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| Sc0rpius | top padding? | 00:46 |
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| Sc0rpius | well New message buttons don't touch the menubar and they shouldn't I guess | 00:47 |
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| MohammadAG | Sc0rpius, open modest, check the spacing between the title bar and the button | 01:05 |
| MohammadAG | now open mailbox view | 01:05 |
| MohammadAG | the spacing is less | 01:05 |
| MohammadAG | rest of the windows show it fine | 01:05 |
| Sc0rpius | ohhhhh | 01:05 |
| Sc0rpius | wow | 01:05 |
| Sc0rpius | I would have never noticed that | 01:06 |
| Sc0rpius | the mailboxes window is the oldest, it seems the code hasn't been touched in ages | 01:06 |
| Sc0rpius | I'll check what's that padding all about | 01:06 |
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| Sc0rpius | any other Modest bug you guys want to address with more priority? | 01:27 |
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| MohammadAG | Jaffa, pushing version 12.1 to the CSSU | 13:29 |
| MohammadAG | err, .5, my bad | 13:38 |
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| Venemo_N900 | so, rename it | 14:08 |
| Venemo_N900 | it is not zoom | 14:09 |
| MohammadAG | already uploaded | 14:09 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, thoughts? | 14:09 |
| Venemo_N900 | so, rename it | 14:09 |
| MohammadAG | already uploaded to repository Venemo_N900 | 14:09 |
| Venemo_N900 | so what? | 14:09 |
| Venemo_N900 | you can upload a new one in a minute | 14:10 |
| MohammadAG | it's not that critical | 14:10 |
| Venemo_N900 | it's confusing. | 14:10 |
| Venemo_N900 | please change it | 14:10 |
| MohammadAG | there's a comment in transitions.ini | 14:10 |
| MohammadAG | it clearly states it's an effect | 14:11 |
| Venemo_N900 | for the average users, it's confusing. believe me. | 14:11 |
| MohammadAG | also, one question | 14:11 |
| MohammadAG | are we pushing updates too quick? | 14:11 |
| Jaffa | "depress" would be better verb, but doesn't the "_on_press" suffix differentiate it from the accessibility zoom? | 14:11 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: No, don't think so. | 14:11 |
| Venemo_N900 | MohammadAG: you should do a sanity check on the terminologies first. | 14:12 |
| Jaffa | Venemo_N900: Average users won't be editing transitions.ini, just clueless n00bs on TMO who think they know what they're doing. | 14:12 |
| MohammadAG | so nobody's getting annoyed? | 14:12 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Nope | 14:12 |
| MohammadAG | Venemo_N900, I pushed that commit days ago and linked you to it :P | 14:12 |
| Jaffa | There's already "zoom" and "zoom_applets". Is "zoom_on_press" the only new one? | 14:12 |
| Venemo_N900 | MohammadAG: and I told you not to call it this way, days ago | 14:12 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 14:12 |
| MohammadAG | don't recall that o_O | 14:12 |
| Venemo_N900 | even before you committed it... | 14:13 |
| Jaffa | Venemo_N900: Since there's already "zoom" and "zoom_applets", "zoom_on_press" doesn't seem to conflict with "user_zoom" or "zoom_accessibility" or something | 14:13 |
| Venemo_N900 | Jaffa: yeah, it's not a big deal | 14:13 |
| Jaffa | And the user-friendly UI can better name things | 14:14 |
| Venemo_N900 | yeah. | 14:14 |
| Jaffa | transitions.ini deals with the technicalities and it *is* zooming on press | 14:14 |
| Venemo_N900 | if you insist... :) | 14:14 |
| Jaffa | It's just not the user-friendly, let-me-zoom-to-make-it-easier-to-use feature | 14:14 |
| Venemo_N900 | yeah. | 14:16 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, you saw this right? http://i52.tinypic.com/33u99tx.jpg | 14:17 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Shiny; but probably needs a custom widget like the unlock screen or the iPhone | 14:17 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Does it work? :-) | 14:18 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, yeah, I'm talking to Venemo_N900 about that | 14:18 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, I was thinking of the N97 slider, it kinda looks better than the iPhone's | 14:18 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Pick? Not sure I've seen the N97s | 14:23 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, 5800? 5530? | 14:23 |
