IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2019-01-29

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DocScrutinizer05Enrico_M_RX-51: iirc there was a never solved glitch in BT depending on sequence of pairing stuff. Unpairing and re-pairing all devices helped01:27
Enrico_M_RX-51DocScrutinizer05 So you think that the reason why now bt works is just a better pairing, and not related to the packages I installed?01:33
Enrico_M_RX-51I had already tried repairing, with no avail. After installing the packages, things worked at first try.01:35
Enrico_M_RX-51Other topic: I tried a couple of youtube clients, but they don't work. Is there anything working nowadays?01:37
Enrico_M_RX-51Also, a strange thing: today I installed two applications, Opera and cutetube, but I don't get the icons in the app launcher.01:41
Enrico_M_RX-51Removed cutetube, no icon for opera. Installed wolan, icon for this AND opera (!).01:53
DocScrutinizer05well, the new packages are for sure a more plausible reason for things working now02:02
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DocScrutinizer05re icons in applauncher: there's a icon update job that should get started by the apt postinstall script. I can't recall the script name right now off top of my head02:05
Enrico_M_RX-51So for some reason the script did not work for opera and cutetube.02:07
DocScrutinizer05prolly jobname was update-desktop-database or another of the update<TAB><TAB>02:08
DocScrutinizer05yes, that's a known issue that smetimes this script fails02:09
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DocScrutinizer05btw I think you need at least cutetube202:09
Enrico_M_RX-51Trying with mediabox, but seems no better.02:10
DocScrutinizer05sorry wrong job02:13
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DocScrutinizer05I guess you already restarted desktip / device?02:20
Enrico_M_RX-51No, since now I have all icons.02:20
DocScrutinizer05Enrico_M_RX-51: /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache02:25
DocScrutinizer05found thabnks to my great tool whichgrep02:26
DocScrutinizer05alias whichgrep='find `echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /g"` -iname '02:26
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# whichgrep '*icon*'02:27
Enrico_M_RX-51Thanks, for now won't look further. Just in case.02:28
* DocScrutinizer05 finally needs to make a script that deploys all the aliases and bash startup scripts to $user@$targetmachine02:38
Enrico_M_RX-51Installed cutetube2, founds videos but cant play them. Again no icon; ran that script as root. No result.02:50
DocScrutinizer05restart gildon-desktop02:50
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DocScrutinizer05hildon even02:51
DocScrutinizer05actually simply kill it02:51
Enrico_M_RX-51kill pid?02:51
Enrico_M_RX-51Ok, worked.02:53
Enrico_M_RX-51But cutetube2 not.02:53
Enrico_M_RX-51That's it for today. Bedtime. Bye!02:54
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brolin_empeyVajb: If you only need to host a static Web site or even a dynamic one if it can work with the software in Ubuntu 8.10, I can provide you hosting on my virtual dedicated server in Toronto.09:37
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WikiwideAbiword is Gtk+, but not exactly Hildon - menu is atrocious, just like navit-gtk. And, when I ask File Manager to open .rtf with Abiword, Abiword fires up... Without the file, just Untitled.13:11
WikiwideMaemoPad is far more Hildonised, but... Instead of "Send with Email", "Send with Bluetooth" in menu, there should be single Share button, like everywhere.13:12
WikiwideAnd, MaemoPad, "Close" button should not be on menu! See top right corner.13:13
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WikiwideGranted, MaemoPad can only open plain text files?13:16
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WikiwideI wish I knew which Linux program treats RTF as native format, not as nuisance.13:18
WikiwideSo far, Libreoffice is best but far from perfect?13:18
KotCzarnyit's nice because it's multiplatform13:19
KotCzarnybut not really suited for 800x48013:19
WikiwideFormatting is the trouble. Text is easy.13:19
KotCzarnyyou can always convert text format13:19
KotCzarnywith cmdline tools13:19
WikiwideI don't care much for multi-platform programs. Libreoffice tends to depend on Java and be slow?13:20
KotCzarnyit depends on java for some functions only13:20
KotCzarnyi think13:20
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WikiwideEither way, I don't think libreoffice is in Maemo repositories?13:21
KotCzarnyi bet it requires recent libs13:21
KotCzarnynot to mention heaps of memory13:22
WikiwideHeaps of memory, yesss... I would understand it for a docx, but I just wish for a text editor for a humble rtf.13:23
KotCzarnyabiword then13:23
KotCzarnyor rtf->html and some html editor13:23
KotCzarnybut that becomes a heap of trash sooner or later13:24
WikiwideUnless there is a more universally readable format for text document with formatting? And, HTML is bad at being a document - it doesn't understand pages.13:24
WikiwideLaTeX to PDF sounds excellent.13:25
KotCzarnyand yes, latex is universal academic formatting format13:25
WikiwideI wish... Docx is universal academic format, half of the time, in my humble experience.13:26
WikiwideExcept, the only GUI for that is LyX, Qt-based.13:26
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WikiwideAnybody game to feed a LyX deb to auto-builder?13:32
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brolin_empeyLibreOffice needs a JRE only for Base as far as I know.13:45
brolin_empeyCSS can control page breaks in an HTML document.13:46
KotCzarnyhtml sucks for books13:46
KotCzarnyalthough if one doesnt care much for layout it's fine13:46
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brolin_empeyMaybe the Xanadu project of Ted Nelson is a paged medium?  The World Wide Web is a continuous (non-paged) medium but CSS allows some control over paging.13:52
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brolin_empeyGopher still exists too but I do not know if it offers a benefit for the use case of Oksana.13:54
brolin_empeyYou can still use PostScript but even the “Adobe Reader” can read only PDF, not PostScript.13:57
KotCzarnypdf is subset of postscript13:58
KotCzarnyor it was long time ago13:58
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DocScrutinizer05>>when I ask File Manager to open .rtf with Abiword, Abiword fires up... Without the file<< check the desktop file, if the app gets file parameter in there18:51
DocScrutinizer05>>a more universally readable format for text document with formatting<< LaTex, but you mentioned that a few lines down already18:55
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DocScrutinizer05you should invent non-paged books instead ;-P Like Tora rolls, only modern and miniaturized and motorized19:00
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sunshaviWikiwide: epub is a nice format is is html based there is a pkg "dorian" for reading epubs on n90022:56
sunshavipandoc o calibre are the tools 4 converting among different formats22:57
* Maxdamantus imagines the best way to use epub would be to just run an HTTP server for it.23:35
* Maxdamantus uses ZIM on N900 similarly: just running kiwix-serve and loading pages through Opera.23:36

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