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| bencoh | for the record, dbus-send --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.marxoft.cutetube2 / org.marxoft.cutetube2.showResource string:"$URL" works | 00:58 |
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| bencoh | but it only works for http:// urls (no https) | 00:58 |
| bencoh | (http:// results in a 302 redir to https page, which cutetube2 eventually follows) | 00:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, prolly by the time cutetube2 got coded, nobody thought sending broadcast content via HTTPS was a smart idea ;-) | 02:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually I still doubt it | 02:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there are usecases where I explicitly want to be allowed to trade in "privacy" for significantly lower CPU load - youtube clearly being one of them | 02:49 |
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| rhombus | Hi everybody! The first time I connect my N900 as a USB mass storage device after booting, I can see two shares, NOKIA and Nokia N900 . Every time after that, I see only NOKIA. In order to access the other share, I have to reboot the phone. | 10:59 |
| KotCzarny | do you have anything that blocks sdcard from umounting? | 10:59 |
| rhombus | KotCzarny: unmounts seem to work fine, I unmount the device from my host device (a Linux laptop), get a message (from the laptop) saying the device is safe to remove, and then disconnect the cable. | 11:00 |
| rhombus | KotCzarny: You think maybe the share is not being unmounted cleanly? | 11:01 |
| sicelo | what are those shares by the way? in other words, what is NOKIA? i guess Nokia N900 is MyDocs? | 11:02 |
| rhombus | sicelo: NOKIA contains "DCIM" (Camera folder, I am assuming), "System Volume Information" and "systemBackups" | 11:03 |
| rhombus | sicelo: contents of Nokia N900 do not correspond to what is in /home/user/MyDocs (which is empty) | 11:04 |
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| Halftux | I think os can't unmount the mmc you could try osso-mmc-umount.sh /dev/mmcblk0p1 and see what happens | 11:29 |
| Halftux | to mount it for mass storage it is osso-usb-mass-storage-enable.sh /dev/mmcblk0p1 | 11:30 |
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| rhombus | Halftux: where do I find osso-usb-mass-storage.sh? It's not in the path (at least, for the unprivileged user) | 12:03 |
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| Vajb | bencoh: i have absolutely zero recollection what i meant :D | 13:09 |
| Vajb | i'll investigate and report back. I think i used custom url handler and that i used also some other tool to sniff dbus info | 13:10 |
| Vajb | maybe mdbus2 | 13:10 |
| Vajb | but now when i check custom url handlers it claims that i have none | 13:11 |
| bencoh | Vajb: nevermind, the line I posted a few hours later works :) | 13:12 |
| bencoh | and yeah, mdbus2 is more convenient when it comes to discovery (introspection) | 13:12 |
| KotCzarny | wiki'ize it! | 13:12 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 13:12 |
| bencoh | :) | 13:13 |
| KotCzarny | or better, ask cutetube2 author to provide handler? | 13:13 |
| bencoh | handler for? | 13:13 |
| KotCzarny | for youtube links maybe | 13:14 |
| bencoh | yeah, but for? microb? | 13:14 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 13:14 |
| bencoh | afaict all http(s):// links go to microb by default | 13:14 |
| bencoh | so we'd need an extension for it | 13:14 |
| KotCzarny | yes, but extension | 13:14 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 13:14 |
| Vajb | ok nice to read it works | 13:14 |
| bencoh | but, err ... that'd be a good idea yeah | 13:15 |
| bencoh | since youtube isn't usable as-is anyway | 13:15 |
| Vajb | some version of cutetube used to sniff clipboard fro yt urls, but that no longer works | 13:16 |
| Vajb | for* | 13:16 |
| Vajb | or is it just because of https? | 13:16 |
| KotCzarny | i might compile my clipboard toy for maemo | 13:16 |
| KotCzarny | has gtk2 ui, so should work | 13:17 |
| Vajb | hmm i could use a tool that collects urls and opens them at laptop browser when i get to home wlan | 13:17 |
| bencoh | Vajb: it might be just because of https actually | 13:18 |
| KotCzarny | would have to rewrite it as a systray tool though | 13:18 |
| bencoh | actually that's one of the things I tried as well, and I was surprised to see it no longer worked | 13:18 |
| KotCzarny | oh well, bbl | 13:19 |
| bencoh | I guess adding support for https:// url in cutetube2 would be a good idea anyway (I don't think it should be hard since it follows the 302 redir anyway) | 13:19 |
| Vajb | is it opensource? | 13:19 |
| bencoh | cutetube2? of course :) | 13:20 |
| Vajb | ok. So you can edit it ;) | 13:21 |
| bencoh | yeah, well I had a quick look and didn't really see a restriction tbh | 13:22 |
| rhombus | Any new ideas on how to make my mounts visible in USB mass storage mode? (I must admit to not understanding how they are even made available to the host device,I've never programmed a USB stick before ;-) ) | 13:22 |
| bencoh | I suppose it's related to how relevant qt objects are created | 13:22 |
| bencoh | (unless there really is an explicit check on http:// I missed) | 13:23 |
| Vajb | rhombus: i guess you have already installed usbhost mode? I just pick the third option from the menu and it works | 13:24 |
