| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: when will the update hit the repos? | 00:00 |
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| MohammadAG | merlin1991, soon (TM) | 00:00 |
| merlin1991 | yay (TM) | 00:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | TM(TM) | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | jaffa rarely ever seen around :-S | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | in this chan | 00:07 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: jaffa is the backup in case me and mag happen to fall for sudden death | 00:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: but it's not really helping he seems to stay away from our "meeting place" | 00:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, for a lord_keysaver it might suffice | 00:13 |
| ThreeM | he will be automaticly inform by a secret communication system. | 00:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | not supposed to know what's behind the door, just has to turn the key after checking for whom | 00:14 |
| ThreeM | it will trigger a auto-irc-connect to ;) | 00:14 |
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| * jonwil wonders if the problems with thumb were sorted out | 02:46 | |
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| merlin1991 | repos are still empty | 02:58 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: wassup, where's our release? | 02:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet he fell asleep, or got raped by a female fellow student - well I hope for female | 03:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I think it's 3am over at IL now | 03:03 |
| merlin1991 | well he said the magic words | 03:03 |
| merlin1991 | soon (tm) | 03:03 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 03:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | a fuzzy term | 03:03 |
| merlin1991 | fuzzy terms ftw | 03:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: you got admin on the T repo now, can'T you check what's state of pro(c|gr)ess? | 03:04 |
| merlin1991 | state of progress is, no package there | 03:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-/ | 03:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | *burp* | 03:05 |
| merlin1991 | but it means nothing since we build the packages locally and upload them for inclusion to the repo | 03:05 |
| * DocScrutinizer throws a bus in MohammadAG's general direction | 03:05 | |
| merlin1991 | so packages are in "staging" for max 5 mins | 03:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | probably upload of a few dozen MB takes like till next noon, with moh's crappy internet | 03:06 |
| merlin1991 | gosh don't remind me | 03:07 |
| merlin1991 | fsckd qt source upload (517mb) failed 4 times | 03:07 |
| merlin1991 | I know why -t never had qt sources in the repo | 03:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | no resume? | 03:08 |
| merlin1991 | no resume | 03:08 |
| merlin1991 | only straight scp | 03:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | FUUUCK | 03:08 |
| merlin1991 | I think to get those 517 mb out I uploaded about 1.7 gigs .D | 03:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | would take some days even here | 03:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | pretty "normal" 2048/256 DSL | 03:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | upload twice as fast as a double-ISDN :-P | 03:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd love to get the recent standard which is like 16000/1000 for my contract - fucktards at t-com told me "no free slot in DSLAM" | 03:11 |
| merlin1991 | luckily it's a 30k/2k here | 03:11 |
| merlin1991 | though the 2k up only work late in the night like now :D | 03:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so I'm locked down to 2M/256k while paying same as for 16M/1M | 03:13 |
| merlin1991 | that's just plain evil | 03:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | yup, and contract got a new season just 3 months ago | 03:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | dunno if 1 or 2 years | 03:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | fucktards | 03:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | probably I have to get cableDSL, then shoot the POTS line with 2kV each time they fixed it, for 3 months, and refuse to pay due to them not fulfilling contract | 03:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | after 3 months cancel the contract | 03:17 |
| merlin1991 | gotta love the 2kv part :D | 03:17 |
| merlin1991 | we had our fair shair of isp madnes here too, but it seems the situation is okish for now | 03:18 |
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| nox- | DocScrutinizer, :( | 03:19 |
| * DocScrutinizer idly ponders to finally do a full diskimage of laptop, then ponder update to latest (this OS is like 3 years old) | 03:24 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | proper diskimage requires init -s at least, MEH | 03:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | then I heard latest opensuse comes with this poettering init daemon - WAAAAAAAH | 03:27 |
| merlin1991 | you could always install bloatware, err (k)ubuntu | 03:27 |
