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| sixwheeledbeast | yep thx, I forget that m.o is broken for HTTPS everywhere | 01:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | is it? | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oh, redirects to login, weird | 02:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and login redirects to http://maemo.org. at last then - after authenticating - you could use https://maemo.org | 02:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | weird | 02:19 |
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| xes | well, old (2012) behavior was that https://maemo.org* was redirected to https://bugs.maemo.org (???!). Now actually, midgard forces you to login once you use https | 09:55 |
| xes | since that old redirect has been removed | 09:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | funny stuff is HTTPS works as supposed once you logged in | 12:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | with the recent brainfuck mandatory https in browsers, I wonder how many disgruntled users think they are not allowed to browse maemo.org anymore, without authenticating | 12:12 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 also idly wonders what's the correct time spam for black ribbons and condolences | 12:15 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm absolutely not the right person to judge on such stiff, as you cna see easily | 12:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "stuff", and "can" | 12:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks to missing publication date I can't even tell how long that is there already | 12:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems to be since around 2016-11-16 or sth | 12:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I _think_ 4 months of condolences is enough | 12:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | @council: ^^^ ? | 12:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ohmy sorry! time SPAN, not time spam | 12:29 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 idly ponders if midgard actually could roll back to page revision 1.29 (from 1.30) | 12:31 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pretty sure that not: http://wstaw.org/m/2017/03/06/plasma-desktopf17764.png but http://wstaw.org/m/2017/03/06/plasma-desktopo17764.png | 12:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | midgard, my ass. You never know what's fucked up by design, what by implementation, what by maemo addons, and what by database corruption and bitrot | 13:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which boils down to a simple constant W*T*F??!?? | 13:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but of course http://atomictoasters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/world_as_seen_by.png | 13:08 |
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| ravelo | freemangordon, Wizzup: what are the open questions regarding porting Maemo? | 17:49 |
| ravelo | I just read the "getting organized" thread again | 17:50 |
| ravelo | it's all still quite confusing | 17:50 |
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| ravelo | I don't see the ultimate goal | 17:51 |
| ravelo | For me the goal would be like: | 17:54 |
| ravelo | using "standard linux" (debian, devuan) | 17:54 |
| ravelo | port the best applications that are easy to port from Maemo to standard linux | 17:54 |
| ravelo | reimplement pieces of software that are too difficult to port | 17:55 |
| ravelo | -> this should give a nice mobile OS in the long run | 17:55 |
| ravelo | Maybe it would also be nice to compare with other mobile Linux - Distros | 18:01 |
| ravelo | I found the following: QtMoko, SHR, QuantumSTEP, OpenSUSE (according to http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/page/Software/), maybe there are more? | 18:03 |
| ravelo | please comment... | 18:03 |
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| ravelo | bbl | 18:18 |
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| freemangordon | ravelo: the "ultimate goal" is to have as much as possible functionality from fremantle running on top of some recent distro, I don;t think such a goal needs anything written to be clear :) | 19:02 |
| freemangordon | and no, porting pieces from here and there won;t give us the expected result - we need everything possible ported - h-d - hh, mce, dsme, etc, etc | 19:03 |
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| MoeIcenowy | freemangordon: how's the progress now? ;-) | 19:29 |
