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| luf | Ugh. incredible valgrind. It seems I fix the problem. fucking missing () in pointer arithmetic :D | 00:05 |
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| luf | But when I stop obexd it reports something and I'm unable to find the origins ... | 00:06 |
| kerio | yeah, valgrind is srsly cool | 00:07 |
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| luf | freemangordon: the bluez upgrade is closer to the tip of my TODO ;) I need to refactor the MAP patch (also merge with last public release) and put it into TMO for testing. Then bluez time will come ;) | 00:47 |
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| merlin1991 | hm new kernel in the debian repos | 03:14 |
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| merlin1991 | server rebooted :D | 03:19 |
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| merlin1991 | server back up with new kernel | 03:28 |
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| freemangordon | luf: you did find the bug in obexd? | 09:38 |
| luf | freemangordon: yes. As I disabled mas plugin also syncevolution plugin needs to be disabled (just config) due to bluetooth synchronization. | 09:39 |
| luf | freemangordon: the bug I mentioned is in MAP and I finally have stable initial map (this isn't in released obexd). | 09:40 |
| freemangordon | great | 09:41 |
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| freemangordon | kerio: wanna try thumb cstreamer? | 11:11 |
| freemangordon | *gstreamer | 11:11 |
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| freemangordon | kerio: if you want to, .debs are here http://merlin1991.at/~freemangordon/cssu-thumb/gstreamer/ | 11:37 |
| freemangordon | not tested, so be careful | 11:37 |
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| rantom | Hi. Can I ask a quick question about tuning the transitions with/for CSSU? | 11:44 |
| tadzik | go ahead | 11:47 |
| rantom | Thanks. :) So I just moved back for, now, to my N900 and tried to customize the transitions with CSSU Features/etc. That didn't work that well though (I'm on CSSU-Stable) and I thought what could I use in its place | 11:48 |
| rantom | Now I found cssutransitionstuner in packages, that's stuck in -testing, would that be good alternative to use since I already have Theme Customizer isntalled? | 11:49 |
| tadzik | huh. I just switched this .ini file somewhere ) | 11:50 |
| tadzik | never used any tool for that | 11:50 |
| rantom | Heh, ok | 11:51 |
| tadzik | I don't change the transitions every few hours, so that seems sensible | 11:51 |
| tadzik | freemangordon: actually, I can try this gstreamer | 11:51 |
| rantom | Yeah, it'll be once the settings are complete | 11:52 |
| tadzik | freemangordon: just download it all and dpkg -i it? | 11:52 |
| rantom | Just curious overall is there a reason not to use cssutransitionstuner | 11:52 |
| rantom | e.g. incompatibility | 11:52 |
| rantom | (which would be a bit ironic considering the name :) | 11:52 |
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| luf | Is here someone with tracker knowledge? I need to understand what part of query means: | 12:37 |
| luf | " FILTER (!BOUND(?msg)) " | 12:37 |
| luf | Does MAP message listing in /, /telecom, /telecom/msg returns some/all/none messages? | 12:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | luf: ?? I fthat's what I think it is, you should read about sparQL | 13:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd guess it means there's a filter on a table, to return all records where the field 'msg' is NOT bound to any data | 13:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | luf: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/#func-bound | 13:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | luf: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/#tests | 13:48 |
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| rantom | But thanks | 14:06 |
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| luf | DocScrutinizer05: yeah that's it. Thanks. | 14:15 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: not now, but i'll try it later | 15:13 |
| kerio | i'm at the uni, no easy way to recover | 15:14 |
| freemangordon | aah, I see | 15:14 |
| luf | kerio: just ask the blond girl she'll help you ;) | 15:14 |
| freemangordon | hehe | 15:14 |
| kerio | haha | 15:14 |
| freemangordon | kerio: better ask wise, not blone one :P | 15:15 |
| freemangordon | *blond | 15:15 |
| luf | Ugh obexd patch againist orig grow from 130kB to 400kB :D | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | luf: honestly, SPARQL is such a braindamaged crap | 15:48 |
