IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2017-04-15

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DocScrutinizer05hmm, swap help welcomes me00:02
DocScrutinizer05hell00:02
KotCzarnyhttps://pastebin.com/raw/HiM2imcN00:04
KotCzarny41M free00:05
KotCzarnyhue hue00:05
DocScrutinizer05http://paste.ubuntu.com/2438295900:05
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DocScrutinizer05funny ubifs, when deleting a 66MB file only frees up ~15MB00:09
DocScrutinizer05http://paste.ubuntu.com/2438298900:10
DocScrutinizer05-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       206251 Apr 15 00:02 /var/log/syslog00:11
DocScrutinizer05F U tracker00:11
ShadowJKI forget, does "file /var/log/syslog" display how much physical space the file takes up?00:16
DocScrutinizer05prolly not00:16
DocScrutinizer05ls neither00:16
DocScrutinizer05;-)00:16
ShadowJKI know there was something that showed both00:17
DocScrutinizer05umm yep, forgot what it been00:17
DocScrutinizer05stat?00:17
ShadowJKhm00:17
DocScrutinizer05http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31394106/in-which-case-will-the-physical-size-of-a-file-be-smaller-than-the-logical-size00:24
DocScrutinizer05or du ?00:26
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ShadowJKstat doesn't do it00:28
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DocScrutinizer05hmmph  http://paste.ubuntu.com/2438307700:36
DocScrutinizer05t900:~# stat  /var/log/syslog00:42
DocScrutinizer05  File: "/var/log/syslog"00:42
DocScrutinizer05  Size: 5773            Blocks: 16         IO Block: 4096   regular file00:42
DocScrutinizer05F U messybox00:43
DocScrutinizer05I read this as virtual size 5773, phy size 16 * 409600:44
DocScrutinizer05no, IO Block doesn't match 00:47
DocScrutinizer05no, IO Block doesn't match %B00:47
DocScrutinizer05so virtual size 5773, phy size 16 * 51200:47
DocScrutinizer05prolly allocates 8 blocks at a time though00:48
DocScrutinizer05thus with >4k size, it uses 16 blocks aka 8k00:48
* DocScrutinizer05 thinks a block always = 512, by definition00:50
DocScrutinizer05except in tools like mkfs where you specify blocksize00:51
DocScrutinizer05https://linux.die.net/man/8/mkfs.ext300:53
DocScrutinizer05http://paste.ubuntu.com/24383168 not even stat itself *really* knows ;-P00:58
DocScrutinizer05"Block size: 4096       Fundamental block size: 4096" vs %B=51200:59
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kerioyo DocScrutinizer0520:42
keriohow do i SIP on a computer20:42
KotCzarnyyou use a sip client, dummy20:42
keriowhich one20:44
freemangordonpidgin?20:54
keriooh goddammit how do i get the password back from zoiper20:56
kerioit's stored in base64 in the xml file20:57
kerioit was not base6420:57
KotCzarnyany of them?20:59
KotCzarnywin/lin?20:59
KotCzarnyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SIP_software#Clients21:00
KotCzarnychoose one21:00
KotCzarnylinphone seems one of the nice ones21:01
kerioyeah but now my only copy of the plaintext password is stored in this program21:01
KotCzarnysniff it?21:01
KotCzarnyhttp://shop.zoiper.com/password_recovery.php21:02
KotCzarnyhum, though its account pass, not sip one21:03
DocScrutinizer05kerio: on maemo you simply create a SIP VoIP account in settings21:04
DocScrutinizer05on generic linux I'm totally biased, so can't help but suggest twinklephone21:05
DocScrutinizer05yes, it still exists, somebody ported it to rev1.921:05
DocScrutinizer05works best with ALSA though, PA is da shite, doesn't know how to flush buffers or sth21:06
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DocScrutinizer05I tested ekiga, kphone and linphone too, neither worked for me21:09
DocScrutinizer05and sfl21:09
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DocScrutinizer05twinkle comes with CLI on top of the GUI, and with decent scripting via hooks21:10
DocScrutinizer05both childs of my bitching and contribution21:11
DocScrutinizer05and twinkle is made to be as platform agnostic as possible21:13
DocScrutinizer05FWOW21:13
DocScrutinizer05FWI*W21:13
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DocScrutinizer05you could say Michel deBoer only was interested in writing the core to verify his contributions to SIP RFC, so I defined a lot of the whole UI and API21:15
DocScrutinizer05twinle been the de facto reference SIP implementation for basically all SIP providers, for several years and maybe still today21:16
DocScrutinizer05https://www.ixquick.com/do/search?q=Michel+deBoer+RFC21:17
DocScrutinizer05https://www.google.de/search?as_sitesearch=ietf.org&q=Michel+deBoer21:20
DocScrutinizer05http://twinklephone.com/21:23
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DocScrutinizer05it even comes with a twinkle-console binary that has no GUI 'cruft' and thus is only half the size21:58
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