| arcean | MohammadAG, yeah i'm working on it | 00:01 |
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| arcean | but, as for now, i'm trying to fix portrait mode for pdf viewer | 00:01 |
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| MohammadAG | Sc0rpius, possible workaround for half-cut text in portrait mode (New Message view) is to set the pannable area to scroll horizontally | 00:09 |
| MohammadAG | which works well, shall I commit? | 00:09 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:04 |
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| Jaffa | Sc0rpius: Toolbar thoughts for Modest: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=955748&postcount=1318 | 11:24 |
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| Jaffa | My attempt at gimping up the background for portrait mode HAM: http://twitpic.com/43wtqe | 12:07 |
| Jaffa | See bug 11986 | 12:07 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/11986 Add "alpha" and "beta" theme portrait versions of Application Manager's background | 12:07 |
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| Jaffa | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager/merge_requests/2 - portrait support for HAM for the two built-in themes | 13:58 |
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| MohammadAG | Jaffa, cool | 14:01 |
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| merlin1991 | Jaffa, MohammadAG what do you think of this layout for the changelog? http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog_layouttest | 14:36 |
| * MohammadAG wonders where those yellow notifications are | 14:36 | |
| Lava_Croft | that will become a rather large page | 14:37 |
| Lava_Croft | MohammadAG: I have to admit, the zoom_on_press is pretty damn neat once you get used to it | 14:38 |
| MohammadAG | nah, we'll all go away when the next WP7 device comes out | 14:38 |
| Lava_Croft | it provides a very good feedback | 14:38 |
| MohammadAG | :P | 14:38 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, cool | 14:38 |
| Lava_Croft | now my iphone toting wife wants it too | 14:38 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, maybe add Packages | changes? | 14:38 |
| MohammadAG | (to the top table) | 14:38 |
| Lava_Croft | wont that page become really long after a while? | 14:39 |
| Lava_Croft | maybe split it up in several pages by then | 14:39 |
| merlin1991 | Lava_Croft, compare it to | 14:39 |
| merlin1991 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog | 14:39 |
| merlin1991 | it's actually shorter than the current version | 14:39 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG, just the top table or all tables? dunno what would be better | 14:40 |
| Lava_Croft | Im not comparing it to the original, i was talking in general | 14:40 |
| Lava_Croft | it certainly is better than the original, far more readable | 14:40 |
| merlin1991 | yea it's true the we eventally have to move to seperate pages | 14:41 |
| merlin1991 | but atm it isn't too much information so I'd like to keep it in one place | 14:41 |
| Lava_Croft | yeah | 14:42 |
| Lava_Croft | maybe link to the features page where thp's patches for transitions.ini are mentioned | 14:43 |
| Lava_Croft | that way you can skip the one-sentence tutorial | 14:44 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog_layouttest#PR_1.3.3.7-1 | 14:46 |
| Jaffa | merlin1991: It looks, erm, a little blank to me | 15:13 |
| merlin1991 | Jaffa, I moved it into the main one already :) | 15:14 |
| merlin1991 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog | 15:14 |
| Jaffa | merlin1991: Ah :-) | 15:14 |
| merlin1991 | I'm open for critique :) | 15:15 |
| * Jaffa goes to try something on ..._layouttest | 15:15 | |
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| Jaffa | merlin1991: See http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog_layouttest | 15:17 |
| Jaffa | merlin1991: I've included the "internal" version as a title to the table, and specified a width on the package column. That'd mean each of the tables would have the same ratio | 15:17 |
| Jaffa | merlin1991: I'd also suggest that the packages were listed in alphabetical order for each version?\ | 15:18 |
