | 19:14 |
tybollt | :D | 19:15 |
lan | :) | 19:15 |
RST38h | VDVsx: Whole thing reminds on Peter Watts' Blindsight | 19:16 |
RST38h | s/on/of | 19:16 |
lan | o and sorry for all the fings my friend been sead | 19:16 |
amjad | is nokia planning a contest like android developer contest (by google) | 19:16 |
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lan | Myrtti i am very sorry for my friend | 19:17 |
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leinir | amjad: there's one going at the moment, i believe... though it's less Maemo and more "Change the world" sort of stuff :) | 19:18 |
CosmoHill | lan: windows key + L | 19:19 |
leinir | Forum Nokia's Calling All Innovators competition - http://www.callingallinnovators.com/ | 19:19 |
lan | CosmoHill:alt+f4 | 19:20 |
CosmoHill | but you want to lock the computer, not quit the program | 19:21 |
amjad | ahh , it is localized for countries | 19:21 |
VDVsx | leinir, amjad , "Best application for the Nokia N900: $50,000 (USD) in cash." | 19:21 |
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VDVsx | not bad :) | 19:21 |
leinir | VDVsx: Indeed, 'tis a pretty hard core competition :) | 19:21 |
th0br0 | problem is: is it supposed to be for maemo or for meego, in gtk or in qt? | 19:21 |
lan | do you know any for sonyericsson | 19:22 |
VDVsx | same for the best Qt based app | 19:22 |
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VDVsx | th0br0, Maemo it seems | 19:22 |
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RST38h | VDVsx: are there submissions already? | 19:22 |
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VDVsx | err, that I don't know | 19:23 |
VDVsx | RST38h, 18 may | 19:23 |
VDVsx | *until | 19:23 |
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lan | CosmoHill: you see that big botten on your window 99 live your finger on it and live this to the new windos 7 | 19:25 |
CosmoHill | huh? | 19:25 |
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lan | CosmoHill: you live in the past | 19:26 |
RST38h | eek | 19:26 |
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CosmoHill | I'm confused, what? | 19:27 |
CosmoHill | I had windows 7 before it was on sail, so i would be in the future? | 19:27 |
lan | CosmoHill: widows 7 gest got out of stile now is windos 8 | 19:29 |
VDVsx | CosmoHill, lan is a bot programmed by M$, running windows 8, so he wins :D | 19:29 |
VDVsx | lol | 19:29 |
AVee | It's an evil MS plan to destroy OSS by getting everybody distracted. | 19:29 |
lan | wot makes you fink that | 19:30 |
AVee | you :P | 19:30 |
lan | ok lets stop fulling around people i am a real person with my laptop in a caffa | 19:31 |
CosmoHill | Café | 19:31 |
lan | AVee o and i for got :p | 19:32 |
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cyberkonsult | Anyone know about Sandybridge.. Will meego target those devices? | 19:33 |
lan | thats the first time i heard about that | 19:34 |
VDVsx | isn't that Intel stuff ? | 19:34 |
* VDVsx googles | 19:34 | |
tybollt | VDVsx: and...? | 19:34 |
CosmoHill | isn't that an i3 with a built in gpu? | 19:34 |
tybollt | VDVsx: you know intel IS the other prong of the meego fork :D | 19:34 |
cyberkonsult | There seem to be support for Sandybridge in 2.6.34 | 19:35 |
slaine | cyberkonsult: depends on what version of kernel/xorg driver they ship with meego | 19:35 |
VDVsx | tybollt, lol, I was just asking, don't read between my words | 19:35 |
tybollt | ;) | 19:35 |
cyberkonsult | So the code release shold be before the 2.6.34 release?? | 19:36 |
cyberkonsult | s/shold/should/ | 19:36 |
infobot | cyberkonsult meant: So the code release should be before the 2.6.34 release?? | 19:36 |
cyberkonsult | Darned bot.. | 19:36 |
tybollt | you mean the _initial_ code release? Kernels are a highly moving target :) | 19:37 |
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cyberkonsult | Right... just trying to get some conversation in here not related to the darned bor | 19:38 |
cyberkonsult | bot | 19:38 |
cyberkonsult | ;) | 19:38 |
th0br0 | cyberkonsult: well, afaik it's supposed to be this month ^^ | 19:38 |
cyberkonsult | So, by the end of this month we will have 2.6.33 as the kernel ?? | 19:39 |
