IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2017-12-06

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enychrrm02:25
enycis this  CSSU 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo12    going to have a +thumb0  variant produced sometime soon?02:26
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Vajbi did apt-get install curl and it pulled libcurl3. After that cssu update went through in ham. All seems to be fine now.10:15
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enycVajb: kk but what about thumb variant?11:46
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Vajbenyc: no idea. I don't use thumb. I had problem installing newest cssu update.12:05
enycokies12:07
enycare there other maemo dev channles or so i might want to know about?12:07
enycjoin #fptf12:07
enycthere was some freematle porting channel something i forget12:07
KotCzarnyin topic there is #maemo-ssu12:08
sixwheeledbeastDone another spam zap on WMO and protected QBW page to unregistered, it's the 3-4 time in a row it's been hit so seems sensible.12:09
Vajb~fptf12:10
infobotfptf is probably the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9130812:10
KotCzarnysome other channel i frequent has one useful feature that after registeration user is in group 'none' and cannot do any edits until he/she is placed by an admin in 'people' group12:11
KotCzarnymaybe it might be implemented easily in wmo?12:11
sixwheeledbeastI have been told our medaiwiki version is very old and doesn't have a lot of the anti-spam features available in new version. there is also integration with midgard that made it more difficult to upgrade12:13
KotCzarnystill, might be worth checking if it has user groups with rights management12:16
sixwheeledbeastthis is all information I recall from during/slightly after migration when I started "looking after" the wiki.12:20
sixwheeledbeastIssue is with unregistered users but as it's a wiki I do not wish to block all unregistered users if I can help it.12:21
sixwheeledbeastAlso anything to do with user groups and users would have to be done by sysop not admin12:24
sixwheeledbeastUnregistered users cannot create pages only edit and read existing.12:25
Vajbit seems that apt has some updates still. I guess they are not ready and hence not included in newest cssu-testing?13:00
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DocScrutinizer05if you block unregistered users, spam bot will register13:17
DocScrutinizer05pointless13:17
KotCzarnynot true, it requires additional work for them, which means they often go for low profile targets with autoreg13:18
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WikiwideTired. With the bike rentals popping up here - obike, reddygo, mobike, ofo - it would be neat to have one bike rental app to fit them all, with plugins if required. So far, their official apps only support Android and iOS. I wonder if Apkenv is going to be compiled for Maemo 5 soon...13:23
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WikiwideAlso, in the photo http://imgbin.ca/image.uploads/06-12-2017/original-152c5395e0cf4016861191e87bc20382.jpg The black wire detached its soldered end from green PCB, delayered it, wavers up and down, making the circuit extremely unreliable, as in, functioning only with active and patient human intervention. How to fix it? I don't think this kind of damage is fixable by more soldering. Well, maybe...13:31
WikiwideJust some solar-powered Christmas lights. Typical "made in China, use once and then see it falling apart and throw it away" circuitry.13:32
KotCzarnywell, since it looks like ground, you can probably solder it to the other pin, unless there is something on the other side13:33
KotCzarnyi thinke there is conducting glue too available13:34
WikiwideConducting glue... Don't think we have it at home. Makerspace is closed, for semester break in University.13:35
WikiwideIt's night here, will probably try more things in the morning when my mind is more alive. I just quite distrust soldering in my hands as means to restore something to "like new" state. Wish the PCBs were either more like LEGO, or indestructible.13:37
