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| enyc | hrrm | 02:25 |
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| enyc | is this CSSU 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo12 going to have a +thumb0 variant produced sometime soon? | 02:26 |
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| Vajb | i did apt-get install curl and it pulled libcurl3. After that cssu update went through in ham. All seems to be fine now. | 10:15 |
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| enyc | Vajb: kk but what about thumb variant? | 11:46 |
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| Vajb | enyc: no idea. I don't use thumb. I had problem installing newest cssu update. | 12:05 |
| enyc | okies | 12:07 |
| enyc | are there other maemo dev channles or so i might want to know about? | 12:07 |
| enyc | join #fptf | 12:07 |
| enyc | there was some freematle porting channel something i forget | 12:07 |
| KotCzarny | in topic there is #maemo-ssu | 12:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Done another spam zap on WMO and protected QBW page to unregistered, it's the 3-4 time in a row it's been hit so seems sensible. | 12:09 |
| Vajb | ~fptf | 12:10 |
| infobot | fptf is probably the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308 | 12:10 |
| KotCzarny | some other channel i frequent has one useful feature that after registeration user is in group 'none' and cannot do any edits until he/she is placed by an admin in 'people' group | 12:11 |
| KotCzarny | maybe it might be implemented easily in wmo? | 12:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have been told our medaiwiki version is very old and doesn't have a lot of the anti-spam features available in new version. there is also integration with midgard that made it more difficult to upgrade | 12:13 |
| KotCzarny | still, might be worth checking if it has user groups with rights management | 12:16 |
| sixwheeledbeast | this is all information I recall from during/slightly after migration when I started "looking after" the wiki. | 12:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Issue is with unregistered users but as it's a wiki I do not wish to block all unregistered users if I can help it. | 12:21 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Also anything to do with user groups and users would have to be done by sysop not admin | 12:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Unregistered users cannot create pages only edit and read existing. | 12:25 |
| Vajb | it seems that apt has some updates still. I guess they are not ready and hence not included in newest cssu-testing? | 13:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | if you block unregistered users, spam bot will register | 13:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pointless | 13:17 |
| KotCzarny | not true, it requires additional work for them, which means they often go for low profile targets with autoreg | 13:18 |
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| Wikiwide | Tired. With the bike rentals popping up here - obike, reddygo, mobike, ofo - it would be neat to have one bike rental app to fit them all, with plugins if required. So far, their official apps only support Android and iOS. I wonder if Apkenv is going to be compiled for Maemo 5 soon... | 13:23 |
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| Wikiwide | Also, in the photo http://imgbin.ca/image.uploads/06-12-2017/original-152c5395e0cf4016861191e87bc20382.jpg The black wire detached its soldered end from green PCB, delayered it, wavers up and down, making the circuit extremely unreliable, as in, functioning only with active and patient human intervention. How to fix it? I don't think this kind of damage is fixable by more soldering. Well, maybe... | 13:31 |
| Wikiwide | Just some solar-powered Christmas lights. Typical "made in China, use once and then see it falling apart and throw it away" circuitry. | 13:32 |
| KotCzarny | well, since it looks like ground, you can probably solder it to the other pin, unless there is something on the other side | 13:33 |
| KotCzarny | i thinke there is conducting glue too available | 13:34 |
| Wikiwide | Conducting glue... Don't think we have it at home. Makerspace is closed, for semester break in University. | 13:35 |
