| opt1mus | I think quite a few nonfunctioning USB ports on N900s disagree, to each their own | 00:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and finally, razher than filing away the latches, you can simply push them inwards slightly with your fingernails, to make them a tad softer | 00:01 |
| opt1mus | hmm, perhaps bending them if that's possible would be favorable | 00:01 |
| opt1mus | if they can be made to remain less proud | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I used ~40 N900 and had no issues with ISB on a single one of them | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | USB* | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I seen a dozen times how users abused their devices while unplugging USB | 00:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as a general rule, never use both hands for unplugging, correct unplugging is done with two fingers of one hand basically | 00:04 |
| opt1mus | I baby mine, so it's never parted company from the board, so perhaps I'll never find out personally how much force is required to do so | 00:04 |
| opt1mus | maybe I've just been unlucky in having microUSB cables that've had overprominent prongs on them | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | some are a bitch initially, yes. Pencil and a 10 minutes of prying out the plug with fingernail and then remating it fix this | 00:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can easily do 20 to 30 partial (1 - 2mm) unplug+replug cycles per minute | 00:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | use a soft pencil (HB, B...) to 'lubricate' the exterior of the plug a bit | 00:13 |
| opt1mus | interesting technique, it's not like I use a wood rasp on it though | 00:14 |
| opt1mus | ;} | 00:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but the most important thing is to learn how to correctly unplug: grab the plug on *small* sides with your thumb and digit finger so close to the case that you can "roll" your fingertips against the case to pry out the plug | 00:15 |
| opt1mus | indeed | 00:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alternatively insert fingernail between plug and case and pry out plug with your nail | 00:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | again bysupporting the finger(nail) against the case | 00:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | NEVER hold case with one hand and _pull_ the plug with the other hand, creating all the force out of your elbows | 00:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or shoulders rather | 00:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you must be avle to unplug using one hand only, while the device sints on a pillow or other soft surface and doesn't get pushed into it | 00:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you must be able to unplug using one hand only, while the device sits on a pillow or other soft surface and doesn't get pushed into it | 00:22 |
| opt1mus | is this pillow made from silk, or Egyptian cotton? | 00:25 |
| opt1mus | I jest... | 00:25 |
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| pkill9 | is it normal that when usb is plugged in, it kinda wobbles side to side? | 02:01 |
| pkill9 | does that mean my usb port is gonna break? | 02:01 |
| opt1mus | there'll be a very small amount of movement, but fractions of a millimeter | 02:05 |
| opt1mus | but if it's mm of movement then I'd very careful | 02:05 |
| opt1mus | I'd be careful either way | 02:06 |
| opt1mus | if there was literally zero play at all; I'd be concerned | 02:07 |
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| brolin_empey | opt1mus: All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy? | 07:17 |
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| Wikiwide | Under what conditions does Camera app duplicate itself, freeze (to the point that Ctrl+Backspace command shows image being cropped, instead of resized, in camera's viewfinder), and generally become unresponsive? | 11:01 |
| Wikiwide | I experienced it today after changing battery. I haven't encountered this problem in a while. It was made worse by general slowness of response of software. | 11:02 |
| Maxdamantus | Wikiwide: ime it gets worse with a larger DCIM directory. | 11:15 |
| Maxdamantus | but I think it can happen regardless. | 11:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Wikiwide: I *think* this is related to an unknown bug in DSP. IIRC Pali or freemangordon know more details | 12:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I witnessed similar symptoms especially while shooting movies | 12:36 |
| Wikiwide | Yes, I was trying to shoot a movie when this happened. And my DCIM directory is quite large, with a "never delete, unless this image is boring _and_ was already emailed somewhen" policy | 13:00 |
| Maxdamantus | I suspect moving things out of the DCIM directory would have a massive improvement. | 13:06 |
| Wikiwide | Hmm, so it's not a tracker issue, it may be a strictly DCIM issue? | 13:07 |
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| * Maxdamantus wrote a small script that moves things into separate directories based on month. | 13:07 | |
| Maxdamantus | Dunno if tracker contributes to it, but I don't use tracker and I remember having that issue pretty badly until I cleaned out DCIM. | 13:08 |
| Maxdamantus | (and by "cleaned out", I just mean moving the files to another directory) | 13:10 |
| Maxdamantus | Presumably so camera-ui doesn't have to scan over them or something, dunno. | 13:10 |
| Maxdamantus | as for viewing the images again, I use QImageViewer from the repository, which seems to be a lot nicer at dealing with changing directories than the normal "Photos" application. | 13:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | it might be tracker as well. I'm not sure. But a scenario of swap hell is plausible, when the camera process allocates buffers for the data pending to get written, and the system swaps out stuff to make space for those buffers, but the buffers can only get flushed when the storage bandwidth isn't hogged by the swap process anymore --> deadlock | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is a quite common scenario when a process constantly tries to write data at a rate not available from the system in current state. Swap kicks in and aggravates the situation | 13:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a system may run for hours at a IO write rate close to the bandwith limit, and occasionally one other process add a tiny additional load to IO and that makes the whole system going over the top | 13:44 |
