IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Wednesday, 2011-03-09

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Sc0rpiusI really HATE that I can't get more than 30KB/sec in an apt-get update04:48
Sc0rpiusand it takes YEARS to update04:48
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macmaNis anyone using bt headset with their phone here12:50
macmaNmy annoyance is when you switch bt headset on first, then enable bt on phone, phone doesnt know to connect to headset and headset doesnt know to connect to phone12:51
macmaNi think id like the phone to always try to connect to a certain assigned "primary headset" when bt is switched on12:51
macmaNthoughts?12:51
Lava_CroftMohammadAG: will that patch for osso-xterm be applied to cssu?13:08
KaptenenmacmaN: i do, i have that problem sometimes13:11
macmaNyep13:27
macmaNwhat to do, is there a .sh thats run when bt switches on?13:27
macmaNor some dbus magic maybe?13:28
BCMMLava_Croft: do you mean the one that fixes ^M?13:32
BCMMLava_Croft: pretty sure that's in there already13:32
Lava_CroftBCMM: no i dont13:34
BCMMoh, sorry13:34
Lava_Croft:)13:34
BCMMout of interest, what patch?13:34
Lava_Croft1317 < Lava_Croft> http://timang.us/osso-xterm-palette-edit.diff13:34
BCMMoh, the colour fix one13:34
Lava_CroftTimbo made it due to being fed up with it13:34
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macmaNoh oh what13:57
macmaNwhat M fix13:57
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BCMMmacmaN: the enter key used to screw up in vim and screen and others14:23
BCMMespecially less14:23
macmaNhmm ok i havent had a moment yet to find out how to modify keymaps to make enter key over x11vnc equal M14:24
macmaNi thought maybe this is related somehow14:24
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BCMMno, it was a bug in xterm, not xorg, iirc14:26
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macmaNi wonder if there is some effective way to make N900 with a faster cpu14:28
macmaNthat would be fully current firmware compatible14:28
macmaNis N950 going to be that?14:29
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andre__macmaN, see the N950 hardware specs ;-)14:49
TronicWhat, where?14:49
TronicI guess at the very least a new image would be required because supposedly a new design would have a quite different storage solution (more fast flash).14:51
Lava_Croftandre__: where are the N950's hardware specifications?14:53
andre__Lava_Croft, they are not available of course.14:54
andre__but for people asking "is N950 going to be that?" it's the appropriate answer I'd say...14:55
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BCMM_is the 950 even a real thing?15:04
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ZogGBCMM_ there are two of you15:46
ZogGi be DocScrutinizer missed me15:46
BCMM_ZogG: "my other client is an n900"15:50
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merlin1991MohammadAG, ping17:40
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merlin1991MohammadAG, ping19:00
MohammadAGpong19:01
merlin1991finally :D19:01
merlin1991did DocScrutinizer tell you about his fun with installing cssu and mhd?19:01
MohammadAGno :P19:01
MohammadAGwhy would he install mhd anyway...19:02
MohammadAGit's built in19:02
merlin1991he had mhd before19:02
merlin1991then wanted to move to cssu19:02
MohammadAGwell, go on19:02
merlin1991so we had great fun getting his system running19:02
DocScrutinizerohyeah19:02
merlin1991the main problem was, that cssu did install partly19:03
merlin1991wich means everything but the hildon-desktop did install19:03
merlin1991even the metapackage19:03
merlin1991wich ofc depends on the newest cssu h-d19:03
merlin1991to install the newer h-d he had to get rid of m-h-d19:03
MohammadAGyeah19:03
MohammadAGmhd replaces the hildon-desktop binary19:04
DocScrutinizerwhich didn't exactly work19:04
MohammadAGo_O19:04
merlin1991but for some reason apt-get remove m-h-d was in the logic to "install" original h-d19:04
MohammadAGbootloop?19:04
merlin1991wich ofc conflicted with the metapackage depend19:04
merlin1991no bootloop19:04
MohammadAGdpkg -r19:04
merlin1991but updateloop :D19:04
MohammadAGdpkg -r modified-hildon-desktop19:05
merlin1991that was the fix in the end19:05
MohammadAGapt-get --reinstall install hildon-desktop :)19:05
