IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2019-02-09

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WikiwideOkay. QML-BROWSER from TMO (see Nwer... Thread), Libssl1.1 from community-devel and qt-components-hildon from extras-devel, libqt4 libraries from community-devel (script, network, maemo5, gui, declarative, dbus, core, webkit, xml, svg, opengl, xmlpatterns, sql, phonon, sql-sqlite, multimedia).00:37
WikiwideNow, in Qml-browser SSL is Probably Okay. Which is an achievement, compared against Bad for MicroB.00:38
WikiwideNow, immersive technologies... Take a long time to load, but that's normal, WiFi signal isn't strong.00:41
Maxdamantusqml-browser seems to just use libssl0.9.8 for me.00:42
WikiwideMaxdamantus : it was so for me... Before I installed libssl1.1 and all the abovementioned packages.00:43
MaxdamantusAh.00:43
WikiwideI wish there was an error console or something in Qml-browser. It's taking ages to load the webpage for 3D glasses...00:44
WikiwideWell, at least, I give it points for trying. It knows title of the page ;-)00:45
WikiwideJunglefy Upstairs Shade House00:45
WikiwideLoading...00:48
WikiwideOh dear. Scrolling is weird. I see an image, but it doesn't make sense.00:54
WikiwideAnd now screen is black. Too large image for qml-browser to handle?00:56
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WikiwideIf I want to upgrade qml-browser's ability to handle JS, is it sufficient to upgrade libqt4-webkit?01:38
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Enrico_M_RX-51wikiwide I was following with interest your talk yesterday, and tried qml-browser.01:43
Enrico_M_RX-51Enabled cssu-devel from merlin's mirror and extras-devel from maemo.org.01:44
Enrico_M_RX-51Installed openssl and qt4 via apt-get (just 2 commands, qt4 brings automatically all its libraries).01:46
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Enrico_M_RX-51Then qml-browser from extras-devel via ham.01:47
Enrico_M_RX-51I didn't find issues with certificates, but pages generally don't work well (javascript?).01:48
Enrico_M_RX-51In addition, screen rotation does not work.01:49
Enrico_M_RX-51Also, weird "random" auto capitalization in address bar and forms.01:50
* Maxdamantus couldn't tell whether his pages were not loading due to lack of trust in certificates or a protocol error.01:51
MaxdamantusWas just showing a blank screen when loading something like https://maxdamantus.eu.org/01:51
Enrico_M_RX-51And when you go to see all open apps (top left, status bar, small windows) the qml-browser window is not filled (only frame).01:51
WikiwideI got qml-browser from https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=100343&page=201:52
WikiwideEnrico_M_RX-51: Happens sometimes, empty frame.01:52
Wikiwidehttps://maxdamantus.eu.org/ : 403 Forbidden01:54
WikiwideTo upgrade JS in qml-browser, is it sufficient to upgrade libqt4-webkit? Or is something else needed?01:58
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Enrico_M_RX-51wikiwide I have qml-browser_0.9.0_armel.deb from extras-devel.02:04
WikiwideNod. I have 0.9.0 from TMO - apparently compiled with libssl1.1 in mind.02:05
Enrico_M_RX-51Actually in TMO it's 0.9.0cssu.02:06
Enrico_M_RX-51I wonder whether that makes any difference.02:06
WikiwideNo idea how extras-devel compares against that. Because I do have qt-components-hildon from extras-devel.02:06
WikiwideYes, it may make a difference regarding handling ssl/tls/security/whatever.02:07
WikiwideJust don't forget libqt4 libraries from community-devel - cssu15, not cssu12.02:08
Enrico_M_RX-51I didn't install explicitly qt-components-hildon. I have 0.26.2, I think got from extras-devel automatically.02:11
WikiwideThat's fine.02:12
Enrico_M_RX-51(when installed qml-browser via ham)02:12
MaxdamantusWikiwide: right, do you get that 403 in qml-browser?02:12
WikiwideYes02:13
Enrico_M_RX-51wikiwide libqt4-core:02:16
Enrico_M_RX-51  Installed: 1:4.7.4~git20110505+cssu1502:16
Enrico_M_RX-51(to check just the first)02:16
Enrico_M_RX-51I will try the qml-browser from TMO, just to see.02:18
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Enrico_M_RX-51Done. Still same problems as before (no rotation, empty frame, bad caps - it's the 'c', it's inverted).02:34
WikiwideDon't know about rotation - I keep rotation lock enabled. Most of the time, frame isn't empty for me. Don't notice caps - I don't get many opportunities to type in web pages.02:36
