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| KotCzarny | http://www.techamok.com/?pid=18516 | 09:45 |
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| KotCzarny | and 'leaked' means even mor funsies | 09:52 |
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| kerio | how do i VPN | 12:00 |
| * freemangordon wonders who hacked kerio's account | 12:02 | |
| kerio | :< | 12:02 |
| kerio | no like | 12:02 |
| kerio | in maemo | 12:02 |
| kerio | possibly something with a GUI | 12:02 |
| kerio | i wonder if i can just proxy the SIP stuff actually | 12:03 |
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| freemangordon | kerio: there are a couple of choices in HAM | 12:03 |
| kerio | but SIP uses udp, and my usual solution of shoving everything into ssh won't work | 12:03 |
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| Zungo | whoa | 13:53 |
| Zungo | that dude has a pattern | 13:54 |
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| Zungo | not shitty client | 13:54 |
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| Zungo | seem intentional | 13:54 |
| Zungo | or maybe not | 13:54 |
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| Zungo | report this guy to staff | 17:29 |
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| kerio | is there some sort of log for the builtin SIP client? | 17:36 |
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| Zungo | kerio, try /var/logs? (not sure if that is valid) | 17:58 |
| Zungo | and/or syslog | 17:58 |
| Zungo | hmm | 17:58 |
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| bencoh | kerio: apart from the eventdb you mean? | 18:00 |
| bencoh | debug logs? | 18:00 |
| xes | kerio: what are you doing? are you hitting the bug about the wrong source ip into sip packets? | 18:21 |
| kerio | xes: no clue | 18:21 |
| kerio | i don't really know how SIP works | 18:21 |
| kerio | however, zoiper on my computer through the n900 connection works | 18:22 |
| kerio | which was pretty amazing, since the n900 was using a vpn to my home machine, but | 18:22 |
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| xes | kerio: if you are using sip inside a vpn you need to correct sip source ip into maemo | 18:23 |
| kerio | how do i do that :< | 18:23 |
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| xes | mc-tool update $acct string:local-ip-address="$OPENVPN_IP" | 18:27 |
| kerio | the local ip? | 18:27 |
| kerio | because i have at least two NATs from this | 18:27 |
| xes | there should also a wiki somewhere about this issue... | 18:27 |
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| kerio | what's mc-tool | 18:28 |
| kerio | oh, libmissioncontrol-utils | 18:28 |
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| kerio | D: | 18:29 |
| *** DocScrutinizer05 sets mode: +b pagurus!*@* | 18:29 | |
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| xes | then maybe you have to fix some wrong packet with an iptables snat | 18:29 |
| kerio | nouuu | 18:30 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: why not a forward-ban to ##fix_your_connection | 18:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: tell me how to do that | 18:49 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 doesn't know about forward-bans in freenode | 18:50 | |
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| peetah | 1 | 19:08 |
| peetah | oops sorry | 19:09 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: append `$##fix_your_connection` to the ban mask | 19:09 |
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| *** DocScrutinizer05 sets mode: -b pagurus!*@* | 19:10 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer05 sets mode: +b pagurus!*@* | 19:10 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't see a difference, I think this works only with chanserv akick | 19:11 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05 sets mode +b pagurus!*@* | 19:11 |
| kerio | are you doing /mode +b pagurus!*@*$##fix_your_connection | 19:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so? | 19:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 19:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh no | 19:12 |
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| *** DocScrutinizer05 sets mode: +b pagurus!*@*$##fix_your_connection | 19:12 | |
| kerio | yay | 19:12 |
| kerio | let's see if pagurus ends up there | 19:12 |
| kerio | wait, pagurus is here | 19:13 |
| kerio | :o | 19:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't see much anyway, since usually I have ignore join/nick/part | 19:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pagurus: please fix your connection | 19:14 |
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| pagurus | hey guys, sorry for the join spam | 19:16 |
| pagurus | its my reconnect script for rcirc in emacs, I tried to fix it... | 19:16 |
| pagurus | damn daily disconnect | 19:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | np. just maybe consider to test with a list of dummy channels to autojoin, until you're happy with how the script works | 19:20 |
| Zungo | ah ok | 19:27 |
| Zungo | gg | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I start to forget skills since I never use then :-S https://freenode.net/kb/answer/channelmodes | 19:29 |
| kerio | zoiper on ios connects just fine to SIP :< | 19:43 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05 i can cheat my home ISP ;o | 19:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hm? | 19:56 |
| kerio | i have a VDSL at home | 19:56 |
| kerio | so my landline goes through voip | 19:56 |
| kerio | however, it's all managed | 19:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eew | 19:57 |
| kerio | they don't just give you the SIP parameters | 19:57 |
| kerio | BUT | 19:57 |
| kerio | they give you an app to do phone calls from a smartphone if you're connected to the wifi | 19:57 |
| kerio | MITM the app, get the credentials, VPN | 19:57 |
| kerio | i can use my landline anywhere in the world now ;o | 19:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, weird intricate approach but nifty | 19:58 |
| kerio | and i have free national calls from my landline ;o | 19:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 19:58 |
| kerio | now if only i could do that from the n900... >:( | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oh ugh | 19:59 |
| kerio | tbh i only managed to take and receive calls with zoiper (desktop and ios) | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how about installing asterisk 'at home'? | 20:00 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: that could be an option | 20:00 |
| kerio | can it work as a "SIP bouncer" of sorts? | 20:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure | 20:00 |