| rhombus | Vajb: what is the usbhost mode? (please forgive my ignorance...) | 13:25 |
| Vajb | the program that you use to be usbhost for memory stick | 13:26 |
| Vajb | or i didn't understand your question :) | 13:26 |
| rhombus | Vajb: sorry, I guess it wasn't clear. I have an N900, and the first time I connect it to a laptop, I see two shares (NOKIA and Nokia N900); the second and all subsequent times, I see only NOKIA. | 13:27 |
| rhombus | The only way to make the 'Nokia N900' share accessible is to restart the phone | 13:27 |
| rhombus | I'm trying to understand what is going wrong so that I can fix it :) | 13:28 |
| sicelo | use lsof | 13:28 |
| Vajb | ok my bad then. I thought you were trying to use usb memory stick on n900 | 13:28 |
| Vajb | but why do you need usb connection? Why not to use ssh? | 13:29 |
| bencoh | "share", as in? samba? mounting mmc as a mass-storage? something else? | 13:29 |
| Vajb | i use putty for management and winscp if i need to move files around | 13:29 |
| bencoh | Vajb: it's admittedly slower than directly mounting MyDocs on PC though | 13:30 |
| rhombus | Vajb: I prefer a serial connection, ssh connections have been slow | 13:30 |
| Vajb | ssh? | 13:30 |
| bencoh | (but I'm with you on this, I'm used to sshing stuff) | 13:30 |
| rhombus | bencoh: yes, I guess mounting mmc as a mass-storage device | 13:31 |
| Vajb | well im not usually on a run when i sync my files ;) | 13:31 |
| Vajb | i even have custom script to connect to wlan while gprs stays intackt | 13:32 |
| rhombus | I don't really know what I am looking at; MyDocs doesn't correspond to what's in the 'Nokia N900' device | 13:32 |
| Vajb | i thought that one can't access to n900 filestructure via usb? | 13:33 |
| Vajb | just my docs and mmc | 13:33 |
| rhombus | Interesting: my laptop sees 'Nokia N900' as /dev/sdb (no partition), and 'NOKIA' as /dev/sdc1 (partition) | 13:34 |
| rhombus | sicelo: how do I use lsof to determine the state of the mmc? | 13:34 |
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| sicelo | i don't know what's with your system, but maybe start by running 'mount' to see what mounts exist. you should be able to see which one corresponds to what your NOKIA & Nokia N900 are. | 13:37 |
| sicelo | then you can check with lsof what is keeping those in use | 13:38 |
| sicelo | could it be that you used a window machine with malware to look at your MyDocs at some point in time and it made things hidden (hence you see it as empty)? | 13:38 |
| sicelo | s/window/Windows/ | 13:39 |
| infobot | sicelo meant: could it be that you used a Windows machine with malware to look at your MyDocs at some point in time and it made things hidden (hence you see it as empty)? | 13:39 |
| rhombus | sicelo: lsof - on the mounting system, or on the N900? | 13:44 |
| rhombus | sicelo: I only ever connect the N900 to my Linux laptop | 13:44 |
| sicelo | lsof on N900, to see what's got your drive in use | 13:45 |
| * sicelo won't be surprised it that's tracker | 13:45 | |
| rhombus | sicelo: how do I determine the paths for the drive? | 13:46 |
| sicelo | 'mount' | 13:46 |
| rhombus | sicelo: on the N900? | 13:46 |
| sicelo | yes | 13:47 |
| rhombus | I see a bunch of tmpfs mounts, then /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /home type ext3, then /home/opt on /opt type none (bind) | 13:49 |
| rhombus | I don't see how any of this has to do with the devices I see on the laptop | 13:49 |
| rhombus | okay, lsof | grep /dev/mmcblk brings up nothing | 13:50 |
| sicelo | either, as Halftux mentioed, your mounting scripts aren't working fine, or, as KotCzarny mentioned, something is keeping on of the mounts busy. makes sense? | 13:51 |
| rhombus | sicelo: yes, it makes sense, but I don't even know where to start looking to fix this, I've never made a USB device available (that's what I meant by "programming a USB stick" earlier). I know how to mount USB mass storage devices, but I don't know how to "host" a USB mass storage device | 13:52 |
| sicelo | you have a memory card or not? | 13:53 |
| rhombus | sicelo: yes, I am pretty sure there is a memory card | 13:53 |
| rhombus | sicelo: yes, in "Storage" in "Settings" it shows a memory card :) | 13:53 |
| sicelo | gawd. you mean you aren't sure if you inserted a memory card in the device? | 13:54 |
| rhombus | and it shows "USB cable connected" - which I would expect, as the device is mounted :) | 13:54 |
| rhombus | sicelo: I did not insert a card, so know, I cannot automatically be sure that there is a card in the device | 13:55 |
| rhombus | sicelo: what it has, it came with | 13:55 |
| rhombus | s/know/no/ | 13:55 |
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| sicelo | anyway as it was mentioend earlier, exportable mounts are only /home/user/MyDocs (not /home) and /media/mmc1. | 14:05 |
| rhombus | sicelo: ok, after looking at this https://wiki.maemo.org/Repartitioning_the_flash I understand a bit better | 14:05 |
| rhombus | sicelo: The reason MyDocs is "empty" is that it is unmounted (on the N900) as long as the machine is connected as a USB mass storage device | 14:06 |
| Halftux | rhombus: the scripts are in /usr/sbin | 14:06 |
| rhombus | sicelo: but lsof | grep mmc doesn't give me any output. I have no idea how this thing is being made available | 14:06 |
| Halftux | maybe have a look into osso-usb-mass-storage-disable.sh | 14:08 |
| rhombus | Halftux: I see it, having a look now | 14:09 |
