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| drathir | did You guys hear about about "new" very secure for damage li-ion batteries ? them even fire resistant ones... water blend stab and looks like flexible plastic, and them if good remember more non toxic ones in compare to old ones... | 05:29 |
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| ceene | hi guys | 10:29 |
| ceene | how you doing? | 10:29 |
| KotCzarny | autumn sickness | 10:29 |
| ceene | that's strange because it's winter already | 10:29 |
| sicelo | by the way, some might be interested in https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-leste-eleventh-update-january-2020.html | 10:32 |
| ceene | i was thinking of installing that in one of my n900, with the idea of having an uptodate kernel in which to install "modern" ham radio software | 10:32 |
| ceene | i say "modern" because ham radio software for linux is everything but modern | 10:33 |
| sicelo | you have nothing to lose :) | 10:33 |
| ceene | xastir has the most outdated interface I've ever seen | 10:33 |
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| ceene | also, I think the sdcard in which I have easydebian installed is failing | 10:35 |
| ceene | when I try to do somethings with it, the phone suddenly reboots (kernel panic?) | 10:35 |
| ceene | IIRC I also have there two swap partitions | 10:35 |
| ceene | does audio input & output work on leste, via headset? | 10:36 |
| sicelo | i believe so, yes. but you'll have to do it via alsamixer, etc. | 10:37 |
| ceene | i'll give it a try then | 10:38 |
| ceene | by the way, maybe you guys know how to solve an issue I'm having with a Zynq based board | 10:38 |
| ceene | Linux fails detecting an SPI memory flash that is correctly detected by u-boot. u-boot says: SF: Detected n25q128a13 with page size 256 Bytes, erase size 4 KiB, total 16 MiB; while Linux reports: m25p80 spi0.0: unrecognized JEDEC id bytes: 00 00 00 00 00 00 | 10:39 |
| ceene | Does u-boot do something extremely clever that Linux does not? | 10:39 |
| ceene | the only gue that has answered me about this on #linux is someone who doesn't know what u-boot is | 10:41 |
| ceene | so I think i'm on my own :D | 10:41 |
| ceene | s/gue/guy/ | 10:41 |
| KotCzarny | ceene: spi driver has a hardcoded data about known flash | 10:42 |
| KotCzarny | so just find/add | 10:42 |
| KotCzarny | but id being all 0 might mean something else is wrong | 10:43 |
| ceene | yep, the problem is that this thing seems to be reading all 00 bytes, so it doesn't find it in the database | 10:43 |
| ceene | this chip memory is already in the driver, it should work | 10:43 |
| ceene | i have similar boards with the same chip that are getting recognized just fine | 10:43 |
| KotCzarny | wrong spi config then in linux? | 10:43 |
| ceene | i don't know, the device tree is the same in both linux and u-boot | 10:44 |
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| badcloud_ | Any reason the "Alarm tone" button is greyed? | 16:37 |
| badcloud_ | Also, I was wondering if there is a lock screen that shows sms/email/im content | 16:39 |
| sicelo | interesting. that's the first thing i disable on Android :p | 16:53 |
| badcloud_ | sicelo haha | 16:53 |
| KotCzarny | alarms? but they are useful :) | 16:53 |
| sicelo | the lock screen notifications | 16:54 |
| KotCzarny | i know, just kidding | 16:54 |
| sicelo | otoh, N900 is still my main device .. so even alarms, music, etc. - all happens on N900 | 16:56 |
| KotCzarny | if i could only run some of the android apps on it easily.. | 16:56 |
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| sicelo | which ones do you use/need most KotCzarny? | 17:19 |
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| KotCzarny | city bicycles, bank, steam guard | 17:26 |
| KotCzarny | netflix is nice too | 17:35 |
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| badcloud_ | What's the difference between modrana and modrana-qml? Aside from the name :) | 19:38 |
| KotCzarny | libraries compiled against? | 19:41 |
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| sicelo | iirc it's the UI in use. without QML, it uses GTK | 19:46 |
| badcloud_ | Makes sense | 19:53 |
