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| Pali | hi, when is next bugmeeting? | 19:10 |
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| merlin1991 | Pali: topic tells ya :D | 19:20 |
| merlin1991 | or not | 19:21 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: why is the meeting not in the topic anymore | 19:21 |
| merlin1991 | anyway it's @ 20:UTC | 19:22 |
| Pali | ok | 19:22 |
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| *** merlin1991 changes topic to "Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1 | STABLE: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1129261 \o/ | bugmeeting today 20:00 UTC" | 19:23 | |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | merlin1991: maybe I nuked it | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | not planned to do | 20:50 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, I am ill, most probably won't be able to participate :( | 20:51 |
| merlin1991 | :/ | 20:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm dead, so will be there in zombie state ;-) | 21:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | out for dinner, yet online | 21:45 |
| * merlin1991 searches for the other 2 n900s | 21:59 | |
| merlin1991 | okay who's around? | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | semi | 22:01 |
| merlin1991 | Pali, freemangordon, MohammadAG, DocScrutinizer51 ping | 22:01 |
| Pali | pong | 22:01 |
| Pali | I'm here | 22:01 |
| merlin1991 | I've sent mag an sms, so we'll start in ~5 mins | 22:03 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991: You did? | 22:04 |
| merlin1991 | I did | 22:04 |
| merlin1991 | don't tell me you've got wrong sims and stuff again | 22:05 |
| merlin1991 | okay, first bug for today is bug #12248 | 22:06 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12248 camera always turns flash light on, even if set off | 22:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | cnd | 22:07 |
| Pali | is that problem in old closed nokia camera-ui or new cssu version? | 22:08 |
| merlin1991 | it's valid for new cssu version | 22:08 |
| merlin1991 | though I don't know if it's simply needed for the autofocus | 22:09 |
| merlin1991 | stock camera-ui behaves the same | 22:09 |
| merlin1991 | I guess it's focus related | 22:09 |
| merlin1991 | ah wait the device I tested it on was stable, so I can only say for stock ui | 22:09 |
| merlin1991 | someone with -testing please test | 22:10 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | it's only for fist shot, and on both cams | 22:10 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | first | 22:10 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | known | 22:10 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | since....... | 22:11 |
| merlin1991 | is that actually a bug or invalid? | 22:11 |
| merlin1991 | since it seems to stop the light when the autofocus is finished | 22:11 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | valid, though incorrexctly stated | 22:11 |
| merlin1991 | can we do something about it? | 22:12 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | dunno | 22:12 |
| merlin1991 | in other words is the underlying stuff nokia closed or oss? | 22:12 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | prolly not | 22:12 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: any idea? | 22:13 |
| Pali | no idea | 22:13 |
| Pali | I do not know camera code | 22:13 |
| merlin1991 | so I'll ask nicolai, k | 22:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | comment: "known issue for stock cam, for fist shot only. WONTFIX" | 22:14 |
| merlin1991 | well if we can fix it I wouldn't mark it wontfix | 22:14 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | or rather PRIO?lowest | 22:15 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yup | 22:15 |
| merlin1991 | next in the list is bug #12251 | 22:16 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12251 Upgrades only manually in X Terminal with apt-get code. | 22:16 |
| merlin1991 | that one quite possibly is due to a fucked up system | 22:16 |
| merlin1991 | only hte last 2 attachments are interesting | 22:16 |
| Pali | att: picture3-problems_en - I think problem is not valid | 22:17 |
| Pali | in picture are packages which should be in cssu repo | 22:17 |
| merlin1991 | my thought exactly | 22:17 |
| Pali | I think problem when user must wait until HAM finish apt-get update job | 22:18 |
| Pali | (not apt-get update, but similar) | 22:18 |
| merlin1991 | probably | 22:18 |
| merlin1991 | okay next up is bug #12285 | 22:19 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12285 Modest does not keep emails on server even if option to do so is set | 22:19 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | wireshark | 22:20 |
| Pali | no idea, I do not use POP | 22:20 |