| freemangordon | MoeIcenowy: I am on hildon-home and its dependencies, right now trying to port libhildonfm | 19:30 |
| freemangordon | this is gtk2 port ofc, for gtk3 see the relevant thread on TMO :) | 19:30 |
| freemangordon | unfortunately I am very short on spare time recently so the progress is not that fast as one would like to be, but :) | 19:31 |
| freemangordon | MoeIcenowy: and ofc, it can;t be any faster with guys and girls only asking for progress, without actually helping on the development part :p | 19:34 |
| bencoh | sorry about that, btw ;) | 19:36 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: how did it go with the osso-bookmark-engine debian package? did it work properly? | 19:37 |
| * freemangordon is sorry for his mood, he is a little sick and not in the best condition | 19:37 | |
| freemangordon | bencoh: yes | 19:37 |
| bencoh | oh, cool then | 19:37 |
| freemangordon | with some tweaks for scratchbox | 19:37 |
| bencoh | oh? strange, since I built it on sb | 19:37 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: https://github.com/community-ssu/osso-bookmark-engine/commits/master | 19:38 |
| freemangordon | no idea, it failed here | 19:38 |
| bencoh | different sb version I suppose | 19:38 |
| bencoh | or different automake/autoconf version maybe | 19:38 |
| freemangordon | could be | 19:40 |
| bencoh | well I'll try and keep those changes in mind next time :) | 19:40 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: though, I've never seen libtool used in makefile :) | 19:40 |
| freemangordon | wait, automake/autoconf? | 19:40 |
| bencoh | err nevermind, there is no autotools there | 19:40 |
| freemangordon | autofoo is not used by your packaging | 19:41 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 19:41 |
| bencoh | I was referring to libtool actually :) | 19:41 |
| bencoh | and, exactly ... autotools usually abstract all those libtool calls, meaning we never have to bother with it | 19:41 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 19:42 |
| bencoh | and other makefile-based maemo packages just don't use libtool, meaning you have to hardcode lib names and stuff like that, which I didn't want to do | 19:42 |
| freemangordon | but anyway, the one on github compiles in both SB and devuan, so it should be ok | 19:42 |
| bencoh | nice :) | 19:43 |
| bencoh | could serve as a base for other osso-* packages then I guess | 19:43 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 19:43 |
| bencoh | unless someone at devuan says it's utterly broken :] | 19:43 |
| bencoh | (actually, it is utterly broken per modern devuan standards) | 19:43 |
| bencoh | (s/devuan/de**an/) | 19:43 |
| freemangordon | though I still prefer using autofoo to wrap libtool | 19:43 |
| bencoh | me too | 19:44 |
| bencoh | just didn't want to add it since it wasn't there in the first place | 19:44 |
| bencoh | maybe I should've :] | 19:44 |
| freemangordon | how did you decide on whether it was there? | 19:44 |
| bencoh | there was no auto* (configure.ac/makefile.am) files in repository, so I just went with the flow | 19:45 |
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| bencoh | s/files/file/ | 19:45 |
| infobot | bencoh meant: there was no auto* (configure.ac/makefile.am) file in repository, so I just went with the flow | 19:45 |
| bencoh | ~botsnack | 19:45 |
| infobot | bencoh: :) | 19:45 |
| freemangordon | but ofc, this is RE job, not porting :) | 19:45 |
| freemangordon | no file can appear without we putting it there :) | 19:46 |
| bencoh | yeah I was referring to your repository, not to original nokia work :) | 19:46 |
| bencoh | well I'll just go for autotools next time then ;) | 19:46 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 19:46 |
| bencoh | meanwhile I learned some more about libtool that night, so all is fine :) | 19:46 |
| freemangordon | :) | 19:46 |
| bencoh | (I had forgotten how broken and ugly it can get, then :D) | 19:47 |
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| Enrico___ | Test | 19:54 |
| Enrico___ | Please somebody let me know if you can read me - I need to test my client. | 19:55 |
| mp107 | Enrico___: I can | 19:55 |
| Enrico___ | Thank you. | 19:55 |
| Enrico___ | Ok, my question: I have a semi-bricked N900. Thanks to Pali and NIN101, I have booted it with rescue OS from sd card. | 19:56 |
| Enrico___ | I am able to access it from my Mac by telnet. | 19:56 |
| Enrico___ | And also by graphic interface if I enable mass storage mode. | 19:57 |
