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| DocScrutinizer | is this a known bug in CSSU to reduce the screen brightness "slider" from 5 steps to ONE? | 00:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'd appreciate suggestions what to check/reinstall/tweak/hack/fix to get brightness setting back to work | 00:10 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer, afaik it's not a known bug, and here with cssu installed I still have 5 steps | 00:14 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer, it didn't reduced it | 00:19 |
| ZogG | for me | 00:19 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer try to reinstall applet, did you install it after are before? | 00:19 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer just installed it - works perfect | 00:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | since PR1.0 | 00:20 |
| lcuk2 | screenshot of docs system: https://slacportal.slac.stanford.edu/sites/ard_public/echo/PublishingImages/White_Crystal.jpg | 00:21 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer i instaleld afetr, try to reinstall it | 00:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | and it even took a while to realize a long press on the settings button in system menu directly toggles the keep-on | 00:23 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer delete it, force to reinstall brightness components ( reinstall applet after) | 00:23 |
| ZogG | maybe find configs connected to brightness and remove then and force reinstall | 00:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | ZogG: I already deinstalled it, would reinstall all brightness stuff if only I knew what it was | 00:25 |
| ZogG | no help from me here | 00:25 |
| ZogG | anyway good luck and good night | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | nota bene BOTH "sliders" are fsckd up. the one originally in settings - screen - brightness and the identical simple brightness applet one | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | "switch off screen automatically (after ... sec?)" also is broken | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd say something with *.so brightness lib is borked | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | Not_MyNokia got a kick in the balls as well, MyNokia reappeared in settings | 00:36 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer i smell flash | 00:40 |
| * ZogG can't fall asleep | 00:40 | |
| DocScrutinizer | FFS, CSSU update still in HAM | 00:40 |
| ZogG | haha | 00:42 |
| ZogG | maybe it wasn't installed properly | 00:42 |
| ZogG | and this is your problem | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | damn that's scary, it does the NOLO system update shuffle again | 00:42 |
| ZogG | why don't you try apt-get update && apt-get upgrade | 00:42 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer NOLO? | 00:43 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer you are german, wat are you affraid of? | 00:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | [NOKIA] "doing system update... please don't interrupt!" | 00:43 |
| ZogG | NOKIA? | 00:44 |
| ZogG | wtf? | 00:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | you never seen the NOKIA screen during boot? | 00:45 |
| ZogG | oh | 00:47 |
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| ZogG | but never saw it saying system update | 00:47 |
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| ZogG | just reboots | 00:47 |
| ZogG | or you flashed? | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's why I said it's scary | 00:47 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer so does it work now or you still can't interrupt them? | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | WAAAAAAAAH "maemo 5 Community SSU Package" *STILL* in HAM updates! WTF!! | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | interrupt whom? | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | the boot has finished, I restarted HAM, clicked updates, and here I am again. clicking "update all" will cause another shuffle | 00:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | now that's definitely thoroughly fuckedup | 00:49 |
| ZogG | try to do it from console | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | do what? | 00:50 |
| ZogG | try to run CSSU enabler once again | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | the cssu enabler is gone :-P | 00:50 |
| ZogG | and than apt-get update && apt-get upgrade | 00:50 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer than install it | 00:50 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer i think something went wrong | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | oh shit! | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | no cssu enabler to install | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | great, I didn't manage to break things with a apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr that updated 976 packages, but CSSU renders device unusable | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's definitely funny, sort of | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | great, now what's the "binary" of CSSU enabler called. I alegedly could DEinstall it, but there's no icon in applauncher menu to start it | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm not amused | 00:58 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer, in a sec | 01:00 |