MohammadAGapt does some weird shit sometimes19:05
merlin1991well we wen't a bit more odd and did apt-rm community-pr apt-rm m-h-d apt-get h-d19:05
merlin1991because I wasn't sure about shortcutting to dpkg19:05
DocScrutinizeractually I removed mp-cssu and the removed mhd which kicked off all the rest pretty much automatically19:05
MohammadAGthen installed it back?19:06
merlin1991yep19:06
merlin1991sorry last step was apt-get cssu-pr not h-d19:06
MohammadAGNext update will probably be tonight19:06
merlin1991we ended up what dpkg -r && apt-get --reinstall would have done19:06
MohammadAGSc0rpius, if you want tree view mode in send a request :P19:07
DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: anyway cssu-update shouldn't fail in such a weird way19:07
merlin1991but it shows obvious that m-h-d is *evil* when installing cssu19:07
merlin1991and how the hell could the cssu-pr even get installed when one of it's depends failed?19:07
MohammadAGOrientation lock, zoom in/out in hildon-desktop and all apps with half-working panning, and zoom on press is depressed when the screen's depressed19:07
Sc0rpiusyeah but19:07
MohammadAGno19:07
MohammadAGthat's m-h-d's hook19:08
Sc0rpiusI'm testing right now the issue19:08
Sc0rpiusthat every account is blue no matter if there are new messages or not19:08
MohammadAGI think it has a dpkg hook, can't remember what those are called19:08
Sc0rpiusI supposedly "fixed" it, I'm testing it19:08
MohammadAGSc0rpius, I thought that was intended o_O19:08
merlin1991so whatabout adding conflict: m-h-d to cssu?19:08
Sc0rpiusit was intended yeah (in the code)19:08
merlin1991because you have to apt-get remove m-h-d before installing cssu to get it running properly19:09
Sc0rpiusbut I think it's better if it's blue just when there are new messages :)19:09
Sc0rpiuslike the account window in the stock Modest19:09
MohammadAGConflict:'s ignored by HAM19:09
DocScrutinizermerlin1991: nb that's what I think I did, prior to installing mp-fremantle-generic-pr19:10
merlin1991you didn't19:10
merlin1991you installed hildon-desktop19:10
DocScrutinizeraah right19:10
merlin1991but didn't remove the modfied package19:10
merlin19912 different shoes :)19:10
DocScrutinizeryep19:10
DocScrutinizerI thought tey conflict and mhd uninstalls automatically19:10
merlin1991if m-h-d would have been done properly it should have been the way you think19:11
merlin1991but nope19:11
merlin1991:D19:11
MohammadAGNokia-N900:~# cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/fmtx-faker.triggers19:11
MohammadAGinterest /usr/sbin/fmtxd19:11
MohammadAGinterest /usr/bin/mediaplayer.launch19:11
MohammadAGinterest /usr/bin/controlpanel.launch19:11
MohammadAGIf modified-hildon-desktop has a .triggers file, then whenever those files are updated, something's done19:11
DocScrutinizerwhat's <something>?19:12
merlin1991well MohammadAG if ham ignores conflict we should at least put a huge UNINSTALL M-H-D warning somewhere19:14
merlin1991or actually add that to the enable19:14
merlin1991checking for existence of m-h-d and aborting with a warning19:14
merlin1991*enabler*19:14
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, depends on the package19:16
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MohammadAGcat the postinst to find out19:16
MohammadAGcase "$1" in19:16
MohammadAG    configure|triggered)19:16
MohammadAGupdate-sudoers || true19:16
MohammadAG/usr/bin/fmtx-faker-tool --patch || true19:16
MohammadAGso find triggered there, and see what happens19:16
DocScrutinizerwhich package?19:17
DocScrutinizerbasename of *.triggers file?19:17
MohammadAGyeah19:17
DocScrutinizermhm19:17
MohammadAGyes I use fmtx-faker, US region frequencies suck :p19:18
merlin1991actually I checked the postinst of m-h-d and it only had a remove part19:18
MohammadAGo_o19:20
MohammadAGpastebin it19:20
DocScrutinizerpostinst or postrm?19:20
MohammadAGpostinst19:21
DocScrutinizera remove part in postinst, now that sounds weird, unless it's rm HD in MHD19:22
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merlin1991MohammadAG, http://pastie.org/165220619:26
merlin1991ah I was thinking about postrm19:27
merlin1991where it placed the binary back19:27
DocScrutinizerWTF is THAT??19:29
DocScrutinizergrep usr/bin/hildon-desktop.launch /var/lib/dpkg/info/hildon-desktop.md5sums > /19:29