| merlin1991 | or maybe go for the fancy and "new" linux mint? | 03:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | now how's THAT *any* better? | 03:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh wait, it only has upstart | 03:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so maybe actually better than opensuse | 03:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | ;-P | 03:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | buntkuh, OMG | 03:29 |
| * DocScrutinizer shudders | 03:30 | |
| merlin1991 | hehe | 03:31 |
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| Pali | ping andre__ | 13:38 |
| andre__ | Pali, pong | 13:38 |
| Pali | can you create Calculator CSSU section in maemo bugzilla? | 13:38 |
| Pali | and auto assign me for new calculator bugs? | 13:39 |
| andre__ | first part: yes. second part: no. give me a minute :) | 13:40 |
| andre__ | Pali: ah, I misread... sure I can make you default assignee, but I need your Bugzilla email address for that | 13:41 |
| Pali | ok, thanks | 13:47 |
| andre__ | all done | 13:51 |
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| Lava_Croft | Hackers and open source programmers around the world should also celebrate . Introversion will release source code for their games Darwinia, Multiwinia, DEFCON, and most importantly, Uplink ..." | 16:02 |
| jonwil | interesting news | 16:18 |
| jonwil | Not very relevant to Maemo though since the license specifically forbids ports to "PocketPC", "PalmOS", any other PDA Operating System | 16:19 |
| jonwil | well rather it says "Without the express written permission of Introversion" | 16:19 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, o hai | 16:48 |
| merlin1991 | hai back | 16:49 |
| merlin1991 | E: sms arrived whilsst still asleep :D | 16:49 |
| MohammadAG | that's why everyone needs a Siri | 16:49 |
| merlin1991 | nah I head the ping then thought, nah turned around and kept sleeping xD | 16:50 |
| MohammadAG | I finished cssu-maintenance in class today | 16:50 |
| MohammadAG | except it's written, literally | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | bad boy | 16:51 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, teacher was wasting time | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | good boy for us :-D | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | oh you talk about a pkg/app | 16:52 |
| merlin1991 | awesome | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | what's with T1.1? | 16:52 |
| MohammadAG | uploading | 16:52 |
| MohammadAG | as merlin1991 should've said | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | thought as much | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | tell me, you got female student colleagues there? :-D | 16:53 |
| MohammadAG | Mostly russians | 16:53 |
| MohammadAG | want one? | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | dunno | 16:53 |
| Raimu | :D | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | do they look good? | 16:53 |
| MohammadAG | all of them :p | 16:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-11-30 02:02:23] <DocScrutinizer> I bet he fell asleep, or got raped by a female fellow student - well I hope for female | 16:54 |
| MohammadAG | I fell in sleep the other day, got in trouble | 16:55 |
| MohammadAG | asleep* | 16:55 |
| MohammadAG | well, teacher never notices/gives a shit about people sleeping | 16:56 |
| MohammadAG | so I rested my head on my arms, and fell asleep, wasn't something I wanted to do | 16:56 |
| MohammadAG | but she noticed me, someone wanted to wake me up, she told him not to | 16:56 |
| MohammadAG | then she took a pic of me and went ahead with the lecture | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | hehehe | 16:58 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, this is all right? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=L2uJHK5s | 17:01 |
| MohammadAG | minus the metapackage of course | 17:01 |
| merlin1991 | certman fix? | 17:02 |
| merlin1991 | aka future pr 1.3.2 | 17:02 |
| MohammadAG | OH | 17:02 |
| * MohammadAG CTRL^C's | 17:02 | |
| MohammadAG | since you're admin | 17:03 |
| MohammadAG | can you merge the fixes with the repo under community-ssu? | 17:03 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, ? | 17:12 |
| merlin1991 | I guess | 17:12 |
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| MohammadAG | merlin1991, then do it, now :P | 17:13 |
| merlin1991 | guess what I'm doing :D | 17:13 |
| merlin1991 | done you can pull | 17:20 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: ^^ | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: so what's ETA of upload? | 17:22 |
| jonwil | whats this about a certman fix? | 17:28 |
| * jonwil checks repo | 17:29 | |
| jonwil | aha, its another root CA listing update | 17:30 |
| jonwil | presumably for that Malaysian incident or whatever it is | 17:30 |
| jonwil | yeah thats what the repo has to say | 17:32 |
| jonwil | makes sense to include it in the CSSU then | 17:32 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, 4 minutes? | 17:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | \o/ | 17:34 |
| MohammadAG | give or take an hour | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | +/- 2..5 resumes from start? | 17:35 |