| Wikiwide | It's night here, will probably try more things in the morning when my mind is more alive. I just quite distrust soldering in my hands as means to restore something to "like new" state. Wish the PCBs were either more like LEGO, or indestructible. | 13:37 |
| KotCzarny | i suck at soldering too | 13:38 |
| KotCzarny | usually i use screw-in connectors and adapters, and generally order things pre-soldered | 13:39 |
| Wikiwide | Probably matter of tools. If it was like a 3D printer, done by machine with human thinking of coordinates and overseeing the process, then it would be less affected by shaking hands. | 13:40 |
| Wikiwide | Good night. May your hardware never break, and your software work unbugged. | 13:42 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 13:42 |
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| CatButts | ~ssh | 13:50 |
| infobot | hmm... ssh is http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:OpenSSH, or http://www.openssh.org | 13:50 |
| CatButts | eh | 13:50 |
| CatButts | https://wiki.maemo.org/SSH#Server | 13:51 |
| CatButts | I'm stuck at this point | 13:51 |
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| KotCzarny | define 'stuck' | 13:52 |
| KotCzarny | because ssh package in repos enable ssh server too | 13:52 |
| CatButts | so it's on by default? | 13:53 |
| CatButts | and I don't need to enable it myself? | 13:53 |
| KotCzarny | if you install it, yeah | 13:53 |
| CatButts | ah, good | 13:53 |
| KotCzarny | unless you already broke the config | 13:53 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 13:53 |
| CatButts | purrhaps not | 13:53 |
| CatButts | I generated keys | 13:54 |
| KotCzarny | try apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server | 13:54 |
| KotCzarny | maybe it will work out of the box | 13:54 |
| CatButts | 22 is default port, yes? | 13:55 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 13:55 |
| CatButts | I will try and connect | 13:55 |
| KotCzarny | check with: netstat -antuw|grep 22 if anything is listening on device | 13:56 |
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| CatButts | tcp 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN | 14:06 |
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| CatButts | looks good | 14:08 |
| CatButts | say, there was an utility in the repos | 14:08 |
| CatButts | I can't find it no more | 14:08 |
| CatButts | it would allow you to view your IP | 14:09 |
| CatButts | as well as order activation of an USB network | 14:09 |
| KotCzarny | links --dump google.com/?q=whatismyip | 14:09 |
| KotCzarny | oh wait, you talk about local ip | 14:09 |
| CatButts | yes | 14:09 |
| KotCzarny | ifconfig/ip | 14:09 |
| KotCzarny | you can wrap it in any pygtk script and be done | 14:10 |
| KotCzarny | could be one-liner even | 14:10 |
| CatButts | I am currently trying to set up an adhoc wireless connection from laptop to phone | 14:17 |
| KotCzarny | if you only want to do things temporarily use usbnet | 14:18 |
| CatButts | ~usbnet | 14:18 |
| infobot | usbnet is probably at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking or and usbnet in 2.4.18 (desktop) is broken, you want to use > 2.4.19-pre2 or see windows usbnet for windows support or a patched version is at http://handhelds.org/~paxanima/usbnet/, or at http://zorian.kicks-ass.org/files/usbnet-2.4.21-rc7.tar.gz, or http://handhelds.org/~mallum/usbnet-2.4.20.patch, or dhcp over usbnet, ... | 14:18 |
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| CatButts | interdasting | 14:18 |
| Vajb | is this the way to share device internet for laptop? | 14:19 |
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| CatButts | I'm probably going to have to sort my apt-get headache first | 14:20 |
| CatButts | for which, I ssh into phone | 14:20 |
| * CatButts stack traces his troubles | 14:24 | |
| KotCzarny | vajb: usbnet is normal ipv4 interface, but you will need some firewall rules to make it work in your case i think | 14:24 |
| KotCzarny | CatButts: for ssh over wifi its best to lower power savings from max to moderate | 14:25 |
| KotCzarny | otherwise it will be very laggy | 14:25 |
