| TheKit | with 2x it will be 1080x540 | 00:00 |
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| Vajb | ok will do tomorrow or somewhere around the weekend. Now i better sleep | 00:00 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 00:00 |
| Wizzup | TheKit: ack | 00:02 |
| Wizzup | TheKit: don't think I'll get the device any time soon, but we can just as well test on hdmi on the droid4 | 00:02 |
| * Wizzup zzz :) | 00:03 | |
| Wizzup | or just on intel I guess. | 00:03 |
| TheKit | not sure what to do about 3D accel about Droid 4 | 00:03 |
| TheKit | getting PowerVR is a pain, I can have some kind of accel with libhybris, but that requires ancient kernel and Android OpenGL ES 2 driver on Droid 4 is pretty nasty compared to newer devices... | 00:04 |
| Wizzup | *nod* | 00:04 |
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| CatButts | I suppose one disadvantage of magnetic usb connectors is attracting dirt that contains iron :P | 00:27 |
| CatButts | but that depends on the environments you take your phone in | 00:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | U recall a few reports that attested crappy quality of all those magnetic USB thingies | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I* | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway if you get one, please report | 01:01 |
| vectis3 | I have been using a magnetic usb charger cable for about 6 months now. Not had any issues so far. | 01:12 |
| vectis3 | On my N900, that is. | 01:14 |
| pkill9 | vectis3: does it charge from the mains properly? and does it properly transfer data to/from PC, etc properly? | 01:16 |
| CatButts | how about flashing phone | 01:18 |
| vectis3 | I've had no problems charging from the mains. I have used it to load rescueOS. | 01:19 |
| vectis3 | I loaded rescueOS onto it from my laptop, but that is the only attempt at transfering data with it. | 01:25 |
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| pkill9-mobile | test | 02:10 |
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| Vajb | ok. Stuck with joy2key so i tried somehing else. As i told earlier I noticed that /dev/input/keypad is ln -s to dev/input/event1 and that when js0 appears even4 gets created. So i ln -s js0 to event4, but that is still missing something | 09:13 |
| Vajb | guess i need something to listen to event4 and passing that to keypad presses, but no idea where to look at | 09:15 |
| Vajb | in joy2key the problem is that it can't find the window to direct keypresses to -X doesn't work as an argument and anything else i tried wont work either. | 09:16 |
| KotCzarny | ho hum. you might try wmctrl to list the windows then pass the proper window to j2k | 09:17 |
| KotCzarny | there is also --scancodes option which might be doing something low level | 09:18 |
| Vajb | drnoksnes says it is wm class drnoksnes_startup, but j2k doesn't seem to accept anything but plain -X as window argument | 09:18 |
| KotCzarny | what does wmctrl -l says? | 09:20 |
| Vajb | wait me to install it first | 09:21 |
| Vajb | hildon-status-menu, desktop, lots of hildon-home, 6 times sticky notes widget, 9 times kuvat (pictures in english) and three time x terminal | 09:24 |
| KotCzarny | i meant with that emu running | 09:24 |
| Vajb | DrNokSnes | 09:24 |
| KotCzarny | try to copy paste it into j2k param | 09:25 |
| KotCzarny | keep in mind it might need to be the first param | 09:25 |
| Vajb | u mean while line? | 09:25 |
| Vajb | whole* | 09:25 |
| KotCzarny | no, just Dr.. | 09:25 |
| Vajb | k | 09:25 |
| KotCzarny | but case might matter | 09:25 |
| Vajb | but there is minor problem. I can't launch wmctrl -l when actual game is running coz it gets killed when ever i unfocus it | 09:26 |
| KotCzarny | use ssh? | 09:26 |
| Maxdamantus | `ln -s js0 event4` probably isn't useful. | 09:27 |
| KotCzarny | for now i would like to just try to make it work | 09:27 |
| Vajb | bah :) | 09:27 |
| Maxdamantus | js* and event* use different protocols. | 09:27 |
| KotCzarny | it could be made into script later | 09:27 |
| Maxdamantus | event* is a stream of `struct input_event`s .. js* is something else. | 09:27 |
| Vajb | ok i'll try and report back. Now im on my way so can't make any ssh stuff | 09:28 |
| Vajb | should i try -X Dr.... or -Dr...? | 09:28 |
| Vajb | or even X_Dr | 09:29 |
| KotCzarny | just joy2key "DrNokSnes" -someparams | 09:29 |
| Maxdamantus | js* is a stream of `struct js_event`s. | 09:29 |
| Maxdamantus | So unless some program figures out (by resolving the link, or figuring out the major/minor numbers of the open fd), it's just going to be interpreting nonsense if it opens a "js*" device when expecting an "event*" device or vice-versa. | 09:30 |
