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| gri | Is there a way of getting a newer QtMobility version into Maemo5? If you don't plan so, I can't port my app back and leave it out :) | 13:39 |
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| xmlich02 | gri, cssu update contains newer version of qt mobility than standard pr1.3 version | 13:45 |
| gri | xmlich02: Yes, but even that is too old :( I need to QtMobility.contacts 1.1 declarative module and cssu has 1.0 (which has no filter elements) | 13:46 |
| xmlich02 | oh i see. From my point of view, is bigger problem, that the non-cssu version contains older version of qt-components and qt mobility | 13:47 |
| gri | Well the non-cssu version is non usable for me :) I want to port my harmattan app back without changing much of the qml code | 13:48 |
| gri | on the c++ side I have a lot of changes for maemo5 but in qml I don't have much choice | 13:48 |
| xmlich02 | I have the same problem. I am not sure how to create package, which requires (asks for) cssu installation | 13:52 |
| xmlich02 | I was also trying to port of my application from harmattan, but I am not sure how to create this package to be possible publish it via ovi store | 14:02 |
| gri | I think this is not possible | 14:02 |
| gri | Mine runs (except of the mobility contacts thingy) but a lot of images are missing | 14:04 |
| gri | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iibDChIvBaw it atleast runs somehow :) | 14:16 |
| Lava_Croft | i never get tired of watching n900s | 14:19 |
| Lava_Croft | <3 | 14:19 |
| xmlich02 | gri, very nice application, i like it | 14:57 |
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| merlin1991 | gri: is QtMobility tied to the qt version directly? | 17:04 |
| merlin1991 | because afaik it isn't so we should be able todo so | 17:04 |
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| merlin1991 | ah yeah just found it, mobility is a seperate package | 17:05 |
| merlin1991 | gri: what parts were you missing in QtMoblility? | 17:05 |
| gri | merlin1991: QtMobility.contacts 1.1 | 17:13 |
| gri | all others are fine | 17:13 |
| merlin1991 | I'll write updateing QtMoblility onto my todo list | 17:13 |
| gri | It's just the declarative api, the c++ version is there from 1.0 | 17:14 |
| freemangordon | Anyone has tried to build a new clutter version? | 17:20 |
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| gri | merlin1991: QtMultimediaKit 1.1 would also be great (I think that belongs to mobility) | 17:53 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, I requested a merge of patch to remove zoom (along with other goodies) to arcean's repo. | 18:04 |
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| * amiconn wonders what gri's app is about | 20:23 | |
| gri | amiconn: Kind of replacement for the harmattan stock messaging application (but it sends the messages via internet sms providers) | 20:23 |
| amiconn | Hmm | 20:24 |
| * amiconn doesn't know harmattan, just maemo | 20:24 | |
| gri | well it exists for maemo but there it is a simple application | 20:26 |
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| Pali | ping merlin1991 MohammadAG | 22:46 |
| MohammadAG | pong | 22:46 |
| Pali | I fixed problem with osso-xterm to support scrolling back to the first line for applications like apt-get update | 22:46 |
| Pali | https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-osso-xterm/commit/666b0bd6b227a3e2e01f26eadc01c43e48f253a5 | 22:46 |
| Pali | when some app writing output every 1s it is impossible to scroll back to the first line | 22:47 |
| Pali | my patch change behaviour of autoscrolling: autoscroll only if is vissible last bottom line | 22:48 |
| Pali | and I found problem why terminal show a lot of empty lines if autorotation is enabled | 22:49 |
| Pali | problem is not in terminal but in busybox shell :-( | 22:49 |
| Pali | bash working fine without problem | 22:49 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer, it is possible to use default shell bash (in CSSU)? | 22:50 |
| Pali | busybox is really buggy, and this bug is for me enought! | 22:51 |
| MohammadAG | no, boot up scripts would break | 22:52 |
| MohammadAG | so unless someone has the time to go over all the scripts that'd break and fix those, then push a diff that would be applied in a package, no | 22:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's been correct for pre-1.2 | 22:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | AFAIK nobody tested it since OR1.2 | 22:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | PR* | 22:54 |
| Pali | and updating busybox? | 22:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually it's not the shell but the unix toolbox that init scripts blow chunks on | 22:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | so installing and even using in init a proper bash shall be safe, as long as you don't replace a few particular tools | 22:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | dunno if it's been ls, mount, find, or whatever else | 22:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | we analyzed it down to a few places in init scripts, but that'S like more than a year ago | 22:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | I can't recall | 22:57 |
| MohammadAG | Updating busybox shouldn't hurt I guess? | 22:58 |
| Pali | and busybox-power? | 22:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd rather install proper bash and tools for interactive usage, while keeping standard messybox for init | 23:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I got exactly this setup since .... meh dunno, long time | 23:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | updating busybox seems more risky than that | 23:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | just install all the bash and toolbox binaries to /home | 23:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | so no real reason why you would want to remove messybox at all | 23:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually messybox is bloatware, when you consider it installs a lot of functionality to / that's not really needed during boot time, prior to mount /home | 23:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | but well, Nokia did an abysmally poor job on system maintenance, when it comes to proper setup of /[s]bin vs /usr/[s]bin and optification etc | 23:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually it seems to me like they threw dice to decide what goes to /sbin and what to /usr/sbin | 23:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | really disgusting | 23:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | since I haven't invoked it in a time: | 23:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~optification | 23:19 |
| infobot | optification is a inventive duct tape workaround to reclaim space in fs root, done due to the fact the systeminit *and* partitioning is FUBAR, http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging,_Deploying_and_Distributing/Installing_under_opt_and_MyDocs, or ""OMG - I wish they looked into FHS and moved /usr to eMMC"", http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE2 bullet1,2 and fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE16 dot3" | 23:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | of course we *could* sanitize all this mess in CSSU, but I doubt it will buy us fame | 23:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ # bash | 23:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# echo $PATH | 23:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin/gnu:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin/gnu:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 | 23:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# exit | 23:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ # echo $PATH | 23:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 | 23:25 |
| MohammadAG | not that we want fame... | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ # cat .bashrc | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for interactive shells. | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | #PATH=/usr/bin/gnu:$PATH | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | PATH=$(echo $PATH|sed "s.:/usr/bin:.:/usr/bin/gnu:/usr/bin:.;s.:/usr/sbin:.:/usr/sbin/gnu:/usr/sbin:.") | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | export PATH | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | ... | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ # cat .profile | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | # ~/.profile: executed by Bourne-compatible login shells. | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | export PATH | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | if [ -f ~/.bashrc -a -n "$BASH" ]; then | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | . ~/.bashrc | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | fi | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | this is for ROOT! | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | will break things when you apply these changes to user | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | of course you can kick out the *IDIOTIC* lines >>if [ -f ~/.bashrc -a -n "$BASH" ]; then ~/.bashrc; fi<< and thus forbid messybox to source .bashrc. | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | which should make the whole thing safe for user as well | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | basg will source .bashrc anyway | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | bash* | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | some gashead inserted the lines above to .profile, to make messybox behave like bash a bit more :-(( | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway, init doesn't break on installing bash, and it doesn't break on installing unix toolbox. It breaks on *user* not running messybox tools in boot | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | your bootloop needs bash installed, set up as default shell in /etc/passwd, and defined as valid shell in /etc/shells | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | your bootloop needs bash installed, set up as *user's* default shell in /etc/passwd, and defined as valid shell in /etc/shells | 23:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so it's probably not even initscripts but xsession that kills boot | 23:51 |
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