KotCzarnyi suck at soldering too13:38
KotCzarnyusually i use screw-in connectors and adapters, and generally order things pre-soldered13:39
WikiwideProbably matter of tools. If it was like a 3D printer, done by machine with human thinking of coordinates and overseeing the process, then it would be less affected by shaking hands.13:40
WikiwideGood night. May your hardware never break, and your software work unbugged.13:42
KotCzarny:)13:42
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CatButts~ssh13:50
infobothmm... ssh is http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:OpenSSH, or http://www.openssh.org13:50
CatButtseh13:50
CatButtshttps://wiki.maemo.org/SSH#Server13:51
CatButtsI'm stuck at this point13:51
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KotCzarnydefine 'stuck'13:52
KotCzarnybecause ssh package in repos enable ssh server too13:52
CatButtsso it's on by default?13:53
CatButtsand I don't need to enable it myself?13:53
KotCzarnyif you install it, yeah13:53
CatButtsah, good13:53
KotCzarnyunless you already broke the config13:53
KotCzarny:)13:53
CatButtspurrhaps not13:53
CatButtsI generated keys13:54
KotCzarnytry apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server13:54
KotCzarnymaybe it will work out of the box13:54
CatButts22 is default port, yes?13:55
KotCzarnyyes13:55
CatButtsI will try and connect13:55
KotCzarnycheck with: netstat -antuw|grep 22 if anything is listening on device13:56
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CatButtstcp    0    0.0.0.0:22    0.0.0.0:*    LISTEN14:06
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CatButtslooks good14:08
CatButtssay, there was an utility in the repos14:08
CatButtsI can't find it no more14:08
CatButtsit would allow you to view your IP14:09
CatButtsas well as order activation of an USB network14:09
KotCzarnylinks --dump google.com/?q=whatismyip14:09
KotCzarnyoh wait, you talk about local ip14:09
CatButtsyes14:09
KotCzarnyifconfig/ip14:09
KotCzarnyyou can wrap it in any pygtk script and be done14:10
KotCzarnycould be one-liner even14:10
CatButtsI am currently trying to set up an adhoc wireless connection from laptop to phone14:17
KotCzarnyif you only want to do things temporarily use usbnet14:18
CatButts~usbnet14:18
infobotusbnet is probably at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking or and usbnet in 2.4.18 (desktop) is broken, you want to use > 2.4.19-pre2 or see windows usbnet for windows support or a patched version is at http://handhelds.org/~paxanima/usbnet/, or at http://zorian.kicks-ass.org/files/usbnet-2.4.21-rc7.tar.gz, or http://handhelds.org/~mallum/usbnet-2.4.20.patch, or dhcp over usbnet, ...14:18
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CatButtsinterdasting14:18
Vajbis this the way to share device internet for laptop?14:19
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CatButtsI'm probably going to have to sort my apt-get headache first14:20
CatButtsfor which, I ssh into phone14:20
* CatButts stack traces his troubles14:24
KotCzarnyvajb: usbnet is normal ipv4 interface, but you will need some firewall rules to make it work in your case i think14:24
KotCzarnyCatButts: for ssh over wifi its best to lower power savings from max to moderate14:25
KotCzarnyotherwise it will be very laggy14:25
CatButtsmake a python script for somethign but want py2.7 first-> broken partial package preventing me from installing py and other things -> try to ssh into device -> try to adhoc-wifi from PC -> you are here14:26
KotCzarnyi think adhoc wifi should work for n900, there is even hotspot app for that14:27
KotCzarnyobviously only good for testing/unsafe things14:27
CatButtsdoes it allow WPA?14:27
KotCzarnynot that i know of14:28
KotCzarny*none14:29
CatButtsI lowered PC's adhoc to WEP instead of WPA2-Personal and it seemed to work14:32
CatButtsdesktop widget for IP shows nothing14:32
CatButtsweird14:32
KotCzarnyunconfigured interface?14:32