| Vajb | Maxdamantus: i just tried to copy what somethign which works, does :) | 09:31 |
| Maxdamantus | If you're not getting a "js*" device, it'll be because there's nothing in the kernel to create a js device from the input device. | 09:32 |
| Vajb | btw isn't gamepad with buttons kinda event device? | 09:32 |
| KotCzarny | yes, but js events | 09:32 |
| Maxdamantus | Yes, that's why there's usually an event device created as well as a js device. | 09:32 |
| Vajb | hmm so i might be missing something from the kernel too? | 09:32 |
| Maxdamantus | Different applications can interpret the data from different devices. | 09:33 |
| Vajb | when i connect that gamepad it creates js0 and event4 and when i do cat js0 i got jibberish when i press buttons so it works in some level | 09:35 |
| Maxdamantus | Okay. If you want a similar thing without jibberish, I suspect `jstest` should be in the maemo repositories .. I think it's part of some SDL package. | 09:36 |
| Maxdamantus | Hm, maybe not. | 09:37 |
| Vajb | yeah i have it. Failed to make it work and forgot it :D | 09:37 |
| Vajb | it is package joystick | 09:38 |
| Vajb | and it works with command jstest | 09:38 |
| Maxdamantus | Okay, guess my package lists are probably out of date. | 09:38 |
| Vajb | i installed and tried to figure how to fire it up, but i was already lost when i typed joy and hit tab | 09:38 |
| Maxdamantus | jstest /dev/input/js0 | 09:39 |
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| Maxdamantus | and it should just keep printing the state of the joystick to stdout. | 09:39 |
| Vajb | yes i know now :) | 09:39 |
| Vajb | but on my way to school so wont be able to test yet | 09:40 |
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| Vajb | will report back in an 6 hours or so | 09:40 |
| Vajb | would be neat to make this work to prevent me of doing something usefull ;) | 09:41 |
| KotCzarny | hehe | 09:43 |
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| Vajb | oh now that i remember. Maemo pdf readers, which i've used, lack one key feature. They don't remember the page were reading | 09:51 |
| Vajb | i kinda like the way iPod does that | 09:52 |
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| Wikiwide | Bootup reason: 32wd_to . Why did this unexpected reboot occur? What was the problem encountered by watchdog? | 10:32 |
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| Wikiwide | Why did C FM radio parrot back sounds it heard in microphone, instead of providing radio? Is it because of the headphones having a microphone? | 10:55 |
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| * CatButts patiently waits for CSSU Testing to become installable again | 12:26 | |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Why is it not installable? | 12:38 |
| CatButts | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2017-11-30.log.html#t2017-11-30T23:24:37-2 | 12:39 |
| CatButts | probably starting from here | 12:39 |
| CatButts | it tells me that cssu enabler is not found | 12:39 |
| CatButts | when using one-click install | 12:39 |
| m14ed | There is life on this channel ? | 12:40 |
| KotCzarny | define life | 12:40 |
| CatButts | meow | 12:41 |
| m14ed | I pass on that | 12:41 |
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| m14ed | define life that is | 12:41 |
| CatButts | you should try ##symbian m14ed :P | 12:41 |
| CatButts | sorry, I mean #symbian | 12:42 |
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| CatButts | damned freenode and its double hash fetish | 12:42 |
| m14ed | double hash does make sense to old men | 12:43 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I was aware of issues with thumb and curl but not that. Was the update tested before release like it normally is? | 12:44 |
| CatButts | I tested it :P | 12:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | like a couple of people install it from an alternative repo before it's officially released to iron out problems? | 12:46 |
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| Vajb | is curl issue still waiting for me to try to update first curla and then cssu? | 14:45 |
| Vajb | curl* | 14:45 |
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| Vajb | ok it seems that jstest gives me sensible data | 15:19 |
| Vajb | now i have button values to fill reasonable to j2k | 15:19 |
| Wizzup | Vajb: re: curl, try it, and let me know :) | 15:23 |
| Vajb | haha ;) | 15:24 |
| Vajb | ok and j2k still fails with "error cant find window to send events to" | 15:24 |
| KotCzarny | vajb: even with adding window param? | 15:29 |
| Vajb | yes | 15:29 |
| KotCzarny | weird | 15:29 |
| Vajb | actually there r four new things with drnoksnes running rom | 15:30 |