| merlin1991 | 10-4 on all of that :) | 15:22 |
| merlin1991 | but now I have to go for lunch, I'll add that changes afterwards | 15:23 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: thp: Added a patch which can be cleanly applied against Conversations' CSS on bug 11976 | 15:29 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/11976 viewing sms conversations in portrait mode without horizontal scrolling (patch) | 15:29 |
| merlin1991 | crap, I'm getting old, found a white hair on my head :/ | 16:14 |
| merlin1991 | and I'm not even 20 ffs | 16:14 |
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| merlin1991 | Jaffa, what resolution is your screen? | 16:22 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, hmm, why is beta-background 800x424? | 16:26 |
| MohammadAG | noticed it after the merge | 16:26 |
| Jaffa | merlin1991: which screen' | 16:29 |
| merlin1991 | the one you work with, I wonder how well the layout works on lower resolution | 16:29 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Oh, hmm | 16:29 |
| Jaffa | merlin1991: Usually my browser window is about 1000x1000px | 16:30 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: is it not 480x724? | 16:31 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: I could've copied the wrong file | 16:31 |
| merlin1991 | Jaffa I've fixed the column width, but I didn't add the "internal" version to the table header because this way we'd have a huge space after the version headline | 16:36 |
| merlin1991 | and atm I'm tackling the alphabetic order :) | 16:37 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Bollocks. Copied the original background file. | 16:37 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, heh | 16:39 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: I'll get the new one. Hell, I may even do it properly rather than just re-tinting the 'alpha' one | 16:41 |
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| merlin1991 | packages are in alphabetical order now :) | 16:45 |
| Jaffa | merlin1991: Cool | 16:46 |
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| merlin1991 | MohammadAG, you might want to try to push libaboutcssu to gitorious again | 17:14 |
| MohammadAG | pushed | 17:15 |
| merlin1991 | thx | 17:15 |
| MohammadAG | pushed HAM | 17:16 |
| merlin1991 | waah git source is out of sync with repository source | 17:21 |
| merlin1991 | or in other words, the updated debian changelog commit on ham is older than the bg commit :D | 17:21 |
| MohammadAG | :/ | 17:21 |
| merlin1991 | now it looks like the bg is already part of 1:2.2.72-3 | 17:22 |
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| MohammadAG | mohammad@mohammad-i5laptop:~$ dmesg | grep "NVRM: os_raise_smp_barrier(), invalid context\!" | wc -l | 17:23 |
| MohammadAG | 228 | 17:23 |
| MohammadAG | grr | 17:23 |
| merlin1991 | what is os_raise_smp_barrier() even? | 17:24 |
| MohammadAG | something caused by nvidia drivers | 17:28 |
| Venemo | why the hell does the community ssu enabler open HAM? | 17:28 |
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| MohammadAG | cause users have to use HAM for updates | 17:29 |
| Venemo | wut? why? | 17:29 |
| merlin1991 | fapman doesn't act properly | 17:29 |
| Venemo | I want apt-get | 17:30 |
| MohammadAG | have a look at the thread on tmo, I doubt those users can apt-get | 17:30 |
| MohammadAG | you're free to killall apt-worker and use apt-gt | 17:30 |
| MohammadAG | get | 17:30 |
| Venemo | you are right | 17:30 |
| Venemo | :P | 17:30 |
| Venemo | I have some improvement ideas for HAM btw | 17:31 |
| * MohammadAG wonders how to cleanly exit X | 17:31 | |
| Venemo | killall Xorg | 17:31 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG, /sbin/poweroff ;) | 17:31 |
| MohammadAG | that restarts it Venemo | 17:31 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, I still want the laptop to be on :p | 17:31 |
| Venemo | is that okay if my N900 reboots after the CSSU is installed? | 17:31 |
| MohammadAG | You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing. | 17:31 |
| MohammadAG | HAM reboots it, yes | 17:32 |
| Venemo | great | 17:32 |
| MohammadAG | it should actually warn you | 17:32 |
