| barzam | well now it does, but 5 minutes ago it didnt! I stand corrected then :) | 00:02 |
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| MohammadAG | Sc0rpius, I can't reproduce https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11821, should I close it as WORKSFORME? | 00:09 |
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| merlin_1991 | MohammadAG, I'm currently trying to reproduce | 00:25 |
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| merlin_1991 | tried with mail for exchange, worked perfectly fine | 00:27 |
| MohammadAG | you'd think I'd have noticed no notifications :P | 00:28 |
| MohammadAG | Closed | 00:29 |
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| Sc0rpius | as I stated in that bug | 00:48 |
| Sc0rpius | I think he has the notifications turned off and he never replied my comment | 00:48 |
| Sc0rpius | "Are you sure you have enabled the notifications in Modest?" | 00:49 |
| Sc0rpius | so anyway, I couldn't reproduce it either, and I'm pretty sure he had the notifications turned off | 00:49 |
| MohammadAG | changing parallax values in hildon-desktop is fun | 01:11 |
| MohammadAG | made it configurable http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/commit/aabd427d5d66500a23282c3d00e00e2363ae6a8c | 01:11 |
| Sc0rpius | why don't you put that in gconf | 01:13 |
| Sc0rpius | so people can change it using gconftool | 01:14 |
| Sc0rpius | oh it's via transitions.ini | 01:14 |
| Sc0rpius | I would migrate the whole transitions.ini to gconf | 01:15 |
| MohammadAG | I wouldn't | 01:15 |
| Sc0rpius | :( | 01:15 |
| MohammadAG | I like the fact that it defaults to a value if no file's found | 01:15 |
| MohammadAG | gconf can't do that right? | 01:15 |
| Sc0rpius | you do it in your code | 01:15 |
| Sc0rpius | if you can't find the value in gconf, you create it with the default value | 01:16 |
| MohammadAG | hd_transition_get_double("home", "parallax", 1.3) | 01:16 |
| MohammadAG | if it doesn't find the value, it uses 1.3 | 01:16 |
| merlin_1991 | I bet you can easily write wrapper functions to gconf that do exactly that | 01:54 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah actually Modest does that | 01:54 |
| Sc0rpius | and the nice thing is that you can change via gconf the values and you wouldn't need to kill -SIGHUP hildon-desktop to reload the configuration | 01:54 |
| Sc0rpius | the changes will be taken immediately | 01:55 |
| merlin_1991 | wait you can sighup h-d? | 01:55 |
| Sc0rpius | maybe not | 01:55 |
| Sc0rpius | hehe | 01:55 |
| Sc0rpius | actually I do killall hildon-desktop | 01:56 |
| merlin_1991 | h-d should listen for -usr1 just like dd does | 01:56 |
| merlin_1991 | i think apache does it too | 01:57 |
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| merlin_1991 | and yea I mistook sughup for sigusr1 :D | 01:59 |
| merlin_1991 | s/sughup/sighup/ | 01:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | why should any process use any changes in gconf automatically? don't you think it needs some signal from gconfd to the process as well? or is gconf so braindead you need to read the var each time you use it? and if that's how it works, why can 't you do same with any other arbitrary storage method holding your settings? | 04:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | the only thing that makes gconf special is the *central* daemon that's needed for a whole system to work, and which tends to be the bottleneck quite often, and sometimes eats CPU cycles for nuttin, just like PA does | 04:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | the big problem with gconf is you have no F*ing clue what to save, to copy, or to delete, as there's no obvious relation between the key in gconf and the program binary and associated directories | 04:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | you need a running gconfd to install / uninstall programs which is a mega PITA | 04:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | esp since gconfd depends on other rather complex system services you usually don't want around as well, when in system maintenance mode (init -s) | 04:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | how would you restore a borked