IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2017-12-03

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WikiwideHighly annoyed. Insert memory card into N900, Bluetooth some files from it to laptop, battery goes down, "soft" shutdown with "Recharge battery" notification and LED pattern... After changing the battery and booting, fsck is going on, apparently delaying mounting of both MyDocs and memory card.07:41
WikiwideOr else it's just not noticing the memory card yet.07:43
WikiwideOne classical bug is how many things keyboard-related start working only after MyDocs is mounted.07:44
WikiwideHow does one shoot 1.23 GB video with 640x320 resolution onto 2GB memory card? Possible but takes patience.07:51
WikiwideTransferring it is slow, even over WiFi.07:53
WikiwideSftp is stalled despite presence of Internet.07:59
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buZzeh :)15:16
buZzits a removable memory card, why not remove it :P lol15:16
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MaemoButtshow do I go about changing file associations on the n900?18:54
MaemoButtsI'm mucking around in /usr/share/applications, but with little results18:55
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pkill9i think i saw /usr/share/applications/defaults.list , or /usr/share/applications/hildon/defaults.list (which i think was a symbolic link)19:06
pkill9MaemoButts: ^19:06
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MaemoButtsthe first19:25
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* MaemoButts waits19:42
DocScrutinizer05 might help19:43
DocScrutinizer05actually whole page
DocScrutinizer05there's also a command update-mimetypes or the like, which might need to run to update some cache or whatever. Please read the manpages etc, I have no clue19:48
DocScrutinizer05man update-mime-database19:50
MaemoButtsthis is going to be fun19:51
MaemoButtson an unrelated note, I don't think n900's keypad is well suited for gaming19:55
DocScrutinizer05N900 is no gaming console19:56
DocScrutinizer05get a N-Gage ;-P19:56
bencohit can be quite close to it though :>19:57
MaemoButtsnintendo ds19:57
bencohif only those rubber "gamepads" were still available19:57
MaemoButtsI am having pisspoor reaction speed in boulderdash style game19:58
bencohwait, what?19:59
MaemoButtsrocks n diamonds for n90020:00
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pkill9yeah n900 keyboard is no good for gaming20:36
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DocScrutinizer05it never been meant for that20:59
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Vajband i couldn't make my game pad to work with it either :/21:06
Vajbor well it is actually problem with the emulator21:07
* Maxdamantus has been able to play PS1 games on it using a PS3 controller (Bluetooth)21:10
Vajbi think problem is that the emulator i wanted to play with gets input by othermeans than x window21:11
Vajbi can type in terminal and also in few apps with my current settings21:12
Vajbi mean type as with gamepad buttons21:12
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MaxdamantusAre you sure the input you generate for the emulator is not going to another window? (because of the WM_HINTS issue)21:22
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Vajbpretty certain. It creates three windows while rom is running and either of those works. I tried all21:29
KotCzarnyone thing to try would be sending keystrokes to those windows via xdo or similar app21:29
KotCzarnyto see if it reacts to x events21:29
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KotCzarnybtw. you also heave vcc/gnd header near uart21:31
KotCzarnyyou can check with multimeter what voltage it is21:31
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: lsof is your friend21:35
DocScrutinizer05if it's a game it likely will interface to /dev/input/*whatever* directly21:36
Vajbi got controller as js0. I can map it to key presses via joy2key, but problem is that not all programs see it21:37
Vajb/dev/input/js0 to be precise21:39
KotCzarnyquite nice tutorial21:40
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Vajbthat's what i used as a base ;)21:43
KotCzarnywhats weird is it works fine when using -rawconsole or -terminal21:45
KotCzarnybut not when using -X21:45
KotCzarnyyou might play with those options too21:45
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KotCzarnybut, the most important clue is that you can run it with -X switch (which should work)21:47
KotCzarnyand -rawconsole is for apps that dont use x for key input21:47
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Wikiwidefirefox from a Cent OS was hyperslow on N900 when run over ssh -X . Maybe, just a troublesome site?21:49
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KotCzarnyWikiwide: uh, oh, over wifi?21:51
KotCzarnyyou should try any accelerator for x protocol, or un vnc server in that centos and vnc client on n90021:52
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KotCzarnyit's much more bandwidth/cpu effective21:52
DocScrutinizer05run a game over ssh? wut?21:56
WikiwideWhat game? firefox, web browser21:57
DocScrutinizer05what else would Vajb need controllers for?21:57
WikiwideAh, lol.21:58
Vajbto play snes games on a go21:58
Vajblike in a buss21:58
WikiwideFor the record, I intend to use Pyra as tiny laptop, not for games.21:58
DocScrutinizer05how does pyra come in here?21:59
Vajbbut im starting to lean on a side of just playing home21:59
DocScrutinizer05apropos, are they shipping?21:59
pkill9what makes the pyra worth atleast 600 Euros?22:00
Vajbi feel like my problem is related to that keyboardfocus thing which bugged bluemaemo program aswell22:02
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WikiwideJust mentioning that gaming hardware might be useful for something other than games.22:10
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WikiwidePyra has resistive touchscreen, high-resolution display, hardware keyboard, fast CPU, maybe two batteries (don't remember exactly), maybe stylus... CPU+RAM are in replaceable module for upgradeability?22:15
WikiwideTwo slots for memory cards.22:15
WikiwideIt's like Neo900 in many things, just larger, less sensors, using more power (for LCD, CPU, and the like).22:16
bencohand much heavier22:19
KotCzarnyvajb: i have no bt joystick here, that's why i'm a bit unhelpful22:21
KotCzarnyotherwise i would just hack it here22:21
DocScrutinizer05well, I wouldn't hold my breath regarding CPU upgrades for Pyra22:22
DocScrutinizer05the CPU module been chosen for other reasons -primarily there was no OMAP5 bare bones chip available when they started development of pyra22:23
DocScrutinizer05TI thought only certified partners could successfully solder OMAP5 SoC, with the help of TI field engineers and much support by TI22:24
DocScrutinizer05so for a while it wasn't clear if small projects like Pyra could _ever_ get OMAP5 SoC22:25
DocScrutinizer05modules made by TI partners were announced to become available though22:26
DocScrutinizer05then, you also get a better yield in production when a single failed solder joint only turns 50% of your electronics in the device into a paperweight. Plus a smaller CPU PCB is simpler to reflow-solder than a "huge" all-in-one PCB22:29
DocScrutinizer05so yes, CPU+RAM module is fine for "repair" but don't hope for any significant upgrade to appear that has same interface and formfactor22:31
DocScrutinizer05mind you, OMAP5 is a dead end anyway. TI won't make any OMAP6 ever, they wrapped up their embedded segment afaik22:32
DocScrutinizer05which is a pity since now we are restricted to allwinner and snapdragon and shite, that all comes with severe issues either regarding open documentation or availability22:33
KotCzarnyhehe, allwinner isnt that bad, but it's far from good battery time or performance22:34
KotCzarnystill i suspect because it's all in one solution, prototyping could be speedy22:35
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