| MohammadAG | k, fixed router, uploads twice as fast now | 17:42 |
| MohammadAG | freaking life on a 3G router | 17:42 |
| MohammadAG | camera-ui done | 17:42 |
| MohammadAG | hildon-desktop done | 17:44 |
| MohammadAG | modest done | 17:48 |
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| jonwil | internet must really suck in whatever part of the world you are in if 3G is your only option... | 17:49 |
| MohammadAG | dorms | 17:50 |
| jonwil | aah | 17:50 |
| MohammadAG | if I walk 10 minutes I can get 100MBps :p | 17:50 |
| MohammadAG | tinymail done | 17:50 |
| MohammadAG | [sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: ~/ssu/versionT1.1] > dput -f maemo-security-certman_0.2.1_armel.changes | 17:52 |
| MohammadAG | Upload package to host fremantle-extras-builder | 17:52 |
| MohammadAG | Uploading to fremantle-extras-builder (via scp to drop.maemo.org): | 17:52 |
| MohammadAG | ^Cexiting due to user interrupt. | 17:52 |
| MohammadAG | that was close | 17:52 |
| MohammadAG | almost upped to extras | 17:52 |
| MohammadAG | Uploading metapackage | 17:52 |
| * MohammadAG waits for email | 17:53 | |
| MohammadAG | Maemo Community SSU channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Stable:: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1129261 | Latest version: 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1.1 | 21.2011.38-1Smaemo1 | 17:54 |
| MohammadAG | err, forgot /cs topic :P | 17:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | \o/ | 17:54 |
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| *** ChanServ changes topic to "Maemo Community SSU channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Stable: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1129261 | Latest version: 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1.1 // 21.2011.38-1Smaemo1" | 17:55 | |
| MohammadAG | so... | 17:55 |
| MohammadAG | I'm thinking of making an uninstall script | 17:55 |
| MohammadAG | basically it'd downgrade all packages back | 17:55 |
| jonwil | so yeah MohammadAG, let me know whenever you have the time to talk about getting operator-name-cbs-widget into CSSU | 17:55 |
| MohammadAG | of course, there's a 50/50 chance failure | 17:55 |
| MohammadAG | jonwil, I'm free now | 17:56 |
| MohammadAG | does it have a configurable option to toggle between stock and CBS? | 17:56 |
| jonwil | yes it does | 17:56 |
| jonwil | 3 control panel options actually, all of which default to off | 17:57 |
| jonwil | one turns on cbsms display | 17:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1131162&postcount=5429 | 17:57 |
| jonwil | one turns on logging for cell broadcast SMS related stuff (e.g. changes of name, changes of cell tower ID, other related things) | 17:58 |
| jonwil | and the last one turns on logging for operator name stuff (as opposed to cell tower name stuff) | 17:59 |
| jonwil | all 3 default to off | 17:59 |
| jonwil | http://www.cncmods.net/files/libconnui-dev-0.1.zip and http://www.cncmods.net/files/operator-name-cbs-widget-0.1.zip are the relevant source packages | 18:00 |
| jonwil | Other than the fact that its currently using dpkg-divert to divert the old file before the new one is installed, it should be good for CSSU | 18:01 |
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| jonwil | MohammadAG, let me know if there is anything I need to do before those can go into CSSU | 18:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | find testers | 18:03 |
| MohammadAG | just fixing my mistakes | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | provide a mini-howto to install (preferably from a .deb or sth, not from source) | 18:04 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, or anyone | 18:04 |
| MohammadAG | poke mods to close this please http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67905&goto=newpost | 18:04 |
| MohammadAG | the thread went out of control | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | hehehehehehehe | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | /query chem1st | 18:04 |
| jonwil | I have attempted to find testers for my applet but so far no-one seems interested in testing it | 18:05 |
| MohammadAG | I'd test it but there's no SIM in my N900 | 18:08 |
| MohammadAG | actually there's no full size SIM with me | 18:08 |
| Sicelo | we are, but we don't have access to as many networks as u need. as for me, only wifi network i have access to is mine | 18:08 |
| Sicelo | :/ oh, the cbs one.. | 18:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | jonwil: provide a howto to install the plg, and you'll find testers | 18:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | pkg* | 18:09 |
| jonwil | I already posted a .deb file many times | 18:09 |
| jonwil | many versions | 18:09 |
| MohammadAG | jonwil, post on tmo | 18:10 |
| MohammadAG | with [Testers needed] | 18:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, exactly. many versions, and no howto | 18:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | listen to MohammadAG | 18:10 |
| jonwil | many of my requests for help/testers posted to TMO seem to have been ignored :( | 18:11 |
| jonwil | but yeah I will build a new .deb file and post to tmo asking for testers | 18:11 |
