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| chatter29 | sun is not doing allah is doing | 07:46 |
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| bencoh | freemangordon: no experience with gio no | 09:43 |
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| KotCzarny | hrm | 09:47 |
| KotCzarny | what could be the reason of mass storage mode not working? | 09:47 |
| KotCzarny | when i connect cable, i click 'mass storage', but it stays at 'charging only' | 09:47 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: inability to umount (busy fs) maybe? | 09:48 |
| KotCzarny | when i do lsof|grep -i mydocs i dont see anything | 09:48 |
| bencoh | I'd suggest lsof -n | 09:48 |
| KotCzarny | opt is on different partition, right? | 09:48 |
| KotCzarny | so only something with 'mydocs' in the path should matter in such case | 09:49 |
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| KotCzarny | also, i can umount mydocs just fine from cmdline | 10:04 |
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| Enrico309 | Hello everybody. Need help with kernel boot. | 11:38 |
| Enrico309 | Please let me know if you can read me. | 11:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | What help do you require, you may have to hang about for an answer. | 11:42 |
| Enrico309 | Hello, thanks for answering. | 11:42 |
| Enrico309 | I have reflashed my N900, and installed u-boot. | 11:43 |
| Enrico309 | Then I was trying to install NITDroid, and messed up something. | 11:43 |
| Enrico309 | Now I can access u-boot console, but not the OS. | 11:43 |
| Enrico309 | I have been able to put the kernel image on a sd card and make it start. | 11:44 |
| Enrico309 | But when it starts it sits for a while and then reboots. | 11:44 |
| Enrico309 | I nedd help on how to set the system in order for Maemo to properly start. | 11:44 |
| Enrico309 | Note: I cannot reflash the device, since it is not recognised by my computer anymore. | 11:45 |
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| Enrico309 | Hi Pali, are you the developer of u-boot for the N900? | 11:49 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ~nitdroid | 12:13 |
| infobot | [nitdroid] Nokia Internet Tablets with android OS. Support on nitdroid is provided in the channel #nitdroid and #nitdroid-help and Nokia does not officially support owners with android OS on their tablets. For more information read here: http://nitdroid.com/index.php?title=NITDroid_project. If you have bricked your N900 device and have installed nitdroid, flash with both eMMC and fiasco. | 12:13 |
| Enrico309 | I cannot flash because the device is not recognised by my computer anymore. | 12:15 |
| KotCzarny | ~flashing | 12:15 |
| infobot | from memory, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing | 12:15 |
| KotCzarny | try that script | 12:15 |
| Enrico309 | Sorry, I don't understand what ~flashing means. | 12:16 |
| KotCzarny | download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 12:17 |
| KotCzarny | dont forget that you have to power off n900 and connect it to your machine after you get prompted AND without turning it on | 12:18 |
| Enrico309 | I was trying to use the flasher-3.5. I have been able to install it on Windows Vista. | 12:19 |
| Enrico309 | The problem is that the device is not recognised. | 12:19 |
| freemangordon | anybody knowing sparql? | 12:20 |
| KotCzarny | Enrico309: better find some old laptop and install 32bit linux | 12:20 |
| freemangordon | or boot 32bit linux from falsh drive/cd | 12:21 |
| KotCzarny | or just run some 32bit livecd linux | 12:21 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 12:21 |
| freemangordon | *flash | 12:21 |
| Enrico309 | Ok, but please let me know... does this script require the flasher-3.5? | 12:21 |
| freemangordon | most probably | 12:21 |
| KotCzarny | it includes everything you need | 12:21 |
| KotCzarny | flasher and flashing images | 12:21 |
| Enrico309 | Ok, I will have a look at it. | 12:22 |
| KotCzarny | fmg, got an idea why mass storage isnt working on n900? even after clicking on requester it stays in charge only | 12:23 |
| sixwheeledbeast | The lazy script above is a shell script IIRC so not for windows. | 12:27 |
| Enrico309 | Yes, I have also a Mac. The problem is that I cannot install the flasher there. | 12:27 |
| KotCzarny | see 'livecd' | 12:28 |
| Enrico309 | Ok, first thing I will do is to open the .sh script with the Mac and look at what's going on there. | 12:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Also issues may occur detecting device with a USB hub, make sure you use a USB port directly. Ones on the back. | 12:29 |
| Enrico309 | I have a laptop - no USB ports on the back. Just on sides. | 12:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#Mac_OS_X ? | 12:30 |