| CatButts | make a python script for somethign but want py2.7 first-> broken partial package preventing me from installing py and other things -> try to ssh into device -> try to adhoc-wifi from PC -> you are here | 14:26 |
| KotCzarny | i think adhoc wifi should work for n900, there is even hotspot app for that | 14:27 |
| KotCzarny | obviously only good for testing/unsafe things | 14:27 |
| CatButts | does it allow WPA? | 14:27 |
| KotCzarny | not that i know of | 14:28 |
| KotCzarny | *none | 14:29 |
| CatButts | I lowered PC's adhoc to WEP instead of WPA2-Personal and it seemed to work | 14:32 |
| CatButts | desktop widget for IP shows nothing | 14:32 |
| CatButts | weird | 14:32 |
| KotCzarny | unconfigured interface? | 14:32 |
| Vajb | so if i am restricted to only internet provided by mobile, what would i do? | 14:34 |
| Vajb | well can always insert my sim to laptop tho | 14:34 |
| CatButts | you want to share phone net to PC? | 14:34 |
| CatButts | look into 'thetering' then | 14:34 |
| Vajb | alright, thx | 14:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal usbnet | 14:48 |
| infobot | "usbnet" is "at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking or and usbnet in 2.4.18 (desktop) is broken, you want to use > 2.4.19-pre2 or see windows usbnet for windows support or a patched version is at http://handhelds.org/~paxanima/usbnet/, or at http://zorian.kicks-ass.org/files/usbnet-2.4.21-rc7.tar.gz, or http://handhelds.org/~mallum/usbnet-2.4.20.patch, or dhcp over usbnet, ... | 14:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2017-12-05 Tue 19:00:08] <CatButts> dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-removal script: No such file or directory [2017-12-05 Tue 19:00:52] <CatButts> dpkg: error processing php5-common (--purge): [2017-12-05 Tue 19:01:20] <CatButts> subproccess post-removal script returned error exit status 2 | 14:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | check for the accordingly named script in apt/dpkg "cache", fix that script to not return error | 14:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /var/lib/dpkg/info/*php*.postrm | 14:53 |
| CatButts | I have arrived to conclusion that n900 cannot connect to adhoc wifis with WPA2-Personal | 15:11 |
| CatButts | only WEP | 15:11 |
| KotCzarny | you know that adhoc doesnt come with wpa in any way? | 15:11 |
| * CatButts scratches head | 15:12 | |
| CatButts | WPA2 appears to be an option when I set it up on PC | 15:14 |
| KotCzarny | yes, but there is no wpa/wpa2 with adhoc mode | 15:15 |
| KotCzarny | simply because it's not compatible | 15:15 |
| KotCzarny | there must be master(ap) | 15:15 |
| KotCzarny | so most likely your pc will set itself as ap | 15:16 |
| CatButts | I see meow | 15:16 |
| CatButts | also, windows 7 | 15:16 |
| KotCzarny | unless things have changed | 15:16 |
| KotCzarny | and there is some extension hack | 15:17 |
| CatButts | so it's somethingsomethingnonstandard | 15:22 |
| KotCzarny | cant get info how secure is wpa over adhoc | 15:28 |
| KotCzarny | i think it's just wep with a bit stronger hash, but still, encrypted with weak algo and static key, so not secure | 15:35 |
| CatButts | errrr | 16:04 |
| CatButts | >login as:_ | 16:05 |
| CatButts | what is the N900's default username | 16:05 |
| KotCzarny | what are you using/ ssh? | 16:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | user | 16:05 |
| CatButts | yes | 16:05 |
| KotCzarny | isnt logging as user pointless? | 16:06 |
| KotCzarny | 1/ it doesnt have a password | 16:06 |
| KotCzarny | 2/ probably disabled because of 1 | 16:06 |
| KotCzarny | 3/ setting password will break maemo i think | 16:06 |
| KotCzarny | so just use root | 16:06 |
| KotCzarny | you are going to do root work anyway | 16:06 |
| KotCzarny | it asked you for root password when installing ssh server afair | 16:07 |
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| CatButts | yeah, couldn't log into user | 16:09 |
| CatButts | root it is | 16:09 |
| CatButts | php5-common.postrm, found it | 16:12 |
| CatButts | ugh, vi | 16:12 |
| CatButts | can't launch leafpad, can I :P ? | 16:12 |
| KotCzarny | bit hard | 16:15 |
| KotCzarny | install nano pico or mc | 16:16 |
| KotCzarny | (mc has mcedit) | 16:16 |
| CatButts | yeah, nano I can get along with | 16:16 |
| CatButts | 16:18 | |
