| freemangordon | anyone? | 00:00 |
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| merlin1991 | okay, anybody who wants to participate in bricking n900s of random users of this repo please send me your pubkey in whichever way you prefer :D | 00:00 |
| merlin1991 | the idea is to make .x bumps of versions in that -devel repo and when things are considered stable enough for -testing bump the version by a real number | 00:00 |
| merlin1991 | or rather let mag do that bump and the repo will import from maemo.org | 00:01 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991, you should put some short instructions somewhere once the repo is up, ok? | 00:01 |
| merlin1991 | sure will do, only need pubkeys to create the users :) | 00:01 |
| freemangordon | I mean - directory names, etc | 00:01 |
| freemangordon | you have mine, so bring the thing up :D | 00:02 |
| merlin1991 | will do that | 00:03 |
| merlin1991 | okay about translations | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | garage (next update)? | 00:03 |
| Pali | my keys are here: https://launchpad.net/~pali | 00:03 |
| merlin1991 | aferwards | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | was the next in agenda | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | ok | 00:03 |
| merlin1991 | it's dependand the other way around :D | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | ok, ok | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | :) | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | what about translations? | 00:04 |
| merlin1991 | we have that famous mcesinglepagecontinous button in the pdf-reader | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | pdf l10n is RE and uploaded on your sever | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | *server | 00:05 |
| merlin1991 | thanks to freemangordon we have the sources to the translations now (which I have to upload to gitorious :$) | 00:05 |
| merlin1991 | but we need to decide on an english translation as a starting point for all other langauges | 00:05 |
| merlin1991 | actually any IDEA how to call that frigging checkbox? | 00:05 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 00:05 |
| freemangordon | let me check in acrobat reader | 00:05 |
| Pali | single page continous | 00:06 |
| merlin1991 | the functionality it enables is that one can scroll on at the end of one page and it will autoload the next one | 00:06 |
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| freemangordon | Pali, too long | 00:06 |
| merlin1991 | also weird for a checkbox | 00:06 |
| merlin1991 | we have to label what it means when it's checked | 00:06 |
| arcean | IIRC in Maemo 4 it's called as Pali said, "single page continous" | 00:07 |
| merlin1991 | we can't fit that into the button size :/ | 00:07 |
| merlin1991 | unless we make the font smaller for the button | 00:07 |
| freemangordon | it is "Page Layout"->"Continious" in acrobat reader | 00:07 |
| merlin1991 | hm "Continous scroll" ? | 00:08 |
| freemangordon | "continious pages"? | 00:08 |
| arcean | Continious view? | 00:08 |
| freemangordon | hmm the correct is continuous :D | 00:08 |
| merlin1991 | I think continous scroll makes most sense since it affects scroll behavious | 00:09 |
| merlin1991 | *behaviour* | 00:09 |
| freemangordon | but it is not clear what this type of scroll applies to | 00:10 |
| merlin1991 | damn but that would actually be contionous scrolling which is too long again | 00:10 |
| merlin1991 | taking into account the type of scroll I guess arceans suggestion is the best? | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | successive pages? | 00:11 |
| Pali | arcean, yes | 00:11 |
| Pali | I think same name is/was in acroread | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | continuous view? | 00:12 |
| merlin1991 | +1 | 00:12 |
| freemangordon | which one? | 00:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok, have to leave now. Would you please not forget about location-widget/libsms, and the flavour stuff in product version | 00:12 |
| merlin1991 | the last one mentioned ofc :D | 00:12 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: flavour stuff is fixed already | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | fine | 00:13 |
| merlin1991 | newest testing came with non meddling aboutcssu :) | 00:13 |