program from a system backup you did last week, when that program depends on settings in gconf? | 04:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | nonono, I don't want to restore the whole machine to state of last week, including all the productive processes of 57 users in 9 user groups. Just restore that single program, as somebody broke it by a mishap update | 04:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | gconf quite frequently is a gashead's concept and the solution to problems nonexistent | 04:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | like "it doesn't need sighup" | 04:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | it ever occurred to you there might be situations where you *want* a dedicated command like kill -HUP to signal to a process that you're now done with that 23 config changes that need to be done atomically? How would you do this with gconfd? When this great tool doesn't need any such signal? | 04:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | hell - even a simple config file can be monitored via inotify, and I could save the new config all settings in one "save" or mv or cp command, no -sighup needed | 04:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | gconftool-2 otoh, is for sure tricky to convince to do changes on multiple keys in an atomic way | 04:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | basically there's exactly ONE usecase for gconf: config values that change frequently and are both written and read by a changing undefined set of processes | 04:47 |
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| Sc0rpius | ok that was a nice rant against gconf :) | 07:15 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:57 |
| MohammadAG | morning | 11:17 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, wouldn't it be illegal to include the CSS files? | 11:19 |
| MohammadAG | pondering a revert to PR1.3 tut | 11:26 |
| MohammadAG | though that would be time consuming | 11:26 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: I'd say we should only distribute patching packages for closed source stuff | 11:34 |
| Jaffa | Whether that's a binary patch or a text patch. | 11:34 |
| Jaffa | And then combination of dpkg-divert and patch in postinst/prerm as you say | 11:34 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, conversations is closed source | 11:35 |
| MohammadAG | even though the .css files are open, the license isn't GPL | 11:35 |
| Jaffa | Indeed. | 11:44 |
| Jaffa | But distributing a patch to the CSS files, and appying it automatically, is fine. | 11:45 |
| BCMM | is it at all possible for a .css to *not* be "open"? | 11:53 |
| Jaffa | BCMM: Could be obfuscated, or even stored in a binary/compressed format and decoded on load by the using program. | 11:54 |
| Jaffa | Which is how Nokia suggest QML files are made "non-open" | 11:55 |
| MohammadAG | well, they are open, they just can't be legally replaced | 11:57 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: No, replacing them is legal. | 11:59 |
| MohammadAG | really? | 11:59 |
| Jaffa | Of course. | 11:59 |
| MohammadAG | then why should be patching them? | 11:59 |
| Jaffa | Replacing something on a device you own is legal. | 11:59 |
| MohammadAG | heh | 11:59 |
| MohammadAG | I meant in debs | 11:59 |
| Jaffa | Right. let's be clear on terminology. | 12:00 |
| Jaffa | "Ship" - no. Unless they've basically been rewritten. | 12:00 |
| Jaffa | "Replace" - yes. But how to do, if we can't ship? | 12:00 |
| MohammadAG | patch | 12:00 |
| Jaffa | "Patch" - yes. Although the context will be copyrighted from the original file, it's small enough to not count as a violation. | 12:01 |
| Jaffa | s/violation/copyright violation/ | 12:01 |
| * Jaffa said this about forcerotation btw: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=953421&postcount=969 | 12:07 | |
| MohammadAG | the whitelist should be done asap imho | 12:10 |
| Jaffa | How would we identify the app? | 12:12 |
| Jaffa | Not sure I've ever done xwininfo on a Maemo 5 window | 12:13 |
| MohammadAG | surely there's a unique window ID | 12:16 |
| MohammadAG | You know | 12:17 |
| MohammadAG | as noobish as I may be in GLib and C, I'm starting on MafwPlaylist today | 12:17 |