| CatButts | sorry about that, the cat stepped on the keyboard | 16:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | nothing wrong with vi... Why would a user password be an issue in Maemo? | 16:19 |
| KotCzarny | swb: my memory cloudly remember it was an issue | 16:19 |
| KotCzarny | *remembers | 16:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | hmm | 16:20 |
| CatButts | errrrr | 16:23 |
| CatButts | undo in nano is recent adition, yes? | 16:27 |
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| CatButts | https://pastebin.com/TCzrwRVG looks fairly sane to me | 16:39 |
| CatButts | perhaps move the exit 0 a bit closer :P | 16:39 |
| CatButts | to start | 16:39 |
| CatButts | same error | 16:41 |
| KotCzarny | remove set -e | 16:41 |
| CatButts | I placed exit 0 before set -e | 16:42 |
| CatButts | will try | 16:42 |
| CatButts | #set -e | 16:43 |
| CatButts | same error | 16:43 |
| CatButts | hash is comment character in bash, yes? | 16:44 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 16:46 |
| * CatButts manually executes the rm | 16:48 | |
| CatButts | but that changes nothing | 16:49 |
| CatButts | I don't understand apt-get | 16:51 |
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| CatButts | it doesn't allow me to carry an operation on some package because fault in unrelated package | 16:52 |
| CatButts | if I try to purge php5-common, it tells me cvm is missing unzip dependency | 16:53 |
| CatButts | if I try to install unzip, it tells me it can't because php5-common's left bollock is itchy | 16:53 |
| pkill9 | lol | 16:53 |
| sixwheeledbeast | this is n900 yes? | 16:55 |
| CatButts | yes | 16:55 |
| CatButts | I have no idea how php5 got in there in the first place! | 16:55 |
| sixwheeledbeast | apt can cause a dependency mess in Maemo, that's why it's not recommended | 16:55 |
| KotCzarny | install unzip via dpkg -i ? | 16:56 |
| CatButts | > apt-get headache | 16:56 |
| CatButts | E: Invalid operation aspirin | 16:56 |
| KotCzarny | you can also try force options to uninstall php5 | 16:56 |
| CatButts | I did | 16:57 |
| CatButts | the -f switch | 16:57 |
| CatButts | doesn't dpkg require a deb file? | 16:58 |
| KotCzarny | um, -f is not force switch | 16:58 |
| CatButts | derp | 16:58 |
| KotCzarny | -f is fix-broken | 16:58 |
| KotCzarny | --force-yes | 16:58 |
| KotCzarny | Force yes; this is a dangerous option that will cause apt to continue without prompting if it is doing something potentially harmful. It should | 16:58 |
| KotCzarny | not be used except in very special situations. Using force-yes can potentially destroy your system! Configuration Item: APT::Get::force-yes. | 16:58 |
| KotCzarny | but you can also use dpkg directly to remove php5 | 16:59 |
| CatButts | php5-common | 17:00 |
| CatButts | > dpkg --force-all -r php5-common | 17:03 |
| CatButts | same | 17:03 |
| KotCzarny | what is the error? | 17:04 |
| CatButts | https://pastebin.com/Am7WbkhW | 17:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | CatButts: make "rm -rf /var/lib/php5" -> "rm -rf /var/lib/php5||:" | 17:05 |
| * CatButts tries | 17:05 | |
| CatButts | I slapped an 'exit 0' before that line, though | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | don't move "exit 0" !!! you don't want the script to exit before it has done its thing, no? | 17:06 |
| CatButts | I want it to just say 'yes sir, donedid' and move on | 17:06 |
| CatButts | if need be, I will manually remove the file/folder | 17:07 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, but it says there is no postrm script for php5-common | 17:07 |
| KotCzarny | if i see it correctly | 17:07 |
| KotCzarny | what is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/php5-common.postrm ? | 17:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | CatButts: (( [2017-12-06 Wed 15:48:53] * CatButts manually executes the rm [2017-12-06 Wed 15:49:31] <CatButts> but that changes nothing )) of course not. The problem isn't that rm can't remove an existing dir, the problem is rm vlowing chunks since there's already no dir to remove | 17:07 |
| KotCzarny | dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-removal script: No such file or directory | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maually removing the dir doesn't help shit. manually CREATE it rather! ;-) | 17:08 |
