IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Wednesday, 2012-10-03

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marmistrzmerlin1991: ping18:16
merlin1991marmistrz: pong18:17
keriomerlin1991: ping18:17
merlin1991kerio: pong18:17
merlin1991:D18:17
keriomerlin1991: hi!18:17
marmistrzAny news about the sqlite?18:17
merlin1991I didn't have the time to add it yet (university began this week with all its madness)18:17
* kerio uses it18:17
keriotracker *feels* faster18:18
kerioA++ would sql again18:18
marmistrzNice to know that it's good ;)18:20
marmistrzSecond thing: I compiled newer fuse: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1275334#post1275334 . If it's stable, I'd like to have it included in the CSSU. I have no possibility to test it (not a fuse-expert), but N900 with this version installed boots ok18:22
marmistrzif anyone of you here could try it out so that we'll know whether we can call it stable, it'd be cool. Aegisfs (encrypted storage)18:23
marmistrzshould probably work, if fuse 2.8 installed18:23
marmistrzThird thing, and last: can MeeGo-specific stuff be included in Maemo's Qt? Compiling MeeGo's Qt is a pain in the ass, as there's a lot of incompatibilities, errors, etc. It'd be much easier if meegographicssystem stuff was included in CSSU Qt. Then I could try compiling newer libmeegotouch.18:28
merlin1991afaik our qt sources don't have the meegostuf included18:29
marmistrzThey don't have this. It'd be nice if it was included. It's a blocker for a couple of libs, and as I've said, I can't compile it on my own18:29
freemangordonmarmistrz: AFAIK  meegographicssystem uses SGX 1.4 drivers, maemo5 is 1.318:30
freemangordonmarmistrz: why don;t you port it to Qt 4.7.4?18:31
marmistrzI tried compiling the MeeGo's Qt4, but it produces a lot of errors.18:32
freemangordonyou missed the point: port  meegographicssystem to Qt in CSSU18:32
merlin1991btw freemangordon we've reached 490 dls :D18:33
freemangordonmerlin1991: come on, that cant be true18:34
freemangordoncan't even18:34
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merlin1991470 unique ips18:34
freemangordonhmm18:34
merlin1991I bet kerio is using a botnet to kill our stats :D18:34
freemangordonwell, I guess kerio is running his while[1]; do wget ; done script :D:D:D18:35
freemangordonhehe18:35
freemangordonyou were faster18:35
freemangordonkerio: ^^^?18:35
keriono18:35
marmistrzfreemangordon: Unfortunately, I'm a lil' overwhelmed by the Qt sources ;) I'm not a Qt expert. It'd be much easier if the one who ported Qt 4.7.4 did it.18:35
freemangordonmarmistrz: well, I am not sure who did it, but you can check on gitorious and ask him to do it18:36
freemangordonmerlin1991: is there any chance to get -T stats?18:36
merlin1991without help from x-fade, no18:37
freemangordonhmm18:37
freemangordon:(18:37
marmistrzfreemangordon: thx, I'll try it out18:37
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freemangordonmarmistrz: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/x11-maemo18:39
freemangordonmarmistrz: https://gitorious.org/~harryF18:40
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freemangordonmerlin1991: please check inotcoming.log18:49
freemangordon"no distribution found"18:49
merlin1991because you have distribution stable :D18:57
merlin1991we have fremantle -> fremanlte and unstable-> fremantle18:57
merlin1991I'll add stable -> fremanlte aswell :D18:57
freemangordoni know, but seems sqlite3 is in that distribution :D18:57
freemangordonok18:57
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merlin1991imported18:58
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marmistrzfreemangordon: From what I see, you're the maintainer of the git repo. Or is MohammadAG the right person to contact?18:58
freemangordonit is not me18:58
freemangordonAFAIK18:58
freemangordonwhy do you need the maintainer?18:59
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marmistrzI'm looking for a right person to contact, who is experienced in Qt stuff19:07
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freemangordonmerlin1991: i've pushed a new -thumb -mp, don't know if you need to reset some counter, but if you have to, now is the time :)20:08
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merlin1991nah I'll just have to adjust my grep over the server logs :D20:17
freemangordonok20:17
keriofreemangordon: yay gstreamer20:33
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freemangordonkerio: yep20:39
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freemangordonkerio: any clue which package flac decoder is in?20:52
kerio\_o_/20:52
kerioyou compiled it20:52
freemangordondid I?20:52
freemangordongood20:52
keriofind gst -iname *flac*20:52
keriono, i meant20:52
kerioyou compiled gstreamer20:52
freemangordonyes, but flac is not in the packages i compiled20:52
keriothen :c20:52
keriogst-plugins-good-plugins maybe20:52
kerioor gstreamer-flac20:53
kerioidk, packaging for this shit is seriously weird20:53
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marmistrzfreemangordon: ping21:14
freemangordonmarmistrz: pong21:15
marmistrzI found something interesting in qt-x11-maemo21:15
marmistrzthe git source already contains MeeGo-specific source!21:15
marmistrzit's just not dh_installed21:16
freemangordonpossible :D21:16
freemangordonyou're lucky the21:16
freemangordonclone it in your tree, make changes and request a merge21:16
marmistrzok21:16
freemangordonyou have account on gitorious, ain't?21:17
marmistrzmy clone may be a little buggy, but this should be the point21:17
marmistrzofc I have21:17
freemangordonbuggy?21:17
freemangordonwhy is that21:17
marmistrzs/ofc/of couse21:17
