IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Friday, 2012-03-30

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merlin1991arcean +0cssu000:10
arceanok, I'll update mr00:10
merlin1991I knew adding the stuff nvidia-xsettings suggested to xorg.conf was a bad idea00:11
merlin1991my system doesn't boot anymore :/00:11
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DocScrutinizer+0OossoO000:43
DocScrutinizer;.;:;:;o;o;o;O;O;O;O;0H00:46
merlin1991brainfuck?00:46
DocScrutinizer                                 !00:46
DocScrutinizer;-P00:46
DocScrutinizerwhitespace00:47
DocScrutinizerwhitespace >> brainfuck00:47
DocScrutinizerthe fun  part is  you  can embed   it in    any text00:48
merlin1991stop it :D00:48
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DocScrutinizerecho -e "[supplementary]\nssc=1\n" >>/home/user/.osso/call-ui.ini01:04
DocScrutinizeror let me put it tjis way: starhash-enabler would fit into CSSU painlessly01:10
DocScrutinizereven though it is a pkg in extras01:11
DocScrutinizerwould fit just as nicely as a "sleep 30" before invoking that time/date/language firstboot wizard01:13
DocScrutinizero has none of you noticed that cellmo is just a tad too slow to autoset time, before system nags you to do that manually01:13
DocScrutinizeror rather, that wizard is a tad too fast01:15
merlin1991cellmo never sets time here :/01:15
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DocScrutinizertoo bad01:15
DocScrutinizerjust works, for me01:15
DocScrutinizerexcept when swapping bat and bupbat worn out01:15
DocScrutinizerfriggin wizard pops up, and when you open a xterm instead of futzing around with those clock hands and date slotmachine, and say "date", you already get right time and date01:17
DocScrutinizerwhile you can't close that wizard :-S01:17
DocScrutinizerwithout storing quite usually wrong time and date over the right one01:17
DocScrutinizerso getting a sleep 30 or even 60 there would do wonders01:18
DocScrutinizerwas that fuzzy enough now, or has anybody actually understood my idea?01:20
merlin1991nah I'm following you, but in my case I'd just hate it01:21
DocScrutinizeryou'd hate it less when >>  test -a /etc/cellmo-ntp/it-worked && sleep 6001:23
DocScrutinizermerlin1991: how's HD starting an "icon" aka .desktop? is ther some standard dbus or whatever method for that?01:27
merlin1991ask arcean I have nfc01:27
DocScrutinizerlet's say mc, which has a rather special .desktop that invokes a xterm with mc inside01:27
DocScrutinizerket's say I want exactly same thing to happen as if somebody had clicked that icon .desktop01:28
merlin1991hm com.nokia.HildonDesktop.AppMgr LaunchApplication01:30
DocScrutinizeryup, sounds like it01:30
DocScrutinizerthanks01:30
DocScrutinizer:-)01:30
merlin1991want's a string as input01:31
DocScrutinizerI have an idea for another great app almost as efficient in lines/benefit as starhash ;-D01:31
DocScrutinizerand since I CBA to code sth like that myself, I will exploit apmefo config GUI to copy all those .desktop to the special "autostart" subdir ;-D01:33
merlin1991apmefo? don't remember what that stands for01:33
DocScrutinizernfc01:34
DocScrutinizerthe better catorize01:34
DocScrutinizersth along applications, menu, folder, I guess01:36
DocScrutinizeriirc it's been written by a french girl?01:37
DocScrutinizerI might be wrong01:37
DocScrutinizerTHE FUCKING N900 STILL charges battery :-((((01:38
merlin1991dbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.HildonDesktop.AppMgr /com01:38
merlin1991/nokia/HildonDesktop/AppMgr com.nokia.HildonDesktop.AppMgr.LaunchApplication str01:38
merlin1991ing:osso-xterm01:38
merlin1991works01:38
DocScrutinizerthey sold me a battery fake01:38
merlin1991FFS putty and that gay copy paste support of it01:38
merlin1991dbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.HildonDesktop.AppMgr /com/nokia/HildonDesktop/AppMgr com.nokia.HildonDesktop.AppMgr.LaunchApplication string:osso-xterm01:38
DocScrutinizer\o/01:39