| KotCzarny | so either it wasnt installed correctly, or you have removed it | 17:08 |
| KotCzarny | or package is just broken | 17:08 |
| CatButts | what if I just remove the rm | 17:08 |
| CatButts | I commented it out and executed | 17:09 |
| CatButts | I am thinking that no matter what I do to this script, same thing will happen | 17:09 |
| CatButts | so maybe the break is somewhere else in chain | 17:09 |
| KotCzarny | CatButts: can you check if there is postrm script? | 17:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or you changed permissions of the file | 17:10 |
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| KotCzarny | nah, it would say not-executable in error | 17:10 |
| CatButts | Nokia-N900:/var/lib/dpkg/info# nano php5-common.postrm | 17:10 |
| KotCzarny | it clearly says 'no file' | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | shebang looks weird >>#! /bin/bash<< but that's not a problem yet | 17:10 |
| CatButts | she move, she move | 17:10 |
| CatButts | ooooh baby, she move | 17:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui rm says "no such file" | 17:11 |
| KotCzarny | dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-removal script: No such file or directory | 17:11 |
| KotCzarny | CatButts: ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/php5-common.postrm ? | 17:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | subproccess post-removal script returned error exit status 2 | 17:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and what's https://pastebin.com/TCzrwRVG then? | 17:12 |
| CatButts | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 90 Dec 6 17:11 /var/lib/dpkg/info/php5-common.postrm | 17:12 |
| KotCzarny | also, that line would clearly execute with --purge | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | looks good | 17:12 |
| KotCzarny | can you try removing first line? | 17:13 |
| KotCzarny | that shebang one | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HUH???? | 17:13 |
| KotCzarny | or just add space after # | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why? | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what?? | 17:13 |
| KotCzarny | just to make sure it's not about it trying to run /bin/bash | 17:13 |
| CatButts | hmmmmmm | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | make that #!/bin/sh | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | !!!!! | 17:13 |
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| KotCzarny | anyway, package is shit | 17:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bin/bash is bullshit | 17:14 |
| KotCzarny | and should be fixed | 17:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | obviously. | 17:14 |
| KotCzarny | where did you get it? | 17:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fails when bash not installed | 17:14 |
| CatButts | lololololol | 17:15 |
| CatButts | #!/bin/sh | 17:15 |
| KotCzarny | well, it shouldnt, because there is a space after #!, but somehow it tries to run bin bash | 17:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now when garbled shebang, weiiiiird things happen, particularly gibberish error messages like "foo.postrm - no such file" while evidently it's there | 17:15 |
| CatButts | I should make a symbolic link | 17:15 |
| KotCzarny | no, you shouldnt | 17:16 |
| KotCzarny | they are incompatible | 17:16 |
| KotCzarny | but you can install bash from repo | 17:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, fix shebang | 17:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or that | 17:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though apt-get won't do shit until this is fixed | 17:16 |
| CatButts | apt-get bash head | 17:17 |
| KotCzarny | i think the oackage name is gnu-bash or something | 17:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 17:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also doesn't matter | 17:17 |
| KotCzarny | right. there is bash | 17:17 |
| KotCzarny | wonder if it install bash3 or 4 | 17:17 |
| KotCzarny | because there are both | 17:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fix the damn postrm shebang | 17:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 4 is OK | 17:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though has no "help" anymore | 17:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ | 17:18 |