| MohammadAG | how hard could it be :) | 12:17 |
| Jaffa | :-) | 12:18 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: But you don't want a unique, per-instance, window ID. | 12:19 |
| MohammadAG | yeah, I know | 12:19 |
| MohammadAG | Don't all apps have a unique ID? | 12:19 |
| MohammadAG | on X11 | 12:19 |
| MohammadAG | (I've never looked into X11 btw) | 12:19 |
| Jaffa | Typically things like "window class" can be used. | 12:22 |
| Jaffa | But it's been a whle. | 12:22 |
| MohammadAG | tbh, I was thinking a daemon should be made outside hildon-desktop | 12:24 |
| MohammadAG | but thp would know better here | 12:24 |
| BCMM | there is window class and window role, both names rather than numbers | 12:24 |
| BCMM | they should be unique to the application and to the specific window (e.g. close dialog), respectively | 12:25 |
| BCMM | (no i don't know X11; this just comes from setting up window-specific overrides with KWin) | 12:25 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Daemon and associated communication could slow rotation down even further. | 12:29 |
| Jaffa | BCMM: Indeed. But I've not looked at them in Fremantle. I remember looking at them in Bora/Chinook. | 12:30 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, I was thinking of something that would set the rotation flag, hildon-desktop wouldn't have to be patched | 12:30 |
| BCMM | it's Xorg... should be all the same as a desktop | 12:30 |
| BCMM | unless GTK and Qt on maemo are intentionally broken in that respect, or people have been writing stupid applications that all call themselves "foo" | 12:31 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 12:31 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: So, daemon watches for window being mapped, if it decides to, it sets the flag? | 12:32 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, daemon watches for windows, if the window is listed in a whitelist, set the portrait flag on it | 12:33 |
| MohammadAG | h-d would still do the rotation | 12:33 |
| MohammadAG | assuming the whitelist is kept on / (it would be a few kbs anyway), lag shouldn't happen | 12:33 |
| BCMM | surely that's a perfect example of the sort of thing a window manager normally does? | 12:34 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Doesn't need to reread the whitelist every time. Daemon should keep it in memory. | 12:36 |
| MohammadAG | well, that can be done too | 12:36 |
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| Jaffa | We're not talking something which is enormous ;-) | 12:37 |
| thp | hmm, is the messaging stuff that contains the CSS open source or closed? if closed, can we add a "messaging-portrait-support" package to the cssu that dpkg-diverts the css files? | 12:46 |
| Jaffa | thp: Yes. | 12:48 |
| Jaffa | See the bug ;-) | 12:48 |
| Jaffa | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11976 | 12:48 |
| povbot | Bug 11976: viewing sms conversations in portrait mode without horizontal scrolling (patch) | 12:48 |
| Jaffa | thp: that's the tech spec I outlined | 12:48 |
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| normaltusker | I can confirm tht the patch is working fine. Tried it out on my phone. | 13:14 |
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| thp | Jaffa: yay :) cool | 13:47 |
| thp | Jaffa: although i think it's preinst and postrm | 13:47 |
| thp | (because you have to divert *before* installing the file, and undivert *after* removing the file) | 13:48 |
| Jaffa | thp: The patch would be in /opt/messaging-portrait-support/css.patch (say). That's installed there by dpkg. Then, in postinst, you dpkg-divert /usr/share/something/foo.css to foo.css.orig and apply the patch to it to give you the new foo.css | 13:52 |
| thp | oh, yeah. because we can't ship the css and have to patch it "live" on the system? | 13:54 |
| thp | is that because of licensing problems? | 13:56 |
| thp | maybe we can write our own "free" css? ;) | 13:56 |
| thp | Jaffa: ^ | 13:58 |
| Lava_C | nice, patches are in | 14:03 |
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| Jaffa | thp: Indeed. Patching is first step; maybe we can get wazd to rewrite ;-) | 14:06 |