| merlin1991 | I'll investigate then | 22:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | IMAP/POP?? | 22:21 |
| Pali | I think POP | 22:21 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer51: pop | 22:21 |
| merlin1991 | I'll check the bug, next up is bug #12300 | 22:22 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12300 Clock crashes after choosing Music for Alarm | 22:22 |
| merlin1991 | invalid neither a package in cssu nor open source so we could look into it | 22:23 |
| Pali | I think it is closed | 22:23 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | MAFW? | 22:24 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer51: nah, the alarm clock operates outside mafw | 22:24 |
| merlin1991 | though is that an INVALID or a WONTFIX? | 22:24 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | CND | 22:25 |
| merlin1991 | cnd means? | 22:25 |
| Pali | I think that somebody rewritten clock app | 22:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | can not duplicate | 22:26 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: yes there is a rewrite somewhere on tmo | 22:26 |
| Pali | and can be this problem (if exists too) fixed in that rewritten app? | 22:26 |
| merlin1991 | in the rewritten app for sure | 22:27 |
| merlin1991 | though what do we do with the bug at hand? move the component to the stock clock and abandon it? keep it? close it as invalid? | 22:27 |
| Pali | freemangordon, do you know state of clock app which is rewritten? | 22:27 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | CND | 22:28 |
| Pali | if that open source clone will be part of cssu in future, bug can be marked as in progress/waiting | 22:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | never seen that problem | 22:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | It cdan get marked FUD | 22:29 |
| merlin1991 | yeah worksforme I guess, can't reproduce it either | 22:30 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | needinfo. What's the clock version, what's the 'muaic' file? | 22:30 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | or CND/WFM | 22:30 |
| merlin1991 | hm that actually makes more sense | 22:30 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer51: there is no cnd status for bugs, we can only mark stuff as fixed/invalid/wfm/wontfix/duplicate | 22:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | NB I can't check the tickets here | 22:31 |
| merlin1991 | will post a comment for more ifno | 22:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | wfm == cnd | 22:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | kinda | 22:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | wfm might mean 'we fixed it' | 22:32 |
| merlin1991 | btw pali what did we decide about the silly ham 8% check? | 22:32 |
| Pali | remove that 8% check - it is stupid | 22:33 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | indeed | 22:33 |
| merlin1991 | do we have a commmit on gitorious for that already? | 22:33 |
| freemangordon | Pali, AFAIK it needs some more work | 22:33 |
| Pali | merlin1991, in my git repo: https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-hildon-application-manager/commit/4226aeb868a0fa250f92325d6819c62ef9bde6f4 | 22:34 |
| Pali | but it is UNTESTED | 22:34 |
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| Pali | freemangordon, ok | 22:35 |
| arcean | hi everyone | 22:35 |
| merlin1991 | hey | 22:35 |
| Pali | hi | 22:35 |
| merlin1991 | okay next bug: #12320 | 22:37 |
| merlin1991 | bug #12320 | 22:37 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12320 Change default value of mov-mode for HildonPannableArea to HILDON_MOVEMENT_MODE_BOTH to allow horizontal scrolling by default | 22:37 |
| merlin1991 | silly bot | 22:37 |
| Pali | confirmed | 22:38 |
| merlin1991 | Imo we can't do that because existing applications might depend on the HILDON_MOVEMENT_MODE_VERTICAL default | 22:38 |
| Pali | same problem in modest with slovak localization (which has longer strings) | 22:38 |
| merlin1991 | I mean yes there are billions of apps that should be pannable horizontally but that is app specific | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yup | 22:38 |
| merlin1991 | I don't think that should be fixed on the hildon framework level | 22:39 |
| arcean | I think it's fixed for hildon details dialog used by pdf viewer or file manager | 22:39 |
| Pali | afaik open dialog is open source | 22:39 |
| Pali | comapp (or similar name) package | 22:39 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | we could fix it by setting an ENV | 22:40 |
| Pali | see bug 5424 | 22:40 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/5424 Unable to scroll horizontally in File manager's details dialog when the file name is too "long" | 22:40 |
| arcean | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libhildonfm/commit/acaf5d13a1fd79e1bb5a3c4ebd1f644ab64ed228 | 22:41 |
