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| CatButts | easy debian isn't all that bad | 00:22 |
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| CatButts | a tad bit slow :P | 00:22 |
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| Oksanaa | X depends on Y. I do 'apt-get purge Y'. Does it remove or purge X? | 02:53 |
| RST38h | it does not | 02:54 |
| RST38h | do autoremove afterwards | 02:56 |
| Oksanaa | Is there an autopurge? | 02:58 |
| Oksanaa | Ah, no, you misread the question. | 02:58 |
| Oksanaa | It's X depending on Y, not Y depending on X. | 02:58 |
| Oksanaa | But still, would 'apt-get autopurge' or 'apt-get autoremove --purge' work? | 02:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | never NEVER do autoremove | 05:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~fapman | 05:26 |
| infobot | rumour has it, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam | 05:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~hamvsfam | 05:27 |
| infobot | well, hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 | 05:27 |
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| CatButts | hmmmm | 07:38 |
| CatButts | what's the standby time of a nokia n900? | 07:40 |
| CatButts | I think my battery is whack | 07:40 |
| KotCzarny | install battery-eye | 07:40 |
| KotCzarny | normal power draw should be 8-10mA | 07:41 |
| KotCzarny | if its higher, you have something wrong with your device | 07:41 |
| KotCzarny | statistics will show after a week or two, so keep that in mind | 07:41 |
| KotCzarny | but you can still estimate how much it draws from the slope of the plot | 07:42 |
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| KotCzarny | oksanaa: yes, autoremove --purge does its job | 07:43 |
| KotCzarny | but you have to watch out, on maemo autoremove might bootloop your device | 07:59 |
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| CatButts | >Unfortunately Maemo has a very snappish watchdog that reboots your phone if it thinks it hangs due to a runaway process. | 09:11 |
| CatButts | well, that explains why it chokes on lzma with large files | 09:12 |
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| Maxdamantus | It's not *that* snappish. | 09:24 |
| Maxdamantus | The reason it would cause it with lzma is mostly likely that lzma is using too much memory. | 09:24 |
| Maxdamantus | so everything is in swap. | 09:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | autoremove *WILL* wreck your system, even when you don't get bootloop right away. Subtle dysfunctions detected after weeks or months are even worse than bootloop | 11:29 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | a battery monitor would use a little extra battery power while your using it too. | 11:55 |
| KotCzarny | swb: from my observations it only gather data at user activity points anyway | 11:56 |
| KotCzarny | ie. enabling/disabling screen, charger connect/disconnect etc | 11:56 |
| KotCzarny | *gathers | 11:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | one of the battery monitoring apps was rather a battery capacity tester doing fast discharge | 12:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that said, if the app gathers data only while visible or on activity points then it's absolutely fine. I also dodn't see any negative effects from a `bq27200.sh 30` loop, nota bene as long as displaying to a xterm, untested are effects of redirecting output to a file | 12:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and for the generic question of standby time I think I've seen before: the device stays up a 10 days in locked mode without wlan and SIM | 12:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on WLAN with ssh session and GSM in standby, my device still does several days, mayve 3 maybe 7, not tested it for long time | 12:26 |
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| CatButts | https://wiki.maemo.org/N9QTweak so many oportunities to tweak, so many to brick :P | 14:41 |
| CatButts | I just want to reduce UI element size | 14:42 |
| Vajb | easiest would be to just use binoculars backwards ;) | 14:43 |
| bencoh | CatButts: did you get a n9 as well? | 14:44 |
| CatButts | oh wait | 14:46 |
| CatButts | derp | 14:46 |
| CatButts | n9, not n900 | 14:47 |
| CatButts | I am really not paying attention today | 14:48 |
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| CatButts | I am liking the chroot linux thing on the n900 | 15:48 |
| CatButts | what would it take to roll own linux image? | 15:48 |
| CatButts | and how far can I get | 15:48 |
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| freemangordon | CatButts: there is already devuan n900 image | 16:06 |
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