| freemangordon | Pali, arcean, what do you think about "continuous view?" | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'll check that in a minute ;-D | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | o/ | 00:14 |
| arcean | freemangordon: makes sense :) | 00:14 |
| freemangordon | and that will be easily translatable to other languages | 00:14 |
| merlin1991 | btw do english menu entries start with an uppercase letter? | 00:14 |
| merlin1991 | (mine in german so I don't know) | 00:15 |
| freemangordon | at least in Bulgarian it is again two words only :D | 00:15 |
| freemangordon | Well, at least Open starts with capital letter | 00:15 |
| freemangordon | but it is "Save as" | 00:16 |
| Pali | yes start with capital letter | 00:16 |
| merlin1991 | okay | 00:16 |
| freemangordon | which is strange, AIUI it should be "Save As" | 00:16 |
| Pali | nokia paid people for proper translations :D | 00:17 |
| Pali | so it must be correct :D | 00:17 |
| freemangordon | yeah, sure :D | 00:18 |
| merlin1991 | okay I guess we'll have "Continous view" then? | 00:18 |
| freemangordon | "Continous View" :p | 00:18 |
| freemangordon | "Continuous View" :p | 00:18 |
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| merlin1991 | or not, my stock device got stuck after swapping language | 00:19 |
| freemangordon | give it some time | 00:20 |
| merlin1991 | rebooting, in the meantime we can talk about the next -testing | 00:21 |
| merlin1991 | I know about k-revc, libxml, alarmd | 00:21 |
| freemangordon | ke-recv, alarmd, camera-ui,libxml2 and h-d | 00:21 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | easily translatable is an illusion. In china(?) they have separate word for 4_long, 4_thin, 4_round etc. Of course same for other qty | 00:22 |
| freemangordon | thanks God we don't have to deal with chinese | 00:23 |
| merlin1991 | it's Save as in pdf reader | 00:23 |
| merlin1991 | so I guess we'll have Continous view | 00:23 |
| merlin1991 | or we'd have to change everything in the pdf reader to have it consistent :D | 00:23 |
| freemangordon | agree, let me check how is it in .po file | 00:24 |
| merlin1991 | ah I actually forgot about sms thingy | 00:24 |
| merlin1991 | so ke-recv, alarmd, camera-ui, libxml2, h-d, sms broadcast widget | 00:25 |
| freemangordon | Yeah, it should be "Continuous view" | 00:25 |
| freemangordon | and pdf l10n | 00:25 |
| merlin1991 | Pali, arcean any other packages which are currently ready or about to getready? | 00:25 |
| arcean | merlin1991: no, it's everything | 00:26 |
| Pali | I think nothing more | 00:26 |
| freemangordon | we can use google translate for first iteration re pdf l10n | 00:26 |
| freemangordon | but it is time to have at least english version fixed | 00:27 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: I'd suggest we add languages we can do | 00:27 |
| Pali | we can write help to TMO thread | 00:27 |
| merlin1991 | so that's english, german +what you speak | 00:27 |
| merlin1991 | and the ask for help on tmo | 00:27 |
| Pali | we got strings for modest from TMO | 00:27 |
| freemangordon | agree, but lets include waht we have in next update | 00:27 |
| freemangordon | so ke-recv, alarmd, camera-ui, libxml2, h-d, sms broadcast widget,osso-pdf-viewer-l10n | 00:28 |
| merlin1991 | yeah so everybody in here who's got a translation for "Continous view" pm me and please add which langague you translated it to | 00:28 |
| merlin1991 | and I'll add that batch and upload to gitorious | 00:28 |
| freemangordon | Can't help much with my native language, but lets ask on TMO | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | umm, linguist? | 00:29 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer51 what do you mean? | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | qt | 00:30 |
| merlin1991 | it's gettext :D | 00:30 |
| freemangordon | it does not do translation for you AFAIK | 00:30 |
| merlin1991 | and that | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | :nod: | 00:30 |
| merlin1991 | linguist is just a nice gui todo those translations | 00:30 |
| merlin1991 | I think the last list from freemangordon is complete | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yes | 00:31 |
| freemangordon | I will post on TMO re translation | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | but I managed txl8n for twinkle, and I think you *need* such a tool | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | (there's sth similar for .po though, afaik) | 00:32 |
| merlin1991 | yeah poedit | 00:32 |
