IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Sunday, 2011-09-11

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DocScrutinizerhihi, I'd think twice before disclosing a coredump of my mailer13:10
DocScrutinizerI'd also not publish an strace of my browser crashing on me doing internet banking ;-)13:11
DocScrutinizerand moo, peaceful 9-11 to everybody13:13
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freemangordonSc0rpius ping13:23
freemangordonmodest crash backtrace here http://pastebin.com/1isdM8D7 , expires in 1 day13:24
freemangordonarcean ping13:26
arceanfreemangordon: hey13:26
freemangordongood morning :D13:26
arceanmorning :)13:27
freemangordonsaw your MR for qt, not sure it will work, as I already told you phone-ui work in exactly the same way, i.e. it sets REQUEST flag only13:27
arceani know13:28
arceanit works perfect13:28
freemangordonwhen phone-ui app is locked in portrait ony13:28
arceantly13:28
freemangordonhm13:28
arceanfreemangordon: build the latest hd from my git13:28
arceanand enable orientation lock13:28
freemangordonok, will try13:29
arceanevery qt-based app will rotate to portrait despite enabled orientation lock13:29
freemangordonYou mean those with Qt::WA_Maemo5AutoOrientation flag set?13:31
arceanyes13:31
arceanlike calculator or filebox13:31
freemangordonWhat about if only Qt::WA_Maemo5PortraitOrientation is set, will the stay in portrait?13:32
arceanyes, will be locked in portrait13:33
freemangordongreat, will test that later13:34
arceanok, thanks;)13:34
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RST38hSPBBrainEvolution still crashes when started with CSSU installed14:21
freemangordonRST38h what is this, is it in repos?14:24
psycho_oreosits like a game, and I think its in the repos14:28
psycho_oreoserr under Ovi14:28
psycho_oreosI have SPBBrainEvolution and I don't have this issue14:28
freemangordonRST38h what is your CSSU version?14:30
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freemangordonSc0rpius ping15:12
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freemangordonarcean_, rotation does not work for QT apps16:19
arcean_freemangordon: with orientation lock enabled?16:19
freemangordonyep16:20
freemangordonor forcerotation disabled16:20
arcean_with the latest hd from my git repo?16:20
freemangordonyep16:21
freemangordononly phone app rotates16:21
arcean_wait16:21
arcean_so you are saying that Qt apps doesn't rotate anymore with disabled orientation lock?16:22
freemangordonno, what i am saying is that applications that should auto-rotate stay in landskape wit orientation lick enabled16:22
freemangordonor wit forcerotation=016:22
freemangordonwith*16:22
arcean_ahh, ok16:22
arcean_so it's a good thing, isn't it?16:23
freemangordonno16:23
freemangordonit is not, because those applications want to rotate16:23
freemangordoncalculator for example16:23
arcean_yes, but with orientation lock enabled it should stay in landscape16:24
freemangordonwhy is that16:24
freemangordonfollowing that logic phone-ui shoulkd stay in portrait too16:25
freemangordonsorry mean landscape16:25
arcean_no16:25
freemangordonwhy?16:25
freemangordonwhat is the difference16:25
arcean_actually with those all patches for hd and qt16:25
arcean_all windows with _request_ flag are allowe to switch to portrait16:25
freemangordonthat is great, but what about those with _support flag16:26
arcean_they're locked to landscape16:26
freemangordonwhy we lock them to landscape?16:26
arcean_because that's the purpose of the orientation lock16:26
freemangordonit is up to application developer to decide, why we are overriding him?16:26
arcean_at least that's the way I understand it16:26
freemangordonnot sure about that16:27
arcean_i'm talking about orientation lock applet16:27
arcean_in statusbar16:27
freemangordonyep, I know16:27
freemangordonut what about forcerotation=016:27
freemangordon*but16:27
arcean_so, if an app tells us that it supports both modes16:27
arcean_both modes == support flag16:27
freemangordonit behaves in the same way as if orientation is locked via applet16:28
arcean_we can lock it to landscape16:28
arcean_no, some apps will still rotate - calculator, settings, etc16:28
freemangordonbut they don't16:29
arcean_why?16:29
arcean_settings window has support flag, so it rotates to portrait without forcerotation16:29
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freemangordonbut calculator stays in landscape16:30
arcean_the new one?16:31
freemangordonyep16:31
arcean_i've forcerotation disabled and it rotates to portrait16:31
freemangordonhm, strange16:31
freemangordonare you sure you have pushed all the qt changes?16:32
arcean_yes, something about 6 lines have been changed16:33
freemangordonyes, i have those16:34
freemangordonpulled16:34
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arcean_freemangordon: my approach it to lock to landscape all windows without _request_ flag when orientation lock is enabled16:34
freemangordonbut it is disabled16:35
freemangordonand calculator does not rotate16:35
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arcean_did you killall'd hd after installation?16:35
freemangordonhere calculator rotataes only when forcerotation == 116:36
freemangordonand rebooted several times16:36
freemangordonwill do it again16:36
freemangordonnope, still the same16:38
freemangordoncalculator stays in lanscape, so are all qt/qml apps16:38
arcean_ok16:39
arcean_anyway thanks, will investigate it ;)16:39
freemangordonok, thanks16:39
freemangordonarcean_, recently you told me that calendar looks messed up in task navigator16:40
freemangordonwhen settings dialog is opened16:40
freemangordonis it still valid?16:40
arcean_sec, checking16:40
MohammadAGI think Qt's REQUEST flag isn't there because of a mistake16:41
MohammadAGafaik it was a bug in 4.5.2 or something16:41