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| MohammadAG | Jaffa, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdTj3d148UI | 14:25 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Yeah, that looks good. | 14:46 |
| * Jaffa installs the new update | 14:48 | |
| * Lava_Croft does the same | 14:51 | |
| * Lava_Croft starts uttering a prayer | 14:51 | |
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| Lava_Croft | MohammadAG: about the updates pushing: I love the frequent updates | 14:52 |
| Lava_Croft | it also gets you the best testing cases | 14:52 |
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| Jaffa | Obviously -stable will be less frequent | 14:52 |
| Lava_Croft | It's not like you dont warn people about the possible brick | 14:53 |
| Lava_Croft | CSSU wiki page states it clearly, its what kept me from using it, for about 5 days orso | 14:53 |
| Lava_Croft | Jaffa: its a bit hard to bugtest properly with not so many people tho | 14:53 |
| Lava_Croft | i'd say -testing is great for frequent, not completely bugtested updates | 14:54 |
| Lava_Croft | but thats just me | 14:54 |
| Jaffa | Lava_Croft: Well, until it hits -testing the only testing is the developer or anyone who's rebuilt the package from gitorious (i.e. not much testing at all) | 14:54 |
| Lava_Croft | Jaffa: yeah | 14:54 |
| Lava_Croft | And I think anyone who uses the CSSU is fairly aware of the possible breakage that comes from being a glorified bugtester:> | 14:55 |
| * Jaffa thinks zoom_on_press=1 should only happen when tapping on the desktop to drag/activate the maintenance menu. Not the task navigator, not applications' menu and not the close button. | 14:55 | |
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| Lava_Croft | heh that zoom_on_press | 14:58 |
| Lava_Croft | looks a bit silly on the desktop | 14:58 |
| Lava_Croft | or everywhere | 14:58 |
| Lava_Croft | this should be done in a better manner, if only i know what is better | 14:59 |
| Lava_Croft | hmm | 15:00 |
| Lava_Croft | seems the Phone application quit autorotating | 15:00 |
| Lava_Croft | ill usually when closing the keyboard, the phone app would go into portrait mode | 15:01 |
| Lava_Croft | it quit doing that | 15:01 |
| Lava_Croft | hmm, the zoom_on_press is weird at first, but one gets used to it fairly quickly | 15:03 |
| MohammadAG | Lava_Croft, I still test before sending, so "bricks" are very minimal, if any | 15:06 |
| Lava_Croft | MohammadAG: to put it simply: I agreed to possible bricking by installing CSSU | 15:06 |
| Lava_Croft | Its inconvenient, but nothing big at all | 15:06 |
| Lava_Croft | also, I think the phone app not rotating is a bug | 15:07 |
| Lava_Croft | just need it confirmed | 15:07 |
| MohammadAG | reboot | 15:07 |
| Lava_Croft | hard reboot? | 15:07 |
| MohammadAG | actually | 15:07 |
| MohammadAG | how did you install? HAM? | 15:07 |
| Lava_Croft | it did a soft reboot after installing the update | 15:07 |
| Lava_Croft | yes | 15:07 |
| Lava_Croft | always ham, on your recommendation | 15:07 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 15:07 |
| MohammadAG | did you killall hildon-desktop? | 15:08 |
| Lava_Croft | yes | 15:08 |
| Lava_Croft | once | 15:08 |
| Lava_Croft | to get zoom_on_press working | 15:08 |
| Lava_Croft | should reboot before venturing further? | 15:08 |
| MohammadAG | that doesn't need a killall anyway | 15:08 |
| Lava_Croft | o | 15:08 |
| MohammadAG | killall breaks rotation | 15:08 |
| Lava_Croft | thats what the wiki states (i think) | 15:08 |
| Lava_Croft | ah | 15:08 |
| MohammadAG | even on stock | 15:08 |
| MohammadAG | it tries to rotate | 15:09 |
| * Lava_Croft reboots | 15:09 | |