| Venemo | where is my desktop press feedback? | 17:32 |
| MohammadAG | read warnings, they're not the usual Yada yada | 17:32 |
| MohammadAG | edit transitions.ini | 17:32 |
| Jaffa | Venemo: Enabled through transitions.ini | 17:32 |
| Venemo | btw, I discovered that if I only leave 2 repos active, HAM is a lot faster | 17:33 |
| MohammadAG | sure, it has to parse less lists | 17:33 |
| Venemo | also, I have some improvement ideas for it | 17:33 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, do you know C/Gtk? | 17:33 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: I know both separately ;-) | 17:33 |
| MohammadAG | so if I supposedly implement forced rotation with gconf, can you handle the status menu plugin? | 17:34 |
| MohammadAG | (orientation lock that is) | 17:34 |
| Venemo | where is the transitions.ini exactly? | 17:35 |
| MohammadAG | /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transitions.ini | 17:35 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: So, not the same as forcerotation=1 in transitions.ini? This is preventing apps which support switching from switching? But those that don't stay in their natural orientation? | 17:36 |
| * Jaffa also thought about looking at h-d forcerotation=2 (proposed new default, which means "do it for closed source apps we know it works on, from whitelist" | 17:36 | |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, more like force to landscape, force to portrait, or auto | 17:36 |
| Venemo | and where's this effect in that file? | 17:37 |
| MohammadAG | zoom_on_press | 17:37 |
| MohammadAG | in [home] | 17:37 |
| MohammadAG | force to landscape and auto are easiest to implement obviously | 17:37 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: I don't want that ;-) I want a proper orientation lock for the apps which support it. Not force to portrait for everything. I'd be reluctant to expose "force portrait" in places we know it'll be broken... | 17:38 |
| arcean | it would be possible to provide patched Hildon FM library? | 17:38 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, force landscape and auto then | 17:39 |
| Venemo | ha! | 17:39 |
| Venemo | blurless rulz | 17:39 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, same as with the iPhone, it locks to default orientation (though it's portrait in the iPhone's case) | 17:39 |
| MohammadAG | it's landscape in ours | 17:39 |
| MohammadAG | arcean, sure, it's FOSS after all | 17:39 |
| arcean | as it would be nice if we could patch HildonFileDetailsDialog (for horizontal scrolling) | 17:39 |
| arcean | it's used in osso-pdv-viewer and i'm sure many others | 17:40 |
| arcean | s/pdv/pdf | 17:40 |
| MohammadAG | guint hibernation_key; | 17:43 |
| MohammadAG | gboolean can_hibernate : 1; | 17:43 |
| MohammadAG | interesting | 17:43 |
| MohammadAG | hd-comp-mgr.c: In function 'lp_forecast': | 18:06 |
| MohammadAG | hd-comp-mgr.c:1083: warning: suggest parentheses around && within || | 18:06 |
| * MohammadAG wonders what that means | 18:06 | |
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| MohammadAG | ah, a warning | 18:08 |
| MohammadAG | damn -Werror | 18:08 |
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| arcean | ok, we have fully working osso-pdf-viewer in portrait mode | 18:19 |
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| arcean | later, i'll create repo@gitorious and commit changes | 18:20 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Attached fixed background to bug 11986 | 18:21 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/11986 Add "alpha" and "beta" theme portrait versions of Application Manager's background | 18:21 |
| Jaffa | arcean: Cool | 18:22 |
| Jaffa | arcean: Can you find the original PR1.3 sources (preferably in git, or at least the source package) for MohammadAG to import? | 18:22 |
| MohammadAG | source package is probably in maemo's repos, not sure if a git page exists | 18:23 |
| Jaffa | Indeed. Not sure I've seen one | 18:24 |
| * MohammadAG wonders how this priv thing works in C | 18:24 | |
| arcean | MohammadAG: you will have to rebuild libcomapp as osso-pdf-viewer needs libcomapp0-dev | 18:25 |
| arcean | which is not available in our repos | 18:25 |