| merlin1991 | yeah that one is in stable and - testing | 22:41 |
| Pali | maybe asking andre if he know exact reason why patch was not upstreamed | 22:41 |
| merlin1991 | but looking at the bugreport itself | 22:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | HildonVertPannable=true filemanager | 22:41 |
| merlin1991 | it makes no sense to have pannable areas in general pannable | 22:42 |
| merlin1991 | there's a reason why the pan only vertically by default | 22:42 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | that's why you check $ENV for that | 22:43 |
| merlin1991 | imo bug #12320 is invalid since we don't want to change that on framework level | 22:44 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12320 Change default value of mov-mode for HildonPannableArea to HILDON_MOVEMENT_MODE_BOTH to allow horizontal scrolling by default | 22:44 |
| merlin1991 | we fixed the filemanager, but we don't want to possibly break apps | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | merlin1991: we can use getenv() | 22:45 |
| merlin1991 | what do you want todo with getenv? and at what level? | 22:46 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | so it will only 'break' apps where you set HildonPanMode=both in the app's environment | 22:46 |
| merlin1991 | but apps who want the hildonpanmode both should do so in their code | 22:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | *sigh* | 22:47 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51, thats a hack and we have only filemanager ad rss reader as examples in bug report. Filemanager is fixed and RSS reader is OSS AFAIK | 22:47 |
| Pali | problem also in modest | 22:48 |
| Pali | I can post screen | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | :nod: | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | nm | 22:48 |
| Pali | (modest in slovak lang) | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | afk for 10in | 22:48 |
| freemangordon | modest reflows the text AFAIK | 22:48 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: not in all widgets | 22:48 |
| Pali | but it can be fixed in modest | 22:48 |
| freemangordon | :nod:, it is not a framework bug | 22:49 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: that was my understanding | 22:49 |
| merlin1991 | which would render the bug itself invalid but bugs against each app valid | 22:49 |
| freemangordon | agree | 22:49 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: what do you think? | 22:49 |
| Pali | report bugs to each app | 22:50 |
| Pali | global fix not possible | 22:50 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | this only changes te bug to an enhancement | 22:50 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51, we have no clue which applications will be affected an how | 22:51 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | of course possible | 22:51 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: doc suggests that we at hildon level check for env | 22:51 |
| merlin1991 | so you can start single apps with that env in order to 'fix' them | 22:52 |
| freemangordon | yeah, I saw, but that is a hack | 22:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | debug=66 acmeapp | 22:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yeah, unix is a hack | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and I'm proud of that | 22:53 |
| freemangordon | I meant hack as a coding practice | 22:53 |
| Pali | http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/screenshot-modest.png | 22:53 |
| merlin1991 | well anyway, the bug in question is invalid, it could be refiled in form of docs suggestion as an enhancement | 22:53 |
| arcean | Pali, ah I have the same problem with some applets in Settings | 22:54 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: that's actually true for the german translation also | 22:54 |
| freemangordon | Pali, but there is a horizontal scrollbar?!? | 22:54 |
| arcean | freemangordon, which is not working | 22:54 |
| Pali | not working! | 22:54 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: bar is there but you can't scroll | 22:54 |
| Pali | also bug can be fixed by decreasing space between name and value | 22:55 |
| freemangordon | ok. well, it looks UGLY anyway, maybe someone should play a little with translations | 22:55 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | AAAAH! better | 22:55 |
| Pali | do you know if it is possible to enable scrollbar in app? | 22:56 |
| merlin1991 | it is | 22:56 |
| merlin1991 | ah wait you mean enable the scrollbar so you can scroll with it? | 22:56 |
| freemangordon | should be | 22:56 |
| merlin1991 | that I don't know | 22:57 |
| Pali | adding some function for that can be also fix | 22:57 |
| arcean | GtkScrolledWindow instead of HildonPannableArea? | 22:57 |
