IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2018-03-23

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MaxdamantusHmm .. does anyone know (or is anyone able to check) if the call UI avoids turning off the screen based on the proximity sensor if the keyboard is out?10:04
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sicelobased on proximity (actually that's the main reason they have it installed, according to the manual, at least)10:17
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siceloah, i misunderstood the question10:21
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siceloif keyboard is out, proximity is ignored. covering it does not blank the screen10:24
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MaxdamantusMk, so that explains why I've had issues with calls on my current device.10:48
MaxdamantusSince the slide detector doesn't work, so the screen stays on during calls.10:48
Maxdamantusguess I'll just remember to turn it off manually.10:49
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DocScrutinizer05~moo13:26
infobotmooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo.13:26
DocScrutinizer05ARGGHH my T900 deadlocked, prolly log filled up / completely13:28
DocScrutinizer05oh no, it wasn't powered up, LOL13:29
DocScrutinizer05anyway sicelo, I *think* (too lazy to get my ass to IroN900 to check) that proximity sensor blanks screen only when the dialer has focus13:31
DocScrutinizer05and even then prolly only during call13:32
DocScrutinizer05and then I'm unclear if it would happen when speakerphone mode enabled13:32
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HalftuxDocScrutinizer05: regarding the psmisc package I think we need to go with a psmisc-gnu package. I would take the source code from sourceforge psmisc-22.21.tar.gz. How would be the correct maemo version numbering. psmisc-22.21maemo1 or psmisc-22.21-1maemo5.14:06
DocScrutinizer05NFC, sorry. This always been a mystery to me14:07
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: ^^^14:07
DocScrutinizer05@devels: ^^^14:07
Halftuxyeah for me too, have seen so many variants now :D14:08
DocScrutinizer05and 10% of those variants are utterly broken and mess up the repo :-P14:08
DocScrutinizer05mompls14:09
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DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/25826765  FWIW14:12
DocScrutinizer05and http://paste.opensuse.org/20449172 psutils14:14
DocScrutinizer05SDK repo sucks14:15
DocScrutinizer05it has plain mainline tools just recompiled for target ISa14:16
DocScrutinizer05well, all that doesn't answer the question which was the right naming scheme/rev#14:16
DocScrutinizer05I *think* -maemo1  but honestly not sure14:18
DocScrutinizer05since it's a new package (new name), any "5" doesn't make sense in my book14:19
DocScrutinizer05Halftux: anyway please make *ansolutely sure* about correct versioning *before* you upload to builder/repo14:20
DocScrutinizer05that shit think locks up hard when there's anything odd in version string14:21
DocScrutinizer05thing*14:21
Halftuxyeah thats why I am asking14:22
DocScrutinizer05zombie packages idling in a tmp dir forever and no new package of faintly same name ever gets processed until some admin cleans out the zombie package14:22
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: ^^^ PING14:23
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DocScrutinizer05for shits n giggles, try apt-get search gnu14:25
HalftuxI can also take the debian jessie source code psmisc_22.21-2 and naming it psmisc-22.21-2maemo1 how about that14:25
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# apt-cache search gnu|wc -l14:26
DocScrutinizer0528914:26
DocScrutinizer05didn't you plan to make that psmisc-gnu?14:26
Halftuxoh yes sorry then psmisc-gnu_22.21-2maemo114:28
DocScrutinizer05so I *guess*  psmisc-gnu-22.21-2maemo1 or psmisc-gnu-22.21-2-maemo1  or psmisc-gnu-22.21-2-1maemo114:28
DocScrutinizer05and iirc *NOT* psmisc-gnu-22.21-2+maemo114:29
HalftuxI would do it now like Tom Tanner, he was uploading these modified gnu packages14:29
DocScrutinizer05please wait for somebody with a clue chiming in14:30
DocScrutinizer05a package uploaded to builder is almost impossible to roll back14:30
DocScrutinizer05this is an iltra nasty pitfall14:31
DocScrutinizer05ultra, even14:31
HalftuxI will wait no problem14:32
DocScrutinizer05bencoh: chem|st: Wizzup: merlin1991: freemangordon: please help us out14:32