marmistrzs/ofc/of course21:18
marmistrzthe Meego .install files may not be compatible with maemo qt21:18
marmistrzI take this in account21:18
marmistrzbut I doubt it21:18
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: how about renaming cssu-thumb into mameo++(cssu) ?21:57
DocScrutinizer05and making it home of all leete new stuff that's way beyond normal maemo21:57
DocScrutinizer05maemo++ even21:58
DocScrutinizer05(typos not intended - this time)21:58
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DocScrutinizer05I mean, we probably don't want to roll 153 different cssu-* custom repos, for thumb, qt-*(meego), powerkernel-ng, maemopwn-fsck-the-wlan-pentest22:00
DocScrutinizer05whatever22:00
DocScrutinizer05don't take this as a well thought suggestion, just a question what you think about it22:01
keriowell, it's just a name22:01
kerioand it still follows cssu quite strictly22:01
DocScrutinizer05since I just read about request to add qt-meego stuff "to CSSU"22:01
kerioqtmobility?22:02
DocScrutinizer05in backscroll22:02
DocScrutinizer05[2012-10-03 17:28:03] <marmistrz> Third thing, and last: can MeeGo-specific stuff be included in Maemo's Qt? Compiling MeeGo's Qt is a pain in the ass, as there's a lot of incompatibilities, errors, etc. It'd be much easier if meegographicssystem stuff was included in CSSU Qt. Then I could try compiling newer libmeegotouch.22:03
kerioDocScrutinizer05: to be fair that's a perfectly reasonable request :)22:04
DocScrutinizer05it's a sword with two sharp sides though22:04
kerioadd *all* the features! _ò/22:05
kerioif properly tested22:05
DocScrutinizer05either we keep policy to add *reasonable* stuff to cssu-t while keeping it optional and also need to rule out stuff that's just screwing too much with system properties, or we roll a maemo++ branch and risk nothing of all that will *ever* come to cssu-t/s22:06
* DocScrutinizer05 feels friggin headache around the corner22:07
DocScrutinizer05literally, not metaphorically22:07
DocScrutinizer05X-(22:08
kerioDocScrutinizer05: quick! to the aspirine!22:11
DocScrutinizer05incredible how some stupid tries to access removed/moved URLs on my server since 6 months in vain, every single day22:11
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kerios/p0rn/pr0n/22:12
kerios/pr0n/goatse/22:12
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DocScrutinizer05pop: auth failures: rhost= : 396 times22:14
DocScrutinizer05now for "sasl auth daemon ***unmatched entries*22:15
DocScrutinizer05**"22:15
DocScrutinizer0595k22:15
DocScrutinizer05users: oracle8, backup, lizdy, server, data, account (!!!)... suuuuuuuure22:17
* DocScrutinizer05 yawns22:17
DocScrutinizer05running a server is such a tedious task22:18
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: your proposition means fork AIUI. Not that fork is a bad thing, but I would like to avoid it if possible. And now way I will do it alone ;)22:29
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freemangordons/now/no/22:30
infobotfreemangordon meant: DocScrutinizer05: your proposition means fork AIUI. Not that fork is a bad thing, but I would like to avoid it if possible. And no way I will do it alone ;)22:30
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: if meegographics in CSSU is just a matter of re-compiling Qt, what is the problem?22:31
freemangordonthough i douth it will be that simple :D22:31
freemangordondamn typos :(22:31
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* DocScrutinizer05 doubts as well23:15
* DocScrutinizer05 agrees on fork and that not really being a nice idea, regarding several downsides it comes with. Some of them already mentioned before23:15
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DocScrutinizer05"not doing it alone" aka workload for maintenance only one thing23:16
DocScrutinizer05devels not giving a flying fuck about backporting anything to maemo-proper (aka CSSU) being another23:16
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DocScrutinizer05(kinda like many devels only learn when uploading to extras-devel, that their install- and init-scripts are exploiting messybox-power'isms)23:17
DocScrutinizer05luckily so far they feel it's maybe mandatory to fix that23:18
DocScrutinizer05if such a fork became popular, they wouldn't care about plain maemo anymore23:18
DocScrutinizer05even if their app could easily run on maemo proper as well, idone correctly23:19
DocScrutinizer05if done*23:19
freemangordonhmm, I am not sure I understand what you said, but deffinitely I don;t wan't to maintain maemo-extras-thumb-devel :)23:19
freemangordonneither I think there is need for such thing AIUI23:19
DocScrutinizer05I said a lot ;-P where I lost you?23:20
DocScrutinizer05well, seems we agree anyway23:20
keriofreemangordon: recompile *all* the extras-devel! _ò/23:21
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freemangordonkerio: just a minute23:24
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luffreemangordon: 20 minutes?23:45
freemangordonsure23:45
freemangordonluf: ^^^23:46
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luffreemangordon: :D23:47
lufUgh I hate writing some documents like wiki about PBAP :D My head turned around and don't want to stop.23:47
freemangordonluf: hmm, and what am I supposed to do? :P23:48
luffreemangordon: recompile *all* the extras-devel! and of course also fork CSSU with all new features and maybe also dance with bear :D23:50
keriodance with THE TECHNOVIKING23:50
freemangordonluf: may I start with the bear?23:53
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freemangordonluf: I am getting too sleepy, on my way...23:56
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