| freemangordon | give me a minute to look through the proposed patch | 22:58 |
| merlin1991 | in the meantime bug #12445 | 22:58 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12445 hildon-status-menu displays only 2 icons in portrait | 22:58 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: we do have the patched hildon-status-menu in testing already? | 22:58 |
| arcean | yes | 22:59 |
| arcean | fixed in the latest release | 22:59 |
| freemangordon | well, the patch is for hildonfm, forget about it | 22:59 |
| merlin1991 | hm some ideas to get a few icons? | 22:59 |
| * merlin1991 wants to check on -stable | 22:59 | |
| freemangordon | Pali,"g_object_set(priv->scroll, "mov-mode", HILDON_MOVEMENT_MODE_BOTH, NULL);". That is how scrollbar is enabled on application level | 23:00 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | 12445 sounds like a statement, not like a bug | 23:00 |
| merlin1991 | 12445 is actually fixed in testing | 23:01 |
| freemangordon | yep | 23:01 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | so, please don't bring that to us ;-D | 23:01 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | next | 23:01 |
| Pali | freemangordon, api is here: http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/hildon/HildonPannableArea.html | 23:01 |
| merlin1991 | next up, bug #12454 | 23:02 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12454 utilities infocmp, tic, tput etc not installed though busybox provides ncurses-bin | 23:02 |
| Pali | I think we can add some public HildonPannableArea function which call that g_object_set on priv | 23:02 |
| freemangordon | so it is up to app developer to change movement mode | 23:02 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | CBA to think about messybox ;-P | 23:02 |
| freemangordon | Pali, that code is from here https://bugs.maemo.org/attachment.cgi?id=1420 | 23:03 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | 12454 comment: "closing as INVALID, it's messybox, not CSSU" | 23:03 |
| Pali | freemangordon, ok - so this code can be added to modest (and maybe other buggy applications) | 23:04 |
| freemangordon | yep | 23:04 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | WTF CSSU isn't responsible to provide a convenient set of app install presets for user | 23:04 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | terse: "tic, tput etc not installed" SO WHAT? install it! KTNXBY | 23:05 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer51: read other comments | 23:05 |
| merlin1991 | the bugreport is badly worded | 23:05 |
| merlin1991 | fu you tabcompletion meant to write Doc_No_ACTA_zer | 23:05 |
| merlin1991 | The infocmp command is in the ncurses-bin package. On the N900, this package is | 23:06 |
| merlin1991 | not installed, but the busybox package declares that it provides ncurses-bin | 23:06 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | so what? | 23:06 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | are we responsible for messybox? | 23:06 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | oooh we are | 23:06 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | :-S | 23:06 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | it's MP | 23:06 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | isn't it? | 23:06 |
| * Doc_No_ACTA_zer shudders about messybox | 23:07 | |
| merlin1991 | well we are not directly responsible for messybox, but we could get the messybox from stock and remove the *provides ncurses-bin* from it's control file | 23:07 |
| merlin1991 | basically providing the same messybox that doesn't claim anymore that it's awesome | 23:08 |
| freemangordon | agree | 23:08 |
| * Doc_No_ACTA_zer opens a bug against CSSU: "replace messybox by a decent fully usable shell" | 23:08 | |
| Pali | or upgrade messybox :D | 23:08 |
| freemangordon | Doc_No_ACTA_zer, that is enhancement request :p | 23:08 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!! | 23:08 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | freemangordon: indeed | 23:08 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | though, arguably messybox is one huge fat bug | 23:09 |
| merlin1991 | though it's not that easy | 23:09 |
| merlin1991 | messybox provides 50% if what ususally should be in ncurses-bin | 23:09 |
| merlin1991 | I think the best thing here would be not to invest time and instead to point towards busybox-power | 23:09 |
| freemangordon | is it stable? | 23:09 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | s/in ncurses-bin/in a decent shell/ | 23:10 |
| merlin1991 | which has upgraded messybox and stuff | 23:10 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: I use it on all my devices and never ran into a problem | 23:10 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | I use bash3 and never ran into any problem | 23:10 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | ;-P | 23:10 |
