IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2017-12-07

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sixwheeledbeastthe wiki format is separated like that on all CSSU Flavours. This is so you can locate a version and build date from the contents. I have split out the changelog to a separate page consistent with the others and if I have time in the future will make pretty boxes for each version.00:08
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KotCzarnybtw. you should have more detailed description in the link00:10
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KotCzarnythings like 'link', 'image', 'github', 'code' are not descriptive enough00:11
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KotCzarnythat's how net was invented in the first place00:11
KotCzarny"The number after it indicates the Community SSU release version. This string is not edited so the Ovi store doesn't break"00:16
KotCzarnydoes it mean it could be made into sane version name now?00:16
KotCzarnyafair ovi is no more00:16
sixwheeledbeastI feel that if you have read the content of the page then you know what the link is but I have put the full URL in for full clarity.00:19
sixwheeledbeastI don't think it should be changes if it breaks things or not.00:19
KotCzarnyi was citing description of cssu version numbering00:19
sixwheeledbeastyes me too with the latter comment00:20
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sixwheeledbeastthat numbering is the last nokia release, I don't see why it should be changed. A lot of thought was put in to make sure CSSU versioning wouldn't break things this includes thumb.00:23
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OksanaTired. Trying to make a list of possible things that can go wrong with N900, hardware-wise. 1) Broken stylus (replace); 2) Broken touchscreen and-or LCD; 3) scratched/peeling_off touchscreen (use screen protector from start); 4) broken/scratched plastic; 5) lost of dust/sand inside; 6) water damage08:23
Oksana(green rust); 7) black flat antennae scratched to the level copper is visible; 8) doors for SIM/microSD card broken off; 9) battery cover broken (camera lens cover, stand, magnet...)08:23
OksanaBroken things are mostly preventable by not letting device fall, ever. But lots of dust/sand and water damage...08:23
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OksanaI cannot reconcile how "lack of moving parts is better for long-term durability" with "half-press to focus camera button"08:30
OksanaUnless half-press is replaced by capacitive touch?08:30
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KotCzarnyoksana: you can add the things i have seen: bad lcd flat cable09:10
KotCzarnyand modem desoldering itself (some suggest it can happen from hw kb usage)09:11
KotCzarnyand of course standard usb port woes (from bending the charger cable during connect/disconnect)09:12
KotCzarnythere is also generic 'broken screws' by either flat heads or broken threads09:15
KotCzarnyand my wakeup switch is worn out from use to flatness, helps to have nails in that case09:16
KotCzarnyand people running n900 overclocked risk frying the cpu over time09:16
Vajbi can add one more thing. Tracks on which screen slides can be worn too. If u think of tracks as north to south line. Track ends can be worn so that screen sits at more south when closed.09:39
KotCzarnyah, yeah, slider mechanism09:41
Vajbyes09:41
KotCzarnyoh, and there is also possibility to blow up the speakers (but only if one uses alsa directly without evilaudio)09:42
Vajbalso i have worn out headphone connector09:43
Vajbmostly it clips signal on left speaker when connector moves. Also occasionally device may think that there r no headphones connected09:45
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teotwaki"are"12:13
MaxdamantusVajb: I have similar issues, but suspect it's basically that the headphone connector is abve to move too much.12:15
MaxdamantusSo it can easily lose contact with the board or make the wrong sort of contact.12:15
Maxdamantus(it's not soldered onto the board; the pins are just positioned so they press against pads on the board)12:16
MaxdamantusI might sometime try just jamming a small amount of paper into the slot in the case for it.12:17
Prissy_Tonkineseso it's the same story as usb port?12:24
Prissy_Tonkinesethe frailness12:24
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MaxdamantusNo, because the USB port is attached to the motherboard. The audio jack just sits in the case and can be removed without modifying anything.12:51
DocScrutinizer05funny that I only witnessed broken flat flex cable, and that - in all honesty - was agter dis- and re-assembling device for the first time, without advice fromn service manual, though despite I'm an engineer, I might have fekked up13:06
DocScrutinizer05and I have like 4 N900 constantly in use, and servicing a few more13:07
DocScrutinizer05yes, I *heard* plausible reports of all of the above. Not significantly more than for any other device though, except for a soldering problem (prolly in early N900 batch built) with USB, and the notorious "No SIM" error from pressing so hard on kbd that PCB bends and modem BGA solder joints snap open13:10
DocScrutinizer05btw U dropped N900 hard (from ~140cm to stone pavement) a few times, and one time in a futile effort to catch the fall with my foot, *stepped on it* - worst damage was a tiny dent of one metal display frame corner13:11
DocScrutinizer05s/ U / I /13:11
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: btw I dropped N900 hard (from ~140cm to stone pavement) a few times, and one time in a futile effort to catch the fall with my foot, *stepped on it* - worst damage was a tiny dent of one metal display frame corner13:11
inzHow was the pavement?13:12
Prissy_TonkineseI like tests13:12
Prissy_Tonkineses/tests/cats13:12
Prissy_Tonkineseah, I see now13:12
DocScrutinizer05of course the device is not rated "water proof", so what a problem report is "green stain on PCB form water in device" ???13:13
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