DocScrutinizerall hail to linux c&p , and ssh01:39
merlin1991currently running windoze01:39
merlin1991need to defrag an ntfs drive :/01:40
DocScrutinizerdduh, the fact that string is a name and no path makes me guess it's no bright idea to have different .desktop with same name01:42
DocScrutinizeror is the name referring to "name=foo" *inside* .desktop?01:43
merlin1991don't know01:44
merlin1991only found the reference to that dbus path with a quick grep over h-d sources and then tried with dbus-send :D01:44
DocScrutinizerI'll find out if I need a "find" or a "grep" for my autostarter01:44
DocScrutinizerisn't ot a brainfuck that this thing is called AppMgr, but then what'S called "Program Manager" in AppMgr menu actually is Hildon Application Manager? XP01:46
DocScrutinizermit eulenscheisse fuesilieren!01:47
DocScrutinizer51hat unser mathelehrer als ahndungsmassnahme bei solchen irnerweichenden fehlleistungen vorgeschlagen01:56
DocScrutinizer51s/ irn/ hirn/01:56
infobotDocScrutinizer51 meant: hat unser mathelehrer als ahndungsmassnahme bei solchen hirnerweichenden fehlleistungen vorgeschlagen01:56
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merlin1991tja nokia dev :D02:30
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merlin1991andre__: ping17:37
LaoLang_coolcan I copy a whole sms conversation?17:38
merlin1991yes and no17:38
merlin1991from where to where?17:39
andre__merlin1991, pong17:39
merlin1991I want to reopen https://bugs.maemo.org/12514 which status would reflect reopened?17:39
povbotBug 12514: Calculator program, percentage operations17:39
andre__merlin1991, we don't have a REOPENED status17:40
andre__so you can revert to previous status, which was either UNCONF or NEW17:40
merlin1991okay17:40
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LaoLang_coolmerlin1991: A whole sms conversation means all conversion of a contact17:52
merlin1991LaoLang_cool: but where to you want to copy to?17:59
jonwilAre there any plans to release a new CSSU release anytime soon?17:59
LaoLang_coolmerlin1991: to a text file :)17:59
LaoLang_coolmerlin1991: I want to save some conversations to plain text18:00
merlin1991then you can just export them18:00
LaoLang_coolmerlin1991: how to?18:00
merlin1991 /home/rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db contains all the data18:01
LaoLang_coolmerlin1991: but I don't know how to read the file...18:02
merlin1991it's an sqlite db18:02
LaoLang_coolI don't know sqlite at all... is there some tool for reading it?18:03
merlin1991 yep sqlite3 :D18:03
LaoLang_coolok... sounds a tool for advanced user too...18:04
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Lava_CroftIt's odd that no application has been made to convert the db('s) to plain text18:24
merlin1991Lava_Croft: I don't remember are you on -testing or -stbale18:35
merlin1991s/stbale/stable/18:36
infobotmerlin1991 meant: Lava_Croft: I don't remember are you on -testing or -stable18:36
Lava_Crofttesting18:36
Lava_Croftnever bothered to switch to stable once that was there18:36
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RaimuIf you delete the el-v1.db, will it just be created anew when required?19:09
NIN101not sure.19:10
merlin1991I think the sqlite libraries ususally do so19:24
merlin1991but just move the file and reboot to see19:24
merlin1991DocScrutinizer:   0.8.2-0maemo66+0m5+0cssu0 is my new best firend from the verisons in -stable :D19:25
merlin1991s/firend/friend/19:25
infobotmerlin1991 meant: DocScrutinizer:   0.8.2-0maemo66+0m5+0cssu0 is my new best friend from the verisons in -stable :D19:25
DocScrutinizer51haha19:26
merlin1991bah wrong pubkey on garage19:43
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merlin1991fu maemo.org :D19:43
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merlin1991well now I have time to prepare the changelog19:46
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merlin1991new -stable is in the repos: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable20:44