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amjad | well cyberkonsult the current stable linux kernel version is 2.6.33 | 19:45 |
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lan | i downladed a file named bot ditecter and it told me that there was more than five bot wothing wot we was saing | 19:45 |
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tybollt | lan: hello | 19:46 |
* lupine_85 wonders if "amjad" is a relatively common name | 19:46 | |
amjad | and the main is 2.6.34 release candidate 1 | 19:46 |
amjad | lol lupine_85:) | 19:46 |
cyberkonsult | I was reading of all the glorious things in 2.6.34 and was hoping for meego code release with that! | 19:46 |
lan | hello :) | 19:46 |
lupine_85 | I've dealt with another amjad/amgad in the course of business, is all :) | 19:47 |
amjad | hmm, that is interesting | 19:47 |
lupine_85 | (I'm guessing you're not the same one, since your english isn't worse than lan's) | 19:47 |
lan | some people fink i am a bot | 19:47 |
lupine_85 | nah, computers can spell | 19:47 |
amjad | did that amjad/amgad worked on powerpc/CELL B.E?? | 19:48 |
* cyberkonsult thinks lan is a bored troll | 19:48 | |
lan | i am not a computer | 19:48 |
lupine_85 | no, more legally grey areas | 19:48 |
amjad | ok | 19:48 |
cyberkonsult | luping_85: He worked for Microsoft? | 19:49 |
lupine_85 | got several takedown requests but we couldn't find any solid legal basis to shut him down :/ | 19:49 |
tybollt | lupine_85: who? | 19:49 |
lan | helloty bollt | 19:49 |
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lupine_85 | cable tv theft | 19:50 |
tybollt | heh | 19:50 |
tybollt | w/ HD and pairing there is no more cable TV theft | 19:51 |
lupine_85 | the little decoder boxes are really complex these days | 19:51 |
tybollt | 1-0 hollywood | 19:51 |
lan | do you have a phone tybollt | 19:51 |
lupine_85 | they dial up to servers to get the latest month's keys | 19:51 |
tybollt | lan: YES! Please CALL ME!!! | 19:51 |
RST38h | has been like this for years | 19:51 |
lan | wots your number | 19:52 |
tybollt | Well, pairing is kind of new | 19:52 |
* RST38h remembers reading of an epic battle between sat tv pirates and Hughes | 19:52 | |
tybollt | 7msg lan +46-0620-59928312 | 19:52 |
RST38h | With Hughes slowly assembling the new anti-hack firmware on their hacked cards, piece by signed piece, coming from space | 19:53 |
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RST38h | And when the last piece arrived... well... :E | 19:53 |
tybollt | RST38h: so they eventually beat the pirates? | 19:53 |
lupine_85 | 1-800-SEXBOT | 19:53 |
lan | yes i have it i will text you later or to night | 19:54 |
tybollt | lupine_85: ssssh, don't ruin this now :) | 19:54 |
RST38h | tybollt: Well, they have beaten everyone with a certain set of card versions and not ugin card emulator when the last packet came | 19:54 |
lupine_85 | ;) | 19:54 |
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RST38h | tybollt: the later card versions were considered unhackable at the time | 19:54 |
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RST38h | tybollt: But that was years ago, I have no idea what this field looks like right now. Google. | 19:54 |
tybollt | sure | 19:55 |
tybollt | and | 19:55 |
* tybollt & | 19:55 | |
* lupine_85 pokes mobile ipv6 some more | 19:55 | |
lupine_85 | I can do it! | 19:55 |
RST38h | The card itself is basically a standard SmartCard with memory, CPU and a custom ASIC that directly decodes the data packets | 19:55 |
hcl2 | meego is planing to run on arm and atom at launch? | 19:55 |
lupine_85 | yeah, n900 and atom box | 19:55 |
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hcl2 | i want to try it on smartq5 | 19:56 |
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lan | do you still go to school tybollt | 19:56 |
RST38h | (should someone force the "n900 atom box" meme to further mystify the public? :)) | 19:56 |
lupine_85 | :p | 19:57 |
lupine_85 | forced meme is not a mem | 19:57 |
lupine_85 | ..e | 19:57 |
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slaine | will it support arm7 ? | 20:05 |
slaine | I'm looking at some Cortex A9 gear | 20:06 |
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lan | hello | 20:06 |
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lan | is any won here | 20:06 |