| merlin1991 | but atm it's just about 1 string | 00:32 |
| merlin1991 | so basically we need the translation :D | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | this will change | 00:32 |
| merlin1991 | sure but we have it in po form | 00:33 |
| merlin1991 | so we can use poedit later on | 00:33 |
| merlin1991 | which is what linguist is | 00:33 |
| merlin1991 | I guess everybody thinks it's late enough for today? | 00:36 |
| freemangordon | yeah, too late to start the rotation thingy :D | 00:36 |
| Pali | now starting day for real programmers :D | 00:36 |
| arcean | Pali: it's almost midnight :D | 00:37 |
| merlin1991 | so that leaves rotation and worldclock for next time (I'll try to get ade in here aswell) | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I'm off for lunch, so sorry | 00:37 |
| merlin1991 | next week wednesday 19 UTC? | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ;-P | 00:37 |
| merlin1991 | so we take summer time into account? | 00:37 |
| freemangordon | yes | 00:37 |
| arcean | merlin1991: yes | 00:37 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: ? | 00:38 |
| Pali | ok | 00:38 |
| merlin1991 | okay | 00:38 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, when to expect next update, this Sunday? | 00:38 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: yeah | 00:38 |
| freemangordon | good | 00:38 |
| arcean | :) | 00:38 |
| merlin1991 | I hope I'll get my side done so I can pester MohammadAG tomorrow or friday todo it :D | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~convert 19 UTC to CEST | 00:38 |
| infobot | 19 UTC cannot be converted to CEST: Unknown unit 'UTC' | 00:38 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: 21 in cet | 00:38 |
| merlin1991 | we're +2 since sunday | 00:39 |
| merlin1991 | or was it saturday | 00:39 |
| merlin1991 | dunno | 00:39 |
| freemangordon | saturday | 00:39 |
| freemangordon | well, 3 AM Sunday :D | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | actuall sunday | 00:39 |
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| merlin1991 | Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo2.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo2.1 | meeting: 04.04 21:00 UTC | 00:40 |
| merlin1991 | arf | 00:40 |
| *** merlin1991 changes topic to "Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo2.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo2.1 | meeting: 04.04 21:00 UTC" | 00:40 | |
| merlin1991 | every 2nd time I fail to add /topic before pasting the old topic into my input bar | 00:40 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991, 21 UTC? | 00:41 |
| merlin1991 | err | 00:41 |
| merlin1991 | bloody timezones | 00:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | use Konversation, editing topic is a real snap there | 00:41 |
| *** merlin1991 changes topic to "Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo2.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo2.1 | meeting: 04.04 19:00 UTC" | 00:41 | |
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| merlin1991 | it's in this client aswell, but I always forget that it actually has that topic functionality | 00:42 |
| merlin1991 | I always do /topic to check it instead of looking at the top of hte window | 00:42 |
| merlin1991 | important irc information is always at the bottom :D | 00:43 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | for friggin xchat that's true for sure | 00:44 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | "XChat: DocScrutinizer51 @ znc / #" KTNX | 00:45 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | 100% redundance | 00:46 |
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| LaoLang_cool | hi, is it possible to quickly locate the application by alphabet, say enter 'cal' will locate to calendar in application menu | 03:34 |
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| Pali | ping merlin1991 | 12:05 |
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| Pali | merlin1991, upstream tvout project has splitted tvout packages to 2 git repositories | 12:45 |
| Pali | first is https://gitorious.org/maemo-tvout-control/libtvout-ctl branch fremantle | 12:45 |
| Pali | second is https://gitorious.org/maemo-tvout-control/maemo-tvout-control branch cssu-merge | 12:45 |
| Pali | merlin1991, please create new gitorious cssu repository libtvout-ctl and I can then update sources from upstream | 12:46 |