| merlin1991 | install-community-ssu in /usr/sbin | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | thnx | 01:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Community SSU already enabled | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | Press any key to exit... | 01:06 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer, do you still have the cssu in the source list? | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | sourcelist? | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | sorry nfi about dpkg and apt here | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | just pondering what to edit and/or to delete to make that script run again | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | tbh also wondering how to get rid of the whole CSSU thing | 01:12 |
| merlin1991 | the script looks @ /var/lib/dpkg/info/mp-fremantle-community-pr.list | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | I know | 01:13 |
| merlin1991 | and if it exists it aborts | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | I know | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | but NFC who is creating that list | 01:13 |
| merlin1991 | but there's lots of stuff in postinst and prerm | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | and if it's a good idea to rename it | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe best effort was to remove enabler via HAM, then update the CSSU a 4th time | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | but I guess that won't fix much of the issues | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | sigh, I updated server farms with less effort and headache | 01:16 |
| merlin1991 | do you have any weird apt pins? | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | nope | 01:17 |
| merlin1991 | did you start from pr1.3 or pr1.2? | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | wouldn't even know how to pin | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | I started from PR1.0 I guess, then installed apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr on PR1.2, after downgrading MHD | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/bin/apt-get install libgq-gconf0 | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/bin/apt-get install --reinstall telepathy-sofiasip ;# | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/bin/apt-get install --reinstall telepathy-sofiasip ;# Sun Mar 6 18:17:17 CET 2011 | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/bin/apt-get install rtcom-accounts-plugin-sip ;# So., 6. Mär. 2011 19:42:36 CET | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/bin/apt-get install backupmenu ;# So., 6. Mär. 2011 19:48:27 CET | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/bin/apt-get install hildon-desktop=1:2.2.140-1+0m5 ;# So., 6. Mär. 2011 21:26:00 CET | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/bin/apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr ;# So., 6. Mär. 2011 21:55:26 CET | 01:19 |
| merlin1991 | tbh I don't know how well cssu works from pr1.2, I did install it from 1.3 and it went without problems | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | I didn't install CSSU on PR1.3 | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | last line of above gave me 974 updates and a seemingly proper PR1.3 | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | then I installed CSSU | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | which I better hadn't | 01:20 |
| merlin1991 | I guess you should have done the real ota update before going for cssu | 01:21 |
| merlin1991 | try to apt-get remove --purge community-ssu-enabler | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | what do you thing a /usr/bin/apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr is doing? | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | think* | 01:21 |
| merlin1991 | fucking things up ;) | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, it didn't for me | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | things fucked up with CSSU | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok, apt-get it is then, not HAM uninstall | 01:23 |
| merlin1991 | I'm just taking a wild guess atm, but I'd say unistall the enabler via apt-get | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAHAHAHAHA | 01:23 |
| merlin1991 | check sources | 01:23 |
| merlin1991 | (remove cssu if still present) | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | mp-fremantle-community-pr: Depends: hildon-desktop (>= 1:2.2.142-10) but 1:2.2.140-1+0m5 is to be installed | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). | 01:24 |
| merlin1991 | can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-desktop_1%3a2.2.142-10_armel.deb (--unpack): | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/gconf/schemas/hildon-desktop-keys.schemas', which is also in package modified-hildon-desktop | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | Errors were encountered while processing: | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-desktop_1%3a2.2.142-10_armel.deb | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 01:26 |