| CatButts | I fixed it | 17:18 |
| KotCzarny | no, we did :P | 17:18 |
| CatButts | phphew removed | 17:18 |
| CatButts | you fixed it | 17:18 |
| CatButts | I typed | 17:19 |
| CatButts | there | 17:19 |
| KotCzarny | now answer where did you get that package | 17:19 |
| CatButts | it's a mystery | 17:19 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 fetches the RM-hammer | 17:19 | |
| KotCzarny | because it's clearly just compiled without any checking | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~pkg | 17:20 |
| infobot | hmm... pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ | 17:20 |
| CatButts | [16:55] <CatButts> I have no idea how php5 got in there in the first place! | 17:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry still no better URL | 17:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://tinyurl.com/y8oh2rru | 17:21 |
| KotCzarny | catbutts: anyway, playing with apt-get directly requires some knowledge and being prepared to fix system | 17:21 |
| KotCzarny | fun, bugtracker is set to php.net | 17:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/php5-common/ | 17:21 |
| KotCzarny | guy didnt change it | 17:21 |
| KotCzarny | and 2013 is long time ago | 17:22 |
| CatButts | I won't learn to make omelete without breaking some eggs! | 17:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | CatButts: THATS the spirit :-))) | 17:22 |
| KotCzarny | even 2010 | 17:22 |
| CatButts | bbl home | 17:22 |
| KotCzarny | there should be a button in that packages/view/ that would add a 'this package is broken, warning' | 17:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/p/php5/php5-common_5.2.6-6maemo5_armel.deb ->control.tar.gt -> postm ==> "#! /bin/bash" | 17:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though!!!! >>5.2.6-6maemo5* Replacing utterly broken, uninstallable package, with uninstallable dummyPiotr Jawidzyk2012-05-27 23:31 UTC<< | 17:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HAHA, not really | 17:25 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 is tempted to hit the almighty "DELETE" button on http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/p/php5/php5-common_5.2.6-6maemo5_armel.deb | 17:29 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | can't edit comment | 17:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fsck midgard | 17:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ohmy, fsckit!!! maemo.org > Packages > Fremantle Extras-devel free armel > Php5-common 5.2.6-6maemo5 | 17:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~extras-devel | 17:40 |
| infobot | it has been said that extras-devel is http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel | 17:40 |
| bencoh | sowhat? | 17:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | extras-devel packages are *often* flawed | 17:40 |
| KotCzarny | but being flawed for 7 years is enough reason to do something about it? | 17:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why you usually don't install from extras-devel | 17:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | KotCzarny: go ahead. There's definitely a "ask to become maintainer" or somesuch button | 17:41 |
| KotCzarny | will probably do, once my todo list scrolls far enough, heh | 17:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>Request to be maintainer of this package<< | 17:42 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 can't see which nutsbag would want php5 on N900, but... | 17:42 | |
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| KotCzarny | php is quite nice c-like scripting language | 17:45 |
| KotCzarny | great for quick, one-off scripts | 17:45 |
| KotCzarny | for efficiency i usually rewrite them in c | 17:46 |
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| KotCzarny | but for initial poc tasks it's great | 17:46 |
| KotCzarny | offtopic, but some fun reading: https://www.reddit.com/r/linusrants/ | 17:48 |
| pkill9 | how simple would it be to compile PyQt4 for python3.4 (which is in extra-devel)? | 17:49 |
| pkill9 | and also i guess sip | 17:50 |
| pkill9 | since it uses that | 17:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | KotCzarny: php is maybe great for those who know that stuff, but for sure it's litwerally not nice to poor little N900 | 18:27 |