| MohammadAG | not sure if you noticed, so it flickers a bit | 15:09 |
| Lava_Croft | it was iffy here, the rotation | 15:09 |
| Lava_Croft | yes | 15:09 |
| MohammadAG | it tries to rotate but fails, no idea why | 15:09 |
| Lava_Croft | MohammadAG: I guess your biggest problem with bugtesting is the combination of 3rd party application X in combination with CSSU. right? | 15:10 |
| Lava_Croft | i can imagine bugtesting it all is nigh impossible | 15:10 |
| MohammadAG | I only test stuff that I know might break with changes | 15:11 |
| Lava_Croft | also non-stock apps? | 15:11 |
| Lava_Croft | (that would be crazy, but wonderful) | 15:11 |
| Jaffa | Lava_Croft: Feel free to add crowd-sourced test scripts to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/QA | 15:12 |
| MohammadAG | no, I mean, if I change something that has to do with rotation, then I test that in apps that do it properly | 15:12 |
| MohammadAG | (this is before release) | 15:13 |
| Lava_Croft | Jaffa: i was talking more in general :> | 15:13 |
| Lava_Croft | I dont have the skills to write such scripts | 15:13 |
| Lava_Croft | MohammadAG: ah, i get it | 15:13 |
| Jaffa | Lava_Croft: What do you think the skills are? | 15:13 |
| Lava_Croft | Jaffa: I have above average computer skills, but no writing skills for scripts orso | 15:14 |
| Lava_Croft | my technical knowledge is too small | 15:14 |
| Lava_Croft | or interest in it | 15:14 |
| Jaffa | Lava_Croft: The requirement for writing test scripts is methodicalness, not technicalness. | 15:14 |
| Lava_Croft | im like an overly curious end-user | 15:14 |
| MohammadAG | Lava_Croft, take that further | 15:14 |
| MohammadAG | I didn't know what "ls" did when I got the N900 :p | 15:15 |
| Lava_Croft | oh, i did | 15:15 |
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| MohammadAG | shell scripting is easy | 15:15 |
| Lava_Croft | but the problem is my general disinterest for coding/writing stuff:> | 15:15 |
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| Lava_Croft | i got as far as making maps for Quake3, but then writing the shaders for the maps was already annoying me greatly:> | 15:15 |
| Jaffa | Lava_Croft: Writing English? | 15:16 |
| Lava_Croft | writing anything:> | 15:16 |
| Lava_Croft | but those scripts, hmm | 15:17 |
| Lava_Croft | You mean that the Test Scripts section of http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/QA is like an example Test Script that could also be written for other applications? | 15:18 |
| Lava_Croft | to test their workings with cssu | 15:19 |
| Jaffa | Correct | 15:19 |
| Lava_Croft | and the one on the website is the only one currently written and publicly available? | 15:19 |
| Jaffa | The only one written, publicly or not. | 15:20 |
| Lava_Croft | ok | 15:20 |
| Lava_Croft | i bookmarked the page, since this might indeed be interesting | 15:20 |
| Lava_Croft | and useful | 15:20 |
| Lava_Croft | since i cant code for shit, but stuff like this should be possible | 15:20 |
| Lava_Croft | i must admit that at this moment, after my last workday of the week, this does sound like work | 15:22 |
| Jaffa | :-) | 15:22 |
| Lava_Croft | i should ignore this and look at it again tomorrow | 15:22 |
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| Lava_Croft | also, i dont know if this is supposed to be part of the CSSU | 15:34 |
| Lava_Croft | but some way to turn off wifi without having to install a 3rd party app would be nice | 15:34 |
| Lava_Croft | you can turn off BT too, for example | 15:34 |
| Jaffa | Lava_Croft: If it can be sensibly implemented by a third party app, it wouldn't need to be implemented as part of the CSSU | 15:38 |
| Lava_Croft | ah, ok | 15:39 |
| Lava_Croft | well, the status menu button from wifi-switcher kind of does the job | 15:39 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, incoming call dialog works, sorta | 15:42 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: shiny | 15:46 |
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| MohammadAG | Jaffa, now it works properly, just need to get rid of the system() and translate it to C++ | 15:56 |