| Enrico___ | In the latter mode, I can see the MyDocs directory. | 19:57 |
| Enrico___ | But by telnet I can't. | 19:57 |
| Enrico___ | So where is it? | 19:57 |
| freemangordon | Enrico___: /dev/mmcblkNp1 | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | where N is either 0 or 1 | 19:58 |
| Enrico___ | Ok let me try. Thank you. | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | you should mount it for it to be visible | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | check with sfdisk -l | 19:59 |
| Enrico___ | I have mounted it. | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | cool | 20:00 |
| Enrico___ | I find the following directory: /mnt/maemo/ | 20:00 |
| Enrico___ | Where all maemo seems to be. But no trace of MyDocs. | 20:00 |
| KotCzarny | do sfdisk -l | 20:01 |
| KotCzarny | mydocs is usually ~28gigabytes big | 20:01 |
| Enrico___ | With sfdisk -l I end up with many errors. | 20:02 |
| KotCzarny | try sfdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 | 20:02 |
| KotCzarny | and sfdisk -l /dev/mmcblk1 | 20:02 |
| KotCzarny | unless you have badblocks which could be the reason of semibrickage | 20:03 |
| Enrico___ | Yes I see four partitions. | 20:03 |
| Enrico___ | Now? | 20:03 |
| KotCzarny | do you see one that is ~28gigs big? | 20:04 |
| Enrico___ | I think it's the first. | 20:04 |
| Enrico___ | It's exactly 28315648 blocks. | 20:05 |
| KotCzarny | if you type: mount |grep yourpartition, is it mounted? | 20:05 |
| Enrico___ | Let me try. | 20:05 |
| freemangordon | Enrico___: what are you trying to achieve? | 20:06 |
| Enrico___ | No, I was just looking around and trying to get familiar with the system. I would like to stard Maemo. | 20:07 |
| Enrico___ | *start | 20:07 |
| freemangordon | you can;t start it from rescueos | 20:07 |
| Enrico___ | I am trying to avoid reflashing the device. | 20:07 |
| freemangordon | ok, but what for you need rescueos? | 20:07 |
| Pali | if you cannot boot maemo in normal way, then it is broken and you have to flash it | 20:07 |
| freemangordon | unless you know what is broken and how to fix it :) | 20:08 |
| Enrico___ | I know that I have messed something in the file structure. I was just cleaning MyDocs from a wrong expansion of some directory. | 20:08 |
| freemangordon | broken MyDocs should not prevent maemo from booting | 20:09 |
| Enrico___ | I know I changed something like the boot.scr file. | 20:09 |
| Enrico___ | But I don't remember where it is supposed to be. | 20:10 |
| enyc | freemangordon: may cause ages to complete boot properly, waiting for fsck nad stuff tho =) | 20:10 |
| Pali | if maemo does not boot => reflash device | 20:10 |
| freemangordon | Enrico___: but, as Pali said - you'd better flash it, both rootfs and eMMC | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | boot.scr isnt in mydocs? | 20:10 |
| Pali | doing all other things is vasting of time | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | unless you have some weird bootloader installed | 20:10 |
| Enrico___ | No boot.scr in mydocs. Or better: I think I substituted it with something else, wrong, while trying to install NITDroid. | 20:11 |
| freemangordon | ah | 20:12 |
| Enrico___ | Sorry, I know I am doing quite crazy things, I am just trying to understand. | 20:12 |
| freemangordon | so, what you can do is to flash the kernel only | 20:12 |
| freemangordon | it will replace u-boot | 20:12 |
| freemangordon | but you will be able to boot to maemo | 20:12 |
| freemangordon | where you can reinstal u-boot | 20:12 |
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| freemangordon | with flashing only the kernel you will not lose anything besides u-boot | 20:13 |
| Pali | if you have already uboot, then you can boot maemo via "run attachboot" | 20:13 |
| Enrico___ | But I think Maemo's kernel is ok. If I try from u-boot the first option, boot attached OS, it tries to start. | 20:13 |
| freemangordon | Pali: does that work if boot.scr is missing? | 20:13 |
| Pali | yes | 20:13 |
| freemangordon | ok | 20:14 |
| Enrico___ | Then it sits down and after a while it reboots. | 20:14 |
| freemangordon | Enrico___: then you have to flash it, sorry | 20:14 |
| Enrico___ | It's not a big problem - I don't have data inside. | 20:14 |
| Enrico___ | I am just trying to avoid it if it is not necessary. | 20:15 |
| freemangordon | then just flash it, boot rootfs and eMMC | 20:15 |
| freemangordon | *both | 20:15 |
| Pali | first eMMC and second COMBINED | 20:15 |
| freemangordon | Enrico___: yes, I see, but it doesn;t make much of a sense if there is no data you want to keep | 20:15 |