| Pali | busybox-power replace /bin/busybox? | 23:10 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | and I **HATE** this reverse polish notation | 23:11 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | cookie-sweet, beer-cold, Flop-idiotic, kernel-power | 23:12 |
| Pali | busybox shell has big problem with utf8 input chars | 23:12 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: it does replace /bin/busybox | 23:12 |
| merlin1991 | I'd rather not reproduce what busybox power does, so closing as wontfix ? | 23:12 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | I dman get scared when somebody tells me about messybox power, the secret power of messybox | 23:13 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, wouldn't it be better to confirm it and assign low priority? | 23:13 |
| merlin1991 | or that | 23:13 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | I'm not sure if I get scared about that secret dark power, or the guy that tells me about it ;-P | 23:14 |
| freemangordon | as maybe there will be a way to change control file in such a way there will be no more conflick | 23:14 |
| merlin1991 | okay will do that | 23:14 |
| Pali | clone to gitorious and change control file | 23:14 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | kernel-power sounds like kernkraft whic means nuclear power in German | 23:15 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: the problem is it does provide a part the nurses commands | 23:15 |
| merlin1991 | like reset | 23:15 |
| Pali | ah | 23:15 |
| freemangordon | something wit alternatives? | 23:15 |
| Pali | so proper fix will be to upgrade busybox | 23:16 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 23:16 |
| Pali | confirmed and low priority | 23:16 |
| merlin1991 | proper fix would be to enable everything in ncurses in messybox and ship it that way | 23:16 |
| merlin1991 | k confimred and low prio | 23:16 |
| merlin1991 | next up is bug #12474 | 23:16 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12474 With Desktop locked to landscape and phone to portrait, phone launches in landscape mode | 23:16 |
| Pali | really bug? | 23:17 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | kernel-power, DMAN. Shoot the guy who thought that name was better than e.g. kernel+ or kernel-improved or powerkernel | 23:17 |
| freemangordon | well, I think we should agree on WTF lock means once and fo all. And bahave accordingly. | 23:17 |
| merlin1991 | I think against the current implementation the bug is invalid | 23:18 |
| Pali | I think that if system (hildon) is set to landscape only, then every app will be landscape | 23:18 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | I think that the bug is against the rationale behind current implementation | 23:19 |
| freemangordon | but current implementation seems logical to me | 23:20 |
| merlin1991 | I think any bugs agains the orientation lock are invalid since the lock iself is a clusterfuck | 23:20 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | and I think there ought to be a requirement spec that clearly defines what orientation lock means and how it's supposed to work | 23:20 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | merlin1991: ++ | 23:20 |
| * merlin1991 proposes to leave that bug and any other lock related bugs alone untill we havae a clearly defined spec what we want todo with a lock | 23:21 | |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | YES! | 23:21 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 23:21 |
| Pali | ok | 23:21 |
| merlin1991 | next up: bug #12475 | 23:21 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12475 Oversized Phone UI - Incoming Call (Portuguese language) | 23:21 |
| Pali | wontfix - phone ui is closed | 23:22 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | reassign to txl8n | 23:22 |
| merlin1991 | ah wait, it's actually about the lock again | 23:22 |
| merlin1991 | it's the issue you get when the landscape lock is on | 23:23 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | MEH, next | 23:23 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 23:23 |
| merlin1991 | next: bug #12478 | 23:23 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12478 SIP support broken after installation of CSSU (rtcom-accounts-voip-support removed?) | 23:23 |
| merlin1991 | povbot sleeping? | 23:23 |
| povbot | merlin1991: Error: "sleeping?" is not a valid command. | 23:23 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | ;-P | 23:23 |
| merlin1991 | confirm and die in hell I guess | 23:24 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | indeed | 23:24 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | we had the topic err yesterday? | 23:24 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | need a apt guru | 23:24 |