| kerio | ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ gibe config | 20:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | asterisk is a B2B-UA | 20:00 |
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| kerio | i will only install asterisk if it's available in the freebsd ports | 20:01 |
| kerio | it is ;o | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aka back to back user agent | 20:01 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: that sounds like a pretty amazing idea actually | 20:02 |
| kerio | where the fuck were you like 6 hours ago | 20:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you should be able to make asterisk log in to your managed VoIP as if tiwere a client, and connect to asterisk via SIP from N900 | 20:02 |
| kerio | i can even run it in a jail ;o | 20:02 |
| kerio | i like jails | 20:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/tiwere/it were/ | 20:02 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: you should be able to make asterisk log in to your managed VoIP as if it were a client, and connect to asterisk via SIP from N900 | 20:02 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: what are the cpu requirements for asterisk? | 20:05 |
| kerio | will i ever run into CPU bottlenecks, for instance | 20:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | added benefit: you can use asterisk to call any extension from any extension, and you can even have multiple 'public lines' in same PBX | 20:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, asterisk doesn't do any heavy lifting with CPU | 20:06 |
| kerio | doesn't it do audio transcoding tho | 20:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | basically works like a packet forwarder | 20:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it *might* do transcoding, yes | 20:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but on a ridiculous rate, for modern PCs | 20:07 |
| kerio | oh right, phones | 20:07 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05 theres ONE HUNDRED AND ELEVEN CONFIG FILES | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, it's a PITA to cinfig | 20:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-back_user_agent | 20:09 |
| kerio | why can't i just use sippy_b2bua | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk_(PBX) | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know sippy_b2bua | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you prolly can use it as well | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | any B"BUA should do | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | B2BUA | 20:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: yop dawg, heard you like jails. So how about running https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreePBX_Distro in a VM jail to have jails in your jails | 20:16 |
| kerio | Operating systemGNU/Linux | 20:16 |
| kerio | DISGUSTING | 20:17 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 feels like "Huh? WTF?!" each time wikipedia starts babbling about their "primary source" policies. Like >>This article relies too much on references to primary sources. Please improve this by adding secondary or tertiary sources.<< | 20:25 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems you can't write your own stuff in wikipedia, and you can't quote original sources. You need to quote others quoting original sources or writing their original stuff, which is weird and I feel like I got this comletely wrong | 20:27 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: socat UDP4-RECVFROM:5060,fork UDP4-SENDTO:5.97.53.8:5060 | 20:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability >>Wikipedia does not publish original research. Its content is determined by published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of its editors.<< | 20:29 |
| kerio | this is so fucking dumb lmao | 20:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: this is SIP only, what about RTP? | 20:30 |
| kerio | what is RTP | 20:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the 'payload channel' for VoIP | 20:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SIP= Session INITIATION Protocol, RTP = Realtime TRANSFER Protocol | 20:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SIP negotiates RTP.<codec>.<rate>.<portA>-<portB> between both clients | 20:32 |
| kerio | well i was able to PLACE a call at least | 20:32 |
| kerio | :^) | 20:32 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: this doesn't make a lot of sense tho | 20:33 |
| kerio | why was i able to make it work by routing just that one address in openvpn then | 20:33 |
| kerio | oh i guess that the address is the same | 20:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | NFC | 20:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | while SIP is usually via a registrar server, the real payload aka call is client<->client usually | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SIP_call_flow_between_UA,_Redirect_Server,_Proxy_and_UA.png --> "Media (RTP)" in red | 20:36 |
| kerio | yeah but the other "client" is always some fake thing | 20:37 |
| kerio | because this is strictly landline-landline | 20:38 |
| kerio | i guess that the SIP registrar also acts as the other client | 20:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SIP-B2BUA-call-flow.png | 20:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, registrars often act as B2VUA too | 20:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | B2BUA | 20:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | particularly registrars resp VoIP providers have gateways VoIP<->POTS | 20:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so more often than not you have a call setup like VoIP<->POTS- - - POTS<->VoIP | 20:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you call a phone number (not a SIP address), you regularly end on your provider's gateway to POTS | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SIP is a tad more compley than most people tend to think. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol | 20:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | complex | 20:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you want to learn about it, I strongly recommend using twinklephone, written by one of the authors of the IETF SIP RFCs | 20:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | twinkle has great logging that helps understand what's really going on | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (NEVER EVER use the "show log" menu item, it is braindead Qt shit that needs ~100byte of RAM for each byte of text in log) | 20:51 |
| kerio | but Twinkle is available for Linux only | 20:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 20:52 |