RST38h | <facepalm> | 20:06 |
CosmoHill | slaine: probably | 20:07 |
VDVsx | again... | 20:07 |
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lan | VDVsx are you a boy or a girl i am a boy | 20:08 |
frals | lol | 20:08 |
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slonopotamus | <_< | 20:10 |
lan | i am reach my dad is t-pain | 20:10 |
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CosmoHill | VDVsx: i think he likes you | 20:11 |
VDVsx | eheh | 20:11 |
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VDVsx | lan, where are the $5000 that you promised to borrow me ???? grrr | 20:12 |
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CosmoHill | hahahah | 20:13 |
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slaine | commute time | 20:13 |
slaine | catch you lot later or perhaps tomorrow | 20:13 |
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rryk | hello | 20:14 |
rryk | i have a question about meego | 20:14 |
leinir | i'm sure you do :) | 20:15 |
slonopotamus | rryk, don't worry, that's ok, we'll try to help you. | 20:15 |
rryk | whether meego will be available on Nokia n900 | 20:15 |
leinir | You have, of course, googled this before asking? ;) | 20:15 |
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leinir | Since the availability of MeeGo for the N900 was announced on the MeeGo blog earlier this month :) | 20:16 |
lupine_85 | it will, by all accounts | 20:16 |
rryk | yes but i found nothing | 20:16 |
lupine_85 | I'll rephrase that, it'd better ;) | 20:16 |
rryk | wow it's great | 20:16 |
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rryk | and i have one more question | 20:16 |
leinir | It's the official ARM test device for MeeGo :) | 20:17 |
leinir | So... you can be pretty sure that it will ;) | 20:17 |
rryk | simultaneously with wysjciem meego, you will get a new phone from Nokia | 20:17 |
rryk | Czy jednoczesnie z wyjsciem meego pojawi sie jakis nowy telefon od nokii | 20:17 |
rryk | Can the same time the output meego happens to have a new phone from Nokia | 20:18 |
rryk | sorry | 20:18 |
rryk | :D | 20:18 |
rryk | iI use google translator | 20:18 |
rryk | :D | 20:18 |
leinir | ...you clearly do ;) | 20:18 |
leinir | And google translate is not really good for asking questions ;) | 20:19 |
leinir | Try yourself ;) | 20:19 |
burchr | rryk: such information isn't public, so, that isn't known | 20:19 |
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rryk | i dont speak english :D | 20:19 |
leinir | Oh, you mean "when will we see the first official MeeGo device from Nokia"? :) | 20:19 |
rryk | that only sentence what i know in english | 20:20 |
VDVsx | there will be a new phone at least, the one with maemo6/harmattan/meego 1.0 | 20:20 |
VDVsx | :D | 20:20 |
rryk | yes | 20:20 |
rryk | i mean when will we see the first official MeeGo device from Nokia | 20:20 |
burchr | rryk: not known | 20:21 |
leinir | In that case, what burchr said: No-one who knows the answer to that is able to tell us yet :) | 20:21 |
rryk | ok thanks I asked this question only because I intend to buy a n900 and I wonder whether it not be better to wait a | 20:23 |
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leinir | That depends | 20:24 |
leinir | Do you like hardware keyboard, or touch-screen keyboards? | 20:24 |
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leinir | Do you like capacitative or ressistive screens? | 20:24 |
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burchr | the n900 is here now, the other device is not | 20:25 |
burchr | there will always be more devices after that device | 20:25 |
leinir | burchr: There is also that :) | 20:25 |
triplezero | there will always be another device | 20:25 |
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triplezero | i'm holding out until i know what device supports meego 3.0 | 20:26 |
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triplezero | but then a month later there will be a new device that supports 3.1 | 20:27 |
triplezero | so i may as well wait for that | 20:27 |
triplezero | etc... etc.. | 20:27 |
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CosmoHill | lu | 20:34 |
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