| KotCzarny | you might also try su - user before | 15:30 |
| Vajb | nokia-n900 drnoksnes | 15:30 |
| Vajb | then n/a drnoksnes - pinball dreams < twice | 15:30 |
| Vajb | and n/a sd1_haa window | 15:31 |
| Vajb | i am starting to think that i wont be solving this | 15:39 |
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| KotCzarny | ho hum. n900 doesnt support wifi-n | 15:54 |
| KotCzarny | bummer. | 15:54 |
| drathir | bg i guess its normal for that time, and rare the power of device... | 15:59 |
| KotCzarny | The IEEE has approved the amendment, and it was published in October 2009 | 16:00 |
| KotCzarny | missed by a year, eh | 16:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, since latest CSSU-T I have audio dropout (reproducible, identical) during charger-plugin-swoosh | 16:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not that this was a big issue by itself, but it points to a more generic problem | 16:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | recaler totally roins audio since quite some time already. I wonder if something re PolypAudio changed that's causing all this | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | recaller totally ruins* | 16:42 |
| Vajb | \o/ i got it to register keypresses! | 16:45 |
| Vajb | installing x11-utils was the key | 16:46 |
| Vajb | now it works via hexid of the window | 16:46 |
| Vajb | now remains to be solved, how to figure out which is the spawning window id when i start rom... | 16:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | huh? | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | KotCzarny: even today _many_ devices have no 5GHz WLAN, only 2.4GHz | 16:58 |
| Vajb | DocScrutinizer05: i've been playing with gamepad settings on n900... | 16:59 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: 2.4Ghz should be considered dead, though. | 17:05 |
| CatButts | why | 17:05 |
| teotwaki | Too much interference to get any kind of decent bandwidth. | 17:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: dead? nah, overcrowded | 17:05 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: That's what I meant | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm pretty happy with everybody and their dog and cat going 2.4, the less mess on 5 | 17:07 |
| CatButts | meow | 17:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for your convenience (CSSU-T12): gconftool -s /apps/osso/status-area-applet-battery/show_charge_charging -t bool true | 17:09 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: that's the whole point of 5, though. Everyone can use it like crazy, but the shorter spread means you're not as affected. | 17:17 |
| KotCzarny | the problem is not bandwidth, but human stupidity | 17:19 |
| KotCzarny | make something free, get it thrashed | 17:19 |
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| pkill9 | hmm i'd like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZc5gUKcRZA | 18:39 |
| pkill9 | using orange pi instead of raspberry pi for extra power | 18:39 |
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| Wikiwide | Tired. | 19:01 |
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| CatButts | does TV out on the n900 activate automagically when plugged in? | 19:37 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 19:37 |
| KotCzarny | in clone mode | 19:37 |
| CatButts | then my cable is less than automagic | 19:37 |
| CatButts | I solder doohickey | 19:38 |
| KotCzarny | see pinout | 19:38 |
| CatButts | http://pinouts.ru/visual/gen/nokia_n95_tvout.jpg | 19:38 |
| KotCzarny | seems ok | 19:38 |
| KotCzarny | check for continuity | 19:38 |
| KotCzarny | also if you dont have any shorts | 19:39 |
| CatButts | seems ok | 19:41 |
| CatButts | better put on some shorts :P | 19:41 |
| KotCzarny | btw. orange pi uses same av cable pinout | 19:43 |
| CatButts | does any symbol appear when TV-out is engaged? | 19:54 |
| KotCzarny | dont remember, let me check | 19:55 |
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| KotCzarny | no symbol, but if you click on systray area (clock) it will have tv item | 19:59 |
| KotCzarny | and will say 'tv enabled' | 20:00 |
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| KotCzarny | but it will only show when you plug the yellow cable somewhere | 20:02 |
| CatButts | can I plug only yellow cable? | 20:03 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 20:03 |
| CatButts | I'll short it to see what happan | 20:03 |
| KotCzarny | it was enough to plug the yellow one in the usb grabber, doesnt have to be plugged to pc | 20:03 |
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| CatButts | shorting yellow cable gives me headset symbol | 20:05 |
