IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Thursday, 2012-02-23

merlin1991hm00:00
merlin1991k let's say we're done for today00:00
merlin1991Pali: about bug #1244400:00
povbotBug https://bugs.maemo.org/12444 osso-pdf-viewer: need to translate new string00:00
merlin1991could you re the pdf-viewer translations? I don't think we're going to get them from nokia, no response since last year00:01
Doc_No_ACTA_zerso 17.5 this time ;-)00:01
PaliI do not know how to RE l10n packages00:01
freemangordonPali, it is very easy00:01
merlin1991hm who was it that did re the camera-ui packages then?00:01
freemangordonme00:01
merlin1991ooops :$00:02
merlin1991well in that case freemangordon can you do it then?00:02
Palialso tvout-l10n should be usefull00:02
PaliI added new strings in control panel00:02
freemangordonok, but won't happen soon, I am fixing last glitches in tasknav, after that have to remove zoom00:03
freemangordonfrom h-d00:03
merlin1991okay00:03
Paliok00:03
freemangordonmerlin1991, did you look at garage management system?00:03
merlin1991didn't find the time, will do that this weekend00:04
freemangordonas we need to keep assigments in one place00:04
freemangordonok00:04
merlin1991yeah some publicly? readable assignment list should be helpfull00:04
freemangordonand will be easier for us not so young :D00:05
merlin1991:D00:05
merlin1991arcean: whatabout the mg for the hildon-home with wallpaper support for up to 9 images?00:05
Doc_No_ACTA_zeranybody tested 1.3.0 of marble?00:06
freemangordonI think he still wait my MRs00:06
merlin19911.3.0 of marble? wtf?00:07
PaliI see on my n900, that fmtxd and n900-fmrx-enabler is still running and I cannot kill processes (they are spawned again). it is OK?00:07
freemangordonPali, lets move to #maemo00:08
Doc_No_ACTA_zerBY THE WAY00:08
Doc_No_ACTA_zer:-/00:08
merlin1991Doc_No_ACTA_zer: what are you on about?00:09
Doc_No_ACTA_zerI recently see strange segfaults in a number of apps (namely Fahrplan and Marble), always some seconds after they tried to download stuff via 2/3G00:09
Doc_No_ACTA_zerand suddenly I recall my yesterday's comment about guinea pig00:10
Doc_No_ACTA_zeractually it seems related to GPS and missing internet connectivity00:10
merlin1991you are guinea pig for an updated osso-wlan which is related to the way maemo checks for avaiable wireless connections00:11
Doc_No_ACTA_zerhmm00:11
merlin1991completely independend of 2/3G00:11
Doc_No_ACTA_zermight that occur the same moment 3G doesn't provide proper connectivity and an app tries to "talk"00:12
Doc_No_ACTA_zer?00:12
merlin1991hm00:12
merlin1991well you can always revert the binary and see if you get rid of your segfaults00:12
merlin1991it's /usr/bin/wlancond00:13
merlin1991but you have to know yourself where you placed the backup ;)00:13
Doc_No_ACTA_zerluckily Fahrplan blow-chunks is kinda reproducible00:13
Doc_No_ACTA_zeryou bet it's  /usr/bin/wlancond_orig00:14
merlin1991ah sry /usr/sbin/wlancond00:14
merlin1991had a typo there00:14
Doc_No_ACTA_zermompls, only need to switch windows ;-)00:15
Doc_No_ACTA_zerMEH, wlancond.bak00:16
Doc_No_ACTA_zer;)00:16
Doc_No_ACTA_zerthe strange thing is the 'huge' delay between last user interaction and actual *plop* of window00:17
Doc_No_ACTA_zersometimes up to 20s00:17
Doc_No_ACTA_zerusually some 500:17
merlin1991odd00:18
merlin1991I don't think though that it's wlanconds fault00:18
Doc_No_ACTA_zerin fahrplan we had the notorious limited lifetime (close after 120s)00:18
Doc_No_ACTA_zerbut it got fixed some years ago00:19
merlin1991I think a reboot is the safest way to get the 'new' wlancond in place00:19
Doc_No_ACTA_zerno it closes whenever I search for a bus station and no internet available00:19
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Doc_No_ACTA_zeractually marbel *plop*ed exactly on same task, same way00:20
merlin1991what is marbel actually?00:20
Doc_No_ACTA_zermarble00:20
Doc_No_ACTA_zermappero competitor00:20
merlin1991how can I try to reproduce your problem?00:21
Doc_No_ACTA_zerwith on board routing00:21
merlin1991(in marble)00:21
Doc_No_ACTA_zerinstall fahrplan, enter some BS to start or end point of travel, while you're not connected to 3G (rather I always been connected but had no signal)00:22
Doc_No_ACTA_zerOOH, nah00:22
Doc_No_ACTA_zerbetter00:22
