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| luke-jr | hmm, I guess it will be time to retire this channel's place on my IRC list :x | 01:08 |
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| luke-jr | soon | 01:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | you'll miss all the action... | 01:09 |
| Wizzup | luke-jr: do you know about #maemo-leste? | 01:39 |
| Wizzup | (bedtime now for me) | 01:40 |
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| luke-jr | Wizzup: no? | 03:03 |
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| brolin_empey | To answer my own question from a few weeks ago, apparently the LG V20 has both an easily accessible and removable battery and integrated 2× optical zoom for at least one of the two rear-facing cameras. Too bad the display is an LCD instead of an OLED display, though. I wonder if any smartphone has all of an easily accessible and removable battery, integrated optical zoom, both normal and wide angle rear-facing cameras, and an LED display? And maybe even | 06:07 |
| brolin_empey | using x86-64 + PCI Express instead of the ARM architecture? Most of the x86 smartphones I have found have an LCD instead of an LED display, though. | 06:07 |
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| luke-jr | lol | 06:54 |
| luke-jr | why would you want x86? | 06:54 |
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| Wizzup | luke-jr: basically maemo with mainline and all parts open sourced (some stuff still wip), runs on n900 and other devices | 09:42 |
| luke-jr | Wizzup: I haven't used my N900 for years at this point | 09:51 |
| luke-jr | and I was tbh never a big fan of Maemo itself (ran Gentoo on my N900) | 09:52 |
| * Wizzup started with gentoo on his n900 | 09:52 | |
| luke-jr | pretty much entirely migrated to LineageOS on my phone and KDE on my GPD Win 2 | 09:52 |
| Wizzup | well, sure, just wanted to let you know | 09:52 |
| Wizzup | I use it on my droid 4 with latest linux and it's quite a bit smoother/faster than on the n900, too | 09:53 |
| luke-jr | I didn't recall N900 being slow? | 09:53 |
| sicelo | :-) | 09:54 |
| Wizzup | luke-jr: it's not slow, but compared to the droid, it is ;) | 09:54 |
| luke-jr | it's a shame the Pyra never happened | 09:55 |
| Wizzup | https://leste.maemo.org/Motorola_Droid_4 | 09:55 |
| Wizzup | SoC: TI OMAP4430 | 09:55 |
| Wizzup | close enough for me :) | 09:55 |
| luke-jr | lol | 09:56 |
| luke-jr | Wizzup: have you looked at the PinePhone? | 09:56 |
| luke-jr | no keyboard, but at least it's real Linux | 09:56 |
| Wizzup | yes, I have one here | 09:56 |
| Wizzup | one of the early devkits too :) | 09:57 |
| luke-jr | nice | 09:57 |
| Wizzup | It's pretty cool, allwinner soc with lima driver and world wide modem, but power management is a disappointment when you're used to TI | 09:57 |
| Wizzup | we have maemo (leste) running on it too | 09:57 |
| luke-jr | ooo | 09:57 |
| KotCzarny | with calls? | 09:57 |
| Wizzup | KotCzarny: kinda, it can work with some effort (probably one or two days), but the call UI is being worked on still | 09:58 |
| KotCzarny | not bad | 09:58 |
| Wizzup | (it can work = CLI calls) | 09:58 |
| luke-jr | but Maemo had a call UI already | 09:58 |
| Wizzup | yes, it's not open source though | 09:58 |
| luke-jr | :| | 09:58 |
| Wizzup | it's ~100kB in binary, and 300kB in support library for the binary | 09:59 |
| luke-jr | I'm tempted to use the PinePhone as a thermostat, but I'm not prepared to figure out how to attach relays | 09:59 |
| Wizzup | fwiw if you want to do some further reading on leste - https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-leste-thirteenth-update-april-may-june-2020.html | 09:59 |
| KotCzarny | luke-jr, usb? | 09:59 |
| dreamer | luke-jr: i2c -> µC -> relay | 10:00 |
| Wizzup | doesn't the pinephone export i2c on the back? | 10:00 |
| luke-jr | KotCzarny: definitely not USB :P | 10:00 |
| Wizzup | IIRC I asked TL to add that, together with the charging pogo pins on the back, early last year | 10:00 |
| luke-jr | Wizzup: yeah, but I guess I'd need a 3D printer to use it effectively? | 10:00 |
| luke-jr | also, it's not really ideal aside from being flat | 10:01 |
| Wizzup | I'm hoping they will make the keyboard case I envisioned for the pinephone, that's why I suggested the i2c and power pins on the back :) | 10:01 |
| luke-jr | flat w/ a few physical buttons would be better | 10:01 |
| luke-jr | aha | 10:01 |
| luke-jr | I'm leaning toward finding some PiZero alternative to throw in the existing thermostats and hijack their hardware | 10:02 |
| Wizzup | that's probably easier | 10:02 |
| Wizzup | with the pinephone not in deep sleep (with modem wakeup), I don't think you'll get more than 6-8 hours of battery life | 10:02 |
| KotCzarny | darn | 10:03 |
| Wizzup | KotCzarny: there's an extra mini core on there that you can use to wake up the main soc, like on modem activity and such, which they use to get 1.5 day or so, but that will obviously rule out doing anything on linux | 10:03 |
| KotCzarny | if you talk about arisc, yeah | 10:04 |
| KotCzarny | its for power management | 10:04 |
| Wizzup | yeah, that one | 10:05 |
| KotCzarny | and luke can program it for his thermostat too | 10:06 |
| Wizzup | heh... | 10:06 |
| KotCzarny | which obviously have the bonus of saved battery | 10:06 |
| Wizzup | not sure why you'd not use a pizero in the first place then | 10:06 |
| KotCzarny | display maybe? | 10:07 |
| KotCzarny | and integration | 10:07 |
| KotCzarny | battery, display, case | 10:07 |
| KotCzarny | all in neat package | 10:07 |
| KotCzarny | i wonder if one could access modem from arisc | 10:08 |
| KotCzarny | for receiving/sending sms for example | 10:08 |
| luke-jr | KotCzarny: I think I want tstat screen on 24/7 | 10:08 |
| luke-jr | stupid Nest was unable to do it | 10:08 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | powerbank wiki page? | 21:15 |
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