Vajbso if i am restricted to only internet provided by mobile, what would i do?14:34
Vajbwell can always insert my sim to laptop tho14:34
CatButtsyou want to share phone net to PC?14:34
CatButtslook into 'thetering' then14:34
Vajbalright, thx14:36
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DocScrutinizer05~literal usbnet14:48
infobot"usbnet" is "at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking or and usbnet in 2.4.18 (desktop) is broken, you want to use > 2.4.19-pre2 or see windows usbnet for windows support or a patched version is at http://handhelds.org/~paxanima/usbnet/, or at http://zorian.kicks-ass.org/files/usbnet-2.4.21-rc7.tar.gz, or http://handhelds.org/~mallum/usbnet-2.4.20.patch, or dhcp over usbnet, ...14:48
DocScrutinizer05[2017-12-05 Tue 19:00:08] <CatButts> dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-removal script: No such file or directory [2017-12-05 Tue 19:00:52] <CatButts> dpkg: error processing php5-common (--purge): [2017-12-05 Tue 19:01:20] <CatButts>   subproccess post-removal script returned error exit status 214:50
DocScrutinizer05check for the accordingly named script in apt/dpkg "cache", fix that script to not return error14:50
DocScrutinizer05/var/lib/dpkg/info/*php*.postrm14:53
CatButtsI have arrived to conclusion that n900 cannot connect to adhoc wifis with WPA2-Personal15:11
CatButtsonly WEP15:11
KotCzarnyyou know that adhoc doesnt come with wpa in any way?15:11
* CatButts scratches head15:12
CatButtsWPA2 appears to be an option when I set it up on PC15:14
KotCzarnyyes, but there is no wpa/wpa2 with adhoc mode15:15
KotCzarnysimply because it's not compatible15:15
KotCzarnythere must be master(ap)15:15
KotCzarnyso most likely your pc will set itself as ap15:16
CatButtsI see meow15:16
CatButtsalso, windows 715:16
KotCzarnyunless things have changed15:16
KotCzarnyand there is some extension hack15:17
CatButtsso it's somethingsomethingnonstandard15:22
KotCzarnycant get info how secure is wpa over adhoc15:28
KotCzarnyi think it's just wep with a bit stronger hash, but still, encrypted with weak algo and static key, so not secure15:35
CatButtserrrr16:04
CatButts>login as:_16:05
CatButtswhat is the N900's default username16:05
KotCzarnywhat are you using/ ssh?16:05
sixwheeledbeastuser16:05
CatButtsyes16:05
KotCzarnyisnt logging as user pointless?16:06
KotCzarny1/ it doesnt have a password16:06
KotCzarny2/ probably disabled because of 116:06
KotCzarny3/ setting password will break maemo i think16:06
KotCzarnyso just use root16:06
KotCzarnyyou are going to do root work anyway16:06
KotCzarnyit asked you for root password when installing ssh server afair16:07
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CatButtsyeah, couldn't log into user16:09
CatButtsroot it is16:09
CatButtsphp5-common.postrm, found it16:12
CatButtsugh, vi16:12
CatButtscan't launch leafpad, can I :P ?16:12
KotCzarnybit hard16:15
KotCzarnyinstall nano pico or mc16:16
KotCzarny(mc has mcedit)16:16
CatButtsyeah, nano I can get along with16:16
CatButts16:18
CatButtssorry about that, the cat stepped on the keyboard16:19
sixwheeledbeastnothing wrong with vi... Why would a user password be an issue in Maemo?16:19
KotCzarnyswb: my memory cloudly remember it was an issue16:19
KotCzarny*remembers16:20
sixwheeledbeasthmm16:20
CatButtserrrrr16:23
CatButtsundo in nano is recent adition, yes?16:27
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CatButtshttps://pastebin.com/TCzrwRVG looks fairly sane to me16:39
CatButtsperhaps move the exit 0 a bit closer :P16:39
CatButtsto start16:39
CatButtssame error16:41
KotCzarnyremove set -e16:41
CatButtsI placed exit 0 before set -e16:42
CatButtswill try16:42
CatButts#set -e16:43
CatButtssame error16:43
CatButtshash is comment character in bash, yes?16:44
KotCzarnyyes16:46
* CatButts manually executes the rm16:48
CatButtsbut that changes nothing16:49
CatButtsI don't understand apt-get16:51
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CatButtsit doesn't allow me to carry an operation on some package because fault in unrelated package16:52