DocScrutinizer05*cough*14:32
DocScrutinizer05[2018-03-23 Fri 13:32:35] [Notice] -Sigyn- Your actions in #maemo tripped automated anti-spam measures (nicks/hilight spam), but were ignored based on your time in channel; stop now, or automated action will still be taken. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact a member of staff14:32
DocScrutinizer05LOL14:33
Halftuxnice one :D14:33
DocScrutinizer05indeed, she turned sooo polite lately ;-P14:33
DocScrutinizer05~version14:35
infobotversion is probably for the kernel "uname -r", for your distro "cat /etc/*-release" or "lsb_release -d". For other applications, try running it with a --version command.14:35
DocScrutinizer05bllblblblblll!14:35
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues *maemo*builder*14:36
infobotFactoid search of '*maemo*builder*' by value (1): #maemo autobuilder.14:36
DocScrutinizer05~autobuilder14:36
infobotwell, autobuilder is https://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras-devel#Autobuilder_special_considerations14:36
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues *maemo*version*14:37
infobotFactoid search of '*maemo*version*' by value (1): #maemo mhd.14:37
Halftux"So if in Debian the package name was something like "Myapp-0.4-2" in maemo this package will be called "Myapp-0.4-2maemo0". The number after the "maemo" string is a progressive number. "14:39
Halftuxwould be interesting for packages, which comes not from debian or comes from svn ...14:40
Halftuxquote comes from https://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging Maemo revision string14:42
DocScrutinizer05sounds reasonable14:45
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues *maemo*revision*14:46
infobotFactoid search of '*maemo*revision*' by value returned no results.14:46
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues *revision*14:46
infobotFactoid search of '*revision*' by value (18 of 39): bz20cvs ;; cmd: com (.*?) ;; gif ;; jargon backward combatability ;; jargon bug-compatible ;; jargon readme file2 ;; jargon tmrc ;; jargon troglodyte ;; kde ;; kde4 ;; kernelmicrowave ;; mac error -303 ;; mac error -333 ;; patches ;; rcs ;; rfc 1350 ;; rfc 1602 ;; rfc 2026.14:46
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues *revision*maemo*14:46
infobotFactoid search of '*revision*maemo*' by value returned no results.14:46
DocScrutinizer05~#maemo revision is <reply>find info about maemo package version, revision at https://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging#Maemo_revision_string14:47
infobotokay, DocScrutinizer0514:47
DocScrutinizer05~#maemo version is <reply>see #maemo revision14:48
infobotokay, DocScrutinizer0514:48
DocScrutinizer05~version14:48
infobotfind info about maemo package version, revision at https://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging#Maemo_revision_string14:48
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duncan^Hi, I'm looking for some assistance...15:15
duncan^How can I launch the X terminal from the home display?15:16
duncan^I select the tiles in the top left corner, and I only see a few items,which do not encompass the full suite pre-installed on a Maemo device.15:16
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sicelo1) you make a shortcut to it. Or, (2) you use Shift+Ctrl+X15:37
sicelounless i misunderstood you15:38
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duncan^That's the thing, I've made a shortcut, and it will not launch :/15:57
duncan^I'll try CTRL+SHIFT+X15:57
duncan^No, that doesn't work either :(15:58
duncan^I suspect I might need to do a factory reset, I've got an intermittent error which says that the contacts app stopped due to an "internal error".15:59
Halftuxduncan^: how about ssh to your N90016:03
duncan^ How can I do that?16:06
duncan^All I want to do is install U-Boot in order to get rid of Maemo :(16:06
Halftuxflash the device and start from scratch16:08
Vajbjust realized that we have r-base on n900 as well. Is it usable?16:15
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sicelogetting rid of Maemo in favor of?16:17
Vajblife :D16:20
sicelo:-D16:22
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: pong17:06
DocScrutinizer05hi :)17:06
freemangordonhi17:06
DocScrutinizer05question was about version/revision string of packages17:07
freemangordonsorry, backscroll is too long to read, what question?17:07
freemangordonor the problem is solved?17:08
