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DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: >>a push-button wired POTS corded telephone from 1980 with an acoustic bell instead of an electronic tone generator, which uses electronics but is not a computer, can still function on the PSTN in 2019.<< afaik all PSTN analog lines anywhere (getting fewer by the day) are supposed and usually do acept even pulse dialing as found in a rotary dial PSTN phone from say 1950 | 00:48 |
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Juesto | hey joe | 00:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~FAM | 00:51 |
infobot | well, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam | 00:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~hamvsfam | 00:52 |
infobot | somebody said hamvsfam was https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 | 00:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~speedyHAM | 00:52 |
infobot | hmm... speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in CSSU. | 00:52 |
Juesto | Huh | 00:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack | 00:54 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: :) | 00:54 |
xmn | wasn't aware of speedyHAM! will have a look, thx! | 00:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yw | 00:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu | 00:54 |
infobot | rumour has it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) | 00:54 |
xmn | where do I find speedyHAM? | 01:06 |
Juesto | xmn: It is part of CSSU as it was mentioned. | 01:10 |
xmn | ah, I missed that somehow. So currently part or in an upcoming release. I'm running 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo12 testing | 01:12 |
xmn | getting warmer :D, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1425997&postcount=24 | 01:16 |
xmn | or am I just missing the boat, is the built in HAM in cssu speedyHAM? | 01:17 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 01:19 |
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xmn | ah, I see that's would be why I didn't hear about it as a separate install. | 01:19 |
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xmn | Thx guys for the knowledge. | 01:20 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | yw, that's why we're here | 01:23 |
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xmn | :) | 01:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal speedyHAM | 01:24 |
infobot | "speedyham" is "30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in CSSU." | 01:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, speedyHAM is 30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in CSSU replacing the original Hildon application Manager there | 01:25 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay | 01:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, speedyHAM is 30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in ~CSSU replacing the original Hildon application Manager there | 01:26 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay | 01:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~speedyham | 01:26 |
infobot | from memory, speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in ~CSSU replacing the original Hildon application Manager there | 01:26 |
Juesto | Hmm | 01:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Juesto: ? | 01:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | don't agree? | 01:29 |
Juesto | oh, hey just got back so yeah, there goes my interest in maemo lol | 01:30 |
Juesto | yeah, thats better actually | 01:30 |
xmn | that wording does make more sense from someone who's not following all the changes. | 01:32 |
Juesto | Indeed | 01:32 |
xmn | "now included in ~CSSU replacing the original Hildon application Manager there" | 01:32 |
xmn | thank for that change! | 01:32 |
xmn | *thanks | 01:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | >>push-button wired POTS corded telephone from 1980 with an acoustic bell instead of an electronic tone generator<< intriguing smartass idea :-D | 01:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | did you know infobot also known as apt, thanks to which we got all that nice "expert system" | 01:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | thanks apt | 01:37 |
infobot | no worries, DocScrutinizer05 | 01:37 |
xmn | lol | 01:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | let's try some leete aptness | 01:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~dfind dbus | 01:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ugh | 01:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | [10 Sep 2019 00:40:08] <infobot> Updating debian files... please wait. | 01:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | [10 Sep 2019 00:40:13] <infobot> failed. | 01:40 |
xmn | haha, should have stopped while ahead ... lol | 01:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there's a command to tell apt/infobot _which_ debian release to update and search | 01:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I never use it so... no idea about the details | 01:42 |
xmn | heh, love all the useful bot stuff. Though I never use them much. | 01:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~+help ddesc | 01:43 |
infobot | Desc: Search the Description: lines in Debian packages | 01:43 |
infobot | Usage: ddesc <string> [dist] | 01:43 |
infobot | Example: ddesc mule | 01:43 |
infobot | Example: ddesc mule potato | 01:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~query | 01:43 |
infobot | talk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :) | 01:43 |
xmn | lol | 01:44 |
Juesto | lol | 01:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | a pity I can't use ~die like other normal users ;-D She takes my word literally | 01:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | the bot has quite some "Eliza" qualities ;-D | 01:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~attack xmn | 01:47 |
* infobot grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing xmn | 01:47 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | cya! | 01:48 |
xmn | haha, xman runs away | 01:48 |
xmn | see yah | 01:48 |
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Vajb | halftux said that he'll put server.tglpub file to his homepage, but what is his homepage :D | 10:40 |
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Halftux | Vajb: I forgot to directly put server.tglpub. However I put the old package 1.3.1-5 to my webspace so you need to extract the server.tglpub from it if it is ok for you | 11:26 |
Halftux | http://www.setius.net/downs/maemo/purple-protocol-telegram_1.3.1-5_armel.deb | 11:27 |
Halftux | otherwise I could upload only that file up to you | 11:28 |
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Vajb | Halftux: it seems to work now, thanks a lot | 11:36 |
Halftux | Vajb: what you did installed the old packages or using the server.tglpub file? | 11:44 |
Halftux | sicelo: I put new purple-protocol-telegram package and cutenews/cutetube2 workaround packages compiled everything with cssu/openssl1.1 environment. Feel free to try http://www.setius.net/downs/maemo/qtcssu/ | 11:47 |
sicelo | Halftux: will test. this should work with qt-cssu15? | 11:48 |
Halftux | yes | 11:48 |
sicelo | lovely. | 11:48 |
sicelo | i'll report back once tested | 11:48 |
Halftux | there is also a new and untested telegram-cli with sources in that folder | 11:50 |
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Vajb | Halftux: I installed old version, copied the server.tglpub, installed new version and put server.tglpub to /etc/telegram-purple folder | 13:11 |
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Vajb | btw. Are there any plans of implementing that super group feature of telegram? Im in one, and messages from there are not shown in telegram-purple. | 13:48 |
Vajb | super group being a group in which can be hundreds of ppl | 13:48 |
Halftux | Vajb: ok great that it work like this maybe next version I will upload to extras will have that file. However I think it is not needed and it seems it is some fallback. | 13:50 |
Halftux | Vajb: I think I am not able to implement this feature but you could request it at https://github.com/majn/telegram-purple However it seems it support supergroups there is an open ticket "can't send images to supergroup" maybe it does not work with our old pidgin | 13:55 |
Halftux | sicelo: about secret chats there is also a ticket https://github.com/majn/telegram-purple/issues/407 | 13:57 |
Halftux | sicelo: what kind of platform and telegram client is your sister using | 13:59 |
sicelo | she's using the standard Android client on Android 9 (Nokia 3) | 14:08 |
Vajb | Halftux: ok, thx for information. I'll consider if I really need a feature in which hundreds of users spam my device with pointless memes :) | 14:30 |
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halftux | sixwheeledbeast: don't be scared I added my cssu-thumb notes to maemo wiki https://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU-thumb_toolchain_setup_(gcc4.7.2-linaro) | 22:50 |
sixwheeledbeast | no worries? | 22:51 |
halftux | why? | 22:58 |
halftux | me not | 22:58 |
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sixwheeledbeast | It's fine, was just confused why I would be scared :) | 23:05 |
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