| kerio | that's what the page says :< | 20:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | twinkle been developed and tested at least on BSD, linux, Solaris, and a number of other platforms | 20:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the GUI should run on all platforms that have Qt3, the CLI client on all POSIX platforms | 20:55 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: does it support OSS | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | OSS? | 20:56 |
| kerio | /dev/dsp | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is a waaay too ambiguous acronym | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah yes, it does | 20:57 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: how do i diagnose the maemo sip cleint | 20:57 |
| kerio | client | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it even started with that only | 20:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: (maemo client) sorry NFC, it's telepathy-sofiasip | 20:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe you find details googling for that term | 20:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy_(software) >>Rakia: for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP), using Nokia's open source Sofia-SIP library<< | 21:00 |
| kerio | i mean it should work | 21:02 |
| kerio | but it doesn't D: | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wireshark to the rescue :-) | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it has grat dissectors for SIP/RTP | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | great* | 21:02 |
| kerio | can i just tcpdump | 21:03 |
| kerio | or do i have to use tshark | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see wirehsarl manual | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think wireshark also can read in zxpdump logs | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tcpdump | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but tshark is prolly simpler to use | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and there's tshark for maemo | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can connect to it via your desktop PC wireshark GUI frontend remotely | 21:04 |
| kerio | nah i'm using tshark on the other end of the vpn | 21:05 |
| kerio | should work regardless | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | make sure tshark filters out and thus doesn't report own traffic | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the funny old "forkbomb" effect when running tcpdump via ssh remote login X-P | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tcpdump logging own logging (*5) | 21:07 |
| kerio | is this thing even working | 21:08 |
| kerio | this thing = vpn | 21:08 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: btw the SIP thing worked immediately on iOS | 21:10 |
| kerio | just sayin | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | WTF?! my ssh login to N900 had a 15s freeze lag | 21:10 |
| kerio | usedns no | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# ps -l 7192 | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | F S UID PID PPID C PRI NI ADDR SZ WCHAN TTY TIME CMD | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 0 S 29999 7192 1 0 80 0 - 1884 sys_po ? 0:06 /usr/lib/telepathy/telepathy-sofiasip | 21:12 |
| kerio | honestly i just gave up | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | connecting N900 to arbitrary standard SIP registrars is "just do it" | 21:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | plus you even could run asterisk on N900 locally and connect to that :-P | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which makes for a nice and simple migration path to Neo900's modem | 21:16 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: except that it doesnt fucking work | 21:26 |
| kerio | because of some weird incompatibility with VPNs | 21:26 |
| kerio | builtin android client | 21:27 |
| kerio | works | 21:27 |
| kerio | 10/10 | 21:27 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: are you saying that running asterisk locally is going to be the simplest way to do phone calls on the neo900 | 21:34 |
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| kerio | anyway this SIP thing is nitfy | 21:37 |
| kerio | nifty | 21:37 |
| kerio | i'll investigate running a local asterisk | 21:37 |
| kerio | to not require the whole openvpn shebang | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I say that running asterisk locally is the simplest way to *implement* phonecalls in *maemo* Neo900 | 21:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as long as you want to do them calls via the maemo dialler-ui | 21:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise use an arbitrary dialer, there's a shitload of them | 21:47 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5644 | 21:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | those generic dialers however won't integrate with contacts, call-log, notifications, vibra, audio management, 911-features, holdbutton functionality on headsets, younameit | 21:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | recaller, mediaplayer pause on call, screenblanker and proximity sensor, ... | 21:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Wizzup: ROTFL | 22:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>maybe handover dev of this toy to someone with unix experience<< FULL ACK | 22:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or just nuke the whole pile of shit | 22:01 |
| KotCzarny | Oh, cool, systemd is on github apparently. Now, I don't have to go to twitter to troll you guys | 22:10 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 22:10 |
| KotCzarny | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5740 | 22:11 |
| KotCzarny | this one is nice too | 22:11 |
| kerio | to the reddit | 22:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>It certainly doesn't help it isn't defined anywhere what path_is_safe means and for what it is "safe". << https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/5655 -- pathetic and embarrassing | 22:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~nosystemd | 22:32 |
| infobot | i heard nosystemd is https://devuan.org http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/10/11/0/ | 22:32 |
| xy2_ | wtf https://github.com/vshatskyi/black-screen | 22:39 |
| KotCzarny | well, if you have space cpu power, why not, otherwise: meh | 22:40 |
| kerio | that's what my desktop was lacking | 22:41 |
| kerio | more javascript in my terminal emulator | 22:41 |
| KotCzarny | mmm, sploits that sploit you while you are sploiting? | 22:42 |
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