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| Wikiwide | Okay. QML-BROWSER from TMO (see Nwer... Thread), Libssl1.1 from community-devel and qt-components-hildon from extras-devel, libqt4 libraries from community-devel (script, network, maemo5, gui, declarative, dbus, core, webkit, xml, svg, opengl, xmlpatterns, sql, phonon, sql-sqlite, multimedia). | 00:37 |
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| Wikiwide | Now, in Qml-browser SSL is Probably Okay. Which is an achievement, compared against Bad for MicroB. | 00:38 |
| Wikiwide | Now, immersive technologies... Take a long time to load, but that's normal, WiFi signal isn't strong. | 00:41 |
| Maxdamantus | qml-browser seems to just use libssl0.9.8 for me. | 00:42 |
| Wikiwide | Maxdamantus : it was so for me... Before I installed libssl1.1 and all the abovementioned packages. | 00:43 |
| Maxdamantus | Ah. | 00:43 |
| Wikiwide | I wish there was an error console or something in Qml-browser. It's taking ages to load the webpage for 3D glasses... | 00:44 |
| Wikiwide | Well, at least, I give it points for trying. It knows title of the page ;-) | 00:45 |
| Wikiwide | Junglefy Upstairs Shade House | 00:45 |
| Wikiwide | Loading... | 00:48 |
| Wikiwide | Oh dear. Scrolling is weird. I see an image, but it doesn't make sense. | 00:54 |
| Wikiwide | And now screen is black. Too large image for qml-browser to handle? | 00:56 |
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| Wikiwide | If I want to upgrade qml-browser's ability to handle JS, is it sufficient to upgrade libqt4-webkit? | 01:38 |
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| Enrico_M_RX-51 | wikiwide I was following with interest your talk yesterday, and tried qml-browser. | 01:43 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Enabled cssu-devel from merlin's mirror and extras-devel from maemo.org. | 01:44 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Installed openssl and qt4 via apt-get (just 2 commands, qt4 brings automatically all its libraries). | 01:46 |
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| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Then qml-browser from extras-devel via ham. | 01:47 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | I didn't find issues with certificates, but pages generally don't work well (javascript?). | 01:48 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | In addition, screen rotation does not work. | 01:49 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Also, weird "random" auto capitalization in address bar and forms. | 01:50 |
| * Maxdamantus couldn't tell whether his pages were not loading due to lack of trust in certificates or a protocol error. | 01:51 | |
| Maxdamantus | Was just showing a blank screen when loading something like https://maxdamantus.eu.org/ | 01:51 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | And when you go to see all open apps (top left, status bar, small windows) the qml-browser window is not filled (only frame). | 01:51 |
| Wikiwide | I got qml-browser from https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=100343&page=2 | 01:52 |
| Wikiwide | Enrico_M_RX-51: Happens sometimes, empty frame. | 01:52 |
| Wikiwide | https://maxdamantus.eu.org/ : 403 Forbidden | 01:54 |
| Wikiwide | To upgrade JS in qml-browser, is it sufficient to upgrade libqt4-webkit? Or is something else needed? | 01:58 |
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| Enrico_M_RX-51 | wikiwide I have qml-browser_0.9.0_armel.deb from extras-devel. | 02:04 |
| Wikiwide | Nod. I have 0.9.0 from TMO - apparently compiled with libssl1.1 in mind. | 02:05 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Actually in TMO it's 0.9.0cssu. | 02:06 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | I wonder whether that makes any difference. | 02:06 |
| Wikiwide | No idea how extras-devel compares against that. Because I do have qt-components-hildon from extras-devel. | 02:06 |
| Wikiwide | Yes, it may make a difference regarding handling ssl/tls/security/whatever. | 02:07 |
| Wikiwide | Just don't forget libqt4 libraries from community-devel - cssu15, not cssu12. | 02:08 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | I didn't install explicitly qt-components-hildon. I have 0.26.2, I think got from extras-devel automatically. | 02:11 |
| Wikiwide | That's fine. | 02:12 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | (when installed qml-browser via ham) | 02:12 |
| Maxdamantus | Wikiwide: right, do you get that 403 in qml-browser? | 02:12 |
| Wikiwide | Yes | 02:13 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | wikiwide libqt4-core: | 02:16 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Installed: 1:4.7.4~git20110505+cssu15 | 02:16 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | (to check just the first) | 02:16 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | I will try the qml-browser from TMO, just to see. | 02:18 |
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| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Done. Still same problems as before (no rotation, empty frame, bad caps - it's the 'c', it's inverted). | 02:34 |