| Enrico___ | And I have a small problem: I reflashed one time from a Windows computer (installing the flasher on my Mac is a problem). It was very easy. But now the Windows doesn't see the device. | 20:16 |
| Enrico___ | On the Mac, at a very low level (I think), it appears. Tried the equivalent of lsusb (it's a quite complicated command on a Mac). And the device appears. | 20:16 |
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| Enrico___ | Now I have to understand if it is worth trying to install the flasher-3.5 on the Mac (I have some indications on how to do that, but it is complicated) and try to flash from there. | 20:17 |
| Enrico___ | What do you think about this? | 20:19 |
| KotCzarny | get some cheap old linux laptop | 20:22 |
| KotCzarny | with working usb ports | 20:22 |
| Enrico___ | It's an idea. But anyway, if the device is seen by lsusb it should be possible to flash it, right? | 20:23 |
| KotCzarny | depends on which stage it is, if it started to boot (time frame is <0.5s) it will change id | 20:24 |
| KotCzarny | that's why you start flasher first, then connect device which was fully powered off | 20:24 |
| Enrico___ | Yes, but I am able to enter update mode by holding u and starting the device. I think it enters correctly: I see the usb icon on the top right. | 20:26 |
| Enrico___ | I just don't understand why Win doesn't see it anymore and was wondering whether it be sufficient for the Mac (or for a Linux OS) to see it at low level. | 20:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~lazyflashing | 20:45 |
| infobot | lazyflashing is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach | 20:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | for linux. And yes, when you see device in lsusb and you have a working flasher and image, it is possible to reflash N900 | 20:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | usually, except for some very strange fringe cases | 20:48 |
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| Pali | because win and mac has slow usb enumeration which depends on couple of factors | 21:02 |
| Pali | when I was testing speed of enumeration I saw that only libusb0.1 on linux is usable for userspace... | 21:02 |
| KotCzarny | pali, does holding u during boot stops the device into update mode? | 21:02 |
| Pali | only if host starts enumeration | 21:03 |
| Pali | and needs to do some data transfer | 21:03 |
| Pali | iirc pressing U just extend delay for additional fixed internal | 21:03 |
| Pali | *interval | 21:04 |
| Enrico___ | Do you mean it's not a good idea to try with the Mac? | 21:10 |
| KotCzarny | can your mac run linux? | 21:10 |
| Enrico___ | I don't know. To me it seems quite a big work to get linux running. I was thinking about trying the flasher on the Mac, just to see if it sees the device. | 21:11 |
| Enrico___ | The problem is installing the flasher. It's not that easy. | 21:11 |
| freemangordon | Enrico___: not installing, but booting from live cd | 21:12 |
| freemangordon | or flash drive | 21:12 |
| Enrico___ | May you suggest a Linux distribution suitable for this? I admit I never really used Linux. | 21:12 |
| freemangordon | ubuntu | 21:12 |
| * freemangordon hides :) | 21:13 | |
| freemangordon | Enrico___: every distro will do the job | 21:13 |
| freemangordon | as long as it boots | 21:13 |
| Enrico___ | Ok, so how do I get it? Is it available from the Internet? | 21:13 |
| freemangordon | sure | 21:14 |
| Enrico___ | Sorry for silly questions, I'm a newbie to this. | 21:14 |
| freemangordon | yep, got it | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what's the problem with installing mac flasher? | 21:14 |
| freemangordon | Enrico___: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | did apple introduce friggin app signatures meanwhile? | 21:15 |
| Enrico___ | The problem is that the program, in older Macs, used to go to /usr/lib/ | 21:15 |
| freemangordon | Enrico___: also, see the not at the lower right corner re macs | 21:15 |
| Enrico___ | Now on my El Capitan OS /usr/lib is protected by System Integrity Protection. | 21:16 |
| freemangordon | *note | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah that's how they call that crap | 21:16 |
| Enrico___ | freemangordon: thanks! I will have a look at it! | 21:16 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: the problem is the fruit :) | 21:16 |
| freemangordon | Enrico___: can't you select another installation destination | 21:16 |