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Doc_No_ACTA_zersimply click "GPS" when on the start addr requester00:22
Doc_No_ACTA_zerthat's what killed it every time for me00:23
merlin1991okay going to try on stock, testing and stable (with modified wlancond)00:23
Doc_No_ACTA_zernot this time though, well I'm on WLAN00:24
Doc_No_ACTA_zerand it properly offered the next 20 bus stations after a short "thinking"00:24
Doc_No_ACTA_zermore often than not it returns to the text input for street name without popping up any selection list for suggested bus stops, and 5s later BOOM00:25
merlin1991stable with modfied wlancond works fine on wlan, asks for connection without wlan00:25
Doc_No_ACTA_zermine never asks for connection, as it's allowed to connect to everything every time00:26
merlin1991can't let it do that here since ap needs power-saving none00:27
merlin1991which is a nogo for autoconnects :D00:27
merlin19913 hrs later the battery is flat :/00:27
Doc_No_ACTA_zerI dropped WLAN and re-did the GPS thing in Fahrplan. This time it acted like usual first, in that it's simply frozen for 5s. After that time I guess 3G kicked in and it worked like a charm00:28
Doc_No_ACTA_zerif however 3G wouldn't offer connectivity, I guess Fahrplan stays frozen and eventually gets killed by whomever00:29
Doc_No_ACTA_zerprolly some dbus timeout00:29
Doc_No_ACTA_zerso odds are this is not related to wlancond00:30
Doc_No_ACTA_zerrather to liblocation or general network access00:30
* Doc_No_ACTA_zer idly wonders where's the next elevator, similarly RF-tight like the one in office, to get 3G drop connectivity00:32
Doc_No_ACTA_zerYAY, my battery00:32
Doc_No_ACTA_zer15h and already needs recharge00:32
Doc_No_ACTA_zerGPS is a power hog00:32
Doc_No_ACTA_zerxchat ith missing connectivity as well00:33
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Doc_No_ACTA_zer(retries connect every 10s)00:34
merlin1991Doc_No_ACTA_zer: just crashed it with wlan after clicking gps00:34
Doc_No_ACTA_zer:nod:00:34
Doc_No_ACTA_zergood to hear it's not just me00:34
Doc_No_ACTA_zerI think it might be related to GPS allegedly "available" while it still has "poor accuracy fix" at best00:35
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merlin1991though I can't get the 2 other n900s to get a fix since they don't have a sim inserted00:36
* merlin1991 starts swapping sims00:36
Doc_No_ACTA_zerHAHA, bug #18.5 killed, with a rolled up newspaper, on the wall XP00:37
povbotBug https://bugs.maemo.org/18 No initrd file supplied00:37
Doc_No_ACTA_zeryay, those were the times00:38
merlin1991:D00:38
merlin1991okay booting stock maemo with sim00:39
Doc_No_ACTA_zernext session we should achieve to get 24 bugs done in 120 min00:39
merlin1991let's see if I can reproduce00:39
merlin1991probably possible00:39
merlin1991because we'll do next, next, next next,00:39
merlin1991on most of them in the list00:39
merlin1991interesting are only the last few00:40
merlin1991from andre00:40
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merlin1991fucking mynokia bullcrap00:46
merlin1991Doc_No_ACTA_zer: couldn't reproduce your gps bug on stock in a few tries, though I'm still not convinced it's wlanconds fault, we'll see if you still get it with the reverted deamon00:48
merlin1991hi00:48
merlin1991wrong window :D00:48
merlin1991MohammadAG: ping?00:54
Doc_No_ACTA_zermerlin1991: I'm rather sure it's not wlancond00:57
Doc_No_ACTA_zer[2012-02-22 23:35:33] <Doc_No_ACTA_zer> I think it might be related to GPS allegedly "available" while it still has "poor accuracy fix" at best00:58
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uneedstfugserghsrgser11:50
uneedstfuquestions!!!!11:50
uneedstfuI have some serious concern11:55
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DocScrutinizer51DocScrutinizer: test12:23
* DocScrutinizer51 also has some serious concern ;-P12:24
DocScrutinizer51why has uneedstfu a unafilliated cloak, for exampe ;)12:25
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merlin1991and why does he/she have a cloak and sill does drive by questions17:09
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griMohammadAG: Any way to get "QtMobility.contacts 1.1" QML modules with cssu?18:35
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