| Wikiwide | Don't know about rotation - I keep rotation lock enabled. Most of the time, frame isn't empty for me. Don't notice caps - I don't get many opportunities to type in web pages. | 02:36 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | caps also in address bar. | 02:38 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Italian keys here. | 02:38 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | If that matters. | 02:39 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Never seen frame filled. | 02:39 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Wrong, it just filled. | 02:40 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | :P | 02:40 |
| Wikiwide | Heh. Don't notice anything like this in qml-browser address bar. But "cat" became "caUERY%" | 02:40 |
| Wikiwide | catUERY% * | 02:41 |
| Wikiwide | And dog became dogUERY% | 02:42 |
| Wikiwide | With default DuckDuckGo search engine | 02:42 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | :D | 02:42 |
| Wikiwide | Easy. Mismatch of %q in one place and %query% in another place. | 02:43 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Me as well! | 02:44 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | But it's not that bad. Although not everything works. | 02:47 |
| Wikiwide | Edit .config/QMLBrowser/searchengines with text editor of your choice | 02:47 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | I tried paypal.com. Can't close the cookie banner. | 02:48 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | wikiwide The query doesn't look bad. How do I find the syntax? And for Google? | 02:53 |
| Wikiwide | http://www.google.com/m/search?client=ms-nokia-maemo&channel=unibox&q=%Q | 02:54 |
| Wikiwide | searchengines file looks simple, but you can also add search engines via Qml-browser GUI, in Settings | 02:54 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Yes, seen that. | 02:55 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | So the search term is %Q, not %QUERY%? | 02:56 |
| Wikiwide | Yes | 02:56 |
| Wikiwide | To avoid UERY% | 02:56 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | In fact, same pb with Wikipedia. | 02:57 |
| Wikiwide | Yes | 02:58 |
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| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Mh. Corrected the query, but I can't switch search engine. | 03:12 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | They show up, but in the end it's always the duck. | 03:12 |
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| brolin_empey | Apparently jwz.org is an HTTPS Web site that I cannot load in MicroB nor Opera on my Maemo 5 installation due to outdated TLS client software. So now I have seen the failure mode. Apparently the HTTPS Web sites I created for a customer of my company using apache2 + a wildcard certificate from Let’s Encrypt using acme.sh are compatible with my Maemo 5 installation, though. | 12:31 |
| Maxdamantus | The Let's Encrypt part should just be a matter of having the right certificates. No reliance on particular versions of protocols. | 12:35 |
| Maxdamantus | Anyway, jwz.org works for me on Opera, because of my MITM program. | 12:36 |
| inz | https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=jwz.org shows OpenSSL 0.9.8y under "Not simulated programs (Protocol mismatch)" | 12:37 |
| brolin_empey | ACK. | 12:42 |
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| Vajb | hmm it is starting to seem that Pidgin is to be blamed for my "lost cellular connection" | 14:14 |
| Vajb | but don't ask me how it is possible. | 14:14 |
| Vajb | I was doing fine for many hours. Did some irc and some light use, but when I started messaging in facebook. Device lost network and that happened three times during one conversation. Now I will disable facebook from pidgin and see what happens. | 14:17 |
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| sicelo | :P | 14:33 |
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| Vajb | oh well. Shut down pidgin as a whole now. | 14:39 |
| sicelo | i use facebook with pidgin sometimes, and have not observed any connection issues (besides slightly faster battery drain) | 14:41 |
| Vajb | I'll keep it shut for a day now and see if I lose connection or not. | 14:45 |
| Vajb | but this can all be a coincidence and my modem is just dying slowly | 14:46 |
| sicelo | or just your sim | 14:47 |
| Vajb | but let the reason be any it is still a tadd annoying. | 14:47 |
| Vajb | well, next week I'll ask or new sim and change provider if they refuse to give me one. | 14:51 |
| Vajb | for* | 14:51 |
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| brolin_empey | Fennec in my Maemo 5 installation cannot load jwz.org either but I did not check if Fennec can load anything else because that required more patience than I had because my N900 user experience is still too bad (too slow, too unresponsive, GUI keeps stopping responding, too frustrating to use). | 20:31 |
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| brolin_empey | Vajb: Have you tried using ethanol or isopropyl alcohol to clean the contacts of your SIM? Sometimes I have to do that with the contacts on my laundry smart card. | 21:57 |
| Vajb | I wiped it clean with electronics oil which claimed to make better contact. | 22:03 |
| Vajb | but now I know it is not pidgin's fault | 22:04 |
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| ontime | also can be gsm antenna contacts, if not, most probably gsm chip fault couse of bga | 23:31 |
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