IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2017-04-07

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* DocScrutinizer05 frowns at that freedesktop crap08:33
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DocScrutinizer05jr@saturn:~/mymaemo-workdir/maemo-my-private-workdir> echo $XD08:37
DocScrutinizer05$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS      $XDG_DATA_DIRS        $XDG_SEAT             $XDG_SESSION_ID       $XDM_MANAGED08:37
DocScrutinizer05$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP  $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR      $XDG_SESSION_COOKIE   $XDG_VTNR08:37
DocScrutinizer05http://termbin.com/bofq  /etc/profile.d/xdg-environment.sh08:55
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: ^^^08:56
DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/1622925009:00
DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/5783748609:04
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jonwilhi12:17
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xesafter all... unity must die. https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/16:45
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drathirhttps://arstechnica.com/security/2017/04/rash-of-in-the-wild-attacks-permanently-destroys-poorly-secured-iot-devices/ https://it.slashdot.org/story/17/04/06/2016205/new-destructive-malware-intentionally-bricks-iot-devices?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon17:08
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Enrico_MenottiA few days ago, thanks to many persons here, I've been able to boot Devuan on the N900. Now I'm trying to compile my own Linux kernel. The build process runs fine, but when I upload and boot the zImage I get no messages from the kernel, and eventually the N900 reboots. How to have some verbosity from the kernel, just to check whether something happens?19:44
freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: the only way is to use serial interface19:45
Enrico_MenottiBut the Devuan kernel says something while it boots, before mounting the file system.19:46
L29Ahwhen i tried to run Pali's kernel it provided dmesg to the display by default19:46
L29Ahi mean, with rx51_defconfig19:46
freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: did you follow my advice and use rx51_defconfig from Pali's branch on github?19:46
Enrico_Menottifreemangordon Sorry I already had the mainline kernel. In fact I was thinking about trying with Pali's.19:47
Enrico_MenottiI will do.19:47
freemangordonseems you don;t get it - use rx51_defconfig from Pali's branch with upstream kernal19:48
freemangordon*kernel19:48
Enrico_MenottiOk, yes, that's also an option - I was thinking of that too.19:48
Enrico_MenottiI'll try in a while.19:48
freemangordonjust make sure to "make mrproper; make rx51_defconfig; make -j4 zImage"19:48
Enrico_MenottiI don't get the first of these three commands.19:49
freemangordonhehe19:49
freemangordonyou know Mr Proper?19:49
Enrico_MenottiI got the make rx51_defconfig and make zImage.19:49
Enrico_MenottiNo?19:49
Enrico_Menotti?19:50
freemangordon~mrproper19:50
freemangordonhmm19:50
freemangordonOMG, seems they've renamed it19:50
freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Clean19:51
freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: "make mrproper" on kernel is something like "make clean"19:51
Enrico_MenottiMastro Lindo.19:51
Enrico_MenottiIn Italian.19:51
Enrico_MenottiSo is the command actually "make mrproper" ?!?19:52
freemangordonyes19:52
Enrico_Menotti:)19:52
freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/difference-between-make-mrproper-and-make-clean-473144/19:53
freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: make mrproper to ensure there are no remnants from your old .config19:54
Enrico_MenottiOk, I read it. Make clean deletes build products. Make mrproper also .config files. Right?19:55
freemangordonyes19:55
Enrico_MenottiI'd have also a question about modules. On the N900 page on eLinux, there are commands for building modules as well. But I don't understand the make install_modules.19:55
freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: to make modules you issue "make -j4 modules"19:56
freemangordoninstalling is a bit trickie as you don;t want them installed on your build pc /lib19:56
Enrico_Menottihttp://elinux.org/N900 says also make INSTALL_MOD_PATH=/mnt/target modules_install.19:56
Enrico_MenottiI don't get this comand.19:57
Enrico_Menotti*command19:57
freemangordonthe commane is "make modules_install", INSTALL_MOD_PATH tells *WHERE* to install those .ko files19:57
freemangordon*the command19:57
freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: anyway, you'd better have working zImage first19:58
freemangordonand the start playing wiith modules19:58
freemangordon*with19:58
Enrico_MenottiBut is it possible to boot the file system without modules? Or should I just get some messages from the zImage?19:59
freemangordonyes, it is possible, but devices with drivers not compiled in the kernel won't work20:05
Enrico_MenottiBy the way, is there a way to download just the _defconfig file from github without cloning the whole repository?20:06
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Enrico_MenottiOk, I got it. Not very intuitive, but I got it. Namely: went to the raw file, copied the url, and used curl to download.20:29
freemangordonmhm20:30
Enrico_MenottiSomething wrong?20:30
freemangordonno, on the opposite20:31
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Enrico_MenottiOk, I made the rx51_defconfig. Had a look at the make menuconfig - seems similar to what I already used, but of course I don't get all the details. Now I have one last doubt before building the zImage: is it correct to use the armhf cross-compiler?20:37
freemangordonyes20:48
Enrico_MenottiOk, thanks. I'll build now.20:51
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parazydfreemangordon, Wizzup: just wanted to update. my work on amprolla is progressing nicely. devuan opted for my version to be the one running in devuan's production so that will require more days of work. so instead of finishing it next week, i'll probably need an additional week or so because of being busy  on other sides21:07
parazydWizzup: also, when i have the workflow set up, i can let you in on the details if you're willing to put some short time into it. it's actually very simple stuff, just a tad time consuming21:08
parazydi'm doing some hits and misses because of my lack of understanding of the whole repo hierarchy, but i think i finally got it21:10
parazydEnrico_Menotti: see https://github.com/dyne/arm-sdk/raw/next/boards/kernel-configs/n900.config21:11
parazydiirc the rx51_defconfig makes the watchdog(s) as modules so it tends to cause kernel panics21:12
Wizzupsweet21:13
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