| luf | DocScrutinizer05: true :) | 15:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | where in a decent language I'd define a condition like NOT ISEMPTY(data-element), in SPARQL I need a mindfsckng OPTIONAL { ?x dc:date ?date } . FILTER (!bound(?date)) | 15:51 |
| luf | DocScrutinizer05: :D that's the reason I don't want study such crapy language. | 15:52 |
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| luf | Wow. I finished initial MAP support for obexd. I'll upload it to the git and announce on the TMO. | 15:57 |
| luf | Is someone here interested to test it? :) | 15:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd not know how to test it | 15:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for fun, figure how to literally transcode OPTIONAL { ?x dc:date ?date } . FILTER (!bound(?date)) to SQL ;-D | 16:00 |
| luf | I'm still a little bit normal :D | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | select a.x a.y from mytab as a, b.x b.z mytab as b where notempty(b.z) and b.x = a.x | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | somthing like that | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/not// | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | OPTIONAL --- pfffffbwahaha | 16:06 |
| luf | DocScrutinizer05: do you want to kill as? Or just kill out brains? :D | 16:06 |
| luf | s/as/us/ | 16:06 |
| infobot | luf meant: DocScrutinizer05: do you want to kill us? Or just kill out brains? :D | 16:06 |
| luf | s/out/our/ | 16:06 |
| infobot | luf meant: DocScrutinizer05: do you want to kill as? Or just kill our brains? :D | 16:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I know whom to kill: the one who invented that SPARQL shit | 16:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I could bet it's been a math graduate with second study CS who never wrote a decent working program before he finished his math study | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | during his first semester of CS | 16:13 |
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| m0shbear | DocScrutinizer05: here's a question | 16:54 |
| m0shbear | wtf happened to just using ye olde sql for that kind of domain? | 16:54 |
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| luf | ok, new obexd is in git and also merlin1991.at :) I'll announce it on TMO in the evening or tomorrow. I need to fix dependency for librtcom-eventlogger1-async and rtcom-eventlogger-async. | 17:08 |
| luf | freemangordon: I think I'll take a look on bluez upgrade tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. | 17:09 |
| freemangordon | good, now you're back to BT :P | 17:09 |
| luf | freemangordon: :D as you wish :D | 17:09 |
| freemangordon | luf: don't forget my re-packaging ;) | 17:09 |
| freemangordon | :D:D:D | 17:09 |
| luf | Sure it's the first point. I want to learn because it should be interesting also for obexd package ;) | 17:10 |
| luf | I have to leave now. Bye. | 17:10 |
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| merlin1991 | what did I think when I set up that domain? | 17:11 |
| merlin1991 | I kinda missed the point of unintentional highlights on irc :D | 17:11 |
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| m0shbear | merlin1991: it's to troll those with op status in order to get /kicked :P | 17:29 |
| merlin1991 | hehe | 17:31 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: ok, i'm at home | 17:52 |
| kerio | what should i test and how | 17:52 |
| kerio | actually first i gotta poop | 17:52 |
| kerio | but i have a laptop, so don't worry | 17:53 |
| kerio | freemangordon: that's a lot of debs D: | 17:57 |
| kerio | also the versions aren't +thumb | 17:57 |
| m0shbear | i wonder how well-optimized mednafen's and desmume's virtualizations are, in order to avoid as much arm->arm translation as possible | 18:01 |
| m0shbear | since a ds is pretty much an arm965e and gba an arm7tdmi with a few peripheral fancinesses | 18:01 |
| freemangordon | kerio: yes, no -thumb in version, but that should not be a problem | 18:09 |
| kerio | it IS >:C | 18:10 |
| freemangordon | I thoink you have all, but gstreamer0.10-tools installed | 18:10 |
| freemangordon | kerio: not, it is not, if everything is OK, +thumb version will come with next -pr thing | 18:10 |
| kerio | link again? | 18:11 |
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| freemangordon | http://merlin1991.at/~freemangordon/cssu-thumb/gstreamer/ | 18:11 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: how do i test if everything is working fine? | 18:12 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: *poke* | 18:44 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: this is srsly weird, half of those packages don't even exist | 18:50 |
| freemangordon | kerio: ? | 18:55 |