| badcloud_ | I'm still in the dark about not being able to change the alarm tone | 19:58 |
| badcloud_ | I successfully installed thumb | 19:59 |
| sicelo | alarm tone? | 20:00 |
| badcloud_ | Yes | 20:00 |
| badcloud_ | The button is greyed out | 20:00 |
| badcloud_ | In maemo, not modrana | 20:01 |
| sicelo | i think you're trying to set the tone while setting an alarm? i guess someone wanted to implement different alarm ringtones :) | 20:02 |
| sicelo | Just do it in Clock > Alarm Settings | 20:02 |
| sicelo | s/different /per-/ | 20:03 |
| badcloud_ | Thanks, that's what I missed :P | 20:03 |
| sicelo | yw | 20:05 |
| badcloud_ | Is there mp-fremantle-community-pr for thumb? | 20:08 |
| KotCzarny | how did you install thumb? | 20:08 |
| badcloud_ | I tried according to the wiki | 20:09 |
| badcloud_ | With the .install file | 20:09 |
| KotCzarny | ok | 20:09 |
| badcloud_ | But in the end I had to apt-get upgrade | 20:09 |
| sicelo | what is your output for `apt-cache policy mp-fremantle-community-pr` | 20:10 |
| badcloud_ | Sec | 20:10 |
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| badcloud_ | https://pastebin.com/s7bCEUpU | 20:14 |
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| sicelo | haha, it says none installed | 20:15 |
| sicelo | i'd say re-do the steps. you obviously should have backups of important stuff in case things go south | 20:16 |
| KotCzarny | i bet on some dependency failed | 20:17 |
| KotCzarny | or you didnt wait for package manager to process installation properly | 20:18 |
| badcloud_ | It gave me an error regarding the thumb enabler | 20:18 |
| badcloud_ | So, start from scratch? | 20:19 |
| sicelo | so do it again then, and let us know what error it gives you | 20:19 |
| badcloud_ | Flash? | 20:19 |
| KotCzarny | try without at first | 20:19 |
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| badcloud_ | package 'community-ssu-enabler' not found | 20:22 |
| badcloud_ | That's also what I got before | 20:22 |
| KotCzarny | https://talk.maemo.org/archive/index.php/t-72052.html | 20:23 |
| KotCzarny | might be related | 20:23 |
| KotCzarny | what are your repos? | 20:24 |
| badcloud_ | Apt-get found it, I'm trying that route | 20:25 |
| sicelo | at least :) | 20:25 |
| badcloud_ | https://pastebin.com/yKCeD8tM | 20:27 |
| badcloud_ | https://pastebin.com/aWHbNiiD | 20:28 |
| sicelo | you don't have the Thumb repos there | 20:28 |
| sicelo | how are you installing Thumb? | 20:28 |
| sicelo | here's the .install file for Thumb | 20:29 |
| badcloud_ | What about: deb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free? | 20:33 |
| badcloud_ | sicelo where's the .install file? | 20:35 |
| sicelo | ah, i didn't see your 2nd paste | 20:35 |
| sicelo | you have this in two separate files? | 20:35 |
| badcloud_ | yes | 20:35 |
| sicelo | how did that happen? | 20:36 |
| * sicelo checks on his N900 | 20:36 | |
| badcloud_ | Hmm, the hildon list file was written by the .install file | 20:37 |
| badcloud_ | the source list updated by me | 20:37 |
| sicelo | you generally shouldn't do that. | 20:37 |
| badcloud_ | I see | 20:38 |
| badcloud_ | What do yours look like? | 20:38 |
| KotCzarny | which basically means, backup your repos, then use only basic ones + the one from installer | 20:38 |
| KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 20:38 |
| infobot | rumour has it, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 20:38 |
| sicelo | you can remove everything from the sources.list file, and just open the file i linked above ... it will update the repos accordingly | 20:38 |
| badcloud_ | sicelo can't see the link | 20:39 |
| sicelo | http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/community-thumb-fremantle.install | 20:40 |
| badcloud_ | That's the one I used | 20:40 |
| sicelo | :) | 20:41 |
| badcloud_ | so just scrap the sources.list? | 20:41 |
| sicelo | (1) empty everything in sources.list, (2) open this file on N900 using the browser - it will then 'take' over, open Application Manager, etc. | 20:43 |
| sicelo | you don't have to manually add the repositories anywhere | 20:43 |
| KotCzarny | doesnt app manager have own repo list/ | 20:43 |
| badcloud_ | What about the hildon-application-manager.list file? | 20:44 |
