IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2017-08-12

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Mr_PinguIf anyone is interessed you can also change /etc/pmconfig for overclock00:35
Mr_Pinguor echo to to the various files /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/00:38
DocScrutinizer05FRIIIIDAAAAY!00:41
Mr_PinguVajb: If you manage to run and install devuan, I am interessed to hear your experiences :)00:50
Mr_PinguDocScrutinizer05: Don't want to spoil the party but it's almost saturday here :P00:51
DocScrutinizer05in my TZ it's Friday evening, no matter where I am00:52
DocScrutinizer05you could say it's UGT Friday00:53
DocScrutinizer05~ugt00:53
infobothmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html00:53
Mr_Pingufair enough00:56
MaxdamantusSat Aug 12 10:00:05 NZST 201701:00
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VajbMr_Pingu: my box is still building git clone :D 38h and im at 70% building deltas. So don't hold your breath at least yet.12:53
KotCzarnyvajb: told you to use --depth 112:55
KotCzarnyvajb: a lot fewer items to compare12:56
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VajbKotCzarny: well u did, but machine was already on it so :/13:45
KotCzarnystill, for funsies you can do it in another dir for comparison, once the current clone finishes13:46
Vajbbtw i set the limits "kernel-config limits 250 250", but conky shows that cpu is at 500Mhz13:46
Vajbi know it adds to that, but i thought first that it was lowest and highest frequency13:48
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VajbKotCzarny: maybe i give it a go. I think that around 48 hours it should finnish. I should have done it via ssh tho since process completely stalls my pc...13:49
KotCzarnywhat is the command?13:49
Vajblook wiki devuan on n90013:50
Vajbfirst command13:50
KotCzarnythis one?  git --work-tree=../linux-4.10.8 checkout linux-4.10.y -- .13:51
KotCzarnyahm no.13:51
KotCzarnythis? git clone https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git13:52
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KotCzarnyhttps://pastebin.com/raw/AvV73u1s13:54
KotCzarnytook whole 88s13:54
KotCzarny;)13:54
Vajbhaha13:55
Vajbthings surely have changed a bit13:55
KotCzarnylinux has a long history, and without --depth you are checking WHOLE history13:56
Vajbso u did it with ur hint setting?13:56
KotCzarnysee pastebin13:56
Vajbyes seems so13:57
Vajb170ish mb13:57
MaxdamantusSeems like it shouldn't take 38h though, unless you're running it on an N900 or something.13:59
KotCzarnyhe said 'pc'13:59
MaxdamantusYeah, I noticed.13:59
KotCzarnylets see what is the clone size with all history13:59
Vajbwell it is 1.3ghz athlon tb14:00
MaxdamantusIt should be 2 GB or so.14:00
Maxdamantusor maybe 314:00
Vajbso it is like two n900 connected hehe14:00
KotCzarnynah, x86 beats arm performance wise14:00
KotCzarnya lot14:00
KotCzarny6mln objects vs 64k objects14:01
KotCzarny100x more14:01
Vajbye14:02
KotCzarnyfor funsies i'm running full command too14:02
MaxdamantusThat doesn't mean it'll take 100x longer.14:02
KotCzarnymaxd: checking 6 mln files could take a while14:02
MaxdamantusIt shouldn't be checking 6 mln files.14:02
Vajbwell pc has time and i've planned that long time so im not in a rush14:02
MaxdamantusIt should be checking a couple of pack/idx files.14:02
KotCzarnyvajb: dont you have that shine new/old thinkpad?14:03
KotCzarny*shiny14:03
Vajbyup it's my daily machine with win 714:03
KotCzarnyrun virtualbox on it?14:03
Vajbthis is just my storage with new devuan os14:03
KotCzarnywith linux inside14:03
Maxdamantusand maybe a couple of hundred or so small objects that have been added since the last gc14:03
Vajbi was thinking of running live distro on it, but haven't got that far yet14:04
KotCzarnynah, just install normal linux in vbox14:05
Vajbwell this says it has received 1.24GiB14:05
KotCzarnyupgrade memory to the max and have some fun14:05
KotCzarnyi'm doing it on mine14:05
Vajbit has 8gb mem. Should be enough?14:05
KotCzarny2 gigs for win7, and 6 for jessie64 for my android builds14:06
KotCzarnyyeah, 8 is plenty14:06
KotCzarnyunless you start cloning vms like rabbits ;)14:06
Vajbcould u provide any recommend "virtualbox for dummies" link?14:06
KotCzarnyum, it's VERY simple app14:07
KotCzarnyreally, just download and install14:07
Vajbah so it is an app14:07
KotCzarnyyup, windows style app, clicky clicky14:07
KotCzarnyfun, that git command eats ~1GB of mem during deltas resolve14:10
KotCzarnymost likely your pc is swapping like hell14:10
MaxdamantusThat could explain it.14:12
KotCzarnyyay, took whole 12:45 minutes14:13
KotCzarnyhttps://pastebin.com/raw/4kS0hqng14:13
Vajbyes probably. It has like .7Gb of memory...14:14
KotCzarnyi've cheated a bit by doing it on tmpfs14:14
MaxdamantusWhich is a lot less than 100× 1:28 minutes14:14
KotCzarnybut it's similar laptop to yours, t500, 8GB mem, core2duo@2.4ghz14:14
Vajboh well it'll be done before year end :)14:14
KotCzarnysetup vbox on win7, install debian64, work there ;)14:15