CatButtsif I try to purge php5-common, it tells me cvm is missing unzip dependency16:53
CatButtsif I try to install unzip, it tells me it can't because php5-common's left bollock is itchy16:53
pkill9lol16:53
sixwheeledbeastthis is n900 yes?16:55
CatButtsyes16:55
CatButtsI have no idea how php5 got in there in the first place!16:55
sixwheeledbeastapt can cause a dependency mess in Maemo, that's why it's not recommended16:55
KotCzarnyinstall unzip via dpkg -i ?16:56
CatButts> apt-get headache16:56
CatButtsE: Invalid operation aspirin16:56
KotCzarnyyou can also try force options to uninstall php516:56
CatButtsI did16:57
CatButtsthe -f switch16:57
CatButtsdoesn't dpkg require a deb file?16:58
KotCzarnyum, -f is not force switch16:58
CatButtsderp16:58
KotCzarny-f is fix-broken16:58
KotCzarny      --force-yes16:58
KotCzarny           Force yes; this is a dangerous option that will cause apt to continue without prompting if it is doing something potentially harmful. It should16:58
KotCzarny           not be used except in very special situations. Using force-yes can potentially destroy your system! Configuration Item: APT::Get::force-yes.16:58
KotCzarnybut you can also use dpkg directly to remove php516:59
CatButtsphp5-common17:00
CatButts> dpkg --force-all -r php5-common17:03
CatButtssame17:03
KotCzarnywhat is the error?17:04
CatButtshttps://pastebin.com/Am7WbkhW17:05
DocScrutinizer05CatButts: make "rm -rf /var/lib/php5"  ->  "rm -rf /var/lib/php5||:"17:05
* CatButts tries17:05
CatButtsI slapped an 'exit 0' before that line, though17:06
DocScrutinizer05don't move "exit 0" !!! you don't want the script to exit before it has done its thing, no?17:06
CatButtsI want it to just say 'yes sir, donedid' and move on17:06
CatButtsif need be, I will manually remove the file/folder17:07
KotCzarnyhmm, but it says there is no postrm script for php5-common17:07
KotCzarnyif i see it correctly17:07
KotCzarnywhat is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/php5-common.postrm ?17:07
DocScrutinizer05CatButts: (( [2017-12-06 Wed 15:48:53] * CatButts manually executes the rm  [2017-12-06 Wed 15:49:31] <CatButts> but that changes nothing  )) of course not. The problem isn't that rm can't remove an existing dir, the problem is rm vlowing chunks since there's already no dir to remove17:07
KotCzarnydpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-removal script: No such file or directory17:08
DocScrutinizer05maually removing the dir doesn't help shit. manually CREATE it rather! ;-)17:08
KotCzarnyso either it wasnt installed correctly, or you have removed it17:08
KotCzarnyor package is just broken17:08
CatButtswhat if I just remove the rm17:08
CatButtsI commented it out and executed17:09
CatButtsI am thinking that no matter what I do to this script, same thing will happen17:09
CatButtsso maybe the break is somewhere else in chain17:09
KotCzarnyCatButts: can you check if there is postrm script?17:09
DocScrutinizer05or you changed permissions of the file17:10
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KotCzarnynah, it would say not-executable in error17:10
CatButtsNokia-N900:/var/lib/dpkg/info# nano php5-common.postrm17:10
KotCzarnyit clearly says 'no file'17:10
DocScrutinizer05shebang looks weird >>#! /bin/bash<< but that's not a problem yet17:10
CatButtsshe move, she move17:10
CatButtsooooh baby, she move17:11
DocScrutinizer05aiui rm says "no such file"17:11
KotCzarnydpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-removal script: No such file or directory17:11
KotCzarnyCatButts: ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/php5-common.postrm ?17:11
DocScrutinizer05subproccess post-removal script returned error exit status 217:11
DocScrutinizer05and what's https://pastebin.com/TCzrwRVG then?17:12
CatButts-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root            90 Dec  6 17:11 /var/lib/dpkg/info/php5-common.postrm17:12
KotCzarnyalso, that line would clearly execute with --purge17:12
DocScrutinizer05looks good17:12
