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| DocScrutinizer05 | Enrico_M_RX-51: iirc there was a never solved glitch in BT depending on sequence of pairing stuff. Unpairing and re-pairing all devices helped | 01:27 |
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| Enrico_M_RX-51 | DocScrutinizer05 So you think that the reason why now bt works is just a better pairing, and not related to the packages I installed? | 01:33 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | I had already tried repairing, with no avail. After installing the packages, things worked at first try. | 01:35 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | re-pairing... | 01:35 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Other topic: I tried a couple of youtube clients, but they don't work. Is there anything working nowadays? | 01:37 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Also, a strange thing: today I installed two applications, Opera and cutetube, but I don't get the icons in the app launcher. | 01:41 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Removed cutetube, no icon for opera. Installed wolan, icon for this AND opera (!). | 01:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, the new packages are for sure a more plausible reason for things working now | 02:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | re icons in applauncher: there's a icon update job that should get started by the apt postinstall script. I can't recall the script name right now off top of my head | 02:05 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | So for some reason the script did not work for opera and cutetube. | 02:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly jobname was update-desktop-database or another of the update<TAB><TAB> | 02:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, that's a known issue that smetimes this script fails | 02:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | btw I think you need at least cutetube2 | 02:09 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Trying with mediabox, but seems no better. | 02:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/update-desktop-database.1.html wrong job | 02:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess you already restarted desktip / device? | 02:20 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | No, since now I have all icons. | 02:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Enrico_M_RX-51: /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | found thabnks to my great tool whichgrep | 02:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alias whichgrep='find `echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /g"` -iname ' | 02:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# whichgrep '*icon*' | 02:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 02:27 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Thanks, for now won't look further. Just in case. | 02:28 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 finally needs to make a script that deploys all the aliases and bash startup scripts to $user@$targetmachine | 02:38 | |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Installed cutetube2, founds videos but cant play them. Again no icon; ran that script as root. No result. | 02:50 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | finds... | 02:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | restart gildon-desktop | 02:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hildon even | 02:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually simply kill it | 02:51 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | kill pid? | 02:51 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | Ok, worked. | 02:53 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | But cutetube2 not. | 02:53 |
| Enrico_M_RX-51 | That's it for today. Bedtime. Bye! | 02:54 |
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| brolin_empey | Vajb: If you only need to host a static Web site or even a dynamic one if it can work with the software in Ubuntu 8.10, I can provide you hosting on my virtual dedicated server in Toronto. | 09:37 |
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| Wikiwide | Abiword is Gtk+, but not exactly Hildon - menu is atrocious, just like navit-gtk. And, when I ask File Manager to open .rtf with Abiword, Abiword fires up... Without the file, just Untitled. | 13:11 |
| Wikiwide | MaemoPad is far more Hildonised, but... Instead of "Send with Email", "Send with Bluetooth" in menu, there should be single Share button, like everywhere. | 13:12 |
| Wikiwide | And, MaemoPad, "Close" button should not be on menu! See top right corner. | 13:13 |
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| Wikiwide | Granted, MaemoPad can only open plain text files? | 13:16 |
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| Wikiwide | I wish I knew which Linux program treats RTF as native format, not as nuisance. | 13:18 |
| KotCzarny | libreoffice? | 13:18 |
| Wikiwide | So far, Libreoffice is best but far from perfect? | 13:18 |
| KotCzarny | it's nice because it's multiplatform | 13:19 |
| KotCzarny | but not really suited for 800x480 | 13:19 |
| Wikiwide | Formatting is the trouble. Text is easy. | 13:19 |
| KotCzarny | you can always convert text format | 13:19 |
| KotCzarny | with cmdline tools | 13:19 |
| Wikiwide | I don't care much for multi-platform programs. Libreoffice tends to depend on Java and be slow? | 13:20 |
| KotCzarny | it depends on java for some functions only | 13:20 |
| KotCzarny | i think | 13:20 |
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| Wikiwide | Either way, I don't think libreoffice is in Maemo repositories? | 13:21 |
| KotCzarny | i bet it requires recent libs | 13:21 |
| KotCzarny | not to mention heaps of memory | 13:22 |
| Wikiwide | Heaps of memory, yesss... I would understand it for a docx, but I just wish for a text editor for a humble rtf. | 13:23 |
| KotCzarny | abiword then | 13:23 |
| KotCzarny | or rtf->html and some html editor | 13:23 |
| KotCzarny | but that becomes a heap of trash sooner or later | 13:24 |
| Wikiwide | Unless there is a more universally readable format for text document with formatting? And, HTML is bad at being a document - it doesn't understand pages. | 13:24 |
| KotCzarny | pdf? | 13:24 |
| KotCzarny | :P | 13:24 |
| Wikiwide | LaTeX to PDF sounds excellent. | 13:25 |
| KotCzarny | and yes, latex is universal academic formatting format | 13:25 |
| Wikiwide | I wish... Docx is universal academic format, half of the time, in my humble experience. | 13:26 |
| Wikiwide | Except, the only GUI for that is LyX, Qt-based. | 13:26 |
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| Wikiwide | https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30876 | 13:31 |
| Wikiwide | Anybody game to feed a LyX deb to auto-builder? | 13:32 |
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| brolin_empey | LibreOffice needs a JRE only for Base as far as I know. | 13:45 |
| brolin_empey | CSS can control page breaks in an HTML document. | 13:46 |
| KotCzarny | html sucks for books | 13:46 |
| KotCzarny | although if one doesnt care much for layout it's fine | 13:46 |
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| brolin_empey | Maybe the Xanadu project of Ted Nelson is a paged medium? The World Wide Web is a continuous (non-paged) medium but CSS allows some control over paging. | 13:52 |
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| brolin_empey | Gopher still exists too but I do not know if it offers a benefit for the use case of Oksana. | 13:54 |
| brolin_empey | You can still use PostScript but even the “Adobe Reader” can read only PDF, not PostScript. | 13:57 |
| KotCzarny | pdf is subset of postscript | 13:58 |
| KotCzarny | or it was long time ago | 13:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | >>when I ask File Manager to open .rtf with Abiword, Abiword fires up... Without the file<< check the desktop file, if the app gets file parameter in there | 18:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>a more universally readable format for text document with formatting<< LaTex, but you mentioned that a few lines down already | 18:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | you should invent non-paged books instead ;-P Like Tora rolls, only modern and miniaturized and motorized | 19:00 |
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| sunshavi | Wikiwide: epub is a nice format is is html based there is a pkg "dorian" for reading epubs on n900 | 22:56 |
| sunshavi | pandoc o calibre are the tools 4 converting among different formats | 22:57 |
| * Maxdamantus imagines the best way to use epub would be to just run an HTTP server for it. | 23:35 | |
| * Maxdamantus uses ZIM on N900 similarly: just running kiwix-serve and loading pages through Opera. | 23:36 | |
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