| Pali | merlin1991, can you also create cssu tracker repository (for garage todo)? | 12:53 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: will do | 13:03 |
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| merlin1991 | Pali: do you have the upstream tracker repo? I only found the meego tracker | 13:20 |
| Pali | yes | 13:25 |
| Pali | I wrote it to todo comment on garage | 13:25 |
| merlin1991 | okay :) | 13:26 |
| Pali | upstream tracker git repo is in meego git | 13:26 |
| Pali | but in branch fremantle | 13:26 |
| Pali | I checked and it is same version as in SDK repo | 13:26 |
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| merlin1991 | shit the tracker repo is huge, clone takes forever | 13:29 |
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| merlin1991 | Pali: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libtvout-ctl | 13:45 |
| merlin1991 | I've also merged our maemo-tvout-control with the upstream cssu-merge branch | 13:45 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: do you know what the branch "fremantle" is in the upstream repo? | 13:47 |
| merlin1991 | hm seems to be different | 13:51 |
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| merlin1991 | Pali: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/tracker | 13:53 |
| merlin1991 | ready with master as fremanlte-integration from meego tracker | 13:53 |
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| merlin1991 | WTF | 13:59 |
| merlin1991 | garage todo page is making me crazy | 13:59 |
| merlin1991 | the libxml task just vanished | 13:59 |
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| merlin1991 | nope it didn't | 14:11 |
| merlin1991 | I applied a kategory filter without knowing :$ | 14:11 |
| Pali | merlin1991, upstream tvout repo has support for fremantle and harmattan too | 14:13 |
| Pali | so libtvout-ctl has 3 branches: master, fremantle, harmattan | 14:13 |
| merlin1991 | yeah I was talking about tracker | 14:13 |
| merlin1991 | (didn't say it though :$) | 14:13 |
| merlin1991 | it seems the meego tracker repo has a fremantle branch which is about 4 versions behind fremantle-integration | 14:14 |
| Pali | ah, I see now that fremantle-integration is correct | 14:14 |
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| merlin1991 | I've put the fremantle-integration as master onto gitorious | 14:14 |
| Pali | ok | 14:20 |
| Pali | merlin1991, do you have some TV for testing if new merged version of tvout working? | 14:21 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 14:21 |
| Pali | ok, so if you have time try to compile new version and test it | 14:21 |
| merlin1991 | okay | 14:21 |
| Pali | now I do not have any TV here :D | 14:21 |
| merlin1991 | how come? | 14:21 |
| Lava_Croft | good thing, Pali ! | 14:23 |
| Lava_Croft | TV is boring anyway | 14:23 |
| Pali | I'm studing abroad and my notebook is enought for me :D | 14:24 |
| Lava_Croft | ;) | 14:24 |
| Pali | yes, TV is boring, you are right | 14:24 |
| merlin1991 | yeah I have to agree on the tv beeing boring | 14:26 |
| merlin1991 | but watching them downloaded linux distributions on a small screen isn't as much fun as on a proper tv ;) | 14:26 |
| Lava_Croft | well, i must admit | 14:27 |
| Lava_Croft | i have 'interactive tv' now, which means i can pause live TV | 14:27 |
| Lava_Croft | that does make it a lot more bearable | 14:27 |
| Lava_Croft | still need the option to fast-forward the commercial breaks tho | 14:27 |
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| LaoLang_cool | hi, I'v installed cron, but how to configure it to allow user add his own cron task? | 15:10 |
| Lava_Croft | try #maemo? | 15:20 |
| LaoLang_cool | Lava_Croft: yes, trying :) | 15:20 |
| merlin1991 | lol, my ntfs harddrive is defragging since yesterday | 15:37 |
| merlin1991 | still @ 38% | 15:37 |
| Raimu | Something funny's up with the nicocam CSSU strings for the new video modes. | 15:39 |
| Raimu | When I pick HD 16:9, the selector button goes to state it's DVD 16:9 and vice versa. | 15:40 |
| Raimu | Same for the 4:3 options. | 15:41 |
| Raimu | L10n gone goofed. :P | 15:42 |
| merlin1991 | Raimu: actually l10n is right | 15:42 |
| merlin1991 | it's wrong within the code | 15:42 |
| merlin1991 | the enumeration for the labels vs the one for the settings don't match :D | 15:43 |
| Raimu | :D | 15:43 |
| merlin1991 | should be fixed with next release (fix is already on gitorious) | 15:43 |