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MohammadAGgetting the original MD5sum for hildon-desktop19:31
DocScrutinizermeh, nevermind19:31
DocScrutinizermissed the tmp/mhd.a1 part19:31
DocScrutinizerbanner ads in pastie.org are a PITA19:32
DocScrutinizerHAM not attending conflicts sounds kinda strange to me19:36
MohammadAGit was a problem we hit when we were planning the CSSU19:38
DocScrutinizerwe should implement a check for all dependencies met, in postinstall of cssu-update19:38
MohammadAGwhich is why the icon in the menu needs dpkg dead to replace a package19:38
MohammadAGConflicts: Replaces: and Provides: aren't checked19:38
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DocScrutinizerpffffff whatacrap19:39
MohammadAGwhile we could fix those in the CSSU, what's the use, you wouldn't have the updated HAM before installing the CSSU19:41
DocScrutinizeranyway cssu-update did some noisy things that weren't really informative, but ended without any warning or even error, and stayed in updates list of ham. So Joe Luser can rerun it which will yield same result, but can't deinstall or otherwise recover19:42
MohammadAGif there was an error it'd tell you19:42
MohammadAGread the script, it was fun to code :p19:42
DocScrutinizerthere evidently was: HD wasn't installable with cssu-enabler19:43
MohammadAGHD isn't installed in that script19:43
MohammadAGnothing is, just a dumb metapackage19:43
DocScrutinizercssu-update had HD in its list of installable files still19:44
MohammadAG(which doesn't depend on anything, and has a version number of 0)19:44
MohammadAGhttp://gitorious.org/community-ssu/community-ssu-enabler/blobs/master/install-community-ssu19:45
DocScrutinizerI mean, when I install a pkg in HAM, and it ends normally then it shouldn't still sit in "updates" and get called another time when I click "update all"19:45
MohammadAGthat's HAM's fault, not the script :(19:46
DocScrutinizeractually I installed cssu-update 3 times, and it 3 times booted my device and flashed my kernel or whatnot19:46
MohammadAGnah, kernel isn't updated in the CSSU19:46
DocScrutinizerand sat there unchanged, with "install: HD"19:47
DocScrutinizerso what is NOLO doing when it boots and tells me "Updating firmware. Do NOT interrupt! ..."19:47
merlin1991yeah ham silently failed the h-d install19:48
DocScrutinizerso cssu-update postinstall need at very least a check for that19:48
merlin1991MohammadAG, you said something about a new version earlier, what is it going to include?19:55
MohammadAG<DocScrutinizer> so what is NOLO doing when it boots and tells me "Updating firmware. Do NOT interrupt! ..."19:56
MohammadAGThat's HAM doing that...19:56
MohammadAGask lcuk, he might know (it's part of ham-rescue.sh I think)19:57
MohammadAGAnd that's not NOLO, it's preinit or somewhere after NOLO19:57
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merlin1991hm either MohammadAG is damn good at missing highlighst on his screen, or his irc client doesn't highlight if there's a , at the end of the nick20:01
MohammadAGyou're right about the first part :P20:02
MohammadAGsorry, replying to this, email and packaging the orientation lock applet20:02
MohammadAG<MohammadAG> Orientation lock, zoom in/out in hildon-desktop and all apps with half-working panning, and zoom on press is depressed when the screen's depressed20:03
merlin1991awesome .)20:03
* merlin1991 needs to ckeck github20:03
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merlin1991err gitorious20:04
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MohammadAGhttp://gitorious.org/community-ssu/status-area-orientationlock-applet pushed20:06
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MohammadAGSc0rpius, you probably know GObject more than I do, should I be unreffering anything here http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/status-area-orientationlock-applet/blobs/master/src/lib-orientation-lock-status-menu-widget.c ?20:07
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* Sc0rpius checks20:21
MohammadAGhmm, gconf_client maybe20:22
Sc0rpiushttp://library.gnome.org/devel/gconf/stable/gconf-gconf-client.html#gconf-client-get-default20:24
Sc0rpiusthe only one that makes me doubt is gconf_client_get_default20:25
Sc0rpiuseverything else looks right20:25
MohammadAGnah, that's right20:26