| MohammadAG | arcean, raise a bug or just send me URLs | 18:29 |
| MohammadAG | if I want to use gconf several times in a file, shouldn't I put it in the private part? | 18:30 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, orientation lock working, wanna make a single check button in the status menu to enable/disable it? | 18:47 |
| MohammadAG | it's landscape only of course | 18:47 |
| MohammadAG | thp, are you aware of any method that can refresh the window rotation? | 18:50 |
| MohammadAG | something that can be connected to gconf's value changed signal | 18:50 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Will look at doing so | 18:57 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, looking into it atm | 18:57 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, I was thinking of a checkbox, but that would look ugly | 18:57 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, so I thought of a Hildon Button (with value showing lock status) | 18:57 |
| thp | MohammadAG: haven't found something, but check what the handler for ctrl+shift+r does | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | value = Hildon Button Value, or whatever it's called | 18:58 |
| thp | (as it somehow has to "recalculate" the rotation from the flags on the window) | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | good point | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | thanks :) | 18:58 |
| thp | :) | 19:00 |
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| arcean | MohammadAG: source of osso-pdf-viewer: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/o/osso-pdf-viewer/ | 19:08 |
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| arcean | and libcomapp: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/libc/libcomapp/ | 19:13 |
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| MohammadAG | Jaffa, can you come up with an icon for the status bar? | 20:01 |
| MohammadAG | something that indicates status in the bar (next to clock) | 20:01 |
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| MohammadAG | Jaffa, thp http://i53.tinypic.com/23ixqmh.jpg | 20:07 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: cool :) a special icon would be nice | 20:39 |
| MohammadAG | thp, I'm no designer :) | 20:40 |
| thp | MohammadAG: ask wazd :) | 20:40 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, haven't seen wazd here in a while :) | 20:42 |
| thp | MohammadAG: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thp4/5479679260/ | 20:42 |
| MohammadAG | the iPhone's one looks better than Android's :P (that is android right?) | 20:43 |
| thp | yep, that's android. how does the iOS one look? | 20:44 |
| thp | this one? http://media.tech-recipes.com/rx_images/iphone/ios4/iphone-lock-orientation.png | 20:44 |
| MohammadAG | why do I even bother taking a pic, iOS has a lot of screenshots | 20:45 |
| Lava_Croft | :> | 20:45 |
| Lava_Croft | i just thought the same | 20:45 |
| MohammadAG | there's also an icon at the top | 20:46 |
| MohammadAG | can't find that on google, lol | 20:47 |
| MohammadAG | oh cool, screenshot support in iOS, didn't know about that | 20:47 |
| Lava_Croft | i generally find ios a better experience than android | 20:47 |
| Lava_Croft | smoother | 20:47 |
| MohammadAG | iOS is smoother than all OSs | 20:48 |
| MohammadAG | but it's not as productive tbh | 20:48 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, http://i55.tinypic.com/fdex01.jpg | 20:48 |
| Lava_Croft | its good at what it does, only it doesnt do a whole lot | 20:48 |
| Lava_Croft | the games on it are becoming nicer and nicer tho | 20:49 |
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| MohammadAG | games aren't part of an OS though :) | 20:49 |
| Lava_Croft | yeah, but they are basically the only reason i touch iphones | 20:49 |
| Lava_Croft | :) | 20:49 |
| MohammadAG | Nokia's decision pretty much killed games games on MeeGo I guess | 20:49 |
| MohammadAG | wasn't EA interested in MeeGo? | 20:50 |
| Lava_Croft | no idea | 20:50 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: How big are status area icons? | 20:54 |
| MohammadAG | hmm, not sure, sec | 20:54 |
| MohammadAG | 18x18 it seems | 20:55 |