| freemangordon | ? | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on mac? | 21:17 |
| freemangordon | why not? | 21:17 |
| KotCzarny | or just change harddrive temporarily? | 21:17 |
| Enrico___ | I cannot from the installer. | 21:17 |
| freemangordon | never touched it | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no idea | 21:17 |
| Enrico___ | The installer just does not work. | 21:17 |
| Enrico___ | But I can extract the files. | 21:17 |
| freemangordon | can't you just extract the files? | 21:17 |
| Enrico___ | A man suggested me how to do that on stackexchange. | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess you doubleclick the flasher.blabla file and it starts installing | 21:17 |
| freemangordon | ok, then, place the binay in /usr/local/lib or whatever suitable | 21:18 |
| freemangordon | which is not crap protected | 21:18 |
| Enrico___ | Ok, I was just wondering about this solution. | 21:18 |
| Enrico___ | Do you think that /usr/local/lib would let the flasher work? | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: I *guess* that security crap also will stop access to USB | 21:18 |
| freemangordon | I see no reason why not, but keep in mind I have never ever touched mac | 21:19 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: makes sense | 21:19 |
| freemangordon | Enrico___: what I would sugges is - start downloadin ubuntu iso, while it is downloading, try to extract and run flasher in /usr/local/lib | 21:20 |
| Enrico___ | or /usr/local/bin? | 21:20 |
| freemangordon | if you fail, write that iso on dvd and boot from it | 21:20 |
| Enrico___ | There's an answer on stackexchange about SIP which mentions this location. | 21:21 |
| freemangordon | Enrico___: can't help, sorry, you have to try | 21:21 |
| Enrico___ | http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/193368/what-is-the-rootless-feature-in-el-capitan-really | 21:21 |
| freemangordon | hmm, "you can turn SIP off." | 21:23 |
| freemangordon | "Currently this requires rebooting into recovery mode and running the command csrutil disable" | 21:23 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: not that bad ^^^ | 21:23 |
| ravelo | freemangordon, how do i start porting? I know there is a long way to go... | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just read it | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so they have an 'open mode' ;-P | 21:27 |
| freemangordon | ravelo: install devuan under a VM, then try to build and run hildon-desktop from fremantle-gtk2 repo on github | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise: | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~aegis | 21:27 |
| infobot | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Developer_Library/Developing_for_Harmattan/Harmattan_security/Security_guide , or "The purpose of this framework is: ... to make sure that the platform meets the requirements set by third party software that requires a safe execution environment.", or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing#Criticism, or http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/1/10/ME_382_LockedUpTechnology2.gif | 21:27 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: but it really seems to be open | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 0.0.5 | 21:27 |
| Enrico___ | I would prefer the other alternatives than turning SIP off... | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, please don't | 21:27 |
| freemangordon | Enrico___: boot ubuntu then, if installing in /usr/local/bin does not work | 21:28 |
| freemangordon | ravelo: https://github.com/fremantle-gtk2/ | 21:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui you could "install" the flasher to any dir you like, and run it there, via sudo | 21:28 |
| ravelo | freemangordon, actually sounds quite simple | 21:28 |
| freemangordon | ravelo: keep in mind you should use "gtk2" or "upstream branches | 21:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, afk | 21:29 |
| freemangordon | ravelo: it is, the problem is there are a piles of packages you have to build and install | 21:29 |
| freemangordon | *a pile | 21:29 |
| freemangordon | we're waiting wor Wizzup/parazyd to create a repo on devuan servers with debs, but until then... | 21:30 |
| ravelo | Actually there still should be a wiki page about that | 21:30 |
| ravelo | currently there are only those threads on tmo | 21:30 |
| freemangordon | ravelo: agree, but that means somebody should do it :) | 21:30 |
| freemangordon | and I can;t both port and document and test and... | 21:31 |