DocScrutinizer51omg, it seems I'm getting too old for this shit20:51
DocScrutinizer51and once again I prooved that trying to undertsand and fix/augment crappy existing code can take 10 times as long as a rewrite from scratch20:54
DocScrutinizer51AT LEAST >:-(20:54
DocScrutinizer51friggin idiocy to try and run unit tests on a communication channel driver in a fullly up'ed system that uses same channel for e.g. the CLI to the tests20:57
DocScrutinizer51sorry for OT20:58
merlin1991:D20:59
Palimerlin1991, see this commit for cbs widget: https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-operator-name-cbs-widget/commit/533fb818be137879b800db3feb755134913b198b20:59
merlin1991Pali: https://bugs.maemo.org/1251421:00
povbotBug 12514: Calculator program, percentage operations21:00
PaliYes, I know this21:00
merlin1991also when I get mag to compile -testing I'll have him include the commit21:01
DocScrutinizer51figure, you want to run automated regression tests against CSSU, by running scripts via ssh. How would you run those very tests for ssh itself?21:01
PaliI did not tested widget yet21:01
Palican somebody compile it?21:01
merlin1991I'll have a look into it21:02
DocScrutinizer51afk, bat low21:02
merlin1991though atm I rebooted to windows and will do a lil gaming, after 4 hours of getting a new -stable in shape :D21:02
merlin1991btw Pali I tested the merged tv-out and it still works as expected21:03
Palinice :-)21:03
Palitvout has one problem: upstream has changed section to user/*21:04
Paliwe should use origin section: libs for control panel and status area plugins21:04
Palibecuase user could not uninstall them (part of system)21:04
merlin1991true, only the widget should be in user/*21:05
* merlin1991 wrote it down on the todo21:05
Palionly desktop widget is in user section, because is optional21:05
Paliand not installed by default21:05
Paliand old version of desktop widget is in extras-*21:05
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merlin1991hm I need a kickass 480x800 spacpic to replace the milkyway in portait :D21:08
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merlin1991Pali: got the link for injection modules for pk50?21:25
* merlin1991 wants to upgrade from 46 :D21:25
Palimerlin1991, it is announce thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8311821:26
Palibut I did not tested injection wl1251 module yet with kp5021:26
Palishit that calculator bug is not possible to fix without rewriting full calculator code21:27
Paliagain problem that for that we need finite automata21:28
Palierr, not finite but pushdown automaton21:30
merlin1991Pali: ham got stuck when upgrading power kernel :D21:52
Lava_Croft:<21:54
merlin1991though after installing the actual packge21:54
merlin1991it's stuck with the overlay of updated successfully21:54
merlin1991seems I entered sawpping hell with wget21:57
merlin1991(dl a 500 mb pack in the bg) as soon as I aborted that it worked again21:57
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merlin1991I think I fux0red my wlireless with those drivers22:05
merlin1991I think I just did step #1 towards bricking my n900 (rm -r /lib/modules/blbla) before I realised I don't have the backup on device :/22:13
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merlin1991thank god for the pk fix to the bootscripts22:31
merlin1991flashed stock kernel, booted that, now fixing modules, then reflashing pk22:31
Sicelonew stable? nice22:43
Sicelo:)22:43
Sicelobtw, guess /topic needs updating22:44
merlin1991true22:44
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Sicelodumb question.. what's this `zoom` in h-d?22:45
merlin1991ctrl+shift+s and ctrl+shift+f22:50
merlin1991broken and removed :D22:50
merlin1991was in there as a poc22:50
Lava_Croftit was as useless as the feature on iOS was22:51
Siceloi didn't even know about it, lol22:52
Sicelostock has it?22:53
merlin1991no, cssu had it22:54
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