MohammadAGshould I unref it after the _show()?20:26
MohammadAGor does that not block?20:27
Sc0rpiusit's part of the private data of the object, shouldn't you unref it when the object is disposed?20:30
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Sc0rpius(that is in your finalize function that's empty :P)20:33
Sc0rpiusif you look the programming style of Maemo, all private data is unreferences in the finalize function20:33
Sc0rpiusfinalize should have:20:34
Sc0rpius1.- priv = ...GET_PRIVATE(obj)20:34
Sc0rpius2.- unref everything that needs to be unref20:34
Sc0rpius3.- G_OBJECT_CLASS(parent_class)->finalize (obj);20:34
Sc0rpius(if you use that)20:35
Sc0rpius(and I see you don't)20:35
MohammadAGhmm20:37
Sc0rpiusjust read some examples of the code you're working on (hildon-desktop I guess)20:38
MohammadAGI'm more of a C editor rather than a C coder :P20:38
MohammadAGI suck at GLib/GObject20:39
Sc0rpiusPS3 OFW 3.60 is coming tomorrow :( PSN is already down for maintenance :'(20:40
MohammadAGyeah, cloud storage20:40
Sc0rpiusI'll miss Tekken 6 online20:40
MohammadAGKillzone 3 here :p20:40
MohammadAGthp, http://gitorious.org/qildon/hildon-desktop/commit/a9e08944c7ab06520345285038ac8d732493cdfc21:10
MohammadAGhttp://gitorious.org/qildon/hildon-desktop/commit/3479724832a93cad82c6715003910ac7f23eab2b21:11
merlin1991MohammadAG, do you plan the update for tonight?21:11
MohammadAGyes21:12
merlin1991aka should I check back later and write a changelog?21:12
merlin1991and complain about stuff missing @ gitorious? ;)21:12
MohammadAGyou can write it tomorrow, no worries21:12
MohammadAGxD21:12
MohammadAGportrait support in the task launcher, lost on gitorious ^21:12
MohammadAGXrandr, ouch21:13
merlin1991what kind of portrait support in the task launcher is that, or in other words are we talking about the menu to launch apps or the start window h-d fills with a screenshot?21:14
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MohammadAGtask manager, sorry21:15
merlin1991ahh now that makes sense :D21:16
merlin1991thumbs up for that :)21:16
MohammadAGresizable home screen widgets too21:16
MohammadAGfun21:16
merlin1991hehe21:21
merlin1991I'll be happy to update and try everything out21:21
merlin1991and hopefully it breaks docs system again so can have some more fun fixing it xD21:21
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mirakelsAnyone interested in an updated obexd?21:24
* merlin1991 is21:27
* merlin1991 want's proper supp0rt for his crappy parrot car stereo21:28
mirakelswith this latest obexd oyu may have a better change hat ths stock 0.18 version21:29
merlin1991oops that 0 sneaked in there I didn't even mean to write leetspeak :D21:31
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* merlin_1991 wants zeh release23:10
merlin_1991or in other wors23:10
merlin_1991i can haz cssu 13?23:11
merlin_1991:D23:11
thpMohammadAG: yay! does it work well?23:12
thp(the task nav portrait support)23:12
MohammadAGthp, haven't tested it :)23:13
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thpthe patch is quite big and has some cleanup stuff in there in addition to rotation support23:14
thpe.g. if (crtc_info == NULL) and changing g_warning to g_debug23:14
MohammadAGnoticed those23:18
MohammadAGand he's including XRandr, so it's probably not as pretty as the task nav one23:18
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merlin_1991ham acting like a fag atm23:26
merlin_1991doesn't want to update the katalogs23:26
MohammadAGxD23:28
merlin_1991okay katalogs finally updated23:28
merlin_1991I think I should disable -devel again23:28
merlin_1991with only extras ham was 10 billion times faster23:29
* merlin_1991 feels like committing suicide watching ham take forever to display 1 update entry23:30
Sc0rpiusI want to create a local repository23:30
Sc0rpiusthat updates itself like every 2 days or something23:31
Sc0rpiusbut the phone accesses it via LAN and it doesn't TAKE FUCKING YEARS TO APT-GET UPDATE23:31
Sc0rpiussorry but I hate that too23:31
merlin_1991Sc0rpius, apt-mirror is your friend23:31
MohammadAGi actually wanted to do that a year ago23:31
MohammadAGwhen the servers sucked23:31
Sc0rpiusand I can run that in one of my Linux servers?23:31
merlin_1991yes23:31
MohammadAGbut realized downloading 56GBs of data isn't better23:32
merlin_1991guess how I did set up http://87.106.163.159/maemo/23:32