KotCzarnycan you try removing first line?17:13
KotCzarnythat shebang one17:13
DocScrutinizer05HUH????17:13
KotCzarnyor just add space after #17:13
DocScrutinizer05why?17:13
DocScrutinizer05what??17:13
KotCzarnyjust to make sure it's not about it trying to run /bin/bash17:13
CatButtshmmmmmm17:13
DocScrutinizer05make that #!/bin/sh17:13
DocScrutinizer05!!!!!17:13
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KotCzarnyanyway, package is shit17:14
DocScrutinizer05bin/bash is bullshit17:14
KotCzarnyand should be fixed17:14
DocScrutinizer05obviously.17:14
KotCzarnywhere did you get it?17:14
DocScrutinizer05fails when bash not installed17:14
CatButtslololololol17:15
CatButts#!/bin/sh17:15
KotCzarnywell, it shouldnt, because there is a space after #!, but somehow it tries to run bin bash17:15
DocScrutinizer05now when garbled shebang, weiiiiird things happen, particularly gibberish error messages like "foo.postrm - no such file" while evidently it's there17:15
CatButtsI should make a symbolic link17:15
KotCzarnyno, you shouldnt17:16
KotCzarnythey are incompatible17:16
KotCzarnybut you can install bash from repo17:16
DocScrutinizer05no, fix shebang17:16
DocScrutinizer05or that17:16
DocScrutinizer05though apt-get won't do shit until this is fixed17:16
CatButtsapt-get bash head17:17
KotCzarnyi think the oackage name is gnu-bash or something17:17
DocScrutinizer05no17:17
DocScrutinizer05also doesn't matter17:17
KotCzarnyright. there is bash17:17
KotCzarnywonder if it install bash3 or 417:17
KotCzarnybecause there are both17:17
DocScrutinizer05fix the damn postrm shebang17:17
DocScrutinizer054 is OK17:18
DocScrutinizer05though has no "help" anymore17:18
DocScrutinizer05:-/17:18
CatButtsI fixed it17:18
KotCzarnyno, we did :P17:18
CatButtsphphew removed17:18
CatButtsyou fixed it17:18
CatButtsI typed17:19
CatButtsthere17:19
KotCzarnynow answer where did you get that package17:19
CatButtsit's a mystery17:19
* DocScrutinizer05 fetches the RM-hammer17:19
KotCzarnybecause it's clearly just compiled without any checking17:19
DocScrutinizer05~pkg17:20
infobothmm... pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/17:20
CatButts[16:55] <CatButts> I have no idea how php5 got in there in the first place!17:20
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DocScrutinizer05sorry still no better URL17:21
DocScrutinizer05http://tinyurl.com/y8oh2rru17:21
KotCzarnycatbutts: anyway, playing with apt-get directly requires some knowledge and being prepared to fix system17:21
KotCzarnyfun, bugtracker is set to php.net17:21
DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.org/packages/view/php5-common/17:21
KotCzarnyguy didnt change it17:21
KotCzarnyand 2013 is long time ago17:22
CatButtsI won't learn to make omelete without breaking some eggs!17:22
DocScrutinizer05CatButts: THATS the spirit :-)))17:22
KotCzarnyeven 201017:22
CatButtsbbl home17:22
KotCzarnythere should be a button in that packages/view/ that would add a 'this package is broken, warning'17:23
DocScrutinizer05http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/p/php5/php5-common_5.2.6-6maemo5_armel.deb  ->control.tar.gt  -> postm  ==> "#! /bin/bash"17:24
DocScrutinizer05though!!!!   >>5.2.6-6maemo5* Replacing utterly broken, uninstallable package, with uninstallable dummyPiotr Jawidzyk2012-05-27 23:31 UTC<<17:25
DocScrutinizer05HAHA, not really17:25
* DocScrutinizer05 is tempted to hit the almighty "DELETE" button on http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/p/php5/php5-common_5.2.6-6maemo5_armel.deb17:29
DocScrutinizer05can't edit comment17:30
DocScrutinizer05fsck midgard17:30
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DocScrutinizer05ohmy, fsckit!!!  maemo.org > Packages > Fremantle Extras-devel free armel > Php5-common 5.2.6-6maemo517:40
DocScrutinizer05~extras-devel17:40
infobotit has been said that extras-devel is http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel17:40
bencohsowhat?17:40
DocScrutinizer05extras-devel packages are *often* flawed17:40
KotCzarnybut being flawed for 7 years is enough reason to do something about it?17:41
