IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2017-12-08

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OksanaKotCzarny : Ah, yes. LCD flat cable can be easily cut by a card (paper, cardboard or plastic) sneaking inside the slider. Or just wear out because of metal/sand/slider/whatever. Haven't heard about modem problems for a while, but USB port is like the most common-to-occur-and-difficult-to-fix problem02:35
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OksanaBroken screws: I can fairly easily remove most of "flat head, round +" screws with screw extractor (used to just drill off the heads before that, but it's not a kind solution). Haven't seen broken threads in a long while.02:36
Oksana>> and my wakeup switch is worn out from use to flatness, helps to have nails in that case << Fun, haven't seen this one. But setting auto-black-screen to more than 10 seconds helps. Because unfortunately, just tapping the screen to wake it up doesn't seem to work? Not like it does with Nokia N9?02:38
OksanaSlider mechanism also peels off black paint from part of assembly. Just because of friction of spring.02:39
Oksana>> of course the device isnot rated "water proof", so what a problem report is "green stain on PCB form water in device" ??? << Probably exposure to humid air, such as, on the beach. It was never dropped into water, or spilled on.02:41
Oksanagreen stain on EM metallic shields on PCB, the ones which are visible when device is separated into two parts by removing four long screws.02:42
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MaxdamantusI put a blob of epoxy on the slider on my other case, feels decent, but haven't used it actively since I swapped it with another case while waiting for it to cure.02:47
Maxdamantus(because the notch was warn down)02:48
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* Oksana was wondering; regarding the LCD flat cable, what's the name of the connector that attaches it to motherboard? Is it possible to extend the length of this flex cable? Because then, it might be doable to turn the slider into something "passport"-shaped, 11x12 cm. Of course, it would be a touch too03:23
* Oksana wide to be really passport form-factor. But still, it opens more possibilities for exploring different case for the same device.03:26
OksanaWhere can I find battery cover for Nokia N900? EBay isn't helpful: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-Nokia-N900-Akku-Cover-Batterie-Deckel-Schwarz/18266150559903:53
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DocScrutinizer05living near sea may cause slaty mist in air that kills alu windows, cars, and probably also the zinc on shielding cans. Those nano salt crystals get everywhere- That's right04:05
DocScrutinizer05s/slat/salt/04:05
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: living near sea may cause salty mist in air that kills alu windows, cars, and probably also the zinc on shielding cans. Those nano salt crystals get everywhere- That's right04:05
DocScrutinizer05>>find battery cover<< get a whole case, prolly easier and should be same price. When you're lucky the cover cam mech etc is OK04:07
DocScrutinizer05they were sold for like 10 to 15 bucks, a 3 years ago04:07
DocScrutinizer05krdb test04:22
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Svetahow do i reset maemo wiki password?05:38
DocScrutinizer05ask maintainer05:44
DocScrutinizer05~wmo05:44
infobothmm... wmo is http://wiki.maemo.org05:44
DocScrutinizer05Sveta: user name?05:45
SvetaDocScrutinizer05: Gryllida05:47
DocScrutinizer05umm sorry, "passowrds must not get edited"05:47
OksanaCan passwords be emailed?05:47
Svetayou can enable emailing of password resets05:47
DocScrutinizer05there's http://susepaste.org/6254006505:48
OksanaOr alternatively, can old account be merged with new account?05:48
Svetathis is runnign 2009 version of mediawiki05:48
DocScrutinizer05yes, merge old account to new account, old account gets deleted AIUI. Then do same once more, to original username05:50
DocScrutinizer05see ^^^05:51
DocScrutinizer05http://susepaste.org/2276323005:52
DocScrutinizer05Oksana: http://susepaste.org/2019924805:56
DocScrutinizer05cheers o/05:56
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Vajbwhat av sw do you use? Both win and linux08:18
Vajbfound clamav and thinking if it is good replacement for my current avast av...08:19
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MaxdamantusNone.08:32
MaxdamantusHas always seemed like it would be ineffective to me.08:32
* Maxdamantus only uses Linux-based systems.08:33
