abc | ok, after a couple of reboots, some rtcom-messaging-ui killing, removing the conversation and receiving a countless number of already received smss I got a conclusion - don't touch this | 00:15 |
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abc | so EOT, this system is not for regular usage, it's for someone with more than a life to waste and it's proven this to me one more time | 00:17 |
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sixwheeledbeast^ | Maemo was never designed to be used to install packages like a normal debian system. | 01:06 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | HAM is the only way packages should be installed without risking dependency mayhem | 01:07 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | Sounds like something is a mess on the device. You shouldn't get issues with Maemo as stock | 01:11 |
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merlien | Good evening | 01:13 |
merlien | My standart n900 maemo browser seems to work but any link i use opens with could not load .. | 01:15 |
merlien | The programm manager works also ..but | 01:16 |
abc | maemo was released too early, the users were testers, as it is today | 01:17 |
merlien | :) maybe ... | 01:17 |
merlien | But i liked it from the first time i started my first n900 .. | 01:18 |
abc | it's nice when it works as it should | 01:19 |
merlien | Now i have 5 ofthem ..but just 2 working | 01:19 |
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merlien | .. i have never seen a behaver like this on any n900 | 01:20 |
abc | I think the first installation of kp was via fapman, maybe that's the problem | 01:20 |
merlien | ..the first window of the browser works .. But evry link i press or that opens in a new tab cannot load | 01:21 |
merlien | Power kernel ? | 01:21 |
abc | linux says "i won't work today" :) | 01:21 |
abc | yep | 01:21 |
merlien | On this one i have just cssu | 01:21 |
merlien | The browser cannot handle web 2.0 most of the time ..but no web at all is tt much :) | 01:22 |
abc | me too but during vacation I would like to transfer some photos from SD card to n900 to free some space and make more photos | 01:22 |
merlien | .. no problem | 01:23 |
abc | I thought that I have kp, but even it was installed it didn't work | 01:23 |
abc | so I have overclocked standard kernel :) | 01:24 |
merlien | You just wanted to copy files from sd to internal on the n900 and it didnt work ? | 01:24 |
abc | yep | 01:24 |
abc | h-e-n says "you need kp v44 you poor!" | 01:24 |
merlien | You dont need power kernel or anything to do that normaly :) | 01:24 |
abc | doesn't work -,- | 01:25 |
abc | to be precise - not microSD but SD | 01:25 |
abc | sandisk ultra II plus (sd card with usb) | 01:26 |
merlien | Okk | 01:27 |
merlien | Hen and so on | 01:27 |
abc | it won't even light up :/ | 01:28 |
merlien | Thats sad | 01:31 |
merlien | Hmm | 01:31 |
merlien | I am NOT a maemo\n900 pro ..but ihave them for along time now | 01:31 |
abc | well, it's development stopped, there are bugs and it won't be better | 01:33 |
merlien | The new motherboard for the n900 is comming soon .. :) | 01:34 |
merlien | ... Communty | 01:35 |
abc | neo900? | 01:35 |
merlien | Jesss | 01:35 |
abc | "never ending story, nana na nana na..." | 01:35 |
merlien | :D | 01:36 |
merlien | Coolcoolcool | 01:36 |
merlien | Ithink you are so right | 01:36 |
merlien | But thats a nice neverending story | 01:36 |
abc | it was old enough some time after they managed to start, now it's slightly better than n900 but not a rocket | 01:37 |
merlien | Jes | 01:37 |
merlien | ..BUT a rocket and more for a n900 case | 01:38 |
abc | with maemo onboard which should be still improved in many places it's not worth that money | 01:38 |
merlien | Imagine maemo running with this new ?fully? compatible cpu and things :p | 01:39 |
merlien | Hmmmm | 01:39 |
abc | I would not like to kill your dreams... | 01:39 |
abc | linux and compatibility is something for me which won't meet in short time | 01:40 |
merlien | :) .. I do not have the nerly 400 euros for a board anyway | 01:40 |
merlien | Nearly | 01:40 |
abc | for 400 euro I can go for a week of vacation by car and drive 2000 km in this time :) | 01:42 |
merlien | Jeah linux ..but the n900 is somehow so awesome with its possibliyts in many ways .. so open and clean .. :) :P i would like the new board so much ..and i am not a real linux nerd ..but computer nerd in any other way ..i do gameboymusik and shit like that party related | 01:43 |
merlien | :) .. Jea the money | 01:44 |
merlien | .. As a real computer junky :p nothing is to costly if its soocoool | 01:44 |
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merlien | ... But it has to be worth it ..of course | 01:45 |
merlien | ... :( | 01:45 |
merlien | Oh man .. Your kp h-e-n problem ..idontknow | 01:45 |
merlien | It worked for me the first imes i tryd it | 01:46 |
merlien | ..years ago ..with sticks cards .. Up to a 2tb hdd ..2terrabyte powered hd | 01:46 |
abc | um I like computers also, tried development to maemo, but so many problems met during IDE installation, so many dependencies not met... I have QtCreator but I can't develop, I've spent so much time searching and solving that it should be working but it's not | 01:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ((<abc> so EOT, this system is not for regular usage)) ai contraire. This system is working great fro regular usage, what fails is doing special stuff like installing a new kernel and not following the mandatory methods of doing this (here: use HAM and nothing else) | 01:47 |
merlien | .. At thattime I dreamed of usb otg while chargeing ... And its still a dilemma wih some devices :p | 01:48 |
merlien | Now i got a gpdwin and its verynice and somehow odd at the sametime | 01:48 |
merlien | ..but evrything goes | 01:48 |
merlien | :) | 01:49 |
merlien | :) | 01:51 |
merlien | I love you all | 01:51 |
abc | <DocScrutinizer05> there is nothing about going with it through Ham, just text about Application manager | 01:51 |
merlien | Hey doc | 01:51 |
merlien | Please what could i do with a not working maemo browser | 01:52 |
merlien | Links dont work | 01:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder why it doesn't work | 01:52 |
merlien | Like no internet connection | 01:52 |