| merlin1991 | I mean we can depend on rtcom-accounts-voip-support in the metapacke in order to have ham keep it installed | 23:24 |
| merlin1991 | which is a valid workaround | 23:24 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | all for that | 23:24 |
| merlin1991 | and since that package is such a widespread missing piece I'd actually suggest doing that | 23:25 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | yes | 23:25 |
| freemangordon | does mp-fremantle-pr depend on it? | 23:25 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 23:25 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | that'S the question XD | 23:25 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | maybe it does in PR1.3 and beyond | 23:25 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | but not in MP PR1.2 | 23:26 |
| merlin1991 | hm actually it doesn't | 23:26 |
| Pali | can you check if all packages which mp-fremantle-pr depend on is in CSSU metapackage? | 23:26 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | so the friggin rtcom-sip gets auto-removed when you upgraded instead of flashed | 23:26 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | or vice versa | 23:26 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: we don't depend on all | 23:26 |
| merlin1991 | we only depend on our pacakges | 23:26 |
| Pali | ok | 23:27 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, but maybe we should | 23:27 |
| merlin1991 | because the installer marks all mp packages as manually installed | 23:27 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | and suggests autoremove on each and every install you do | 23:27 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | (apt-get that is) | 23:27 |
| merlin1991 | we'll just depend on it | 23:28 |
| Pali | HAM is not using apt-get | 23:28 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | but sth similar | 23:28 |
| Pali | stupid apt-worker | 23:28 |
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| merlin1991 | anyway next bug #12494 | 23:28 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12494 Modest crashes couple of times a day due to internal application error | 23:28 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | MEH, obsolete | 23:29 |
| Pali | needsinfo | 23:29 |
| merlin1991 | that is prior the thumb fix, I'd just mark it as fixed | 23:29 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | yep | 23:29 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | note: "reopen if problem persists" | 23:29 |
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| merlin1991 | yeah | 23:30 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | note: "fixed in verX.Y reopen if problem persists" | 23:30 |
| merlin1991 | next up bug #12500 | 23:30 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12500 Some SD cards are not properly supported | 23:30 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | kernel | 23:30 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | next | 23:30 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 23:30 |
| freemangordon | but the bug is valid | 23:30 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | reassign kernel | 23:31 |
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| merlin1991 | I guess we jsut leave it untill we have a kernel in cssu | 23:31 |
| freemangordon | agree | 23:31 |
| merlin1991 | which probably will never happen | 23:31 |
| freemangordon | why? | 23:31 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | or until my cows play bowling | 23:31 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, why do you think it will never happen? | 23:32 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | reasasign kernel, next | 23:32 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: because we have to find a sane way to make sure we're not replacing any user flashed kernel | 23:32 |
| freemangordon | and that is a showstopper? | 23:32 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | yes | 23:32 |
| merlin1991 | next bug #12516 | 23:32 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12516 Error Message camera-ui: "Not enough memory to save photo" | 23:32 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | on a conceptual level | 23:32 |
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| Pali | I can create tool in postinst or wrapper around fiasco-* to show message box about flashing yes/no question | 23:33 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | no way | 23:33 |
| freemangordon | which could be shown only if current kernel != omap1 | 23:33 |
| merlin1991 | can we read the flash where the kernel is from userspace? | 23:33 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | I wanna kick out nicocam, so don't hope for me cheering about getting *kernel* into CSSU | 23:33 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | merlin1991: sure | 23:34 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | but hey! | 23:34 |