| merlin1991 | somewhere your mhd left traces in the system :D | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | somehow | 01:27 |
| merlin1991 | what does dpkg -l hildon-desktop tell you? | 01:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | so now I can't uninstall cssu-enabler because apt can't install mhd142 instead of the 140 that I used to replace 142 to enable update to PR1.3 | 01:28 |
| * DocScrutinizer moans | 01:28 | |
| DocScrutinizer | seriously, I'm kinda getting lost in this | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | incredible | 01:29 |
| merlin1991 | well, what does `dpkg-l hildon-desktop` tell you? | 01:30 |
| merlin1991 | (besides unknown command because I missed a space after dpkg :D) | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | ii hildon-desktop 1:2.2.140-1+0m5 Hildon desktop for Fremantle | 01:31 |
| * DocScrutinizer heading out for more coffee and a painkiller | 01:32 | |
| merlin1991 | and what does dpkg -l modified-hildon-desktop give you? | 01:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | thanks btw for talking me thru this - - my guess is CSSU update via HAM installed all the .dpk but failed for the MHD142 as it already was there | 01:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | mompls, coffee rings | 01:36 |
| merlin1991 | actually there's an easy way to find that out, go to the update in ham select the cssu update and check in the details page what it would update | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | heh | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | just that takes a 5 min, HAM is slooooow | 01:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | ii modified-hildon-desktop 3.1 Modified Hildon desktop for Fremantle | 01:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | is there a conflict of different pkgs providing same binary? | 01:41 |
| merlin1991 | mhd provides the hildon-desktop and the hildon-desktop package in cssu provides it too | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | to update: hildon-desktop(1:2.2.142-10) | 01:42 |
| merlin1991 | yep like you guessed, all that's left is the hildon desktop update | 01:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 01:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | fails for some reason | 01:42 |
| merlin1991 | apt-get install hildon-desktop | 01:43 |
| merlin1991 | and see the results .D | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | GRRRRR | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) | 01:43 |
| merlin1991 | close ham | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah I know | 01:43 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | the CSSU mantra | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 30 not upgraded. | 01:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | 11 not fully installed or removed. | 01:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | Need to get 0B/233kB of archives. | 01:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | Errors were encountered while processing: | 01:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-desktop_1%3a2.2.142-10_armel.deb | 01:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 01:45 |
| * merlin1991 checks the mhd package before speading fud that leads to needed flash | 01:46 | |
| DocScrutinizer | ls: Zugriff auf /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-desktop_1%3a2.2.14 nicht möglich: No such file or directory | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | while it still expands on tab o.O | 01:47 |
| merlin1991 | lol | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# ll /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-deskto* | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 225880 2010-10-25 11:42 /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-desktop_1%3a2.2.140-1+0m5_armel.deb | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 233440 2011-02-25 12:55 /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-desktop_1%3a2.2.142-10_armel.deb | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | missing escapes? | 01:47 |
| merlin1991 | dunno | 01:48 |
| merlin1991 | do you have the file /usr/bin/hildon-desktop.launch.orig ? | 01:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# ll /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-deskto* | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 225880 2010-10-25 11:42 /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-desktop_1%3a2.2.140-1+0m5_armel.deb | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 233440 2011-02-25 12:55 /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-desktop__3a__2.2.142-10_armel.deb | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# mv /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-desktop_1*142* /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-desktop__3a__2.2.142-10_armel.deb | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# ll /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-desktop__3a__2.2.142-10_armel.deb | 01:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 233440 2011-02-25 12:55 /var/cache/apt/archives/hildon-desktop__3a__2.2.142-10_armel.deb | 01:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# ll /usr/bin/hildon-desktop.launch.orig | 01:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 455684 2010-08-25 20:19 /usr/bin/hildon-desktop.launch.orig | 01:51 |