| KotCzarny | thats what im talking about | 20:44 |
| sicelo | leave the hildon-application-manager.list file alone. use the .install file above | 20:45 |
| sicelo | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb#Installation <<- | 20:45 |
| badcloud_ | Ok | 20:45 |
| badcloud_ | That's the wiki I used | 20:45 |
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| badcloud_ | Gave me the same error, package 'community-ssu-enablr' not found | 20:48 |
| badcloud_ | enabler | 20:48 |
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| sicelo | ok | 20:49 |
| sicelo | check if hildon-application-manager.list has deb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free perhaps now | 20:51 |
| sicelo | btw, did it open the Application Manager when you clicked the .install file? | 20:53 |
| badcloud_ | deb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free | 20:53 |
| badcloud_ | Whoops, mistake | 20:53 |
| badcloud_ | Hold on | 20:53 |
| badcloud_ | https://pastebin.com/dTRsEDwq | 20:54 |
| badcloud_ | Looks like I have double community-testing | 20:55 |
| sicelo | at least the thumb repo is there now | 20:55 |
| badcloud_ | And, yes. HAM opened when opening the .install file | 20:56 |
| sicelo | hope you didn't close HAM afterwards :) | 20:57 |
| badcloud_ | Of course not... | 20:57 |
| sicelo | any errors yet? | 20:57 |
| badcloud_ | package 'community-ssu-enabler' not found | 20:58 |
| badcloud_ | I already installed that package via apt, seems like I'm running testing now | 20:58 |
| sicelo | you can try installing it in apt | 20:58 |
| sicelo | ah | 20:58 |
| KotCzarny | i think ham does some additional mumbo-jumbo | 20:59 |
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| badcloud_ | 81 packages being updated via apt now | 21:00 |
| badcloud_ | Worst case I'll just reflash and try again... | 21:03 |
| sicelo | it should be fine. i've installed CSSU using apt with no ill-effect | 21:07 |
| badcloud_ | :) | 21:10 |
| badcloud_ | How do you install u-boot alongside cssu? | 21:10 |
| sicelo | like any other package | 21:12 |
| badcloud_ | Ok | 21:12 |
| badcloud_ | For some reason I remember them clashing | 21:12 |
| sicelo | the only thing you need to be careful about is - since you'll be using -thumb, immediately after installing uboot, be sure to set Kernel Power to be the default kernel. | 21:14 |
| sicelo | do this before rebooting the device | 21:14 |
| sicelo | reason - -thumb can't boot on the vanilla N900 kernel, which uboot defaults to | 21:16 |
| sicelo | https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1150740&postcount=1 has all the info you need | 21:17 |
| badcloud_ | Done! | 21:18 |
| badcloud_ | Now to test things out... | 21:19 |
| badcloud_ | u-boot-flasher: Depends: kernel-modules | 21:24 |
| badcloud_ | apt-get install kernel-modules: kernel-cssu-modules instead of kernel-modules | 21:26 |
| sicelo | that's ok. | 21:28 |
| badcloud_ | Doesn't seem like uboot installed | 21:31 |
| sicelo | if it installed, you should have seen it flashing a kernel - same as when you flash on pc | 21:32 |
| badcloud_ | That's it, I didn't see that | 21:32 |
| sicelo | iirc it should even popup a dialog warning you about kernel install | 21:32 |
| badcloud_ | I remember that too, it didn't do that | 21:32 |
| sicelo | you can just reinstall - u-boot-tools, uboot-flasher, kernel-cssu-bootimg | 21:34 |
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| badcloud_ | Broken package: u-boot-flasher: Depends: kernel-modules | 21:39 |
| sicelo | seems you're missing a repo | 21:43 |
| badcloud_ | https://pastebin.com/Tg7MjTaK | 21:46 |
| badcloud_ | probably extras-devel | 21:46 |
| sicelo | not devel | 21:48 |
| sicelo | you're missing the standard repos | 21:48 |
| sicelo | ~maemo-repos | 21:48 |
| infobot | from memory, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 21:48 |
| sicelo | i use muarf mirrors | 21:49 |
| badcloud_ | Ok, I'll add them to the hildon list | 21:53 |
| badcloud_ | Added the two repos to sources.list | 22:03 |
| badcloud_ | Still got same error from at-get | 22:04 |
| badcloud_ | apt | 22:04 |
| KotCzarny | afair, every time you run ham it will nuke your sources.list | 22:04 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 22:04 |