| freemangordon | Doc_No_ACTA_zer, there are several bugs in omap1, what is the problem with better kernel? | 23:34 |
| merlin1991 | then we could md5sum over the flashed kernel and compare to stock kernel singatures | 23:34 |
| Pali | freemangordon: wrapping fiasco-* will show message for all kernels | 23:35 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | CSSU is supposed to work with stock kernel, so no way you convince me CSSU *needs* powerkernel | 23:35 |
| freemangordon | uname? | 23:35 |
| freemangordon | CSUU is supposed to not depend on kernel AIUI. | 23:35 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | 12516 I thought is fixed? | 23:36 |
| merlin1991 | guys all nice and shiny, but please another time (I can arrange a date for all the topics we have to discuss) | 23:36 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | also not applicable to S? | 23:36 |
| merlin1991 | not applicable to S doesn't cound :D | 23:36 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, let me check on gitorious | 23:36 |
| merlin1991 | original reporter didn't respond anymore | 23:36 |
| merlin1991 | and the bug that was in camera-ui got fixed | 23:37 |
| merlin1991 | so fixed? | 23:37 |
| freemangordon | but I think it is still not fixed | 23:37 |
| arcean | I'm not sure too | 23:37 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | so danm fix it! | 23:37 |
| merlin1991 | the problem is that if you have a /scratchbox dir $INTERNAL_MMC_MOUNTPOINT is not set | 23:37 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | the fix is around since... weeks? moths? | 23:37 |
| freemangordon | it was some ENV variable missing | 23:37 |
| merlin1991 | a /scratchbox dir has an influence on some bootup script | 23:38 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, is it a valid bug then? | 23:38 |
| merlin1991 | in a way | 23:38 |
| merlin1991 | having a /scratchbox dir is the prefered way to check for scratchbox env in scratchbox | 23:38 |
| freemangordon | because if you dont have that set, where nikocam is supposed to save the photos? | 23:39 |
| merlin1991 | I guess we can fix that | 23:39 |
| freemangordon | ok, confirm it then | 23:39 |
| merlin1991 | I'll have to find out in which package the script in question resides | 23:39 |
| merlin1991 | k confirm | 23:39 |
| Pali | better is checking /targets/links/scratchbox.config | 23:39 |
| Pali | it is also in postinst script in kernel package | 23:40 |
| merlin1991 | okay so we have a bug against af-defines.sh | 23:40 |
| freemangordon | open it | 23:40 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | *sigh* could we agree on assigning bugs to a developer that looks into them, rather than discussing each gory detail here at triage time? | 23:40 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | please! | 23:40 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 23:41 |
| merlin1991 | next up bug #12526 | 23:41 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12526 Desktop icons management for Landscape to Portrait transition | 23:41 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | *burp* | 23:41 |
| freemangordon | INVALID | 23:41 |
| freemangordon | or maybe WONTFIX | 23:42 |
| merlin1991 | I'd say wontfix | 23:42 |
| merlin1991 | the bug itself is valid, but we'll never have an algorithm that can sort everything properly | 23:42 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | CBA to open a browser to look into the ticket ;-) | 23:42 |
| freemangordon | yeah, making a complex algorithm for one-time usage does not make sense | 23:43 |
| merlin1991 | wontfix | 23:43 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | also next to impossible | 23:43 |
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| merlin1991 | next bug #12547 | 23:43 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12547 Changing sim reverts to Nokia's AGPS settings | 23:43 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | DUH! | 23:44 |
| merlin1991 | wontfix rtcom closed | 23:44 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | ack | 23:44 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | comment: "suggest a devel who's bored to write a mini-app to set the AGPS setting on click of an icon" | 23:45 |
| merlin1991 | next bug #12571 | 23:45 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12571 Unable to move zoom while on hildon-desktop | 23:45 |
| merlin1991 | related to bug #12031 | 23:45 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12031 Zoom out (ctrl-shift-f) goes one step too far | 23:45 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: did you look into it already? | 23:45 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | wasn't zoom meant to die? | 23:46 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 23:46 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, no, will try do do it tomorrow | 23:46 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | so WONTFIX | 23:46 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | comment "will fix itself when zoom dies" | 23:46 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | next | 23:47 |
