IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2018-09-18

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sixwheeledbeastI think pastebin looks normal but it has been a while.12:30
KotCzarnymaybe he just needs some if [ -f ... ]; then rm ...; fi in installation script12:33
KotCzarnyusers are easily scared of error messages12:33
sixwheeledbeastflopswap creates it's own sudoers IIRC there is update preinst and postinst due to some compatibility between flopswap versions and upstart version. flopswap needs to know which version of upstart due to differences.12:34
KotCzarnyi'm just commenting on that single rm line in pastebin12:35
KotCzarnyunless he confirms flopswap doesnt work or something12:35
sixwheeledbeastI felt at the time that, echo "try to remove previous file" was enough to justify the rm: no file exists.12:37
sixwheeledbeastI agree it would be nicer12:41
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sixwheeledbeastLooking at your pastebin again i would say that ssh would be my first guess at your sudo issue.12:44
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DocScrutinizer05UMMM  >> Remove sudoers Update sudoers<<16:59
DocScrutinizer05are you sure this does the right thing[TM]?17:00
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DocScrutinizer05I guess when anybody would remove sudoers on my system, I'd prolly fetch the sledgehammer ;-D Unless this script is WAY smarter than the diagnostic output suggests17:01
DocScrutinizer05for sure my recent sudoers is not compatible with a braindead remoce&&replace script17:02
DocScrutinizer05not saying the actual flopswap was braindead in that regard, I didn't look into it17:03
DocScrutinizer05just saying my sudoers prolly look quite different than what you might have expected, and replacing them by a (modified) default version might cause havoc17:04
DocScrutinizer05actually maemo5 sudoers is a tricky critter since it doesn'T yet support sudoers.d/* genuinely and instead runs a script ... ... which is exactly what might produce the diagnostic output quoted above17:06
DocScrutinizer05so maybe it's the OP ( <{-0-}> ?) who messed up sudoers by editing the /wtc/sudoers file in a way they better had not?17:07
DocScrutinizer05W*T*F?????  >>Installing new version of config file /etc/event.d/avahi-daemon<<17:09
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: there are TWO "Remove sudoers" in flopswap context. I think that's one too many17:12
DocScrutinizer05line 41 and line 6117:12
DocScrutinizer05in pastebin17:13
sixwheeledbeastSee above, I can't recall reason but I had to deal with compatibility between flopswap versions and upstart versions.17:17
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sixwheeledbeastflopswap only touches a flopswap.sudoers file IIRC17:27
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sixwheeledbeastcertainly not replacing any systems files with a stock version like seen in other packages.17:34
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DocScrutinizer05maybe a former flopswap version did, though?17:50
sixwheeledbeastline 41 is version 0.1.9 postrm and line 61 is version 0.2.4 postinst.17:50
DocScrutinizer05hmm, I wonder what happens when two instances of update_sudoers run concurrently17:51
DocScrutinizer05prolly disaster17:51
sixwheeledbeastI can't see how that could happen, debian install scripts are ran sequentially17:54
DocScrutinizer05no idea if update_sudoers spawns an async process18:31
DocScrutinizer05anyway the most plausible cause in my book is >>maybe it's the OP ( <{-0-}> ?) who messed up sudoers by editing the /wtc/sudoers file in a way they better had not?<<18:32
DocScrutinizer05it's a known and seen frequently problem that users unaware of update-sudoers (and ignoring the warnings in /etc/sudoers) run into fubar sudoers after next time update-sudoers is running18:34
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* {-0-} comes from Slackware... sudo is the land of the unknown :D No, I hadn't, still haven't and won't edit sudoers20:37
KotCzarnydont lie. sudo is essential in slack too20:37
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{-0-}true, it's there. "su -" once then do all your root stuff rather than typing 5 extra chars on every command20:39
KotCzarnyyes, till you shoot yourself in the foot20:39
{-0-}that's part of learning :)20:40
KotCzarny(although i have root terminal open, so i'm guilty too)20:40
KotCzarnybut sudo is still important20:41
KotCzarnyfor the user, and for misc. system scripts20:41
{-0-}root shell with different colour prompt from the user shell works here *touch wood*20:43
KotCzarnyyou need to knock on wood. touching your wood is teens fun20:55
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{-0-}Ah, the US version of the phrase! Unless of course this stuff gives you a woody which case... */me edges away from KotCzarny*22:52
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