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| MohammadAG | I wonder where the source for CepiPerez's hildon-home is | 17:54 |
| * merlin1991 goes to update 12.1 to the changelog | 17:55 | |
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| MohammadAG | merlin1991, don't forget 12.5 | 17:58 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 17:58 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, 12.1 was minor | 17:58 |
| merlin1991 | what came with 12.5? | 17:58 |
| MohammadAG | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/changelog :p | 17:59 |
| Sc0rpius | why 12.3 and not 13? | 18:00 |
| Sc0rpius | err 12.5 | 18:00 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG, are you sure you didn't forget an update in the changelog this time? :D | 18:00 |
| MohammadAG | Sc0rpius, minor, no major changes | 18:01 |
| MohammadAG | at least to users | 18:02 |
| MohammadAG | gitorious.org down? | 18:02 |
| merlin1991 | hm for some reason cron didn't run apt-mirror | 18:02 |
| merlin1991 | nope it's up | 18:02 |
| MohammadAG | We are sorry, but something went wrong. | 18:02 |
| merlin1991 | strange, but I updated to 12.5 and now the launcher and control-panel is slow as hell | 18:05 |
| merlin1991 | when I focus the control-panel window the cpu maxes out @ 100% | 18:05 |
| MohammadAG | Nokia-N900:~# uptime | 18:06 |
| merlin1991 | now I went back to conky and the status menu didn't come back and the taskswitcher button stayed a launcher button | 18:06 |
| MohammadAG | 18:06:29 up 2:43, load average: 0.16, 0.08, 0.07 | 18:06 |
| MohammadAG | check top | 18:06 |
| merlin1991 | 17:07:20 up 5 min, load average: 1.09, 1.07, 00.52 | 18:07 |
| MohammadAG | dmesg | grep SGX | 18:08 |
| * MohammadAG expects Hardware SGX Recovery triggered | 18:08 | |
| merlin1991 | as soon as my xterm is responsive again :D | 18:08 |
| MohammadAG | ssh? :P | 18:08 |
| merlin1991 | wireless router too far from this desk, impossible | 18:09 |
| merlin1991 | exactly what you exprected | 18:09 |
| merlin1991 | what does that mean / wth is hardware sgx recovery? | 18:09 |
| MohammadAG | kernel driver breaking down, reboot | 18:09 |
| MohammadAG | it's a bug Nokia isn't fixing | 18:10 |
| MohammadAG | tbh, I doubt they can, it's TI's driver | 18:10 |
| merlin1991 | what causes it? | 18:10 |
| Venemo | the dark side of the force causesit | 18:10 |
| Venemo | like with all bugs | 18:10 |
| MohammadAG | bug 9150 | 18:10 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/9150 Device doesn't respond via UI. syslog reports HWRecoveryResetSGX: SGX Hardware Recovery triggered, sgx_misr eating all CPU | 18:10 |
| merlin1991 | Venemo, ah the guys with the cookies, I see | 18:10 |
| merlin1991 | does crond create a log somewhere? | 18:11 |
| merlin1991 | trying to find out why it didn't apt-mirror on my server | 18:11 |
| merlin1991 | "Minor UI change for libcpaboutcssu" I didn't notice anything :D | 18:12 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, \n added | 18:12 |
| merlin1991 | lol | 18:12 |
| Sc0rpius | hehe | 18:16 |
| merlin1991 | hm my syslog is full of this: http://pastebin.com/u3s8B00K | 18:17 |
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| MohammadAG | heh http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=955302&postcount=1235 | 18:25 |
| merlin1991 | if anyone is interested, the stuff in my syslog comes from the fact, that my server hwclock is way off .D | 18:34 |
| merlin1991 | I also found out why the apt-mirror cronjob didn't work, I made the mistake of running apt-mirror as root the first time, but had the cronjob as user apt-mirror | 18:39 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: What does -1 do? Puts the bg in front of the desktop? | 18:40 |
| Jaffa | Oh, slides opposite direction | 18:40 |
| MohammadAG | -1.5 is better | 18:41 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG, 2 days of activity on extras-devel generated another gb of package data for my apt-mirror | 18:42 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 18:42 |