| Halftux | osso-mmc-mount.sh /dev/mmcblk0p1 /home/user/MyDocs/ | 14:10 |
| rhombus | Halftux: I wonder if it has something to do with the way the device is named. "Nokia N900" has a space... | 14:10 |
| rhombus | Halftux: so osso-mmc-mount.sh /dev/mmcblk0p1 /home/user/MyDocs/ would make the device available as a USB mass storage device? | 14:11 |
| Halftux | is it the host name? | 14:11 |
| rhombus | Halftux: no, that's the volume name | 14:11 |
| Halftux | initctl emit G_FILE_STORAGE_REMOVE & rmmod g_file_storage & sleep 1 & osso-usb-mass-storage-disable.sh /dev/mmcblk0p1 & osso-mmc-mount.sh /dev/mmcblk0p1 /home/user/MyDocs/ | 14:14 |
| Halftux | this is the mass storage disable script | 14:14 |
| Halftux | & means new line | 14:15 |
| rhombus | Halftux: hmm | 14:15 |
| rhombus | Halftux: is what you posted just now the contents of a script? | 14:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | rhombus: (tl;dr backlog) you need to stop all apps that access (open filehandle) the volumes you want to export, before you connect device to USB. You MUST NOT start any apps that use the exported volumes while those volumes are exported, or you will create "stealth data" in the mountpoint dir that gets covered and is not visible anymore as soon as your volumes get remounted on device. | 16:09 |
| rhombus | DocScrutinizer05: There is no stealth data in the mountpoint dir, so I don't think that has been happening | 16:10 |
| rhombus | DocScrutinizer05: The problem is simply that the MyDocs volume is no longer exported after the first mount. When I reconnect the N900, I see only the NOKIA volume | 16:11 |
| rhombus | DocScrutinizer05: so you are saying it should be sufficient to close all applications before connecting the device to USB? | 16:12 |
| rhombus | I can test this right now | 16:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lsof is your friend | 16:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and fuser | 16:15 |
| rhombus | DocScrutinizer05: I'm still not clear how I can/should be using lsof here | 16:17 |
| rhombus | DocScrutinizer05: it generates many lines of output and I don't know what i should be filtering for | 16:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: freemangordon: how about a tad smarter script for mass storage mode, that for example does a lsof on the volumes to export, asks user if they want to stop all processes with open filehandles, then bindmounts /dev/null to the unused mountpoints as long as mass storage active? | 16:17 |
| rhombus | DocScrutinizer05: that sounds like a clever fix :) | 16:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | rhombus: along that line: | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# lsof|grep /home/user/MyDocs | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sh 14529 user cwd DIR 179,9 65536 1 /home/user/MyDocs | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | find the other mountpoint in `mount` | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | find the other mountpoints in `mount` | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HTH | 16:24 |
| rhombus | DocScrutinizer05: yes | 16:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | man fuser -> AUTHORS Werner Almesberger :-D | 16:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just wonder which GNU package this is, messybox fuser sucks, as usual | 16:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually I can't make messybox fuser do *anything* useful | 16:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | feels like messybox fuser is an alias for : | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or `true` | 16:42 |
| rhombus | DocScrutinizer05: ok, this time it worked, I had only Settings and XTerminal open, and the volume appears when I connect the USB | 16:42 |
| rhombus | Sorry for all the noise, I guess I just need to make sure I've closed everything when I want to connect | 16:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as long as your xterm isn't CDed to to one of the dirs, yes | 16:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | np, it's an annoyance at very least, I'd tend to call it a flaw | 16:43 |
| rhombus | DocScrutinizer05: I should say that your lsof command does not produce any output, irrespective of whether the volume is mounted externally or not | 16:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, it only produces output for the filehandles that actually touch the volume you're checking | 16:46 |
| rhombus | DocScrutinizer05: ah, so I would use it and be able to see what's blocking the volume from being made available | 16:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xterm, cd /home/user/MyDocs; lsof|grep /home/user/MyDocs | 16:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, exactly | 16:46 |
| rhombus | DocScrutinizer05: I thought maybe some daemon was supposed to be managing it :) | 16:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fuser -k would even be able to instantly kill all those processes | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if messybox [fuser] wasn'T such a pile of shit | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~pkg | 16:48 |