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| Lava_Croft | how come ham doesnt notice cssu update | 14:16 |
| BCMM | Lava_Croft: refresh? | 14:17 |
| Lava_Croft | BCMM: I pressed Update | 14:17 |
| BCMM | that's the one, yeah... | 14:17 |
| Lava_Croft | :) | 14:17 |
| MohammadAG | that doesn't always refresh fyi | 14:17 |
| Lava_Croft | o? | 14:18 |
| Lava_Croft | then how? | 14:18 |
| MohammadAG | tap the title bar then refresh | 14:18 |
| Lava_Croft | aah | 14:18 |
| Lava_Croft | strange behaviour, thanks | 14:18 |
| BCMM | on a related note, i know one shouldn't really apt-get upgrade, but is apt-get update always safe? | 14:18 |
| MohammadAG | probably | 14:18 |
| MohammadAG | I don't see a reason it shouldn't be safe | 14:19 |
| Lava_Croft | lolbug, MohammadAG | 14:19 |
| Lava_Croft | it works now, obviously | 14:19 |
| Lava_Croft | thanks | 14:19 |
| Lava_Croft | great work on the fix, people | 14:29 |
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| Lava_Croft | this CSSU is just what we (n900 users) needed | 14:31 |
| Lava_Croft | so i guess everybody is all rage about nokiams? | 14:31 |
| Lava_Croft | (I am not) | 14:31 |
| MohammadAG | nah | 14:32 |
| Lava_Croft | i felt a slight sting when hearing about it, thats for sure | 14:32 |
| normaltusker | I was seriously pissed off on hearing that! | 14:35 |
| Lava_Croft | I knew that would be a silly emotion | 14:36 |
| Lava_Croft | Nokia is a company after all, companies are there to make moneys | 14:36 |
| Lava_Croft | Apart from the obvious philophical implications, i actually like the idea of nokia hardware powering windows phones | 14:36 |
| Lava_Croft | philosophical* | 14:37 |
| Lava_Croft | my brother has an imported HTC phone running wp7, its begging for good nokia hardware | 14:39 |
| Lava_Croft | apart from the really nice and big screen | 14:39 |
| BCMM | is it normal for the tactile support in h-d to "chirrup"? | 14:39 |
| MohammadAG | squeak? | 14:39 |
| BCMM | sorta, yeah | 14:39 |
| BCMM | i guess it's using the vibe at less than full-power | 14:40 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 14:40 |
| BCMM | is that intentional? | 14:40 |
| Lava_Croft | you know what's odd | 14:40 |
| Lava_Croft | having a second N900 as backup device still does not satisfy me | 14:40 |
| Lava_Croft | and i scout for a 3rd | 14:40 |
| Lava_Croft | even tho i really dont need it | 14:40 |
| MohammadAG | BCMM, low-speed, yes, sound, no | 14:41 |
| normaltusker | Lava_Croft: LOL. I share your feelings though i have to be satisfied with just one! :( | 14:41 |
| Lava_Croft | normaltusker: found a used one on dutch ebay for 150e | 14:41 |
| Lava_Croft | it was as good as new, only the box was a bit harmed | 14:41 |
| normaltusker | anyways, got to go. Day's over for me! :) | 14:41 |
| BCMM | MohammadAG: what does the normal "click" vibration when you tap look like? high-power, very short? | 14:41 |
| Lava_Croft | bye | 14:42 |
| MohammadAG | full speed I think | 14:42 |
| Lava_Croft | BCMM: high frequency, short | 14:42 |
| Lava_Croft | speed/frequency | 14:42 |
| normaltusker | Lava_Croft: I could never use a handed down phone. My first and last was the Nokia 2600 back in 2005! :) | 14:42 |
| Lava_Croft | hah | 14:42 |
| Lava_Croft | my first was a 5100 | 14:42 |
| Lava_Croft | second N900 | 14:42 |
| Lava_Croft | :> | 14:42 |
| Lava_Croft | those are the only phones i ever owned | 14:42 |
| Lava_Croft | always used a Palm for other stuff | 14:43 |
| Lava_Croft | then my PalmIIIxe got stolen by a really dumb junkie | 14:43 |
| MohammadAG | echo 255 > /sys/class/leds/twl4030\:vibrator/brightness; gsleep 0.01; echo 0 > /sys/class/leds/twl4030\:vibrator/brightness | 14:43 |
| BCMM | hah, the wikipedia article on angular frequency is great | 14:43 |
| normaltusker | Lava_croft: I have used Nokia phones from the time I knew phones in India. I had a Samsung wave for a while until my N900 came back from Warranty. :) | 14:44 |
| BCMM | it's illustrated with a spinning smiley face | 14:44 |
| Lava_Croft | :> | 14:44 |
| normaltusker | That's a wonderful piece of hardware, but it needs Linux! :) | 14:44 |
| Lava_Croft | I used some shitty other brand phones from panasonic and samsung for several whiles | 14:44 |