| KotCzarny | not true | 18:27 |
| KotCzarny | bash is worse, really | 18:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lol | 18:28 |
| KotCzarny | s/bash/shell scripting/ | 18:28 |
| infobot | KotCzarny meant: shell scripting is worse, really | 18:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui PHP is OO | 18:28 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 18:28 |
| bencoh | s/is/can be/ | 18:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | with GC and all shenaningans | 18:28 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 18:28 |
| CatButts | I noticed the existence of php5 on my n900 when I checked for free space on RootFS | 18:28 |
| CatButts | :p | 18:28 |
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| KotCzarny | CatButts: did you ever flash clean this device? | 18:29 |
| CatButts | "how the hell did this get here, I didn't ordered it" | 18:29 |
| CatButts | you mean emmc+ combined? | 18:29 |
| CatButts | yes | 18:29 |
| KotCzarny | then it's your doing | 18:29 |
| KotCzarny | you should always check what dependencies app tries to pull | 18:29 |
| CatButts | I probably did it in my sleep! | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/97201992 | 18:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/11681858 | 18:32 |
| KotCzarny | you probably should update your locate db | 18:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, eventually | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | updatedb | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eats battery | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | should shedule it on charge-state | 18:37 |
| KotCzarny | 1.5year is quite a bit if you use locate command often | 18:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not that often | 18:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I know location of pretty much better half of all my files | 18:38 |
| CatButts | I still can't remember, for the life of me | 18:43 |
| CatButts | the name of that one package | 18:43 |
| sicelo | why not use 'find' then? | 18:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | musorgsky? that's my "never know" | 18:44 |
| KotCzarny | is apt histore kept on n900 or nuked? | 18:44 |
| KotCzarny | *history | 18:44 |
| CatButts | [18:43] <sicelo> why not use 'find' then? | 18:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lol, nice one | 18:44 |
| * CatButts pipes electrical signals directly into 'find' | 18:44 | |
| CatButts | *electrical signals from his brain | 18:45 |
| CatButts | it was for managing connection through bluetooth, wireless and usb | 18:45 |
| CatButts | it was advertised as a helper for programmer/debuger | 18:45 |
| CatButts | something | 18:45 |
| CatButts | upon enabling usb network and plugging it into PC, it got recognized as a new usb device | 18:46 |
| CatButts | requiring special driver installed | 18:46 |
| CatButts | I can't find it in HAM | 18:46 |
| CatButts | by relevant terms | 18:46 |
| CatButts | oh, it's a GUI app | 18:47 |
| CatButts | not console | 18:47 |
| KotCzarny | apt-cache search helper ? | 18:47 |
| CatButts | does it search descriptions too? | 18:47 |
| KotCzarny | worth a shot | 18:48 |
| CatButts | I only tried HAM | 18:48 |
| CatButts | also, I found it before phone wipe | 18:48 |
| CatButts | 2 maemo installs ago | 18:48 |
| CatButts | or 3 | 18:48 |
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| CatButts | I am tempted to install python3.4 | 19:14 |
| KotCzarny | make a backup, then go for it | 19:14 |
| CatButts | gopher it | 19:14 |
| CatButts | http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/gopher.it | 19:14 |
| CatButts | what's taken out of minimal? | 19:15 |
| CatButts | *out of python with minimal package | 19:15 |
| pkill9 | i installed python3.4, haven't had any major problems so fare | 19:19 |
| pkill9 | far* | 19:19 |
| CatButts | fart | 19:19 |
| CatButts | well, it's optified | 19:20 |
| CatButts | unlike php5 :P | 19:20 |
| CatButts | maemo's limited keypad makes me appreciate lack of braces :P | 19:23 |
| bencoh | xkb makes remapping easy :) | 19:37 |
| bencoh | n900 features quite a lot of keys for such a small keyboard actually :) | 19:38 |