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| Jaffa | OK. | 20:55 |
| * MohammadAG double checks | 20:55 | |
| MohammadAG | yeah, 18x18 | 20:56 |
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| Jaffa | Presumably we want one for locked landscape and one for locked portrait (future use) | 20:56 |
| MohammadAG | 48x48 for the menu icons | 20:56 |
| Jaffa | And nothing for auto | 20:56 |
| MohammadAG | yep | 20:56 |
| MohammadAG | we need one for the menu | 20:56 |
| MohammadAG | it doesn't have to be dynamic | 20:56 |
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| MohammadAG | Jaffa, one question, how do we patch something if it was changed? | 21:24 |
| MohammadAG | I mean, what if someone changed the conversation files | 21:25 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: You mean if someone... ah | 21:25 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Patch might fail (might not). Dunno what we should do. | 21:25 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, patch will fail if it's a major rewrite | 21:25 |
| MohammadAG | md5sum checks? | 21:26 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Ooh, good idea. | 21:26 |
| MohammadAG | we don't want postinst to fail if the md5sum check failed | 21:26 |
| Jaffa | Originals are: | 21:26 |
| Jaffa | andrew@serenity:~/src/scratchbox/cssu/rtcom-messaging-ui-patch/orig$ md5sum * | 21:26 |
| Jaffa | 7a1916040f70b1052c50ed3d1951085a MessagingWidgetsChatConversation.css | 21:26 |
| Jaffa | b831e3abe684d3f1199e6d34cbaeba60 MessagingWidgetsSMSConversation.css | 21:26 |
| MohammadAG | otherwise, we're pissing off a lot of users because of failed installs | 21:27 |
| Jaffa | Yeah, if modified, assume they already work | 21:27 |
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| MohammadAG | yep | 21:27 |
| MohammadAG | in postinst, we can check for modified md5sums | 21:27 |
| MohammadAG | postrm* | 21:27 |
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| MohammadAG | or we could store the modified md5sum somewhere and check that in postrm | 21:28 |
| MohammadAG | though a patch on a correct MD5 should result in the same modified md5 | 21:28 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Sent email with icons | 21:31 |
| Jaffa | Dunno what they look like on-screen. | 21:34 |
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| * MohammadAG wonders how to listen to gconf signals | 21:51 | |
| Jaffa | 48x48 icons now sent | 21:53 |
| MohammadAG | awesome | 21:55 |
| Jaffa | Not sure about the curve, but I like the concept. | 21:55 |
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| MohammadAG | I actually like portrait + landscape ones, auto, not very sure users would understand it | 21:57 |
| MohammadAG | also, shouldn't we have a lock for portrait + landscape? | 21:57 |
| Jaffa | You mean a padlock? | 21:57 |
| MohammadAG | general_locked http://www.forum.nokia.com/document/Maemo_5_Icon_List/html/control_panel.html | 21:58 |
| Jaffa | Perhaps. Maybe my shite ones will pull a wazd or similar out of the woodwork ;-) | 21:59 |
| MohammadAG | so he's still with maemo? :) | 22:00 |
| Jaffa | Who knows | 22:00 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, tbh, I think it's a long time away from portrait lock | 22:04 |
| MohammadAG | we can't add it until the desktop supports portrait | 22:05 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Sure we can. Anything that supports portrait is locked to it, anything which doesn't isn't. The desktop is included in the latter for now | 23:48 |
| MohammadAG | well, we'll see about that | 23:49 |
| MohammadAG | just experimenting with portrait hildon-home | 23:49 |
| Jaffa | Oh. Intriguing. | 23:50 |
| Jaffa | How are you thinking of tackling the relayout? Divide in two, anything with originX <= 400 goes on the top; anything originX > 400 goes on bottom? | 23:51 |
| Jaffa | Actually, that'd work better than I thought, because the width'll be 480, rather than 400. I'd thought that icons in the middle would be half off the screen, but they wouldn't. | 23:52 |
| MohammadAG | I'm not thinking about that atm :P | 23:53 |
| MohammadAG | just trying to get a concept | 23:53 |
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