| merlin1991 | bug #12576 | 23:47 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12576 hildon-desktop crashed after failed SDL png load | 23:47 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | [notice: 12min left] | 23:47 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: can you look into that one? I have nfc where to start with that one | 23:47 |
| arcean | merlin1991, ok will do | 23:48 |
| merlin1991 | perfect | 23:48 |
| Pali | when Stratagus (SDL app) crash also hildon-desktop segfault | 23:48 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | :-D | 23:48 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | next | 23:48 |
| merlin1991 | bug #12514 and bug #12515 | 23:49 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12514 Calculator program, percentage operations | 23:49 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12515 Calculator: Power function does not work if exponent is not an integer | 23:49 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | WOW | 23:49 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | povbot: cookie | 23:49 |
| povbot | Doc_No_ACTA_zer: Error: "cookie" is not a valid command. | 23:49 |
| freemangordon | Pali, isn't that fixed on gitorious? | 23:49 |
| Pali | both are commited on gitorious | 23:49 |
| Pali | see links | 23:49 |
| freemangordon | ok | 23:49 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | CBA to bother about calculator | 23:49 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | anyway, sounds like FIXED | 23:50 |
| freemangordon | well , will be fixed in next | 23:50 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | that's NOKIA flavour of FIXED XP | 23:50 |
| merlin1991 | k nokia fixed | 23:51 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | AIUI original poster shall CLOSE ticket when FIX arrives | 23:51 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | 8 min | 23:52 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | when's next meeting? | 23:52 |
| merlin1991 | next week same day same time? | 23:52 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | sure | 23:52 |
| Pali | ok | 23:52 |
| freemangordon | ok | 23:52 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: ? | 23:52 |
| arcean | ok | 23:52 |
| merlin1991 | okay | 23:52 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | so 7min left, let's close another 20 critters | 23:52 |
| merlin1991 | 16 bugs this time :) | 23:52 |
| merlin1991 | okay we'll go on then :) | 23:53 |
| freemangordon | we have time for one more | 23:53 |
| merlin1991 | next #11826 | 23:53 |
| merlin1991 | bug # 11826 | 23:53 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/11826 hildon-application-manager random crashes | 23:53 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 23:53 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | MEH, KTHNX | 23:53 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | next | 23:54 |
| Pali | needsinfo | 23:54 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | set to NEEDINFO if you deel like | 23:54 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | next | 23:54 |
| merlin1991 | okay we reached the already confirmed bugs now | 23:54 |
| merlin1991 | bug #11842 | 23:55 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/11842 RDesktop halt on connection screen | 23:55 |
| freemangordon | my favourite | 23:55 |
| freemangordon | not fixed | 23:55 |
| merlin1991 | did it work on stock? | 23:55 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | *cough* what? | 23:55 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, yes | 23:56 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | EEEW | 23:56 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | now THAT is the first good bug today | 23:56 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | blame MHD? | 23:57 |
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| merlin1991 | I wonder why it does halt | 23:58 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | I'd assign it to MHD maintainer/devel | 23:58 |
| freemangordon | it does not halt, you just can't see it | 23:58 |
| merlin1991 | I remember using RDesktop on cssu and it did work, it only had an insane wait period before it showed up | 23:59 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, see my comments on the bug report | 23:59 |
| freemangordon | Ivaylo Dimitrov | 23:59 |
| Doc_No_ACTA_zer | hmm, anyway, I'm adding a throttle to my zombie state right now | 23:59 |
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