| BCMM | (that's probably what junkies that *aren't* really dumb do in their spare time or something) | 14:44 |
| Lava_Croft | BCMM: this one was dumb | 14:44 |
| Lava_Croft | it stole my palm | 14:44 |
| Lava_Croft | worth: about 5 euros | 14:44 |
| Lava_Croft | at the pawnshop | 14:44 |
| Lava_Croft | thats not enough money for one ball of crack | 14:44 |
| Lava_Croft | i have a friend who worked at the homeless shelter where the junkie lived | 14:45 |
| normaltusker | seriously going now. :) Will try and get back on the Phone's IRC so that I can still keep up when I am riding back home! :) | 14:45 |
| Lava_Croft | crazy story etc | 14:45 |
| Lava_Croft | bye! | 14:45 |
| Lava_Croft | use irssi! | 14:45 |
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| Lava_Croft | on a remote server! | 14:45 |
| Lava_Croft | <3 | 14:45 |
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| Jaffa | Gah, the cheek of reopening things in the CSSU bugzilla. | 16:39 |
| w00t_ | Jaffa: ? | 16:55 |
| Jaffa | w00t_: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11968 got closed as MohammadAG as RESOLVED INVALID. Then the guy went and opened it again whilst adding his comment. | 17:01 |
| povbot | Bug 11968: SIM contacts | 17:01 |
| w00t_ | heh | 17:02 |
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| piggz_ | lo...the latest hildon-desktop has some very bad side-effects when blurless is enabled....the status menu no longer displays properly | 17:07 |
| piggz_ | infact, anywhere when blurless would be used, the display becomes corupt | 17:08 |
| Lava_Croft | not over here | 17:10 |
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| MohammadAG | Jaffa, he means he wants to view contacts without copying | 17:15 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, close it as either RESOLVED WONTIFX after changing it to Contacts not CSSU, or close it as RESOLVED INVALID per CSSU | 17:15 |
| piggz_ | also, switching dekstops is very jerky | 17:15 |
| MohammadAG | I'd do it but I'm on 2G | 17:16 |
| piggz_ | Lava_Croft: what version have you got? | 17:16 |
| piggz_ | when sliding dekstops, it stops part way :) | 17:17 |
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| piggz_ | version 20.2010.36-2maemo12.1 | 17:18 |
| MohammadAG | reboot | 17:19 |
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| piggz_ | MohammadAG: i have | 17:20 |
| MohammadAG | dmesg | grep SGX | 17:20 |
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| piggz_ | just booting again.... | 17:21 |
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| piggz_ | MohammadAG: after that reboot if is smoother...and SGX is not found | 17:23 |
| MohammadAG | logs are cleared each reboot | 17:26 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, http://gitorious.org/cordia/hildon-desktop/commit/7ccf55c9bf01d8bebfab13c2f21dc09702c99fae is a neat effect | 19:34 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: Whatdoesitdo? | 19:40 |
| thp | MohammadAG: i think i've seen it on the video | 19:42 |
| MohammadAG | thp, merges fine with current h-d | 19:44 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, zoom in on press | 19:44 |
| * MohammadAG tries to make it configurable | 19:44 | |
| Lava_Croft | heh | 19:45 |
| MohammadAG | thp, one question | 19:46 |
| MohammadAG | in C, does if (1) = true? | 19:46 |
| lcuk | yes | 19:47 |
| lcuk | anything !0 is true | 19:48 |
| lcuk | if(2){...} | 19:48 |
| lcuk | if(28342384283423){...} | 19:48 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG: yes, and while(1) is an endless loop | 19:48 |
| thp | MohammadAG: as lcuk said | 19:49 |
| MohammadAG | ah, got it | 19:49 |
| MohammadAG | which section would this be best in? | 19:49 |
| MohammadAG | [home]? | 19:49 |
| thp | probably, yes | 19:50 |
| thp | i think it only works on the desktop? | 19:51 |
| MohammadAG | no, it's on all parts of hildon-desktop | 19:51 |
| thp | everywhere? even in apps? | 19:51 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 19:51 |
| MohammadAG | actually, no | 19:52 |
| MohammadAG | only in hildon-desktop's parts in apps | 19:52 |
| MohammadAG | (i.e X button, task manager etc) | 19:52 |