| Raimu | Glad to know. It's superficial, but still. | 15:43 |
| LaoLang_cool | hi, can I configure cssu version to select application in application menu by type the name of it? | 15:44 |
| LaoLang_cool | say type "cal" will select calendar | 15:44 |
| merlin1991 | there is no such functionality in the application menu | 15:45 |
| LaoLang_cool | merlin1991: ok.. | 15:45 |
| Raimu | The installable (non-CSSU!!) App Search Widget does that, though. | 15:45 |
| Raimu | It seems harmless and I use it a lot. | 15:45 |
| LaoLang_cool | app search widget, yeah, is a way, thank you :) | 15:46 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991, MohammadAG, would you please add pdf l10n to gitorious CSSU repo? | 19:58 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: coming up later today | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | ok | 19:58 |
| merlin1991 | I'll also add all the translations from tmo | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | good | 19:59 |
| merlin1991 | don't worry :D | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | :D | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | no fear... | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | :p | 19:59 |
| Pali | hi, I have some problems with jonwil's cbs widget, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1185652#post1185652 | 20:07 |
| Pali | merlin1991, freemangordon, see my post, what do you think about droping messages which start with @@@@@? | 20:07 |
| freemangordon | Pali, what did jonwil say about that problem | 20:09 |
| Pali | jonwil wrote that maybe operator sending invalid data | 20:10 |
| Pali | or there is problem in nokias sw | 20:11 |
| Pali | at least it showing me same error | 20:11 |
| freemangordon | nokias sw? which one | 20:11 |
| Pali | and I think that NO operator should sent message which starting with 5 @ | 20:11 |
| Pali | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1132606&postcount=25 | 20:12 |
| Pali | so no current answer | 20:12 |
| freemangordon | are those "@"s the only garbadge seen so far? | 20:13 |
| freemangordon | those might be some special symbols | 20:14 |
| Pali | yes | 20:14 |
| Pali | at least in logs attached in that thread | 20:14 |
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| rlinfati | why the tar.gz from the cssu include the .git directory ? | 21:04 |
| merlin1991 | rlinfati: because nobody things about adding the proper commands to the dpkg-buildpackage to exclude them | 21:07 |
| merlin1991 | tbh I can't even say which flag did it | 21:07 |
| rlinfati | -I.git ? | 21:07 |
| merlin1991 | actually -i is enough | 21:09 |
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| merlin1991 | freemangordon: translations are on gitorious including the ones we got from tmo | 21:55 |
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| merlin1991 | why is it that with every version of the tv-out applet I'm updating the buildscripts to actually work in the maemo scratchbox? | 22:07 |
| merlin1991 | does the main dev never build inside scratchbox? | 22:07 |
| arcean | merlin1991: could you import openssl? http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/o/openssl/ | 22:08 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: no maemo git of openssl existing? | 22:40 |
| arcean | merlin1991: unfortunately not | 22:40 |
| merlin1991 | :/ | 22:40 |
| merlin1991 | I'll add it, need to test the tvout compile first :D | 22:41 |
| arcean | merlin1991: ok, thanks :) | 22:41 |
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| merlin1991 | Pali tv-out still works with new version | 23:01 |
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| merlin1991 | arcean: I'm running a buildtest before I push the files to gitorious, openssl has quite some tests in the buildscripts :D | 23:21 |
| merlin1991 | srly, these tests are taking FOREVER | 23:27 |
| merlin1991 | it's worse than libc and kernel post build checks | 23:27 |
| merlin1991 | I'm starting to get the feeling it's running in circles | 23:32 |
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| merlin1991 | omfg it did finish | 23:43 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/openssl | 23:49 |
| arcean | merlin1991: thanks | 23:49 |
| arcean | merlin1991: btw, should I append "-0cssu0" or "+0cssu0" to the version string ? | 23:51 |
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