| MohammadAG | heh | 18:43 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG, you didn't push the libaboutcssu change to gitorious | 18:44 |
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| MohammadAG | merlin1991, gitorious was killing my connection | 18:46 |
| merlin1991 | :/ | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | $IP closed connection | 18:46 |
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| merlin1991 | Forced hildon-home's maximum number of desktops to 9 was there a bug for that on the bugtracker? | 18:49 |
| merlin1991 | I think I remember one, but I'm not sure | 18:49 |
| MohammadAG | no | 18:50 |
| MohammadAG | it only affected some users | 18:50 |
| * merlin1991 needs to try zoom_on_press | 18:57 | |
| merlin1991 | damn it, I need R&D mode watchdog's gonna kill me :D | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | doesn't need a restart :p | 18:59 |
| merlin1991 | and I just kill-alled :D# | 18:59 |
| merlin1991 | I should have looked at the code first | 18:59 |
| merlin1991 | it's obivious from the code :P | 18:59 |
| MohammadAG | indeed :p | 19:00 |
| merlin1991 | doesn't work well thought when you press too fast | 19:00 |
| merlin1991 | also isn't that a possible performance problem checking the ini on each press? | 19:00 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: merlin1991: Sc0rpius: and other contributors, please feel free to disagree http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=955342#post955342 regarding donations | 19:01 |
| * Jaffa is having enough of a headache worrying about council money pot for maemo.org running | 19:01 | |
| merlin1991 | Jaffa, agreed | 19:01 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, you see my thanks there | 19:02 |
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| zogg_ | and i think you guys need donations =) | 19:02 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Indeed :) | 19:02 |
| Jaffa | zogg_: Donate code, time or documentation. | 19:02 |
| Jaffa | ...or bug reports. | 19:02 |
| MohammadAG | zogg_, I was considering a donate button in one app, but with the CSSU I dropped that thought :P | 19:02 |
| MohammadAG | I agree with Jaffa | 19:03 |
| zogg_ | i'm not dev, don't have much time (coz of it maybe i woyld be thrown from colledge) =( | 19:03 |
| Jaffa | zogg_: Doesn't take much to caretake a wiki (for example, I've spruced up Community_SSU/Features/Portrait_mode, but that was easier than doing it from scratch | 19:04 |
| Jaffa | zogg_: Or try and replicate bugs which other people have (http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs) | 19:04 |
| merlin1991 | ffs my net fails just when I want to push my change to the wiki | 19:04 |
| zogg_ | Jaffa do we have documantation that says what documentation is missing? =) | 19:04 |
| merlin1991 | or maemo.org fails | 19:04 |
| merlin1991 | dunno :D | 19:04 |
| Jaffa | zogg_: Feel free to start it! ;-) | 19:05 |
| zogg_ | Jaffa btw i can be wiki page created that not everyone can change? | 19:05 |
| zogg_ | i want to do something? | 19:06 |
| MohammadAG | then it wouldn't be a wiki :p | 19:06 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG, Jaffa: what do you think about the layout for the minor releases? http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#PR_1.3.3.7-6 | 19:06 |
| Jaffa | I know no-one's started on the marketing strategy once stable is released (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=955196&postcount=1212) | 19:06 |
| zogg_ | i'll explaine | 19:07 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, do you recall the post about replacing the incoming call dialog? | 19:07 |
| Jaffa | merlin1991: Looks good. Perhaps needs additional blank lines to separate them a bit? | 19:07 |
| zogg_ | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=69012 - i want to do that one | 19:07 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Not OTTOMH :-( | 19:07 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, indeed, add a separator, also, the rotation fix was for hildon-desktop | 19:08 |