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| freemangordon | for dure they do | 18:55 |
| freemangordon | *sure | 18:56 |
| kerio | freemangordon: gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-extra doesn't exist | 18:56 |
| freemangordon | where? | 18:56 |
| kerio | actually no | 18:56 |
| kerio | gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-extra doesn't exist | 18:57 |
| kerio | anywhere | 18:57 |
| kerio | it's not in the nokia repos | 18:57 |
| kerio | it's not in extras-devel | 18:57 |
| freemangordon | hmm | 18:58 |
| kerio | also, should i install stuff like gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-extra? | 19:00 |
| kerio | it's not installed now | 19:00 |
| freemangordon | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5463 | 19:00 |
| povbot | Bug 5463: Provide gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-extra (for gdppay or gdpdepay) | 19:00 |
| freemangordon | WTF?!? | 19:00 |
| kerio | WTF indeed | 19:01 |
| freemangordon | well, you may want to not install it | 19:02 |
| freemangordon | though it contains libgstgdp.so and libgstpango.so | 19:02 |
| freemangordon | whatever those are used for | 19:02 |
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| freemangordon | kerio: it is to construct gstreamer pipeline over a network :D | 19:05 |
| kerio | neat | 19:05 |
| kerio | freemangordon: what are you going to add to the mp? | 19:06 |
| freemangordon | only what is in stock, but will leave that extra package on the repo too (no option actually, because of the .changes file) | 19:07 |
| kerio | i see | 19:07 |
| kerio | anyway, i'm actually not going to test it >:D | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | which one? | 19:08 |
| kerio | neither | 19:08 |
| kerio | s/neither/none/ | 19:08 |
| infobot | kerio meant: none | 19:08 |
| freemangordon | up to you | 19:08 |
| kerio | do you actually need me to test it? | 19:08 |
| freemangordon | no | 19:08 |
| kerio | i don't want to copypaste a bunch of URLs :( | 19:08 |
| freemangordon | i'll install it on my primary device for couple of days | 19:10 |
| freemangordon | s/it/them/ | 19:10 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: i'll install them on my primary device for couple of days | 19:10 |
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| kerio | Pali: sup | 19:21 |
| kerio | there could be a kernel patch for you | 19:21 |
| kerio | freemangordon: what's the unaligned access thing again? | 19:21 |
| Pali | where? | 19:22 |
| Pali | what? | 19:22 |
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| kerio | Pali: unaligned memory access is trapped in old kernels, but more recent ones let that slide on arm 6+ | 19:22 |
| kerio | Pali: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=8428e84d42179c2a00f5f6450866e70d802d1d05 | 19:25 |
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| freemangordon | well, all of the videos i have here still play, camera works, the music plays, so I assume gstreamer-thumb is ok for the next update | 19:42 |
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| kerio | yay | 19:49 |
| kerio | is it faster? | 19:49 |
| kerio | also yay gcc4.7 for mp3 | 19:49 |
| freemangordon | faster? how to check that? | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | unfortunately mp3 is nokia :( | 19:51 |
| kerio | ...wtf | 19:51 |
| kerio | why? | 19:51 |
| kerio | it's fukken gstreamer | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | no idea | 19:51 |
| kerio | well fix it | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | libgstnokiamp3dec.so | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | package gstreamer0.10-nokia-speech | 19:52 |
| kerio | that's bullshit and we both know it | 19:52 |
| kerio | fix it | 19:52 |
| kerio | please ;_; | 19:52 |
| freemangordon | unfortunately the parts that will benefit the most from using gcc4.7.2 are closed source - pulseaudio nokia plugin and gst mp3 decoder :( | 19:54 |
| freemangordon | curse Nokia for that | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | there are FOSS mp3 decoders, but those are out of the scope of CSSU-thumb :P | 19:58 |
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| freemangordon | btw did it come clear why tracker update screwed flac and ogg? | 20:00 |
| tadzik | freemangordon: why out of scope? | 20:00 |
| freemangordon | tadzik: as I am not going to reinvent maemo5 | 20:00 |
| tadzik | I see | 20:01 |
| freemangordon | feel free to pester merlin1991 and chem|st to add foss mp3 codec replacement in CSSU-T/S, -thumb will follow shortly :) | 20:01 |
| ShadowJK | iirc kulve already tested ffmpeg's mp3 and vorbis decoder back in 09 or 10, and performance was good | 20:02 |
| freemangordon | ShadowJK: hmm, I remember something about that. | 20:03 |