| MohammadAG | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=824298#post824298 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=60788 are examples | 18:11 |
| MohammadAG | posts != threads | 18:11 |
| MohammadAG | start a new thread | 18:11 |
| jonwil | no, these were threads | 18:11 |
| MohammadAG | Update the thread and give me a link | 18:12 |
| MohammadAG | twitter gives results tbh | 18:12 |
| jonwil | will be making a new thread, any previous cbsms threads are too old and/or contain useless info | 18:12 |
| jonwil | just need to build new deb packages :) | 18:13 |
| MohammadAG | k :) | 18:13 |
| MohammadAG | do you need a repository on gitorious to develop on? | 18:14 |
| Raimu | jonwil: I could test that, I think, for example. | 18:15 |
| Raimu | Just give me clear and concise parameters on what to do, see and evaluate. | 18:15 |
| jonwil | the other problem with testing is that most people arent connected to cell networks that send cell broadcast SMS messages over ch50 | 18:16 |
| jonwil | and lots of people wont even know if their network supports it or not | 18:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer | most people need to switch to 2G, as 3G seems has no CBSMS | 18:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | all that needs to go to your howto | 18:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | as the pkg is tested to a degree where we can assume it "works", we can say "if there'S nothing showing up, then there's simply nothing to show. Consider 2G/3G selection in settings->phone, 3G doesn't support this. Even your particular 2G might not support this. That's not a bug in this app" | 18:33 |
| jonwil | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1131183#post1131183 | 18:34 |
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| MohammadAG | sigh, told him to add [Testers needed] at the start | 18:48 |
| MohammadAG | oh well | 18:48 |
| Sicelo | mine does send on ch50.. used to also send on 52, dunno if that still applies | 18:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok, once we get confirmation that nothing goes awry with that replacement applet, we can include a patched version of libsms.so and the applet itself to T | 19:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | let's agree on the usual 5 testers, 1 week? | 19:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | (btw I'm using a patched lib on my T since dunno 4 months(?) now, no issues at all) | 19:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | but the suspect for giving us headache is the hildon component, as usual | 19:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | i.e. the applet replacement | 19:25 |
| Raimu | Great, hildon-appman thinks jonwil's widget is "Broken but updateable" | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOL | 19:26 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: ping | 19:26 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 19:26 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: ping | 19:26 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, if you say a git repo isn't pushed I'll push my foot up your ass | 19:26 |
| MohammadAG | :p | 19:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | k, off for checking HAM-updates for some new stuff :-D | 19:27 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: ping | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: you said that before :-D | 19:29 |
| MohammadAG | twice | 19:29 |
| merlin1991 | I killed my quasselcore by restarting the db server behind it :D | 19:29 |
| MohammadAG | <MohammadAG> merlin1991, if you say a git repo isn't pushed I'll push my foot up your ass | 19:29 |
| MohammadAG | <MohammadAG> :p | 19:29 |
| MohammadAG | * merlin1991 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | 19:29 |
| merlin1991 | so I didn't get any replies :D | 19:29 |
| merlin1991 | nah I was rather thinking why http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1131168#post1131168 the | 19:30 |
| merlin1991 | Official changelog (maintained by merlin1991): is empty? :D | 19:30 |
| merlin1991 | I didn't even check git repos yet ;) | 19:30 |
| MohammadAG | fucking clipboard | 19:31 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, fixed, sue me | 19:32 |
| MohammadAG | k, need windows for itunes :/ | 19:33 |
| MohammadAG | brb | 19:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | BUG: HAM CSSU-T update missing "Details" tab | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd expect to find a copy of changelog under "Details" | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | funny detail: HAM is braindead, it didn't find the update until I edited catalogs which obviously triggered a *decent* apt-get update | 19:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | clicking on "updates" in HAM didn't yield anything | 19:42 |
| Lava_Croft | updates -> menu - refresh didnt work? | 19:47 |
| Raimu | DocScrutinizer, noticed that too. | 19:50 |
| MohammadAG | Changelog never showed in ham | 19:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Lava_Croft: never realized that, lemme look for it | 19:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: sure there's no automatic changelog display in HAM, but there's a X-Details or whatever section | 19:54 |