| MohammadAG | :) | 19:08 |
| merlin1991 | ooops | 19:08 |
| merlin1991 | true | 19:08 |
| zogg_ | sorry had timeout http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=69012 - i want to do this one, but don't want to make it aviable for change for everyone, otherwise there would be scams | 19:09 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 19:13 |
| zogg_ | ? | 19:13 |
| MohammadAG | ask dneary I guess | 19:13 |
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| ThreeM | Forced hildon-home's maximum number of desktops to 9 <- mean i have permanenly 9 desktops without the option do deaktivate some? | 19:14 |
| zogg_ | MohammadAG ok what is his nick on forum? | 19:14 |
| MohammadAG | he's dneary on #maemo :p | 19:15 |
| zogg_ | MohammadAG, i know. i'm not always there though so when he asnwers i might be somewhere else =) | 19:15 |
| merlin1991 | ThreeM, no, it just means that you can't have the only 4 dekstops in the select dialog bug | 19:16 |
| ThreeM | superb :D | 19:16 |
| merlin1991 | the changelog is in the hildon-home part --> the menu and not the desktop, bug I guess for the normal user we should replace that text so it's more clear | 19:17 |
| merlin1991 | s/bug/but/ | 19:17 |
| merlin1991 | Force the number of selectable desktops to 9 to circumvent a bug where the selection only allowed 4 sound good I guess | 19:18 |
| merlin1991 | hell there's got to be a way to add tabs to a text in the wiki, damn it | 19:19 |
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| Jaffa | merlin1991: Table? || Bug || Description || ? | 19:21 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG, why not make it a page on tmo? | 19:22 |
| Jaffa | Why not make it editable, watch it and stamp on it? | 19:22 |
| ZogG | MohammadAG asking dneary now | 19:22 |
| MohammadAG | Be aware, this is a big responsibility | 19:22 |
| Jaffa | Enormous. | 19:22 |
| MohammadAG | and you're not the only one is israel :P | 19:22 |
| ZogG | Jaffa as everyone can change donation link to them selves =)_ | 19:22 |
| ZogG | you know i don't trust people | 19:22 |
| * MohammadAG nods | 19:23 | |
| * merlin1991 is trying a different layout now | 19:23 | |
| Jaffa | ZogG: But with a locked down page, do people trust *you* ;-) | 19:24 |
| ZogG | Jaffa, as i'm the only one (i hope there would be several people who can change) you can see who changed and that way you can know if i'm scam or not, while anon change would not reveal who changed and noone to blame | 19:25 |
| MohammadAG | what would be best is a page that can be appended to, but not modified | 19:25 |
| MohammadAG | except by the one who moderates that area | 19:25 |
| * MohammadAG wonders who put the downddate tag on the tmo post | 19:27 | |
| MohammadAG | it was stenny's times afaik lol | 19:27 |
| Jaffa | stenny t. troll | 19:27 |
| ZogG | MohammadAG yes that's what i'm suggesting | 19:27 |
| merlin1991 | wiki.maemo.org seems to be ultraslow | 19:28 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, seen matan lately? | 19:28 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: No. Thank goodness | 19:29 |
| Sc0rpius | the best way to collaborate right now is to reverse language files of Modest :) | 19:29 |
| Jaffa | :-) | 19:30 |
| MohammadAG | heh | 19:30 |
| Sc0rpius | I will have to do that eventually since I have added strings | 19:31 |
| Sc0rpius | and then people can contribute fixing bad translations of Nokia, I've heard there are some | 19:31 |
| ThreeM | language files are closed?! | 19:31 |
| thp | ThreeM: yes, but you can msgunfmt them to get the source. so it's more of a political issue than a technical one | 19:32 |
| ThreeM | ahh k | 19:32 |
| Sc0rpius | how you guys take screenshots in portrait mode? | 19:35 |
| Sc0rpius | if I slide the keyboard to press Ctrl Shift P it goes to landscape as expected | 19:36 |
| MohammadAG | don't slide it fully | 19:36 |
| Sc0rpius | hmm dirty trick that worked | 19:37 |