DocScrutinizer05[2018-03-23 Fri 13:06:30] <Halftux> DocScrutinizer05: regarding the psmisc package I think we need to go with a psmisc-gnu package. I would take the source code from sourceforge psmisc-22.21.tar.gz. How would be the correct maemo version numbering. psmisc-22.21maemo1 or psmisc-22.21-1maemo5.17:08
DocScrutinizer05~version17:08
infobotfind info about maemo package version, revision at https://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging#Maemo_revision_string17:08
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freemangordonI am not sure this is entirely correct though17:09
DocScrutinizer05then please fix it :-)17:09
DocScrutinizer05or tell me how to fix it17:09
freemangordonwhat I see in reality is that versioning is more like $DEB_VERSION+$MAEMO_REVISIONmaemo$MAEMO_ISSUE17:11
freemangordoni.e. package-1.2-3+0maemo5 for the first maemo version, package-1.2-3+1maemo5 for the second and so on17:11
DocScrutinizer05uhuh, screwed17:12
freemangordon*but* - it seems not all the packages follow that17:12
freemangordonso I am not really sure what to tell :)17:12
freemangordon*say17:12
DocScrutinizer05there are however *some* version strings that fsck up the autobuilder/repo, no?17:13
DocScrutinizer05or even HAM17:13
freemangordonyes, but it is a matter of special characters in there17:13
freemangordoniirc17:13
DocScrutinizer05:nod:   +17:13
DocScrutinizer05iirc17:13
freemangordonhowever, I think psmisc-22.21-1maemo5 should be fine17:14
DocScrutinizer05:-)17:14
freemangordonoh, wait17:14
DocScrutinizer05Halftux: ^^^17:14
freemangordonpsmisc-22.21+1maemo517:14
DocScrutinizer05arrrgh17:15
freemangordon+ (plus), not -(dash)17:15
freemangordon- has a special meaning and is reserved for debian maintainers :)17:15
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: any thoughts about i.MX ?17:16
freemangordonhmm? what is this? :)17:16
DocScrutinizer05i.MX8 SoC17:16
freemangordonSoC?17:16
freemangordonin what regard?17:16
DocScrutinizer05software, whatever17:17
freemangordonno idea17:17
DocScrutinizer05hardware, availability, quality17:17
DocScrutinizer05any comments appreciated17:17
freemangordonno, sorry17:17
DocScrutinizer05np, ta17:17
freemangordonI have NFC17:17
DocScrutinizer05please sort that version thing17:18
DocScrutinizer05we need an authoritative instruction what must get used17:18
DocScrutinizer05this is a topic where I got NFC17:19
DocScrutinizer05;-)17:19
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: let me know if http s://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Packaging&action=edit&section=24 doesn't work for you17:25
freemangordonit works17:27
freemangordonbut I am not really sure how to change it17:27
freemangordonI am not the one that designed maemo :)17:27
DocScrutinizer05well, but one of those with the most clue about it, particularly autobuilder :-)17:29
DocScrutinizer05don't be shy :-)17:30
DocScrutinizer05or let's consider whom to ask who got more clue than me and even you17:30
DocScrutinizer05pali?17:31
DocScrutinizer05~seen pali17:31
infobotpali <~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 142d 18h ago, saying: 'ok'.17:31
DocScrutinizer05:-O17:31
freemangordonit is not about being shy, I am just not sure17:38
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duncan^Could someone walk me through using 0xFFFF tool to reset my N900?19:20
duncan^It's a drop-in replacement for the manufacturer tool, right?19:20
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duncan^I've got the Maemo update image RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.203.1_PR_COMBINED_203_ARM.bin. Is this is fiasco format? Or do I need to do something else in order to reflash rootfs?19:49
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sixwheeledbeast~lf20:04
infobotsomebody said #maemo lazyflashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach20:04
sixwheeledbeastshould have everything you need20:04
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duncan^what a cool script ;)20:17
duncan^Thanks :)20:18
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duncan^Hmm.20:22
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duncan^The script says to remove the battery, and then the script continues. How does that work, given that it just continued anyway?20:25
Halftuxdont know the script but before you start flashing your battery should be fully charged and the sim card should be removed20:28
duncan^Yes that's fine20:28
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