| Lava_Croft | DocScrutinizer: its broken, so i always do menu->refresh | 19:54 |
| Lava_Croft | that does work right away | 19:54 |
| MohammadAG | I'm aware of that but we never used it | 19:54 |
| MohammadAG | Tbh, that should be patched to show changelog | 19:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Description: | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | starhash-enabler - Enables the *xx# Service Codes in dialer. According 3GPP TS22.030 | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | Changes: | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | starhash-enabler (0.2) fremantle; urgency=low | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | . | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | * description cleanup, change pretty name to "*# Starhash Enabler". | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | starhash-enabler_0.2_armel.changes | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd suggest CSSU (MP?) should use the "Changes:" section to place changelog there | 20:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | keep in mind: HAM shows "Description:" section on first install, but shows "Changes:" section *only* (not "Description:" plus "Changes:") on updates | 20:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | I seem to recall I didn't edit starhash-enabler_0.2_armel.changes file back when, but I'm sure you all know what to do to achieve changelog showing up there. Just c&p the changelog to <whatever_file> prior to build, under that X-Changes (or whatever) tag | 20:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | while I think about it - CSSU even missing "Description:" obviously | 20:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | so please fix both | 20:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah btw: update went smooth | 20:09 |
| Raimu | Likewise. | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | not using blacklists or modest or anything, so I can't comment on the success regarding fixing the problems | 20:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | what I could possibly do though is checking the modest.launch file for thumby instructions | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | objdump -d /usr/bin/modest.launch|grep illega -> null \o/ | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: thanks!! :-D | 20:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: how's about the "Changes:" and "Description:" sections in S ? are they populated? | 21:14 |
| merlin1991 | description should be | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | fine | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 21:14 |
| merlin1991 | changes isn't yet since we don't have a changing release yet :D | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | chnges only needed for next release :-D | 21:15 |
| merlin1991 | I'll fill it in on the first upgrade for S :) | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-) | 21:15 |
| merlin1991 | tbh T doesn't need that field that badly with T you're bound to check wiki check yourslef, reflash in case of exploding phones, ... anyway | 21:15 |
| merlin1991 | T has a huge warning sayings it's your fault now die in hell :D | 21:16 |
| merlin1991 | I'm currently going over bugs | 21:16 |
| merlin1991 | closing ones that should be resolved fixed since 7.9 | 21:17 |
| merlin1991 | lol | 21:17 |
| merlin1991 | 7.9 aka 16.5 release | 21:17 |
| merlin1991 | hm how does on list all bugs for a component on that bugtracker? | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | you alt-click-highlight the according selections in search page | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | then yu probably want to store that search to your preferences | 21:20 |
| merlin1991 | I hoped there'd be an easier way | 21:20 |
| merlin1991 | ie show all bugs of this | 21:20 |
| merlin1991 | hm we need to get translation strings for osso-pdf-viewer | 21:21 |
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| merlin1991 | I've got the feeling nobody went over the buglist in a long time | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | that *might* be about right | 21:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | bugs against CSSU are special anyway, as we almost always have to propagate them "upstream" | 21:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | where "upstream" is a rather fuzzy term | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | given the fact that most of CSSU is a random cherrypick of patches against all sorts of components not exactly hosted at CSSU | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, probably not different to what arbitrary distro maintainers face every day | 21:55 |
| merlin1991 | hehe | 21:59 |
| merlin1991 | yeah | 21:59 |
| merlin1991 | who did the osso-pdf-viewer patches? | 21:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, another pkg I wonder if it really belongs to CSSU-core or rather CSSU-selected-auxiliary-apps | 22:01 |
| merlin1991 | oh it does belong to core | 22:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | is there anything blocking a osso-pdf-viewer pkg in extras? | 22:02 |