DocScrutinizer05that's why you usually don't install from extras-devel17:41
DocScrutinizer05KotCzarny: go ahead. There's definitely a "ask to become maintainer" or somesuch button17:41
KotCzarnywill probably do, once my todo list scrolls far enough, heh17:42
DocScrutinizer05>>Request to be maintainer of this package<<17:42
* DocScrutinizer05 can't see which nutsbag would want php5 on N900, but...17:42
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KotCzarnyphp is quite nice c-like scripting language17:45
KotCzarnygreat for quick, one-off scripts17:45
KotCzarnyfor efficiency i usually rewrite them in c17:46
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KotCzarnybut for initial poc tasks it's great17:46
KotCzarnyofftopic, but some fun reading: https://www.reddit.com/r/linusrants/17:48
pkill9how simple would it be to compile PyQt4 for python3.4 (which is in extra-devel)?17:49
pkill9and also i guess sip17:50
pkill9since it uses that17:50
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DocScrutinizer05KotCzarny: php is maybe great for those who know that stuff, but for sure it's litwerally not nice to poor little N90018:27
KotCzarnynot true18:27
KotCzarnybash is worse, really18:28
DocScrutinizer05lol18:28
KotCzarnys/bash/shell scripting/18:28
infobotKotCzarny meant: shell scripting is worse, really18:28
DocScrutinizer05aiui PHP is OO18:28
KotCzarnynope18:28
bencohs/is/can be/18:28
DocScrutinizer05with GC and all shenaningans18:28
KotCzarnyyes18:28
CatButtsI noticed the existence of php5 on my n900 when I checked for free space on RootFS18:28
CatButts:p18:28
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KotCzarnyCatButts: did you ever flash clean this device?18:29
CatButts"how the hell did this get here, I didn't ordered it"18:29
CatButtsyou mean emmc+ combined?18:29
CatButtsyes18:29
KotCzarnythen it's your doing18:29
KotCzarnyyou should always check what dependencies app tries to pull18:29
CatButtsI probably did it in my sleep!18:30
DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/9720199218:31
DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/1168185818:32
KotCzarnyyou probably should update your locate db18:33
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DocScrutinizer05yeah, eventually18:36
DocScrutinizer05updatedb18:36
DocScrutinizer05eats battery18:36
DocScrutinizer05should shedule it on charge-state18:37
KotCzarny1.5year is quite a bit if you use locate command often18:37
DocScrutinizer05not that often18:37
DocScrutinizer05I know location of pretty much better half of all my files18:38
CatButtsI still can't remember, for the life of me18:43
CatButtsthe name of that one package18:43
sicelowhy not use 'find' then?18:43
DocScrutinizer05musorgsky? that's my "never know"18:44
KotCzarnyis apt histore kept on n900 or nuked?18:44
KotCzarny*history18:44
CatButts[18:43] <sicelo> why not use 'find' then?18:44
DocScrutinizer05lol, nice one18:44
* CatButts pipes electrical signals directly into 'find'18:44
CatButts*electrical signals from his brain18:45
CatButtsit was for managing connection through bluetooth, wireless and usb18:45
CatButtsit was advertised as a helper for programmer/debuger18:45
CatButtssomething18:45
CatButtsupon enabling usb network and plugging it into PC, it got recognized as a new usb device18:46
CatButtsrequiring special driver installed18:46
CatButtsI can't find it in HAM18:46
CatButtsby relevant terms18:46
CatButtsoh, it's a GUI app18:47
CatButtsnot console18:47
KotCzarnyapt-cache search helper ?18:47
CatButtsdoes it search descriptions too?18:47
KotCzarnyworth a shot18:48
CatButtsI only tried HAM18:48
CatButtsalso, I found it before phone wipe18:48
CatButts2 maemo installs ago18:48
CatButtsor 318:48
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CatButtsI am tempted to install python3.419:14
KotCzarnymake a backup, then go for it19:14
CatButtsgopher it19:14
CatButtshttp://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/gopher.it19:14
CatButtswhat's taken out of minimal?19:15