| merlin1991 | okay that means mhd is still installed | 01:51 |
| merlin1991 | apt-get remove modified-hildon-desktop | 01:52 |
| merlin1991 | apt-get install hildon-desktop | 01:52 |
| merlin1991 | then you should be good to go | 01:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | mp-fremantle-community-pr: Depends: hildon-desktop (>= 1:2.2.142-10) but 1:2.2.140-1+0m5 is to be installed | 01:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). | 01:52 |
| merlin1991 | ah yeah bloody dependency hell | 01:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol | 01:53 |
| merlin1991 | forgot that you have the cssu metapackage already xD | 01:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | apt-get remove mp-cssu-frem-proo then? | 01:54 |
| merlin1991 | prob the easiest way | 01:54 |
| merlin1991 | then remove mhd | 01:55 |
| merlin1991 | and then install the mp-cssu.. again | 01:55 |
| merlin1991 | wich should pull in the newest hildon-desktop | 01:55 |
| merlin1991 | we should conflict with mhd, this is clearly fucked up :D | 01:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | now look at this -> http://paste.debian.net/109812/ | 01:56 |
| merlin1991 | lmao | 01:57 |
| merlin1991 | well go ahead and remove mhd | 01:57 |
| merlin1991 | and install the mp- package again | 01:57 |
| * DocScrutinizer checks his brightness applet | 01:57 | |
| DocScrutinizer | meh | 01:57 |
| merlin1991 | after you've installed the mp- package you'll need a reboot | 01:58 |
| merlin1991 | (if it actually worked out) | 01:58 |
| * merlin1991 wonders if it worked | 01:59 | |
| DocScrutinizer | Removing modified-hildon-desktop ... | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | Stopping hildon-desktop | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | Starting hildon-desktop | 01:59 |
| merlin1991 | that's ok | 01:59 |
| merlin1991 | now it should finally be able to install hildon-desktop without failing :D | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | The following packages will be upgraded: | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | hildon-desktop | 01:59 |
| merlin1991 | that's ok | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | returns 0 | 02:00 |
| merlin1991 | reboot and hope for the best :D | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | Setting up mp-fremantle-community-pr (20.2010.36-2maemo12.5) ... | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | result: 0 | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | reboot | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | err | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | accidentally typed this to a ssh to a server once :-P | 02:01 |
| merlin1991 | dpkg -l hildon-desktop should give you 1:2.2.142-10 now | 02:01 |
| merlin1991 | better than typing poweroff over ssh | 02:01 |
| merlin1991 | then you're fucked :D | 02:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah | 02:02 |
| merlin1991 | does you n900 even boot? :D | 02:02 |
| merlin1991 | *your* | 02:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAA! my brightness applet has 5 sectors | 02:03 |
| * merlin1991 rulez | 02:03 | |
| merlin1991 | bitte, geht doch :) | 02:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes sir! | 02:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | many many thanks | 02:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | now I leave it up to the more savvy about CSSU to open that ticket | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | ii hildon-desktop 1:2.2.142-10 Hildon desktop for Fremantle | 02:04 |
| merlin1991 | perfect | 02:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | absolutely perfect. now just get CSSU out of HAM updates ;-) | 02:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | (if it's still there) | 02:05 |
| merlin1991 | it shouldn't be there anymore | 02:06 |
| merlin1991 | since you now have everything the metapackge depends on | 02:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | yup | 02:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | rrright | 02:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, in 5 min we'll know for sure ;-D | 02:06 |
| merlin1991 | hehe | 02:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | the brightness slider borked thing is amazing | 02:07 |
| merlin1991 | silly mhd package, not replacing hildon-desktop but doing weird stuff in postinst and prerm moving binaries around | 02:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok, CSSU is gone | 02:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | alarmed: 6.1MB :-o | 02:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | *burrp* | 02:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | "OK" | 02:09 |