Enrico_M_RX-51caps also in address bar.02:38
Enrico_M_RX-51Italian keys here.02:38
Enrico_M_RX-51If that matters.02:39
Enrico_M_RX-51Never seen frame filled.02:39
Enrico_M_RX-51Wrong, it just filled.02:40
Enrico_M_RX-51:P02:40
WikiwideHeh. Don't notice anything like this in qml-browser address bar. But "cat" became "caUERY%"02:40
WikiwidecatUERY% *02:41
WikiwideAnd dog became dogUERY%02:42
WikiwideWith default DuckDuckGo search engine02:42
Enrico_M_RX-51:D02:42
WikiwideEasy. Mismatch of %q in one place and %query% in another place.02:43
Enrico_M_RX-51Me as well!02:44
Enrico_M_RX-51But it's not that bad. Although not everything works.02:47
WikiwideEdit .config/QMLBrowser/searchengines with text editor of your choice02:47
Enrico_M_RX-51I tried paypal.com. Can't close the cookie banner.02:48
Enrico_M_RX-51wikiwide The query doesn't look bad. How do I find the syntax? And for Google?02:53
Wikiwidehttp://www.google.com/m/search?client=ms-nokia-maemo&channel=unibox&q=%Q02:54
Wikiwidesearchengines file looks simple, but you can also add search engines via Qml-browser GUI, in Settings02:54
Enrico_M_RX-51Yes, seen that.02:55
Enrico_M_RX-51So the search term is %Q, not %QUERY%?02:56
WikiwideYes02:56
WikiwideTo avoid UERY%02:56
Enrico_M_RX-51In fact, same pb with Wikipedia.02:57
WikiwideYes02:58
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Enrico_M_RX-51Mh. Corrected the query, but I can't switch search engine.03:12
Enrico_M_RX-51They show up, but in the end it's always the duck.03:12
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brolin_empeyApparently jwz.org is an HTTPS Web site that I cannot load in MicroB nor Opera on my Maemo 5 installation due to outdated TLS client software.  So now I have seen the failure mode.  Apparently the HTTPS Web sites I created for a customer of my company using apache2 + a wildcard certificate from Let’s Encrypt using acme.sh are compatible with my Maemo 5 installation, though.12:31
MaxdamantusThe Let's Encrypt part should just be a matter of having the right certificates. No reliance on particular versions of protocols.12:35
MaxdamantusAnyway, jwz.org works for me on Opera, because of my MITM program.12:36
inzhttps://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=jwz.org shows OpenSSL 0.9.8y under "Not simulated programs (Protocol mismatch)"12:37
brolin_empeyACK.12:42
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Vajbhmm it is starting to seem that Pidgin is to be blamed for my "lost cellular connection"14:14
Vajbbut don't ask me how it is possible.14:14
VajbI was doing fine for many hours. Did some irc and some light use, but when I started messaging in facebook. Device lost network and that happened three times during one conversation. Now I will disable facebook from pidgin and see what happens.14:17
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sicelo:P14:33
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Vajboh well. Shut down pidgin as a whole now.14:39
siceloi use facebook with pidgin sometimes, and have not observed any connection issues (besides slightly faster battery drain)14:41
VajbI'll keep it shut for a day now and see if I lose connection or not.14:45
Vajbbut this can all be a coincidence and my modem is just dying slowly14:46
siceloor just your sim14:47
Vajbbut let the reason be any it is still a tadd annoying.14:47
Vajbwell, next week I'll ask or new sim and change provider if they refuse to give me one.14:51
Vajbfor*14:51
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brolin_empeyFennec in my Maemo 5 installation cannot load jwz.org either but I did not check if Fennec can load anything else because that required more patience than I had because my N900 user experience is still too bad (too slow, too unresponsive, GUI keeps stopping responding, too frustrating to use).20:31
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brolin_empeyVajb: Have you tried using ethanol or isopropyl alcohol to clean the contacts of your SIM?  Sometimes I have to do that with the contacts on my laundry smart card.21:57
VajbI wiped it clean with electronics oil which claimed to make better contact.22:03
Vajbbut now I know it is not pidgin's fault22:04
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ontimealso can be gsm antenna contacts, if not, most probably gsm chip fault couse of bga23:31
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