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| MohammadAG | yay it works | 20:02 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, Venemo | 20:09 |
| MohammadAG | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/commit/3b4a8b8a0d2279e6bfbe3a55bdae339ad0077362 | 20:09 |
| Venemo | nice to see it MohammadAG :) | 20:10 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG: is it cool on N900 too? | 20:11 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 20:11 |
| MohammadAG | (increasing zoom effect, or better yet, making it configurable) would be cooler | 20:11 |
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| Venemo | we're considering merging in the desktop zooming feature too | 20:29 |
| Venemo | by 'we', I mean Cordia :) | 20:29 |
| MohammadAG | desktop zooming? | 20:29 |
| Venemo | yes | 20:29 |
| MohammadAG | didn't you merge it already? | 20:29 |
| Venemo | afaik we haven't | 20:29 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 20:30 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG: http://gitorious.org/qildon/hildon-desktop/commit/4525cf814672712f8f92a803f746ae9d2f7c34f0 | 20:30 |
| MohammadAG | oh | 20:31 |
| MohammadAG | I thought you meant the effect | 20:31 |
| Venemo | what effect? | 20:31 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG: do you mean the "desktop press feedback"? | 20:32 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 20:32 |
| Venemo | ok | 20:32 |
| MohammadAG | included it in the CSSU | 20:32 |
| Venemo | yes, you told it :) | 20:32 |
| MohammadAG | Venemo, how does one zoom? | 20:32 |
| MohammadAG | just making sure you didn't mix :p | 20:32 |
| Venemo | "desktop press feedback" != zoom | 20:32 |
| Venemo | as I said, we haven't merged the zoom feature yet | 20:33 |
| Jaffa | The problem with desktop press feedback is that it pops back out, which isn't what you'd expect if you're dragging | 20:33 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 20:33 |
| Jaffa | Venemo: What does "global zoom" mean then? | 20:33 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, like on the iPhone I guess | 20:33 |
| MohammadAG | (accessibility feature) | 20:34 |
| Jaffa | Ah | 20:34 |
| MohammadAG | but how does one do it? | 20:34 |
| Jaffa | And navigate around et. | 20:34 |
| Jaffa | +c | 20:34 |
| Jaffa | One weird artifact I've noticed recently. If I'm in an app and tap on the top-left, I'll see a frame of the desktop before it blurs away to the launcher | 20:34 |
| Venemo | Jaffa: as I said, we _haven't_ merged that patch yet!!!!!! | 20:34 |
| Venemo | Jaffa: that link is moimart's repo, not ours | 20:35 |
| Jaffa | Venemo: I assumed you'd know what a patch did to even look at it ;-) | 20:35 |
| MohammadAG | less ! Venemo | 20:35 |
| Venemo | Jaffa: it supports global zooming. | 20:35 |
| Venemo | Jaffa: like, zooming in and out on the desktop and apps | 20:36 |
| MohammadAG | the iPhone does this in a confusing yet smart way | 20:36 |
| MohammadAG | the N900 lacks multitouch though | 20:36 |
| Venemo | I think moimart made it work with a shortcut key combo | 20:36 |
| Lava_Croft | use volume rocker for zooming:) | 20:37 |
| Jaffa | Little status bar slider is probably the nicest way. | 20:38 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 20:39 |
| MohammadAG | or some button + microB zoom in gesture | 20:39 |
| MohammadAG | <Jaffa> The problem with desktop press feedback is that it pops back out, which isn't what you'd expect if you're dragging | 20:39 |
| Lava_Croft | hm | 20:39 |
| MohammadAG | smoku's video shows it stays pressed | 20:39 |
| MohammadAG | I wonder how he did it | 20:40 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG: ask him | 20:43 |
| MohammadAG | he's idling | 20:43 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG: I dunno | 20:43 |
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| chadi | I would like to see portrait on the wireless selection dialog | 22:28 |
| MohammadAG | closed source | 22:29 |
| chadi | too bad. what package is it part of? | 22:30 |
| MohammadAG | not sure, probably icd2 | 22:31 |
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| Vid | Hello, can anyone tell me where to find the source code for the Diablo CSSU? | 23:55 |
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