| infobot | hmm... pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ | 16:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | can't anybody tell me which gnu package is supposed to provide fuser? | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm psmisc? | 16:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | FSCK! | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# apt-cache search psmisc | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | busybox-symlinks-psmisc - BusyBox symlinks to provide 'psmisc' | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh, wrong catalogs | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | W*T*F?!!!! | 16:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/72372193 >> The following packages will be REMOVED: busybox-symlinks-psmisc ***cell-modem-ui*** *mp-fremantle-community-pr*<< | 16:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: to the rescue! | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: ^^^ | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/psmisc/ | 17:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | nothing Konqueror and Ark and sftp:// can't do ;-P http://paste.opensuse.org/1771800 | 17:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/psmisc/ needs gnu-repackaging (move from /bin/fuser and /usr/bin/* to /usr/bn/gnu/*, at least) | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or you do like me and unpack the http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/p/psmisc/psmisc_22.6-1_armel.deb and move the executables straight to where they belong, on maemo | 17:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | silly apt shit ;-P | 17:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | rhombus: http://paste.opensuse.org/442177 | 17:30 |
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| rhombus | DocScrutinizer05: thanks | 17:44 |
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| Halftux | DocScrutinizer05: so psmisc needs an update and maemo optimization? you want binary in /opt/maemo/usr/bin/gnu ? | 18:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yes# | 18:17 |
| sicelo | so it turned out to be an lso issue after al | 18:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the usual stuff | 18:18 |
| Halftux | ok I can update the package | 18:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools | 18:18 |
| infobot | somebody said jrtools was http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 18:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ### breaks cssu-t5.1 MP, so it's commented out. Use on own peril: | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ### allegedly fixed in mp-fremantle-community-pr 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo11 | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | apt-get install procps | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Halftux: refer procps pkg | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and prolly findutils-gnu | 18:21 |
| Halftux | ok I will have a look | 18:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I didn't check the actual GNU relation | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but obviously something is messed up in dependencies | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe psmisc needs to become psmisc-gnu? no idea | 18:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or sth is fecked in busybox-symlinks-psmisc | 18:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and cell-modem-ui and mp-fremantle-community-pr ? | 18:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I *guess* the latter to depend on busybox-symlinks-psmisc rather than psmisc itself or the executables it provides | 18:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | two* | 18:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | maemo, a dependency hell | 18:29 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if maemo-leste will fix this ancient annoying issue | 18:30 | |
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| sicelo | i'd say already 'fixed' .. by not having it in te first place | 18:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Halftux: actually not /opt/maemo/usr/bin/gnu but simply /usr/bin/gnu | 18:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (though it's the same in the end) | 18:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err is it? | 18:32 |
| Halftux | ok to /usr/bin/gnu with maemo auto optify then? | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think optification not due here, too small | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | at least the binaries, for docs the situation may differ | 18:35 |
| Halftux | i can look if configure has doc path | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# ls -l `which fuser` | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20460 2009-04-26 23:22 /usr/bin/gnu/fuser | 18:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | 20k, optification not warranted (in my book) | 18:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I ignored docs, since I got man-n900 anyway | 18:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and unless you got my docpurge patch, docs get purged on device anyway | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | docpurge patch :-P http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#proper_bash_and_tools | 18:42 |
| Halftux | a docpurge patch from doc :-) I dont have it | 18:42 |
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| Halftux | so busybox symlinks goes to /bin/fuser | 18:52 |
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