KotCzarnygive it 6gb of ram for a good measure14:15
Vajbhoho mine seems to pack a bit more punch ;)14:15
KotCzarnycore i5?14:15
KotCzarnyeven better14:15
Vajbi5 yes14:15
Vajb2540 i beleive14:16
KotCzarnyyou probably finish faster on it than poor athlon14:16
Vajbshame im on a rush so can't get on to it today...14:16
Vajbbut it is getting all more likely that i'll have to retire him soon. Athlon i mean...14:17
KotCzarnyyup, even electricity wise that laptop uses fraction of pc watts14:17
KotCzarnyif you need screen estate connect external monitor14:18
Vajboh yeah that reminds. Are there any power batteries for sale for thinkpads?14:18
KotCzarnywhat's power battery?14:18
Vajbthe one which had juice for 8h for example14:18
Vajbhas*14:19
KotCzarnyhmm14:19
KotCzarnyis your 8cell or smaller?14:19
Vajbi think 8cell14:19
KotCzarnyis it old? what does thinkpad battery monitor say?14:19
KotCzarnythough in normal office work laptop uses ~20-25Watt14:21
KotCzarnyand 8 cell is ~60-70Wh14:21
KotCzarnyerm. 84Wh14:22
KotCzarny6 cell is ~56Wh14:23
KotCzarnyi guess you could get some external powerbank for laptops14:24
Vajbmonitor says it is at good health14:25
KotCzarnyyou can also try finding 30W solar panel ;)14:26
KotCzarny30W@20V14:26
KotCzarnybut it could be quite big14:26
KotCzarnyor... just get car accu and some voltage regulator ;)14:27
KotCzarny60Ah@12V means ~720Wh14:28
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Vajbhah @ solar panel. Would work neatly inside :p17:14
KotCzarnyhow about mobile wind turbine then? :P17:15
Vajblol17:16
Vajbi hope ac is over the top then17:16
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freemangordonanybody can help with glib signal/marshallers? as I think I found a nasty bug in hildon-plugins-notify-sv, but I need confirmation18:33
freemangordonthere is a dbus service nsv-decoder-service, which has gobject of type NsvDecoderService18:34
freemangordonin its clas init function it registers 2 signals18:34
freemangordon*class18:34
freemangordon"decoded" and "error-decoding"18:34
freemangordonsee https://pastebin.com/kD5urRzy18:35
freemangordonnow, the first signal has 2 parameters of type G_TYPE_STRING and returns void, but the marshaller is nsv_marshal_VOID__STRING_STRING_STRING. similar for the second signal18:36
freemangordonPali: ^^^?18:37
DocScrutinizer05how I hate it >:-(  every second website rises such shite lately  http://wstaw.org/m/2017/08/12/plasma-desktopkJ2346.png18:42
Palido not know18:43
freemangordonI asked on #gtk+, lets see18:44
DocScrutinizer05BS website X embeds even worse BS SSL ads with expired cert18:44
freemangordonhowever, if anybody here knows the answer :)...18:44
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: simple yes/no answer. Is this mashalling stuff about dbus proxy that loads and runs the real receiving process only when some signal or message on dbus is addressed towards receiver?18:46
freemangordonno. it is "definition" of a signal of a GObjectClass successor18:48
freemangordonтхоугх дбус проьъ хас марсхаллинг стуфф ас велл18:49
freemangordonsorry18:49
freemangordonthough dbus proxy has marshalling stuff as well18:49
DocScrutinizer05btw same above pastebin URL also made konqueror allocate ~6GB RAM and counting with 100% CPU, until I killed it18:49
freemangordonfix your browser18:49
DocScrutinizer05JS bullshit in ads18:49
freemangordonmozilla with uBlock origin has no problems with it18:50
DocScrutinizer05sure18:50
DocScrutinizer05konqueror JS is old crap. However it's way too easy to write shite in JS that does such rogue stuff unless the JS engine and hosting browser takes special care to avoid it18:51
freemangordonyeah, web 2, you know :(18:51
DocScrutinizer05indeed18:51
freemangordontrash clients' browsers, who cares18:51
freemangordonput all the nodejs and whatnot shit on it18:52
DocScrutinizer05they didn't think one second about safeguards of any kind in their JS definition, and they should get shot with owl dung because they didn't18:55
DocScrutinizer05"open new windows, sure let's implement that, sounds great" - this sort of brainfart. Everybody with one working ganglion vould see you want limit that in a few reasonable ways, like "not more than 5 per instance. Not allowed for subprocesses that already are a window opened by that function" or whatever18:58
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DocScrutinizer05they didn't and the result was fun with a bazillion advertisment windows spammed over your desktop, you couldn't close them as fast as they open19:00
DocScrutinizer05then they wend "oh, we might want to add something to stop that" - and failed again, in some other way19:00
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sixwheeledbeast^I switched to using uBlock/uMatrix recently. Pretty impressed22:21
NeKitpushed to git current PKGBUILDs I used for Arch chroot, if anyone is interested: https://github.com/NotKit/archlinux-maemo22:32
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