| MohammadAG | does anyone think what theme-customizer's doing isn't right? | 19:39 |
| Sc0rpius | http://ompldr.org/vN2s1Nw | 19:39 |
| merlin1991 | what does it do actually? | 19:39 |
| Sc0rpius | indentation is customizable via gconf anyway | 19:39 |
| MohammadAG | Sc0rpius, cool | 19:40 |
| MohammadAG | ETA? :) | 19:40 |
| Sc0rpius | :) | 19:40 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, replaces hildon-home | 19:40 |
| merlin1991 | Sc0rpius, looks great | 19:40 |
| Sc0rpius | well I still have 3 bugs to fix | 19:40 |
| merlin1991 | Sc0rpius, does it work with mail for exchange too? | 19:40 |
| Sc0rpius | I suppose, but I don't have an account to test | 19:40 |
| merlin1991 | I can do that testing for you if you want to support that too | 19:41 |
| MohammadAG | theme-customizer's source is 1.7MBs | 19:41 |
| MohammadAG | so the dev either wrote a huge source, or it contains binaries | 19:41 |
| MohammadAG | since it doesn't build depend on libqt4-dev but uses Qt... | 19:42 |
| merlin1991 | well let's have a look at the source :D | 19:42 |
| Lava_Croft | rezising desktop bookmarks <3 | 19:42 |
| Lava_Croft | sizing* | 19:42 |
| MohammadAG | tsk tsk tsk | 19:43 |
| MohammadAG | it has binaries, and hildon-home's source | 19:43 |
| Lava_Croft | it provides some custom hildon-home | 19:43 |
| Lava_Croft | iirc | 19:43 |
| MohammadAG | then I should Conflict: with it | 19:43 |
| MohammadAG | it's breaking the CSSU metapackage then | 19:43 |
| Lava_Croft | idk if it conflicts | 19:44 |
| MohammadAG | well, if it's replacing hildon-home, then yes, it conflicts | 19:44 |
| Lava_Croft | - Thanks to CepiPerez for custom hildon-home binary. | 19:44 |
| merlin1991 | gotta go bbl | 19:45 |
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| MohammadAG | oh, it replaces the hildon-home binary, not the package | 19:45 |
| MohammadAG | dirty trick :/ | 19:45 |
| Lava_Croft | i suspected that:> | 19:45 |
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| MohammadAG | I can merge patches upstream, or he can merge our patches downstream, but right now, having a conflict isn't right | 19:46 |
| Lava_Croft | sane | 19:47 |
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| Sc0rpius | "Don't add it yet. I'll release a compatible version of TC later today. I'll just disable the resize function until it's included in CSSU. I still don't know how to provide the changes file for you guys to add it to your hildon-home :( | 20:25 |
| Sc0rpius | " | 20:25 |
| Sc0rpius | so the theme-customizer dev said | 20:25 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: the slide to unlock concept is nice, but please, please let wazd design some cool artwork for it - the default slider looks just horrible for that ;) | 23:20 |
| Sc0rpius | haha yeah well that was a PoC | 23:24 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, I know, the default slider sucks :) | 23:35 |
| MohammadAG | thp, I was thinking of making it animated | 23:35 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: why animated? | 23:41 |
| MohammadAG | thp, the GPU's idle during an incoming call anyway | 23:42 |
| thp | just good artwork should be enough :) the system is already very busy when a call comes in (it always rotates at the exact moment I want to press th answer button) | 23:42 |
| MohammadAG | if only Nokia added two softkeys :) | 23:43 |
| thp | ..and a trackball :) | 23:45 |
| MohammadAG | and a function button with no functionality from the start | 23:45 |
| MohammadAG | something devs could use | 23:45 |
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| thp | would be cool, but i can see those noobish bloggers and reviewers nagging about that "useless button" when the device comes out | 23:49 |
| MohammadAG | well, Nokia could've assigned it to self destruct | 23:50 |
| MohammadAG | then stuck a do not touch label, see who's curious enough | 23:51 |
| MohammadAG | arcean, any progress on MafwPlaylistManager or should I start on it? | 23:52 |
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