| merlin1991 | it's just bugfixes in there | 22:02 |
| merlin1991 | and those fixes are against the stock open source viewer | 22:03 |
| merlin1991 | so yes this is cssu material | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | except probably that osso-pdf-viewer is tied to mp-fremantle-pe | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | pr | 22:03 |
| merlin1991 | yep it's tied to pr and we're not replacing anything but rather fixing bugs on it | 22:04 |
| merlin1991 | so yep it is cssu material | 22:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | k | 22:04 |
| merlin1991 | just trying to narrow down *who* actually worked on it | 22:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | nfc | 22:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | might nicocam depend on stock camera kernel drivers? | 22:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | and mess with the fcam drivers? | 22:32 |
| merlin1991 | nicocam afaik depends on no drivers | 22:42 |
| * merlin1991 checks to be sure | 22:43 | |
| merlin1991 | from the source it doesn't though I can't tell what ${shlibs:Depends} and ${misc:Depends} resolves to since I don't have testing installed | 22:44 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: ping | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | pebcak | 22:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | PK issue | 22:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | closed invalid | 22:56 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: I wonder what todo with https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12203 | 22:59 |
| povbot | Bug 12203: CSSU forces immature camera-ui replacement on user | 22:59 |
| merlin1991 | stable is going have it as extra installation when the current ui is tested via testing, and the point of testing is to have users test the new stuff non guine-pigs can always go stable | 23:00 |
| merlin1991 | is that a "fixed" ? | 23:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 23:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | S ptional is a FIXED | 23:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | optional* | 23:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | however I'd like to see a simple switcher option in settings panel or somewhere, that just adjusts the symlink in /usr/bin or where ever it lives, and thus allows selection of default cam-ui for next boot in a blink of the eye | 23:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd like to see this in T, before it goes to S | 23:08 |
| merlin1991 | we can't deploy that in T :/ | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | why not? | 23:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | because we got no stock cam-ui anymore? | 23:10 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 23:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think that'S a minor problem | 23:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | I learnt we can get it back via apt-get | 23:11 |
| merlin1991 | not if we expect our repo to be selfcontaining | 23:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | so step-1: move nicocam outa the way (by renaming it so it doesn't have same pkg name like stock anymore) | 23:12 |
| merlin1991 | i.e. remember all those upgrades to T1 where the certman applet failed? | 23:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | it still can work via -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 160232 2011-11-29 21:14 /usr/bin/camera-ui | 23:12 |
| merlin1991 | because the nokia ssu repo was acting up | 23:12 |
| merlin1991 | (and cerman wasn't in our repo due to mistake by x-fade) | 23:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | step-2: user(!) does an apt-get install for the stock camera-ui | 23:13 |
| merlin1991 | we have to expect the same kind of problems for your step 2 | 23:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | step-3: switcher applet/plugin detects the situation and acts accordingly | 23:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | where do you see problems in user doing an apt-get install camera-ui=123.456.78 | 23:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | except the usual "waaah I can't find what <ENTER> means" | 23:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro !!! | 23:16 |
| merlin1991 | the acutal waaaah nokia ssu repo is not answering stuff we had when we introduced Tmaemo1 | 23:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | this was a HAM update that depended on the repo | 23:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | apt-get on cmdline is different | 23:17 |
| merlin1991 | it wasn't hams problem though | 23:17 |
| merlin1991 | it was the pure fact that for some people the nokia repo didn't work | 23:17 |
| merlin1991 | apt-get wasn't working for them either | 23:17 |
| merlin1991 | and it worked just fine for other people with ham because nokia ssu worked for them | 23:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | when users start "WAAAH apt-get install foobar gives me 404" we answer "SO WHAT?!" | 23:18 |