| KotCzarny | plug it into some grabber card? | 20:06 |
| CatButts | plugged it into TV | 20:06 |
| CatButts | nada on AV | 20:06 |
| pkill9 | CatButts: you need to plug the TV out cable into TV first, then plug into n900 | 20:07 |
| CatButts | did as well | 20:07 |
| pkill9 | ok | 20:07 |
| pkill9 | just checking :P | 20:07 |
| CatButts | oh wait | 20:19 |
| CatButts | TV says | 20:19 |
| CatButts | Video | L Audio R | 20:19 |
| CatButts | OUT | 20:19 |
| CatButts | not IN | 20:19 |
| CatButts | fun | 20:19 |
| KotCzarny | you suck? ;) | 20:19 |
| KotCzarny | pray you didnt fry anything | 20:19 |
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| * CatButts covers his willy in tin foil and sticks it in the mains outlet | 20:21 | |
| kalin | hi all :) | 20:21 |
| CatButts | uh, hello | 20:21 |
| kalin | did someone help me to install boot menu on my N900 pr1.3 | 20:22 |
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| CatButts | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP7P6g2VwAAoEG1.jpg:orig unrelated | 20:35 |
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| kalin | i have installed boot menu | 21:21 |
| kalin | but i have no option to boot from sd card | 21:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | let me put it this way: noot menu doesn't create options, it provides the options you configured | 21:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | boot menu* | 21:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also actually boot menu isn't to select different boot systems. You use uBoot for that | 21:35 |
| CatButts | does uBoot make BootMenu redundant? | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alas uBoot comes with a wizard that creates uBoot boot entries from bootmenu file tree structure entries, which makes uBoot look like it was related to bootmenu, which it absolutely isn't | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | CatButts: no, botmenu is *after* kernel booted, just vefore "init" starts | 21:38 |
| kalin | i installed Fanoush BootMenu | 21:39 |
| CatButts | I mean, if you have uBoot, would you even need BootMenu? | 21:39 |
| kalin | uBoot does'nt rise in app manager | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so bootmenu is pretty much the first regular program that runs *after* boot, while uBoot is a boot manager running to load kernel | 21:40 |
| kalin | so what i can do to boot from sd card? | 21:41 |
| pkill9 | bootmenu is the thing that backs up your rootfs + optfs right? | 21:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | basically yes. bootmenu starts backupmenu | 21:45 |
| pkill9 | uboot lets you load different kernels, whereas bootmenu is kinda attached to the main kernel | 21:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kalin: learn how to create a uBoot entry pointing to your kernel and rootgs on uSD | 21:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | roofs even | 21:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh | 21:46 |
| CatButts | card must be formated in ext2/3 yes? | 21:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nfc | 21:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd think yes | 21:47 |
| kalin | DocScrutinizer05, i have no uBoot in app manager | 21:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | at least one of the partitions | 21:48 |
| pkill9 | if you have correct version of uboot, it can be formatted to ext4 | 21:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kalin: you probably won't install uBoot from app manager | 21:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~uboot | 21:49 |
| infobot | N900 uBoot is a siamese twin binary [uBoot+stockMaemoKernel] that resides in kernel NAND partition /dev/mtd3 aka "kernel". You can't uninstall it, rather you'll nuke it when you flash/install another kernel like stock maemo kernel or powerkernel. To start other than stock maemo kernel via uBoot, you have to provide the according kernel image files, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 | 21:49 |
| CatButts | I like siamese | 21:49 |
| kalin | ok | 21:50 |
| kalin | did someone booted ubuntu mobile or arc linux from sd? | 21:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm pretty sure, yes | 21:51 |
| CatButts | drivers are probably main caveat | 21:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, sure | 21:51 |
| kalin | now i put kubuntu image with dd to sd card | 21:51 |
| kalin | but never try this | 21:52 |
| pkill9 | yeah i have kalin | 22:01 |
| pkill9 | i documented all the issues i encountered | 22:01 |
| pkill9 | if you're interested kalin https://github.com/pkillnine/n900-ALarm/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed | 22:02 |