| merlin1991 | alarmed? | 02:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | conflicts \o/ | 02:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | alarmd frontend | 02:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | pyside-qt4-* meeh | 02:09 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 02:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually pyside-qt4-(maemo5|core|gui) (<0.4.2-1maemo8) | 02:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | I wonder who needs those ... | 02:11 |
| merlin1991 | I have no idea | 02:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | would apt-get rm tell me? | 02:12 |
| merlin1991 | easier to just check on maemo.org/packages | 02:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | nah, I got a ssh running, but no browser open to maemo.org | 02:12 |
| merlin1991 | healthcheck qaikuclient media-im-status-updater alarmed squeezecontrol | 02:13 |
| merlin1991 | they all depend on the pyside-qt4 package | 02:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | so does alarmed, errr | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | but some of them seem to depend on a version <0.4.2 | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | aiui | 02:15 |
| merlin1991 | that were the ones that depend on the 0.3.whatever version in testing | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | I got none of the others. just alarmed | 02:16 |
| merlin1991 | and now the ones that depend on the 1.0.0-1 in -devel: | 02:16 |
| merlin1991 | pyside-qt4-base-dev qaikuclient media-im-status-updater rejs-dk pyside-mobility-versit pyside-mobility-serviceframework pyside-mobility-contacts pyside-mobility-sensors pyside-mobility-systeminfo pyside-mobility-location pyside-mobility-publishsubscribe pyside-mobility-bearer pyside-mobility-messaging vertsms squeezecontrol | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | so it's apt-get remove now, I guess. Which means close ham | 02:16 |
| merlin1991 | also now that you have the new and shiny hildon-desktop from the cssu you have some settings in /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transitions.ini | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | umm, used transitions-tweaker since some weeks | 02:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | remember, I got MHD before | 02:18 |
| merlin1991 | afaik the cssu hildon-desktop places a clean .ini with the new settings on the device | 02:19 |
| merlin1991 | and moves your orignial to .old | 02:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | ahaaaa | 02:19 |
| merlin1991 | or .org or whatever they did | 02:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, I decided to continue with updates prior to closing HAM for apt-get remove pyqt*, so it's busy updating marble | 02:20 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 02:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | thanks again, pal! | 02:20 |
| merlin1991 | but yeah cssu contains most of mhd (if not everything) + a few additional things | 02:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | you honestly made my day | 02:21 |
| merlin1991 | glad to help | 02:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | oooo-k | 02:21 |
| merlin1991 | what happened now? :D | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | ham chilling | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah now | 02:22 |
| merlin1991 | ham loves to chill | 02:22 |
| merlin1991 | actually you should have a portrait ham now too :) | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | pyside-qt4-maemo5 | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | The following NEW packages will be installed: | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | libpyside1.0 libshiboken1.0 python-pyside.qtcore python-pyside.qtgui python-pyside.qtmaemo5 | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | The following packages will be upgraded: | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | alarmed pyside-qt4-core pyside-qt4-gui | 02:24 |
| merlin1991 | wtf? | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://paste.debian.net/109815/ | 02:25 |
| merlin1991 | I guess you have -devel enabled? | 02:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 02:26 |
| merlin1991 | ffs maemo.org is down | 02:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-/ | 02:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | what do you think, loks sane & safe, no? | 02:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | looks* | 02:27 |
| merlin1991 | looks safe, but not sane | 02:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | (if repos are still up) | 02:27 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 02:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | hehehe | 02:27 |
| merlin1991 | btw if repos are down, I run a mirror of extras, -devel, and the cssu on http://87.106.163.159/maemo/ | 02:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: ... rtcom-accounts-voip-support ... | 02:32 |
| * DocScrutinizer wonders | 02:32 | |