Sc0rpiusthe idea is that one of my 24/7 computers update itself once a day early in the morning or something when I'm not using bandwidth23:32
Sc0rpiusbut when I try to install something it will ONLY access my local server23:32
Sc0rpius56GBs is not that much23:32
merlin_1991edit the catalogs (disable all but your server) and you're good to go23:32
Sc0rpiusthe first download will be big but after that I guess is only the "delta" right?23:33
merlin_1991yep23:33
merlin_1991first dl will be 65 gb23:33
merlin_1991that's the current size of -devel23:33
merlin_1991extras is only 6.5 gb :D23:34
merlin_1991cssu 183 mb :D23:34
Sc0rpiusone of these days I'm gonna do it23:34
MohammadAGSc0rpius, it is, on a 5MBps connection23:34
merlin_1991also Sc0rpius have fun with the syntax of the apt-mirror sources.list23:34
Sc0rpiusdownload it at work/school and copy it to an external HDD23:34
merlin_1991and additionally with the user rights :D23:35
Sc0rpius:S23:35
merlin_1991I made the mistake to invoke the first run as root23:35
merlin_1991so the directories were all owned by root23:35
merlin_1991and then the updtes by cron didn't work23:35
merlin_1991because the cron system used a dedicated apt-mirror user :D23:35
MohammadAGSc0rpius, work/school isn't faster23:36
Sc0rpius:(23:36
MohammadAGthey're rolling out fibre optics for israeli areas23:36
merlin_1991MohammadAG, send someone with fast internetz a hdd and have him dl :D23:36
MohammadAGmerlin_1991, you? NEVAR!!123:36
MohammadAGjk23:36
merlin_1991nah I have sucky internetz23:37
MohammadAGcan't wait for 100MBps speeds23:37
MohammadAGand $200 bills23:37
merlin_1991there's fibre optics in the city already23:37
merlin_1991but I live on the wrong street :/23:37
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MohammadAGLOL23:37
merlin_1991eta for here is "dunno" from official sources :D23:37
MohammadAGeta for us is last summer23:38
merlin_1991MohammadAG, that task switcher portrait stuff, does it have a setting again?23:38
MohammadAGnow when I check the site it's like23:38
MohammadAGNGN (as they call it), is not available in your area, but you can win an iPod Touch23:38
MohammadAGmerlin_1991, never merged it23:39
merlin_1991shame23:39
MohammadAGjust noticed it on gitorious23:39
merlin_1991are you going to merge it though? :D23:39
MohammadAGif it uses xrandr, hell no23:39
MohammadAGxP23:39
merlin_1991MOHAMMAD23:40
merlin_1991you didn't push the pr23:40
merlin_1991:D23:40
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* MohammadAG facepalms23:40
merlin_1991and what's that zoom in/out stuff actually?23:42
MohammadAGit zooms in hildon-desktop and zooms out23:42
MohammadAGkinda like an accessibility feature23:42
merlin_1991ah and how do you start it? :D23:42
MohammadAGCTRL+SHIFT = a23:43
MohammadAG$a+s / $+f23:43
MohammadAG:P23:43
merlin_1991holy shits23:43
merlin_1991useless :D23:43
merlin_1991and the swipe speed is hilarious :D23:44
MohammadAGcheck the commit owner23:44
merlin_1991so where are my new community-pr refs?23:45
MohammadAGon my laptop23:45
MohammadAGLinux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10power46-wl1 #1 PREEMPT Sun Dec 19 20:51:27 CET 2010 armv7l unknown23:45
merlin_1991come on, push push push :D23:46
merlin_1991gonna write the changelog right after I found out when I'll have to be @ university tomorrow23:48
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merlin_1991webpage is a mess23:48
merlin_1991they have 1 system that is meant to be used23:49
merlin_1991and like 10 legacy ones23:49
merlin_1991that are all used by the older guys who don't want to switch23:49
merlin_1991so the info is spread all over the university servers :D23:50
merlin_1991at least there is a unified login23:50
merlin_1991hm I just noticed that the german translation in the calendar app is broken23:55
merlin_1991the alarm setting for none has the wrong gender xD23:55
merlin_1991MohammadAG, changes from 12.5 are just orientation lock and h-d, right?23:56
MohammadAGmerlin_1991, that's hd too23:57
MohammadAGand yeah23:57
MohammadAGgoing to sleep though, night :p23:57
merlin_1991night23:57
Sc0rpiusnite nite23:58
merlin_1991and push the pr tomorrow ;)23:58
Sc0rpiussleeping at 5:30 pm geez :P23:58
merlin_1991Sc0rpius, where do you live?23:58
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