| badcloud_ | I see | 22:04 |
| sicelo | you should add repos in HAM, not sources.list, and not even hildon-whatwhat.list | 22:04 |
| sicelo | there's a .install file for muarf - http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/muarf_all.install | 22:07 |
| badcloud_ | Oh thank god, I was afraid I'd have to type it all in | 22:08 |
| badcloud_ | Still getting same error | 22:12 |
| badcloud_ | Holy crap... | 22:13 |
| sicelo | show u your hildon.list | 22:13 |
| badcloud_ | https://pastebin.com/DLFZfPw9 | 22:14 |
| badcloud_ | I remember that one repo needs to be disabled when running thumb, right? | 22:15 |
| sicelo | same error? menaing "Broken package: u-boot-flasher: Depends: kernel-modules" ? | 22:16 |
| badcloud_ | Yep | 22:16 |
| sicelo | sounds like an unfinished catalog refresh. the package is definitely available | 22:17 |
| sicelo | http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/k/kernel/ | 22:18 |
| KotCzarny | didnt you tell him to install power-kernel? | 22:18 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 22:18 |
| badcloud_ | yup | 22:18 |
| sicelo | KotCzarny: power-kernel installs automatically for thumb. it's a requirement | 22:19 |
| KotCzarny | maybe modules wont suck kernel as a dep | 22:19 |
| sicelo | you're installing using apt or HAM? | 22:20 |
| badcloud_ | tried via apt, I can't see the packages in HAM | 22:21 |
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| sicelo | apt-get update && apt-get install u-boot-tools uboot-flasher kernel-cssu-bootimg | 22:22 |
| badcloud_ | That's what I did, no go | 22:22 |
| sicelo | sounds impossible (to me) | 22:23 |
| badcloud_ | I''l try again | 22:24 |
| * sicelo installs u-boot on thumb N900 | 22:24 | |
| badcloud_ | Boohoo | 22:25 |
| badcloud_ | How do I tell if I'm running thunb? | 22:25 |
| sicelo | Control Panel > General > About Community CSSU | 22:26 |
| badcloud_ | Says testing | 22:26 |
| sicelo | yes, under version, should end with `+thumb0` | 22:26 |
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| badcloud_ | Tmaemo12 | 22:27 |
| sicelo | then you're not on thumb yet | 22:27 |
| sicelo | anyway, u-boot issue is unrelated to thumb | 22:27 |
| sicelo | maybe just reflash and start from scratch if that's easier :) | 22:29 |
| badcloud_ | Maybe | 22:29 |
| sicelo | at least not you know what repos you need, etc. | 22:29 |
| sicelo | s/not/now/ | 22:29 |
| infobot | sicelo meant: at least now you know what repos you need, etc. | 22:29 |
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| badcloud_ | I'm gonna make one last desperate try and remove community-ssu-enabler and then reinstall | 22:34 |
| badcloud_ | sicelo thanks so much for the help :) | 22:36 |
| sicelo | yw | 22:36 |
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| * badcloud_ is reflashing this BEYOTSCH | 23:24 | |
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| badcloud_ | sicelo If you're still there, I just reflashed, loaded both .install files (muarf first), still got error | 23:49 |
| badcloud_ | package community-ssu-enabler not found | 23:50 |
| KotCzarny | does the error exist on normal cssu too? | 23:50 |
| badcloud_ | Not sure, I'd like to install thumb | 23:51 |
| KotCzarny | start with normal cssu, just to be sure its not something on your side | 23:51 |
| badcloud_ | You mean stable or testing? | 23:51 |
| sicelo | testing | 23:51 |
| badcloud_ | Ok | 23:51 |
| badcloud_ | http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/community-testing-fremantle.install ? | 23:52 |
| badcloud_ | Do I need to remove thumb repo first? | 23:53 |
| sicelo | but, have you not already tried to install thumb? might be best to reflash again .. | 23:53 |
| badcloud_ | No, I just reflashed | 23:54 |
| badcloud_ | All the install file did was change hildon.list and look for community-ssu-enabler | 23:54 |
| sicelo | maybe go in to HAM and disable the Thumb repo then, and use that install file you linked | 23:55 |
| badcloud_ | the testing install file works | 23:57 |
| badcloud_ | is it possible to go to thumb after installing testing? | 23:58 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 23:58 |
| badcloud_ | giddyup then :) | 23:58 |
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