| DocScrutinizer | rtcom-accounts-voip-support sounds like it's damn needed for my SIP VoIP, and it sounds like removing it would cause exactly the issues I've seen (no VoIP calls outbound due to service SIP missing in dialer, inbound calls get rejected and logged as "missed") | 02:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | so odds are my problems started with a apt-get autoremove | 02:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | btw the pyqt thing went all smoth | 02:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | smooth* | 02:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | (mirror) nice. How do you sync it? | 02:37 |
| * DocScrutinizer is dancing a jig while ringing his landline via sipgate on N900 | 02:40 | |
| merlin1991 | cron takes care to sync it every day @ 4:00 | 02:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | once more I notice the dialer is missing an extremly simple redial function | 02:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | rsync? | 02:41 |
| merlin1991 | nope | 02:41 |
| merlin1991 | apt-mirror | 02:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah | 02:41 |
| merlin1991 | handy todo that, all you have to set up is another sources.list for apt-mirror and the rest is done by apt-mirror :) | 02:42 |
| * DocScrutinizer idly hits the green button on a dialer with empty number textfield | 02:42 | |
| merlin1991 | I wonder why my n900 does not suggest to remove the Rtcom-accounts-voip-support | 02:43 |
| merlin1991 | because I have nothing that depends on it | 02:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | Now I just wonder if I can call myself via sip videocall, from one client on same account as other client | 02:47 |
| merlin1991 | don't think so :D | 02:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | ouch, sipgate kicked me | 02:48 |
| merlin1991 | well it's late enough for me, night :) | 02:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | night :-D | 02:49 |
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| macmaN | morning allz | 10:01 |
| macmaN | is it possible to make n900 not start charging when connected to usb | 10:02 |
| barzam | macmaN: maybe check in #maemo? | 10:03 |
| macmaN | actually searching tmo would probably make sense first | 10:04 |
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| MohammadAG | macmaN, stop bme, it'll still charge but at a lower current | 10:13 |
| MohammadAG | ask DocScrutinizer, some i2cset magic might kill charging (feel free NOT to experiment with i2cset, it can kill the device) | 10:14 |
| MohammadAG | -> #maemo | 10:14 |
| macmaN | i should file another cssu feature | 10:17 |
| macmaN | request | 10:17 |
| macmaN | "find missing microusb cables" | 10:17 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:54 |
| MohammadAG | morning Jaffa | 10:55 |
| Tronic | macmaN: Hmm, there are a number of charging-related issues. For instance, charging being so slow that the battery still drains (IIRC, this is the case in mass storage mode but in pc-suite mode it charges fine). | 10:57 |
| Tronic | macmaN: And not being to charge at all if using a dumb charger that doesn't have the USB data bins shorted (many older chargers still don't do that). | 10:58 |
| Tronic | In the latter case the N900 apparently thinks it is trying to connect with a computer but because USB handshake is not working, it won't do anything. | 10:59 |
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| macmaN | Tronic: my goal would be to lighten the load on laptop battery but still have usb network connection | 11:51 |
| Tronic | macmaN: Why don't you use Mobile HotSpot? | 11:58 |
| Tronic | It is 3G that is draining your phone battery (in 3-4 hours from max to zero), not the WiFi. | 11:59 |
| Tronic | Also WiFi on laptops uses very little power (e.g. considerably less than Gigabit Ethernet port does when in use). | 11:59 |
| Tronic | But because of the excessive battery usage of 3G, you probably want to have the phone charged anyway, if you are going to be using it for any longer periods. | 12:00 |
| Tronic | So, Mobile HotSpot + AC charger (I also like Proporta USB TurboCharger 5000) is optimal, or possibly AC charger for laptop and USB cable for phone. | 12:01 |
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| Tronic | It is funny how I can play games on an overclocked phone much longer than I can listen to Internet radio. | 12:02 |
| Tronic | The latter drains the battery in about four hours. | 12:02 |
| Tronic | Ur-Quan Masters I have certainly played for more than five hours straight with one charge. | 12:03 |
| Tronic | Dunno of 3d games, Bounce stays interesting for a while but I wouldn't play that for hours. | 12:03 |
| Tronic | Are there any other decent 3d games, anyway? | 12:04 |
| Tronic | OpenArena and other FPS games are quite unplayable and also the lack of lighting makes these games look very ugly. | 12:04 |
| Tronic | (but with overclocking they at least run at very good framerates) | 12:04 |
| * Tronic would love to have Performous ported over to N900 and it seems that we are getting very close with that. | 12:05 | |
| macmaN | Tronic: i run my phone in 2G | 12:06 |
| macmaN | Tronic: actually this particular goal is to have the phone access network through laptop, not the other way around | 12:06 |