merlien | ..idont remember a problem like that atall | 01:52 |
merlien | The first window works but no link and no new window | 01:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | does it take forever to load? or does it say "404 not found" or what is happening? | 01:53 |
merlien | 404@not found | 01:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | that's very odd and most likely not related to browser at all | 01:54 |
merlien | No it says no certificate or sometthin | 01:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I suggest to try a `host $URL` and a `wget $URL -O /dev/null` on xterm, maybe with root permissions | 01:55 |
merlien | Is that possible that for evry single page there has to be a certigicate ? | 01:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | "no certificate" is yet a totally different topic | 01:55 |
merlien | Sory | 01:56 |
merlien | Sooory | 01:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yes, for all https:// URLS there must be a cert on server, and the root cert in the server side certification chain - aka root CA - needs to be ione that's known by your device | 01:56 |
merlien | It says save connection failed ! ...With EVRY page i try to open | 01:56 |
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merlien | Okk what should i do now please | 01:57 |
merlien | ..im confused abit :) | 01:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I fail to understand what exactly is the error you see | 01:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I suggest to provide a screenshot | 01:58 |
merlien | Doc : i press on a link on a google page or type a adress in maemo browser, and it says sichere verbindung fehlgeschlagen (save connection not possible) | 01:59 |
merlien | (Failed) | 02:00 |
merlien | :) | 02:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ok that's a decent error message now | 02:00 |
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merlien | :) sory | 02:00 |
merlien | :) | 02:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like your cert store on device is messed up. I jave no clue about that stuff, but iirc freemangordon does | 02:01 |
merlien | :) sounds good man thankyou | 02:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you said you're running CSSU? | 02:01 |
merlien | Jes | 02:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there been a few patches for the cert store | 02:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | maybe one of them went haywire for you? | 02:02 |
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merlien | ..ihad the problem bevore cssu and now i stil got it | 02:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | err | 02:03 |
merlien | .installed cssu a houer ago :) .. This n900 base is new ...and it has a lock code i dont know also :( ...heeeeelp :) | 02:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | try re-installing maemo-security-certman maybe? | 02:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | what? you have an unknown lock code? fix it as long as you still have access to the device | 02:05 |
merlien | :) is that sonmething installable from the programm manager ? | 02:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | prolly only apt | 02:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | better wait for freemangordon | 02:06 |
merlien | Prolly? | 02:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | probably | 02:06 |
merlien | :) you know what time from now he could be here to ask ? | 02:07 |
merlien | ..and the n900 seams fine without it sofar | 02:08 |
merlien | .. But i cannot clean or like that | 02:08 |
merlien | :( | 02:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | tomorrow morning or afternoon/evening CET | 02:08 |
merlien | I asked over lokal ebay from a friend ..and the replyd they cangtfind it /haveit | 02:09 |
merlien | :) | 02:09 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~lockcode | 02:09 |
infobot | rumour has it, lockcode is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=524522#post524522 | 02:09 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~defailtlockcode | 02:10 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~defaultlockcode | 02:10 |
infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, defaultlockcode is 12345 | 02:10 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there's a more brite force and way more expert method to reset lockcode to default, but that needs tools to access CAL which are not easily available/installable | 02:13 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 02:15 |
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merlien | Sory :) the default lock code worked .. | 02:52 |
merlien | I am free now | 02:53 |
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merlien | But i am not allowed to use an internetbrowser | 02:56 |
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bencoh | The certificate expired on 08/01/2017 12:08 PM. The current time is 08/02/2017 10:52 AM. :( | 10:53 |
bencoh | on TMO | 10:53 |
bencoh | hmm, no I'm getting something even stranger | 10:55 |
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bencoh | freemangordon: did certificate validation worked for you when you played with libsoup and gnutls? | 11:22 |
bencoh | s/worked/work/ | 11:23 |
infobot | bencoh meant: freemangordon: did certificate validation work for you when you played with libsoup and gnutls? | 11:23 |
bencoh | (looks like it did since you're using it for video playback ... the question is how/why does it work there) | 11:23 |
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TheKit | how to exit rawcam? | 14:08 |
bencoh | I'd use Ctrl-backspace (hardware keyboard) if in doubt, but ... | 14:24 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | powerbutton menu "finsih current task" | 17:51 |
TheKit | used this, but I thought there should be some exit button within camera I couldn't find | 18:01 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know rawcam | 18:04 |
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TheKit | Wizzup, did you try to boot the kernel on Droid 4? | 22:24 |
Wizzup | not yet. | 22:29 |
Wizzup | I was planning to root it today | 22:29 |
TheKit | it seems LCD support is still not merged | 22:43 |
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