| badcloud_ | Pretty sure it will give me the same error when I try to install thumb | 00:00 |
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| badcloud_ | It worked for you guys? | 00:01 |
| KotCzarny | it was long time ago | 00:01 |
| sicelo | same here ... long time :) | 00:02 |
| badcloud_ | :) | 00:02 |
| sicelo | and i won't reflash - bandwidth issues | 00:02 |
| badcloud_ | I see | 00:03 |
| badcloud_ | Are the updates dating up until 2017 only for thumb? | 00:04 |
| KotCzarny | testing might be newer than thumb | 00:05 |
| sicelo | yes, it is | 00:05 |
| sicelo | anyway, Maemo Fremantle has been frozen for a long time now. No one is (actively) working on CSSU anymore. | 00:06 |
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| badcloud_ | Yeah, I know. I can't wait til Leste has UI call support. You guys are doing god's work | 00:06 |
| badcloud_ | So what would be the route for switching to thumb, deleting testing's repos and then loading the install file? | 00:09 |
| sicelo | no need to delete testing. just go with the install file. | 00:10 |
| sicelo | thumb IS a version of testing :) | 00:10 |
| sicelo | anyway, here's my .list for comparison - http://paste.debian.net/1126025/ | 00:12 |
| badcloud_ | Nice | 00:12 |
| sicelo | you don't need the -devel and -sdk ones of course | 00:13 |
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| badcloud_ | Hmmm, screen went blank... | 00:22 |
| badcloud_ | ssh session froze | 00:23 |
| badcloud_ | Testing installation conked | 00:50 |
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| badcloud_ | I tried making a desktop file for osso-xterm which would run bash. "Exec=/usr/bin/osso-xterm -e bash" didn't work, even though running that command from osso-xterm brings up a new window with bash | 16:16 |
| badcloud_ | Is there any way to have a hildon menu entry which launches osso-xterm with bash? | 16:17 |
| badcloud_ | Instead of ash | 16:18 |
| badcloud_ | I don't want to change default shell in /etc/passwd | 16:18 |
| badcloud_ | Just have a separate entry in hildon | 16:18 |
| KotCzarny | make a script? | 16:19 |
| badcloud_ | Sure, why not | 16:21 |
| badcloud_ | It seems to work only when running the script within an existing osso-xterm window | 16:39 |
| badcloud_ | I tried /usr/bin/maemo-summoner /usr/bin/osso-xterm.launch -e bash | 16:40 |
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| bencoh | badcloud_: try adding Terminal=true | 17:00 |
| badcloud_ | Nope, it just quits after opening an osso-xterm window, thinking a lot (spinning animation) and then quitting | 17:04 |
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| badcloud_ | Why's it gotta be so convoluted, Nokia?? | 17:15 |
| * badcloud_ shakes fists at the air | 17:15 | |
| KotCzarny | i think its not nokia, that whole app bussiness was earlier | 17:16 |
| badcloud_ | Gotcha | 17:17 |
| halftux | badcloud_: try this Exec=/usr/bin/osso-xterm 'bash' | 17:19 |
| KotCzarny | umm | 17:20 |
| KotCzarny | shouldnt it be full path? | 17:20 |
| KotCzarny | ie. /usr/bin/bash or whatever? | 17:20 |
| KotCzarny | since bash is not officially installed, check where it is | 17:20 |
| halftux | could be that a full path is needed, but remove the -e and put it in inverted commas | 17:22 |
| badcloud_ | which bash gave me /bin/bash | 17:25 |
| badcloud_ | I tried inverted commas | 17:25 |
| badcloud_ | How is leste in this regard, easier to customize? | 17:26 |
| halftux | which bash version you have installed? | 17:27 |
| badcloud_ | 4 | 17:27 |
| badcloud_ | Bear in mind that when I run any variant of the Exec value in an existing xterm window, works fine | 17:28 |
| badcloud_ | osso-xterm -e bash works | 17:29 |
| badcloud_ | osso-xterm bash does too | 17:29 |
| badcloud_ | So does '/usr/bin/maemo-summoner /usr/bin/osso-xterm.launch -e bash' | 17:30 |
| badcloud_ | It's only from the hildon menu that things go south | 17:30 |
| KotCzarny | full path? | 17:30 |
| badcloud_ | Yup | 17:32 |
| badcloud_ | Exec=/usr/bin/osso-xterm -e `/bin/bash/` was my last attempt | 17:33 |
| KotCzarny | um | 17:33 |
| badcloud_ | using inverted commas | 17:33 |
| KotCzarny | /bin/bash ? | 17:33 |
| KotCzarny | and drop backticks | 17:33 |
| badcloud_ | Yes, /bin/bash is where bash is | 17:34 |
| badcloud_ | Still nothing | 17:34 |
| badcloud_ | Please tell me that leste is easier to configure | 17:37 |
| KotCzarny | i strongly suspect what are you trying to achieve is doable, just some stupid typo somewhere | 17:37 |
| badcloud_ | I'll post my .desktop file later when I get a chance | 17:38 |
| badcloud_ | Ciao for now | 17:39 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 17:39 |
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| halftux | Pali: Hello Pali I have a question regarding 0xFFFF and the dump fiasco option. First I getting initfs_tmp is empty, removing it. And later Error: Cannot open image file initfs_tmp: No such file. However I get a fiasco file is it save to flash it? Can I ignore this message? | 18:37 |
| Pali | hello | 18:38 |
| Pali | can you please post full log? | 18:38 |
| halftux | is there a log option or should I redirect the output to > log.txt | 18:39 |
| Pali | record | 18:39 |
| Pali | or post output from terminal | 18:39 |
| halftux | ok I will do it later still at work | 18:50 |
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| badcloud_ | https://pastebin.com/nSyjdui5 | 19:03 |
| badcloud_ | ^ the osso-xterm bash desktop file | 19:03 |
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| halftux | badcloud_: it is a bit tricky with bash but it works | 20:08 |
| halftux | make sure in desktop file there is no line X-Osso-Service=xterm | 20:09 |
| halftux | Exec=/usr/bin/osso-xterm '/opt/bash.sh' | 20:10 |
| halftux | bash script: #!/bin/sh [newline] sleep 2 [newline] /usr/bin/osso-xterm '/bin/bash' [newline] return | 20:13 |
| halftux | thats it | 20:14 |
| badcloud_ | Wow, bravo | 20:17 |
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| badcloud_ | Thanks :) | 20:18 |
| halftux | np | 20:19 |
| halftux | going offline will be back later if you still facing a problem with it | 20:20 |