CatButts*out of python with minimal package19:15
pkill9i installed python3.4, haven't had any major problems so fare19:19
pkill9far*19:19
CatButtsfart19:19
CatButtswell, it's optified19:20
CatButtsunlike php5 :P19:20
CatButtsmaemo's limited keypad makes me appreciate lack of braces :P19:23
bencohxkb makes remapping easy :)19:37
bencohn900 features quite a lot of keys for such a small keyboard actually :)19:38
pkill9plz could someone compile PyQt4 for python3.4? :>19:38
KotCzarnypkill9: someone could19:38
KotCzarny;)19:38
enycbut but but but but19:39
pkill9plz do it for me KotCzarny xP19:39
KotCzarnyerm, lets see, my todo list extends probably +20 years from now19:39
enycCSSU updated lately =)19:39
enycI just wanted to know if cssu udpate will/won't come out in a thumb variant.19:40
CatButtsthumb is quite a bit behind testing19:40
CatButtsI think it was 2 years, before the recent update19:41
enycooooooh i was'nt aware of that19:41
enycwhats going on wit that now?  is this to be resolved?19:41
enyci wasn't aware of thumb packages 'prioritized' over non-thumb pakcakges, however19:42
CatButtsinteresting19:43
CatButtspython 2.5 doesn't even come with pip19:43
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CatButtsI think I should do the locate thing19:50
CatButtson windows, this is my friend19:52
CatButtshttp://www.voidtools.com/19:52
KotCzarnylearn find19:52
CatButtsntfs facilitates this19:52
CatButtshow's ext2 by comparison?19:53
KotCzarnylearn find19:53
CatButtssh: learn not found19:53
CatButtsE: Couldn't find package learn19:54
CatButtsI'm kidding19:54
CatButtsthanks19:59
CatButtsthere appears to be a distinct lack of pip20:24
sicelogo the long way :)20:25
sicelocompile the module20:25
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freemangordonenyc: CatButts: thumb is equal the the latest -testing before recent20:30
CatButtsthe changelog in the maemo wiki pages doesn't seem to reflect that20:31
freemangordonfix it20:31
freemangordonCatButts: https://github.com/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blob/thumb-testing/debian/changelog20:32
CatButtsaaaaah, I see20:32
sicelofreemangordon: by the way, it should be fine to install some of the new -testing packages in thumb?20:33
freemangordonsure20:33
CatButtsbut wait20:33
CatButtsthis is up to 201120:33
sicelothanks. i wish to test the battery thing :)20:34
freemangordonsicelo: it should be fine to install the whole -testing over thumb20:34
freemangordonCatButts: what?20:34
siceloawesome!20:34
freemangordonCatButts: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 13:22:34 +030020:34
* CatButts scratches head20:34
CatButtsyeah ok, I'll go in my corner20:34
freemangordonyou mean "21.2011.38"?20:34
freemangordonthis is nokia PR it is based on top20:35
CatButtsI forgot that's PR's date20:35
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CatButtsso, python 2.5 cannot be replaced without trouble, yes?20:49
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siceloyou probably could. but why would you want/need  to?20:53
CatButtspurrhaps you are right20:55
CatButtslet sleeping dogs lie20:55
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KotCzarnyfreemangordon: i've added that github link to wiki page, https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb#Changelog21:21
KotCzarnyand i think there is no point in having each change as a bullet, it clutters the page unnecesarily, will clean it up in a moment21:23
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KotCzarnydone.21:31
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CatButtsI got pip21:46
CatButtshttps://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py21:46
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pkill9helo CatButts22:15
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CatButtssee above22:16
CatButtssince you're interested in python22:16
CatButtsI applied it to python3.422:16
pkill9yeah i did that, it works well22:19
pkill9i installed it to user directory22:19
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