| freemangordon | And I suspect it will be much better when optimized with gcc 4.7.2 | 20:04 |
| freemangordon | but please, understand that I am the only one working on that | 20:04 |
| ShadowJK | Also ffmpeg/libav itself will have improved since then | 20:04 |
| ShadowJK | I'd also claim that current perf is "good enough" | 20:06 |
| ShadowJK | and that the difference in battery life measured back then came probably mostly from different wakeup behaviour rather than cpuseconds used | 20:07 |
| kerio | ShadowJK: idk, there's a *big* difference between gcc 4.2 and 4.7-linaro | 20:13 |
| kerio | optimizers are black magic | 20:13 |
| freemangordon | ShadowJK: did you see the comparison in openssl benchmarks? | 20:16 |
| freemangordon | the one compiled with gcc4.7.2 is about 2 times faster for some algos | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | btw does anyone know if sshd uses openssl? | 20:18 |
| kerio | i'd guess it does | 20:18 |
| kerio | actually no, maybe not | 20:18 |
| kerio | yes it does, it uses libcrypto | 20:19 |
| freemangordon | as i've never seen winscp copying a file with > 1MB/s speed. until an hour ago :D | 20:19 |
| m0shbear | kerio: less black magic than tons of program analysis math | 20:20 |
| m0shbear | they're becoming as advanced as decompilers, if not at that level, imo | 20:20 |
| freemangordon | ShadowJK: http://pastebin.com/Bpdt8nr7 | 20:21 |
| ShadowJK | is that in cssu thumb? | 20:24 |
| freemangordon | yes | 20:24 |
| freemangordon | device not overclocked | 20:24 |
| kerio | freemangordon: i wonder how much of that is thumb and how much is gcc 4.7 | 20:24 |
| freemangordon | it is deffinitely gcc | 20:25 |
| freemangordon | though AFAIK thumb2 allows compiler to schedule more effectively | 20:25 |
| * freemangordon wonders is it a good idea to recompile the kernel with gcc4.7 | 20:28 | |
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| kerio | do it | 20:31 |
| kerio | i dare you | 20:31 |
| freemangordon | hehe. I already used 4.6.2 with meego kernel back in the days I was playing with ubuntu 12.04. it was ok | 20:32 |
| ShadowJK | is thumb kernel possible? | 20:36 |
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| freemangordon | ShadowJK: I didn't mean thumb-compiled, but gcc4.7 compiled | 20:39 |
| freemangordon | AFAIK our kernel is too old to be compiled with thumb2 | 20:39 |
| freemangordon | too many patches are missing | 20:40 |
| ShadowJK | Yeah I know you meant normal | 20:40 |
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| freemangordon | otherwise even meego kernel can be thumb2-compiled | 20:40 |
| freemangordon | (iirc) | 20:40 |
| freemangordon | though I cannot imagine what would benefit from gcc4.7 besides filesystems(maybe). | 20:43 |
| kerio | ...everything? | 20:44 |
| kerio | idk | 20:44 |
| ShadowJK | That's why I asked about thumb, smaller codesize could benefit cpu cache etc :) | 20:51 |
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| freemangordon | ShadowJK: yeah, but it is too much of a backporting :( | 21:04 |
| kerio | freemangordon: hm, why won't it compile with -mthumb? | 21:21 |
| * ShadowJK noticed sys cpu use was 20% playing video, but i guess that's mostly shuffling data back and forth | 21:26 | |
| freemangordon | kerio: it will compile, but it won't work | 21:27 |
| kerio | why? :o | 21:27 |
| freemangordon | because of things like signal/exception handling and generation. MPU/FPU context, etc,etc | 21:28 |
| kerio | hm | 21:30 |
| kerio | well, it's time we got an up-to-date kernel anyway ;) | 21:30 |
| freemangordon | well, I agree, when are you going to release it? | 21:30 |
| kerio | tomorrow | 21:31 |
| kerio | if nothing else comes up | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | good, i'll wait for it | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | ShadowJK: it is your DSP that decodes it then :) | 21:32 |
| freemangordon | though most of those those 20% are most probably used by PA, there is only one large memcpy happening - from GST_BUFFER to framebuffer | 21:34 |
| ShadowJK | i didnt think pa used any measurable amounts of sys | 21:46 |
| * ShadowJK wonders if a2dp encoder is closed sauce | 21:47 | |
| kerio | ShadowJK: it is | 21:48 |
| kerio | in the sense that you can't recompile a physical chip | 21:48 |
| kerio | until 3d printers become much better, at least | 21:48 |
| ShadowJK | uh | 22:23 |
| ShadowJK | I thought the a2dp encoder was software | 22:23 |
| ShadowJK | sbc or whatever the codec is called | 22:23 |
| kerio | there's not much change in cpu usage between audio through cordful headphones and bt headphones | 22:25 |
| ShadowJK | oh? I've got like 40% use with bt headphones | 22:27 |
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