arcean_freemangordon: nope, it's ok now16:43
freemangordongood16:43
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freemangordonanyone knows Sc0rpius' nick on TMO?17:09
MohammadAGnikael or something afaik17:12
MohammadAGnaikel *17:12
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PeterParkI  just installed the 2.4-1 from testing.however editor does not startup anymore because of FATAL Error.. what can I do?17:47
PeterParknevermind I fixed it by copying the transition.ini.default to transition.ini17:57
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freemangordonSc0rpius ping18:53
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Sc0rpiusfreemangordon, I got your email21:07
Sc0rpiusI'll check it out later today21:08
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freemangordongreat, hope you will find the bug. BTW it is provoked by quickly pressing all available modest buttons (send & receive + opening the message + going back and forward between messages) while reconnecting wifi and app manager is updating on background. i.e. under heavy system load.21:11
freemangordonSc0rpius ^21:11
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Sc0rpiusheh21:15
Sc0rpiusI think I have hit that bug one or twice21:15
Sc0rpiusI just compiled your tinymail patch and I'll try that too21:17
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amiconnTalking about modest - is there any chance to fix sent mail handling with imap?21:31
amiconnI.e. put sent mails into the imap 'sent' folder, not the local one?21:31
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Sc0rpiusthat's like a major change of the original Modest21:36
Sc0rpiuswe basically just modify bugs21:36
Sc0rpiusI mean fix bugs21:36
Sc0rpiusand that also bothers me.21:37
Sc0rpius:(21:37
amiconnWhy do you think it would be a major change?21:37
Sc0rpiuswell first you have to create the options for "special folders"21:38
Sc0rpiusand implement all the GUI for that so you can select which one is your sent folder in your IMAPs accounts21:38
Sc0rpiusthen in the sending procedure that's totally different we would have to integrate somehow a check to see if the email account your using is an IMAP one21:39
Sc0rpiusthen create a thread to move that sent mail to the Sent Folder in background21:39
Sc0rpiusit can be done, but I guess it'll take a while21:40
Sc0rpiuswe have to make Modest stable enough first21:40
amiconnWhy select?21:40
amiconnIMAP -> use 'sent' folder on server, otherwise local one21:41
amiconnNo ui change necessary21:41
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Sc0rpiuswhich one is the Sent folder?21:42
Sc0rpiusmine is "Elementos enviados"21:42
Sc0rpiusyours is "Sent"21:42
Sc0rpiusMicrosoft ones are "Sent Items"21:42
Sc0rpiusand anyone can select any folder for that.  There's no convention for it21:43
amiconnIs your folder actually called like that, or does the client just show a localized name for it?21:43
Sc0rpiusModest can't figure out which of your folders is the one that you use for sent items.21:43
Sc0rpiusmy folder is actually called "Elementos enviados"21:43
amiconnhmm21:44
Sc0rpiusthe client has to know a-priori which folder you use to store your sent mails21:44
Sc0rpiusall clients must do that21:44
amiconnMy Thunderbird shows the localized name ("Gesendet"), but on the server it's called 'sent'21:44
Sc0rpiusalso depends on the server21:45
Sc0rpiusbut if it's a standard server, you can use any folder21:45
Sc0rpiusif it's Gmail, it has to be [Gmail]/Sent Mail21:45
amiconnI know you can configure it - but somehow modest manages to recognize the inbox21:45
Sc0rpiusInbox are standards21:45
Sc0rpiusstoring sent items in a sent folder in IMAPs accounts is something that has to do the client, it's not something standard21:48
Sc0rpiusthe client has to create a copy of the sent mail and put it in the sent folder21:48
freemangordonSc0rpius , I got the idea for my patch to tinymail from here http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/commit/camel?id=eb9eb39c9869817afca6b4dc052c21492932d2f9 , maybe it is good idea to look through all patches there to see if something could help.21:48
Sc0rpiushmm21:48
freemangordonThere were more fixes, maybe something valuable could be found. Just an idea.21:49
amiconn"Note enough power to install cssu". Eh, what? Batteriy is at ~50%..21:50
amiconnThe anoying part is that if you install with the charger connected, reboot doesn't work properly21:51
Sc0rpiusyou should install it with the charger connected.21:52
Sc0rpiusand why doesn't reboot work for you with the charger connected?21:53
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amiconnIt just hangs21:53
Sc0rpiusthat's very weird.21:53
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* amiconn is just installing 16.8 - let's see whether it will hang again21:54
MohammadAGJust a note, the certificates installation takes a while, be patient21:55
amiconnHmm, weird. This time the reboot worked...21:56
Sc0rpius:/22:01
amiconnMeh. The slowness named 'ham' is annoying22:02
Stskeepsshould be bacon instead22:05
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Sc0rpiusvfd23:53
Sc0rpiusfreemangordon, that backtrace you sent is an Illegal Instruction crash sending a signal to a Tinymail Folder Observer23:54
Sc0rpiusand that's very weird, the tinymail you're using was compiled by yourself?23:54
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freemangordon_yep23:54
freemangordon_it is from git clone23:54
freemangordon_CSSU git23:55
Sc0rpiusI have never had an illegal instruction, that's like when the compiler thinks the CPU has a certain subset of instructions that it doesn't, or things like that23:57
Sc0rpiusor if the PC (program counter) jumps to a random address in memory somehow23:57
freemangordon_it is the second i think23:59

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