MaxdamantusIf OSes did security the right way, they would tend to work somewhat like a web browser does.08:34
MaxdamantusWhere an application you run doesn't just get to look through all of the files visible to the person running it.08:35
Vajbmaybe there is a point for virtualization too08:50
MaxdamantusI don't think that's really necessary.08:51
MaxdamantusLinux is perfectly capable of supporting OSes that work that way.08:51
MaxdamantusThe usual platforms just don't make use of it.08:52
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KotCzarnyyup, what maxd said09:15
KotCzarnyif you use sw hygiene, you dont really need av09:16
KotCzarnywont help of course if your lan isnt safe and you use windows though09:16
KotCzarnylots of remote sploits09:16
KotCzarnybut personally, i dont use av at all, if i need to check new software i use online scanners (virustotal.com) befor installing09:17
KotCzarnyoksana: my wake up switch just worn out of the few years of use, i'm not waking it up every few minutes09:19
KotCzarnythere is alternative to press power button then slide on screen, but i prefer to keep my power button as virgin as i can ;)09:20
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MaxdamantusEpoxy solution: https://maxdamantus.eu.org/wus.jpg09:32
KotCzarnyyou should either host on imgur or make smaller images09:33
KotCzarny:)09:33
MaxdamantusYeah, probably.09:33
KotCzarnynice job tho09:33
sicelovirustotal for windows programs KotCzarny?09:34
KotCzarnysicelo: yes09:34
KotCzarnyit can even scan links directly, if your uplink is slow09:34
Maxdamantusimgur solution of epoxy solution: https://i.imgur.com/2lXngDp.jpg09:34
siceloi haven't had a windows installation (except a vm) for a while, but i think i like that solution :-)09:35
KotCzarnyand if the file hash is already known, it wont upload at all, so works quite well09:35
KotCzarnyit can give some false positives, because use plethora of av scanners, but it's up to you to decide which ones are trustworthy09:36
MaxdamantusAnd false negatives.09:37
KotCzarnymaxd: sure, but isnt it the same with installed av?09:37
MaxdamantusYes.09:37
MaxdamantusSo the proper way is to restrict what the program can do.09:37
KotCzarnynot to mention it wont block the ones that download real threats09:37
Maxdamantushttps://www.virustotal.com/#/url/8e5ad140812edd53e5430ebeddb07a9f9643503bdfe1994896a03be3b4b21e0e/detection09:38
MaxdamantusHm .. so I guess none of those things actually try to run it.09:39
KotCzarnystilmight be also it only checks for domain karma09:40
Maxdamantus(that program is something I wrote ( https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/959967 ), which is completely harmless, but does involve intercepting all key presses)09:40
KotCzarnyalso remember that av has settable heuristics. and yeah, best would be to just provide what program can do09:41
KotCzarnyie. analyze functions used09:41
KotCzarnyand report that instead09:41
KotCzarnybut then again, you can obfuscate program with compression, internal encryption etc09:42
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MaxdamantusOh, if I go into the "Downloaded file" thing, it shows 4 things with exclamation marks next to them.09:45
xCA7BABE5hmmm09:46
xCA7BABE5https://www.virustotal.com/#/url/6169809e4909da9938cca76cf2de9fcf9b834ecff069ac9efb862d8b2b7870d7/detection09:48
xCA7BABE5lol09:48
xCA7BABE5I don't think pitting sourcecode against virustotal's url scanner means anything09:48
xCA7BABE5I have a feeling its intended purpose is site-scanning09:49
xCA7BABE5not convenient input-by-url09:49
KotCzarnyit might be some string from heuristics, hehe09:50
KotCzarnythat triggers some viree09:50
KotCzarnykinda similar to startkeylogger09:50
KotCzarny;)09:50
KotCzarnyit was fun few years ago when saying that on irc resulted in plenty of people getting disconnected by norton ;)09:51
xCA7BABE5I am amused by this scenario09:54
* xCA7BABE5 goes around spamming EICAR string on IRC10:06
xCA7BABE5Probably get my ass banned :P10:06
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xCA7BABE5https://www.virustotal.com/#/url/9ce06e3557a0785a6d49f56069a3c7416f5a0a1b5efd569183bf7a80add45fcd/detection10:13
KotCzarnythat's specific string unrelated to software10:15
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bencohhm, time to vote, or so it seems11:46
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siceloyes, it is :-)13:56
siceloubt at 23:59:59 UTC13:58
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DocScrutinizer51hola from Madrid16:34
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sixwheeledbeasthola doc16:43
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