| macmaN | performous on N900, that would be fricking awesome | 12:07 |
| macmaN | i will need to get some clamps that could hold the n900 in the drum rack | 12:07 |
| macmaN | i am very very interested in developing drum study specific interface for performous | 12:08 |
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| macmaN | this is also very interesting http://airturninc989.corecommerce.com/Bluetooth-AirTurn-for-iPad-c13/ but even if you have sheet music, i think the scrolling note display still has its place for various purposes | 12:09 |
| Tronic | Host mode USB, a bunch of instruments connected, TV out to a projector and audio system, all running on a goddamn cellphone. | 12:09 |
| macmaN | not sure if this #maemo-ssu topic anymore :P | 12:10 |
| Tronic | Not that this would actually be so useful but it would definitely explode the geek awesomeness factor. | 12:10 |
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| mece | \o | 12:10 |
| Tronic | macmaN: Well, I have discussed about three lines on-topic here and several screenfulls of off-topic so I guess chatting is permitted here. | 12:11 |
| Tronic | Of course if this is to be an on-topic channel, maybe we should move the discussion elsewhere :) | 12:12 |
| Tronic | (also it seems that SSU development discussion only happens when it is the night in Europe) | 12:12 |
| macmaN | i really really need to set up a diablo/chinook build environment | 12:12 |
| macmaN | n900 development env setup was actually quite straightforward when i used the QT tools and Mad Dev | 12:13 |
| macmaN | i still dont have it set up on mac though, since im on leopard still | 12:14 |
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| Tronic | I just got Performous mostly complying to OpenGL 4.1 Core yesterday, from there it should be rather trivial to get it ported to GLES 2.0. | 12:17 |
| Tronic | I suppose that SDL + GLEW is supported for GLES 2.0 on N900? | 12:17 |
| macmaN | opengl is voodooish for me from dev standpoint | 12:18 |
| macmaN | how do i get screen-256color terminal type on maemo | 12:18 |
| macmaN | any packages that provide it? | 12:19 |
| Tronic | If they only just recently got even the 16 basic colors working (via a CSSU fix), I doubt 256 colors being available. | 12:20 |
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| macmaN | oh? | 12:21 |
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| RST38h | BTW, how do I make CSSU Modest run in portrait mode? | 15:07 |
| RST38h | It does not appear to rotate. Furthermore, desktop mail widget is gone and the settings dialog appears to be slightly broken | 15:07 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, it isn't supposed to rotate | 15:21 |
| RST38h | ah | 15:23 |
| MohammadAG | yet at least | 15:23 |
| RST38h | What about the missing Mail widget (not even in the list of available widgets) and the settings dialog being somewhat broken? | 15:23 |
| MohammadAG | which settings dialog? | 15:24 |
| RST38h | Modest Settings | 15:24 |
| MohammadAG | the widget probably got uninstalled | 15:24 |
| MohammadAG | used fapman? | 15:24 |
| RST38h | Open thedialogand you will see that all the buttons are longer than needed | 15:24 |
| RST38h | no, used official method | 15:24 |
| MohammadAG | that's in default modest | 15:25 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 15:25 |
| MohammadAG | did you do an apt-get autoremove? | 15:25 |
| RST38h | ok, so buttons were always like that? | 15:25 |
| RST38h | no,did not autoremoved anything | 15:25 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 15:25 |
| RST38h | and apt-get upgrade does not offer to remove stuff | 15:25 |
| MohammadAG | weird, apt-get install it | 15:25 |
| MohammadAG | apt-get install modest-home-applet | 15:26 |
| RST38h | yea, doing it as we speak | 15:26 |
| RST38h | Waiting for HAM-started apt task to finish (has been a lot of painlately) | 15:27 |
| RST38h | Ok,mail applet is back up, coool | 15:29 |
| RST38h | MohammadAG: Settings and Conversations now appear to auto-rotate. Is this a CSSU feature or am I ...mmm... seeing things? | 15:31 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, edited transitions.ini? | 15:32 |
| MohammadAG | if you set forcerotation to 1, all apps will autorotate | 15:32 |
| MohammadAG | if not, I guess you used CTRL+SHIFT+R | 15:32 |
| RST38h | no, not edited it | 15:32 |
| RST38h | I guess so | 15:34 |
| RST38h | [notification] is_cool <== what the hell might it be? =) | 15:34 |
| MohammadAG | no idea lol | 15:34 |
| MohammadAG | haven't checked code for it | 15:35 |
| RST38h | let us test! | 15:35 |
| RST38h | no effect | 15:36 |
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| RST38h | This is_cool stuff actually does some pretty crazy stuff: http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle-hildon-desktop/hildon-desktop/commit/ecf71670cdd22997e3c4b82d2371e96b9ad0a85b?diffmode=sidebyside | 15:39 |
| RST38h | It is portrait-mode specific, so someone has been working on enabling the portrait already | 15:39 |
| lcuk | RST38h, :) Adam did so much solid work on hildon for everyone | 15:40 |
| RST38h | no shit... | 15:40 |
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| MohammadAG | oh, it's just a different effect then | 15:44 |