| pkill9 | plz could someone compile PyQt4 for python3.4? :> | 19:38 |
| KotCzarny | pkill9: someone could | 19:38 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 19:38 |
| enyc | but but but but but | 19:39 |
| pkill9 | plz do it for me KotCzarny xP | 19:39 |
| KotCzarny | erm, lets see, my todo list extends probably +20 years from now | 19:39 |
| enyc | CSSU updated lately =) | 19:39 |
| enyc | I just wanted to know if cssu udpate will/won't come out in a thumb variant. | 19:40 |
| CatButts | thumb is quite a bit behind testing | 19:40 |
| CatButts | I think it was 2 years, before the recent update | 19:41 |
| enyc | ooooooh i was'nt aware of that | 19:41 |
| enyc | whats going on wit that now? is this to be resolved? | 19:41 |
| enyc | i wasn't aware of thumb packages 'prioritized' over non-thumb pakcakges, however | 19:42 |
| CatButts | interesting | 19:43 |
| CatButts | python 2.5 doesn't even come with pip | 19:43 |
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| CatButts | I think I should do the locate thing | 19:50 |
| CatButts | on windows, this is my friend | 19:52 |
| CatButts | http://www.voidtools.com/ | 19:52 |
| KotCzarny | learn find | 19:52 |
| CatButts | ntfs facilitates this | 19:52 |
| CatButts | how's ext2 by comparison? | 19:53 |
| KotCzarny | learn find | 19:53 |
| CatButts | sh: learn not found | 19:53 |
| CatButts | E: Couldn't find package learn | 19:54 |
| CatButts | I'm kidding | 19:54 |
| CatButts | thanks | 19:59 |
| CatButts | there appears to be a distinct lack of pip | 20:24 |
| sicelo | go the long way :) | 20:25 |
| sicelo | compile the module | 20:25 |
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| freemangordon | enyc: CatButts: thumb is equal the the latest -testing before recent | 20:30 |
| CatButts | the changelog in the maemo wiki pages doesn't seem to reflect that | 20:31 |
| freemangordon | fix it | 20:31 |
| freemangordon | CatButts: https://github.com/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blob/thumb-testing/debian/changelog | 20:32 |
| CatButts | aaaaah, I see | 20:32 |
| sicelo | freemangordon: by the way, it should be fine to install some of the new -testing packages in thumb? | 20:33 |
| freemangordon | sure | 20:33 |
| CatButts | but wait | 20:33 |
| CatButts | this is up to 2011 | 20:33 |
| sicelo | thanks. i wish to test the battery thing :) | 20:34 |
| freemangordon | sicelo: it should be fine to install the whole -testing over thumb | 20:34 |
| freemangordon | CatButts: what? | 20:34 |
| sicelo | awesome! | 20:34 |
| freemangordon | CatButts: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 13:22:34 +0300 | 20:34 |
| * CatButts scratches head | 20:34 | |
| CatButts | yeah ok, I'll go in my corner | 20:34 |
| freemangordon | you mean "21.2011.38"? | 20:34 |
| freemangordon | this is nokia PR it is based on top | 20:35 |
| CatButts | I forgot that's PR's date | 20:35 |
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| CatButts | so, python 2.5 cannot be replaced without trouble, yes? | 20:49 |
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| sicelo | you probably could. but why would you want/need to? | 20:53 |
| CatButts | purrhaps you are right | 20:55 |
| CatButts | let sleeping dogs lie | 20:55 |
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| KotCzarny | freemangordon: i've added that github link to wiki page, https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb#Changelog | 21:21 |
| KotCzarny | and i think there is no point in having each change as a bullet, it clutters the page unnecesarily, will clean it up in a moment | 21:23 |
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| KotCzarny | done. | 21:31 |
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| CatButts | I got pip | 21:46 |
| CatButts | https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py | 21:46 |
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| pkill9 | helo CatButts | 22:15 |
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| CatButts | see above | 22:16 |
| CatButts | since you're interested in python | 22:16 |
| CatButts | I applied it to python3.4 | 22:16 |
| pkill9 | yeah i did that, it works well | 22:19 |
| pkill9 | i installed it to user directory | 22:19 |
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