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| pkill9 | is anyone else unable to rotate the screen using xrandr in an alternate distro? | 18:01 |
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| sunshavi | Hi on my n900 sms messages just get showed after restart. Seems the service (daemon) rtcom-messaging (whatever) is not running. Any idea how to start the service? | 19:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | starting manually won't solve any problems | 19:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | there's a reason (called "problem") why any service isn't running though it usually should | 19:58 |
| sunshavi | mmm. this package seems close sourced. So no any pkg for reinstalling it | 19:58 |
| sunshavi | flashing my only option? | 19:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | given the root cause of the problem is completely unclear, yes | 19:58 |
| sunshavi | thanks Docscrutinizer05 | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though I'd recommend a few other approaches first | 19:59 |
| sunshavi | i am all ears | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's not unheard of that weird SMS content made services segfault | 19:59 |
| sunshavi | btw i have 2 n900s | 19:59 |
| sunshavi | rtcom-messaging-ui dissapeared from the phone root partition | 20:00 |
| sunshavi | i have cp'd files from the second n900 | 20:00 |
| sunshavi | this rt-messaging-ui is web based. would be nice a gtk one | 20:01 |
| sunshavi | those messages that r not showed (they are stored on my phone) (or the cellular provider has them stored)? | 20:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also a "ls -l /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db" might be worth it | 20:02 |
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| sunshavi | database is present but not updated | 20:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | delete it | 20:04 |
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| sunshavi | done | 20:05 |
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| sunshavi | should i restart or send an sms to the phone from another phone? | 20:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | el-v1.db gets restored pristine during next boot | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/17050890 | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ^^^ for reference | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so reboot, then send test SMS | 20:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess /home/user/.rtcom-messaging-ui/draft.db might be the template for el-v1.db | 20:11 |
| sunshavi | i do not have locate installed. should i install it? | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, a find / -name '*rtcom-messaging-ui*' -ls will do | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | will take ages though | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and actually it doesn't provide much relevant info to you that is not already in http://paste.opensuse.org/17050890 | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~pkg | 20:14 |
| infobot | i guess pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ | 20:14 |
| sunshavi | http://termbin.com/18sq | 20:17 |
| sunshavi | going to restart the phone | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/42629188 | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you got /usr/bin/rtcom-messaging-ui and /usr/bin/rtcom-messaging-ui.launch | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this looks suspicious: /home/user/MyDocs/downloads/rtcom-messaging-ui.tgz | 20:19 |
| sunshavi | that is the one i brought from my other n900 phone | 20:21 |
| sunshavi | http://termbin.com/wmlh | 20:21 |
| sunshavi | do you have the deb pkg? | 20:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's in repo | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems sth messed up your system thoroughly, though | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no idea how it can be "not installed" on your N900 | 20:23 |
| sunshavi | mmm. the repo urls are in /etc/...? | 20:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the repo urls are in HAM | 20:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrrepos | 20:24 |
| infobot | jrrepos is, like, http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ | 20:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you're not, by any mishap, using fapman? | 20:31 |
| * CatButts perks ears | 20:31 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ...or decided to answer "yes" when apt.get suggested to uninstall a 23 dozen packages? | 20:32 |
| sunshavi | probably yes, my root partition was full | 20:32 |
| sunshavi | this n900 has a broken screen | 20:33 |
| sunshavi | looking for the command for opening an url from cli on my notes | 20:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm ouch. Than won't help since HAM will ask you to nod off, after you clicked the URL | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Taht* | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh | 20:34 |
| sunshavi | found it | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~fapman | 20:36 |
| infobot | i guess fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam | 20:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~hamvsfam | 20:36 |
| infobot | well, hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 | 20:36 |
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| sunshavi | thanks DocScrutinizer05 | 21:00 |
| sunshavi | i have another question. which is the file i should replace from command line for changing the selected ring tone? | 21:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sunshavi: that's a very tricy one | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | needs edits in at least 3 places | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sunshavi: what's wrong with your display? | 21:32 |
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| sicelo | says it's broken. maybe physically :-/ | 21:39 |
| sunshavi | not broken. But I can not extract one of the bolts | 21:40 |
| sicelo | ah | 21:40 |
| sunshavi | so removing the bolt not possible (what is the word one you can not remove the bolt cos the tool has not grip on the bolt?) | 21:41 |
| sunshavi | DocScrutinizer05: replacing the file in three places looks nice to me. as everything is going to be done with just one touch | 21:43 |
| sunshavi | and also for having custom sounds for the alarm. i could have a cron changing the sound before the alarm fires | 21:43 |
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