| * MohammadAG keeps it set to 1, kinda like it more | 15:45 | |
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| AsiQue | what notifications does "is_cool" handles? | 15:56 |
| MohammadAG | the one for chat/email/sms etc | 15:59 |
| AsiQue | ohh tnx.. MohammadAG, for the last few days i'm trying to figure something, but can't find an answer in any documentation... i'm trying to debug hildon-desktop in scratchbox via esbox... do you know of any documentation about that? | 16:03 |
| MohammadAG | no, I think you can start it with -d but I'm not sure | 16:04 |
| AsiQue | what in init.d? | 16:04 |
| AsiQue | or from esbox? | 16:04 |
| MohammadAG | init scripts, scripts run at bootup | 16:05 |
| AsiQue | ok... tnx.. so btw do you debug it (gdb tec) or just check what the changes tyou did in the code do...? | 16:05 |
| AsiQue | *tec = etc | 16:06 |
| MohammadAG | never ran it with gdb tbh | 16:06 |
| AsiQue | ok.... | 16:06 |
| AsiQue | tnx | 16:06 |
| MohammadAG | yw | 16:06 |
| MohammadAG | I wonder if we could provide app locking support in hildon-desktop | 16:07 |
| MohammadAG | then an app could latch onto that support to provide a GUI and config | 16:07 |
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| AsiQue | do you mean that the app locking will be implemented on hildon-desktop and the app will just use the hildon-deskop routines to make itself portrait? | 16:10 |
| MohammadAG | portrait? wtf | 16:10 |
| AsiQue | didn't you mean oriantation locking? | 16:11 |
| MohammadAG | no, I mean app locking | 16:11 |
| MohammadAG | with a password | 16:11 |
| AsiQue | ohhh lol! | 16:11 |
| MohammadAG | :p | 16:11 |
| AsiQue | sorry.... hammm explain a little more what you mean... | 16:12 |
| AsiQue | do you want an app to be able to password protect itself? while running (like a screen saver pass)? or when on startup? | 16:14 |
| MohammadAG | on startup | 16:14 |
| MohammadAG | well, before startup, something global to prevent friends from opening apps with private stuff | 16:15 |
| AsiQue | well sounds interesting... i just don't let them touch my nokia :-) | 16:16 |
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| AsiQue | so actually all the apps will use the same pin... wich could be set in the settings menu? | 16:19 |
| AsiQue | but you don't mean a global password lock for the device? or do you? | 16:21 |
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| AsiQue | ? | 16:29 |
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| MohammadAG | AsiQue, no | 16:30 |
| MohammadAG | AsiQue, one pass for all | 16:30 |
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| AsiQue | i don't think it should be difficult, do you think that on startup an app should signal the hildon-desktop taht it wants to be started protected? | 16:32 |
| MohammadAG | no, just provide a signal like "application-about-to-start", then another dev can listen to that | 16:33 |
| MohammadAG | anyway, it was just a tought | 16:33 |
| MohammadAG | thought* | 16:33 |
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| AsiQue | i know :-) | 16:34 |
| AsiQue | anyway... i saw that someone asked that when editing a desktop one can press "left" or "right" to pan ot other desktops but still stay in edit mode... i actually wanted something like that... so i'm going to try to implement it... | 16:37 |
| AsiQue | should i add a feature request in bugzilla? | 16:38 |
| MohammadAG | why not just swipe? | 16:40 |
| MohammadAG | (from outside the screen) | 16:40 |
| AsiQue | first i didn't know about that... :-! second.. i really don't have a second reason now... lol | 16:41 |
| AsiQue | altough its only working from right to left (the swipe) | 16:42 |
| MohammadAG | works from left to right for me | 16:43 |
| MohammadAG | has to be from outside the screen | 16:43 |
| MohammadAG | like microB | 16:43 |
| AsiQue | yeha... it also works form left to right here... just had some icons that moved when i swiped... | 16:44 |
| AsiQue | lol... ok... gonne need to find something else to do :-! | 16:46 |
| AsiQue | tnx anyway.... :-) | 16:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer | macmaN: stop bme | 16:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | macmaN: that's an advice as well as the command to type, to stop charging | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's also my slogan for next elections for president ;-D | 16:50 |
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| AsiQue | MohammadAG: did your password idea came form here? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=962438#post962438 | 16:55 |
| MohammadAG | AsiQue, from Symbian/Android more than that | 16:57 |
| MohammadAG | it was requested on tmo many times though | 16:58 |
| AsiQue | well it's a cool idea... | 17:00 |
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| macmaN | DocScrutinizer: mkay cool | 17:03 |
| macmaN | so as a sidenote | 17:04 |
| macmaN | anyone here considered an ncurses UI for mobile? | 17:04 |
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| macmaN | i'd love to experience a prototype of that | 17:05 |
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