| ravelo | sure | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | ravelo: feel free to write wiki page while you're trying to build h-d and hildon-status-menu | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | ravelo: keep in mind hildon-thumbnail and libhildonfm are WIP ATM | 21:32 |
| freemangordon | all other packages should be more or less ready, though I remember a guys having some problems a couple of weeks ago | 21:33 |
| freemangordon | *a guy | 21:33 |
| freemangordon | ravelo: also, I am using devuan x64, I'd recommend you to use the same as it increases the chances to catch some bugs that will not appear on 32bits | 21:34 |
| ravelo | ok | 21:34 |
| freemangordon | NeKit: do you remember what clutter env var needs to be set so hildon-desktop to start normally? | 21:35 |
| NeKit | yes | 21:35 |
| NeKit | CLUTTER_BACKEND=x11 | 21:35 |
| freemangordon | cool :). could you make a pull request for a modified h-d startup script? | 21:35 |
| freemangordon | here https://github.com/fremantle-gtk2/hildon-desktop/blob/gtk2-clutter-1.x/debian/hildon-desktop.init#L26 | 21:36 |
| ravelo | freemangordon, sry for on emore noob question. currently maemo sits on top of some debian, tightly integrated. apt-get is used to install packages. We want to port one application after another to Devuan, so the original maemo-package manager is no more used, at least at the beginning? | 21:37 |
| freemangordon | ravelo: what is that original maemo package manager? ham? | 21:38 |
| ravelo | hmm, i don't know | 21:38 |
| freemangordon | you mean hildon-application-manager UI? | 21:38 |
| NeKit | ok | 21:38 |
| freemangordon | as apt-get works ok in both maemo and devuan | 21:39 |
| freemangordon | NeKit: thanks | 21:39 |
| freemangordon | NeKit: hmm, wait, you don;t have a way to test that, right? you're using arch? | 21:40 |
| freemangordon | ravelo: in short - you build packages with dpkg-buildpackage, install with dpkg -i. that works in exactly the same way both under maemo and devuan | 21:41 |
| NeKit | yes, I can set up Devuan chroot though so I would be more useful, but testing init scripts will be hard without LXC, for example | 21:42 |
| freemangordon | NeKit: well, if you're interested, just install a VM | 21:42 |
| freemangordon | it is easy and native IMO | 21:43 |
| NeKit | you mean KVM on ARM? | 21:43 |
| NeKit | or on desktop? | 21:43 |
| Wizzup | 20:30 < freemangordon> we're waiting wor Wizzup/parazyd to create a repo on devuan servers with debs, but until then... | 21:43 |
| freemangordon | on desktop | 21:43 |
| Wizzup | there's still progress, but I'm still somewhat block on amprolla. I can do more work on this coming week(end) | 21:44 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: ok, I was just explaining the situation :) | 21:44 |
| freemangordon | NeKit: all the development I've done so far is under VMWare x64 devuan on my desktop | 21:44 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: ack, just elaborating as well :) | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | no need for arm at that point, unless you want to feel it :) | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | also, I don;t want to restrict maemo to ARM only, having intel as a target is a good option IMO | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | ravelo: also, please, if you see something broken (not compiling, installing, dependencies are missing, does not work), please raise an issue on github and eventually make a pull request with a fix | 21:47 |
| NeKit | <s>I have Intel with libhybris to try though</s> | 21:47 |
| freemangordon | how's clutter behaving with libhybris? you said you should tweak some stuff, right? | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | s/should/had to/ | 21:49 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: how's clutter behaving with libhybris? you said you had to tweak some stuff, right? | 21:49 |
| NeKit | with latest approach the problem I had is that hildon-desktop first starts in 800x600(?) window and then resizes to fullscreen | 21:52 |
| freemangordon | NeKit: window? thats weird | 21:56 |
| freemangordon | that might be the default resolution for clutter_stage | 21:56 |
| freemangordon | or maybe it is matchbox default resolution | 21:58 |
| freemangordon | though I don;t see such effect here | 21:59 |
| NeKit | part of clutter/cogl initialization, right | 21:59 |
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| ravelo | freemangordon, ok | 22:08 |
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