| KotCzarny | you exec osso-xterm twice | 20:20 |
| halftux | yes and with return I close the first one | 20:20 |
| KotCzarny | why not just make it /bin/sh /yourscript ? | 20:20 |
| KotCzarny | anyway, as long it works.. | 20:22 |
| halftux | lol yeah should also work thinking to complicated sometimes | 20:22 |
| halftux | cya later | 20:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBq7VMIkgPk | 20:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | TLBLEED | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, not exactly news | 20:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | badcloud_: >>Terminal=false<< HMMM?? | 21:01 |
| badcloud_ | I tried it with true as well | 21:02 |
| badcloud_ | halftux's script did the trick though | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this works for a script for me https://termbin.com/hgh7 | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not bash though | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder if bash is special | 21:12 |
| badcloud_ | Thanks | 21:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | could you try echo "/bin/bash" >>/etc/shells; ? | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry when I'm a tad lazy trying that on my own phone | 21:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since I already got this and possibly other mods already | 21:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | changing login shell on etc/passwd is strongly deprecated, it may result in system boot failure | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks to subtle differences between bash and messybox which are relied upon in startup scripts | 21:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | man 5 shells >>/etc/shells is a text file which contains the full pathnames of valid login shells<< | 21:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | good question if starting an xterm would invoke a *login* shell | 21:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though >>Be aware that there are programs which consult this file to find out if a user is a normal user; for example, FTP daemons traditionally disallow access to users with shells not included in this file.<< | 21:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | your description of what works and what doesn't sounds much like a specific login shell problem | 21:49 |
| Maxdamantus | I just have my shell set to /bin/bash .. should be able to do something like `chsh -s /bin/bash` | 21:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | >>On OSX, by default, the Terminal application runs a login shell. (As I explain, the program that starts the shell decides whether the shell acts as a login shell.) That's not the normal way to do things. << https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/38175/difference-between-login-shell-and-non-login-shell | 22:00 |
| Maxdamantus | I think that's talking about a different meaning of "login shell". It's talking there about whether or not it passes `-l` to the shell. | 22:02 |
| Maxdamantus | I think reading /etc/passwd to figure out what shell to use is a fairly standard behaviour for terminals. urxvt does it. | 22:03 |
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| Maxdamantus | A regular xterm (not osso) does it too. | 22:04 |
| halftux | in principle no script is needed checked again the mistacke was only this line in the desktop file X-Osso-Service=xterm | 22:05 |
| halftux | mistake | 22:05 |
| halftux | badcloud_: only removing X-Osso-Service=xterm will solve the issue no other steps are needed | 22:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though man xterm >>-ls This option indicates that the shell that is started in the xterm window will be a login shell (i.e., the first character of argv[0] will be a dash, indicating to the shell that it should read the user's .login or .profile).<< // man 5 shells >>/etc/shells is a text file which contains the full pathnames of valid login shells<< | 22:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | X-Osso-Service=xterm means: "send a dbus-msg to either start (if no instance is running) or bring to front and focus an already running instance of xterm" AFAIK | 22:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | obviously you need a different name for an xterm with different behavior than the one defined in dbus config | 22:10 |
| badcloud_ | Fixed the desktop file | 22:12 |
| KotCzarny | see? i knew it was something trivial | 22:15 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 22:15 |
| halftux | :) | 22:15 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 still wonders if osso-xterm checks /etc/shells | 22:16 | |
| KotCzarny | osso-xterm runs user's shell then a command inside that shell | 22:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err | 22:17 |
| Maxdamantus | My N900 doesn't have an /etc/shells file | 22:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is an answer to my question? | 22:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | also doesn't seem correct | 22:18 |
| Maxdamantus | I think /etc/shells is just something used by `chsh`, not the terminal/login mechanism. | 22:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xterm [-toolkitoption ...] [-option ...] [shell] | 22:18 |
| Maxdamantus | that is, it should prevent people from putting non-standard shells into their line in /etc/passwd | 22:18 |
| Maxdamantus | but obviously root can just edit the /etc/passwd file directly to avoid that limitation. | 22:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | quite possibly osso-xterm is a simplified generic xterm, it still may accept commands to run *instead* of shell rather than *in* shell | 22:20 |
| Maxdamantus | man chsh >> The only restriction placed on the login shell is that the command name must be listed in /etc/shells, unless the invoker is the superuser, and then any value may be added. | 22:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ayayayay https://termbin.com/jgm4 | 23:20 |
| halftux | looks ugly | 23:45 |
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