| merlin1991 | yea that could be a "solution" xD | 23:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | nota bene this apt-get is in no way mandatory for CSSU to work | 23:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's ONLY needed to make camui-switcher offer alternatives | 23:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | apt-get install fcam and you get 3 alternatives | 23:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | apt-get install blessn900 -> 4 | 23:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | (given those could even act as default camui) | 23:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | after all it's the Testing branch | 23:21 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 23:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | on Stable we luckily still have the stock camui | 23:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | and I insist in keeping it whenever we deploy nicocam for S | 23:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | so we don't run into same trouble on Stable | 23:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | once we got both binaries on S, it's a silly simple task to do the switching for default | 23:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | for T the main problem indeed is to get stock camui back | 23:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | but not really a problem as long as T and the switcher in T will work even when it's not available | 23:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | I lost you? | 23:25 |
| merlin1991 | nope | 23:29 |
| merlin1991 | but I was staring at bugreports again trying to make sense of them :D | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | hehe, shall I dhoot a few for you ? After all I may now ;-D | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | shoot* | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you got a quick one, I have another 4 minutes to triage it with you | 23:36 |
| merlin1991 | tbh I just closed stuff that is fixed by now | 23:36 |
| merlin1991 | and wrote down things where I could contact people in here to ask :) | 23:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | good :-) | 23:37 |
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| amiconn | ABC can act as default camui, no idea whether blessn900 can | 23:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | good, so we got at least 3 | 23:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | whatever ABC is | 23:43 |
| * DocScrutinizer does a quick packet search for "camera" before heading out for shower | 23:44 | |
| DocScrutinizer | UGH | 23:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | osso-camera-ui-l10n-* ~20, libgdigicam-gst-* and gstreamer0.10-plugins* 8, then there's camera-firmware camera-l10n-zhhk camera-ui cl-launcher fcamera --- ETX | 23:47 |
| merlin1991 | hehe | 23:47 |
| merlin1991 | yeah when searching for packages I hate all the l10n-* packages, but they do make sense from a developer point of view | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | no blessn900 (no surprise, it's closed proprietary), no ABC... | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | no nicocam :-S | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | FFS | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.org/packages/search/?org_maemo_packages_search[1][property]=name&org_maemo_packages_search[1][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[1][value]=camera&org_maemo_packages_search[2][property]=title&org_maemo_packages_search[2][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[2][value]=same | 23:50 |
| merlin1991 | hehe | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | meh, I hate those URLs | 23:50 |
| merlin1991 | woulld you prefer it ove POST, so you can't link to it at all? | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | not really ;-P | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | the funny bit though: the whole screen has a single searchtext field | 23:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | and c'mon: [property]=name&org_maemo_packages_search[1][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[1]... | 23:52 |
| merlin1991 | I'm not saying that the maemo.org implementation is genious or as good as possible ;) | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd most probably code that serverside, and pass the really needed values via ?search=camera | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | I mean, this URL *shouts* "rape me, hack me, deface my site" | 23:54 |
| merlin1991 | hehe | 23:55 |
| merlin1991 | but we're not facebook or any other fancy company we're a bunch of coders who know stuff, we know what we do ;) | 23:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | SQL injecton for babies | 23:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | and don't tell me the parameters are fully parsed and validated serverside | 23:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd not be surprised if I could make the box download warez for me, with a slightly changed URL | 23:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | no matter it's probably SPARGL and not SQL | 23:58 |
| merlin1991 | whatever it is the urls suck ass, I can agree on that :D | 23:59 |
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