| pkill9 | i don't use it tho, i switched back to CSSU maemo | 22:03 |
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| ilew | DocScrutinizer51: ping | 22:43 |
| ilew | merlin1991: ping | 22:45 |
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| ilew | Are you able to update the file: 'http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/community-testing-fremantle.install' and change the package line to 'package = community-ssu-enabler-testing'? doing that will fix the problem CatButts' is having. | 22:49 |
| CatButts | ilew: pong | 22:50 |
| CatButts | I'll give that a spin | 22:51 |
| ilew | CatButts: Cheers | 22:52 |
| Maxdamantus | It's probably not going to just work putting a kubuntu image on the SD card. | 22:53 |
| Maxdamantus | You'd probably need to continue using your own kernel/modules, where you'd boot the system to the point where you can chroot/pivot_root and execv the desired init. | 22:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ilew: I'm not in the position to do this. Plase ask merlin1991 | 22:58 |
| ilew | Wizzup: Vajb: Just tested on my dev device, running "apt-get install curl" will fix the dependency and allow you to do the CSSU update. | 22:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or, in emergency, ask techstaff aka warfare, xes | 22:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ilew: anyway, you should evaluate who's *responsible* for that domain | 23:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd assume resp edu-guess from URL that it's merlin1991 | 23:01 |
| ilew | DocScrutinizer05: I don't think being unable to install CSSU testing to be an emergency. So I'll just send merlin1991 an email. | 23:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ilew: who prepared and published T12? | 23:03 |
| ilew | DocScrutinizer05: I prepared and pushed it, but merlin1991 ran the import process because I don't have access to the box. | 23:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I see | 23:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so it's basically you who's responsible | 23:05 |
| ilew | Yes, but no permission to do anything about it. | 23:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | should fix that | 23:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems there's an organizational issue | 23:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: ping | 23:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: are you aware of what's going on with responsibility for repo VM? | 23:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: should ilew have access to that VM? | 23:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ilew: isn' | 23:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | t that a topic for #maemo-ssu? | 23:09 |
| ilew | DocScrutinizer05: People were reporting problems with CSSU updates/installs here, so I thought I'd mention it here just so people can see someone is working on it. | 23:11 |
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| CatButts | ilew: it worked | 23:12 |
| ilew | CatButts: Great, enjoy the new update and thanks for confirming the fix. | 23:15 |
| pkill9 | i really need to setup maemo SDK | 23:16 |
| KotCzarny | just grab vm image of the sdk? | 23:17 |
| pkill9 | hmm yeah i will, i thought it would be a lot slower | 23:20 |
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| KotCzarny | if you knew how and what, simple chroot fits in ~300MB | 23:22 |
| KotCzarny | i have pasted the link somewhere in t.m.o | 23:23 |
| pkill9 | i got scratchbox and ran the run_this_frst.sh and sbox_adduser.sh scripts | 23:25 |
| CatButts | is the battery indicator fix suppose to be turned on manually or does it come automagically with update? | 23:25 |
| pkill9 | but i didn't move it to a suitable directory, it's just in my downloads directory | 23:25 |
| pkill9 | i dunno if it registered that as the location somewhere | 23:25 |
| pkill9 | what's the battery indicator fix CatButts? | 23:26 |
| CatButts | >When charging, reflect charge status in icon (e.g. battery half full: only upper half of icon animated); | 23:27 |
| CatButts | oh yeah, needs manual enable | 23:27 |
| CatButts | oh, the AV cable is working fine, I was just putting it in the wrong holes :P | 23:36 |
| pkill9 | oh yeah that bothers me lol | 23:37 |
| CatButts | what's a gconf? | 23:37 |
| pkill9 | gnome's config system i think | 23:38 |
| CatButts | >Can be enabled/disabled with gconf key /apps/osso/status-area-applet-battery/show_charge_charging | 23:39 |
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| Wizzup | ilew: OK, will try that now | 23:59 |
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