| Enrico309 | But before bricking it, the device was recognised. | 12:30 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: what os? | 12:31 |
| KotCzarny | fmg, stock, but it was working before and i dont remember installing or changing anything in the meantime | 12:31 |
| freemangordon | I mean - what OS is on the PC | 12:31 |
| KotCzarny | fmg, probably android, or some tv os | 12:32 |
| freemangordon | does it work when connected to some "normal" PC? | 12:33 |
| KotCzarny | let me check | 12:33 |
| freemangordon | Enrico309: what happened so you've bricked it? | 12:33 |
| freemangordon | Enrico309: depending on the type of "brick" you may need to cold-flash it | 12:35 |
| freemangordon | flasher-3.5 will do the job, but it is tricky | 12:35 |
| freemangordon | ~cold-flash | 12:35 |
| KotCzarny | when connected to pc no reaction | 12:35 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: you're sure USB cable is ok? | 12:35 |
| KotCzarny | could it be a symptom of usb port dying? | 12:35 |
| freemangordon | yes, but you'd better check with other USB cable first | 12:36 |
| freemangordon | ~ping | 12:36 |
| infobot | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss | 12:36 |
| freemangordon | ~cold-flashing | 12:36 |
| freemangordon | grrr | 12:36 |
| KotCzarny | when i rebooted there was is some activity in device manager | 12:36 |
| KotCzarny | and got usb type requester, but clicking on 'mass storage' doesnt change anything | 12:37 |
| KotCzarny | so i assume cable is ok, but os somehow fails to initialize the gadget maybe | 12:38 |
| bencoh | err what do you mean by "not recognized anymore" by the way? | 12:38 |
| bencoh | ah | 12:38 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: looks like, you'd better boot some linux and check what dmesg says | 12:39 |
| KotCzarny | btw. there was g_ether loaded | 12:39 |
| Enrico309 | I was moving files on the directory structure from the terminal. | 12:39 |
| KotCzarny | after removing it there was some activity in device manager | 12:39 |
| freemangordon | Enrico309: see https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware/Cold_Flashing | 12:40 |
| KotCzarny | http://pastebin.com/raw/fCX19WCn | 12:41 |
| KotCzarny | dmesg bit from n900 | 12:41 |
| Enrico309 | I already tried the cold flash. The device is not seen by the computer. | 12:41 |
| Enrico309 | (Again, this on Windows.) | 12:41 |
| Enrico309 | I will manage to do something with the Mac. | 12:42 |
| Enrico309 | But first I would like to know how to communicate with the device. | 12:42 |
| KotCzarny | how can i change usb mode from cmdline on n900? | 12:44 |
| KotCzarny | ie. start mass storage | 12:44 |
| freemangordon | Enrico309: as I said, it is tricky, you only have about 200-300ms for the detection | 12:44 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: ass long as g_mass_storage is loaded, it should be fine | 12:45 |
| KotCzarny | fmg: it doesnt need some configuration? | 12:45 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: again, get dmesg log from host PC | 12:45 |
| freemangordon | well, it needs, but it should be done | 12:45 |
| KotCzarny | you mean g_file_storage ? | 12:46 |
| freemangordon | check in /sbin/osso-usb-mass-storage.sh or somesuch | 12:46 |
| freemangordon | yep | 12:46 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, running osso-usb-mass-storage-enable.sh from cmdline made it work | 12:47 |
| freemangordon | Enrico309: by the time I had windoze XP here, it was taking 8-10 cable reconnects so cold-flash detection to work | 12:47 |
| freemangordon | and knowing vista is way heavier... | 12:47 |
| freemangordon | I guess it just doesn't manage to install the needed driver before it is too late | 12:48 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: weird | 12:48 |
| Enrico309 | Ok, let's say I work on the Mac. How may I communicate with the device? | 12:50 |
| Enrico309 | And I read the flash-it-all script. It just makes use of the flasher-3.5. I am able to do that without the script. | 12:51 |
| KotCzarny | fmg, is it normal to have g_ether loaded on boot? | 12:51 |
| Enrico309 | Just, I don't have the flasher on the Mac. | 12:51 |
| KotCzarny | said 'works' too early, it loaded, i see drives in 'my computer' but they arent accessible. and i see 'charging only' in the systray | 12:53 |
| KotCzarny | and mydocs is mounted still | 12:53 |
| KotCzarny | (on n900) | 12:53 |
| KotCzarny | it's as it fails to configure file to export | 12:58 |
| KotCzarny | hum, might be that script needs param passed | 12:58 |
| freemangordon | Enrico309: I doubt flash-it-all script will help if 1st stage loader is broken, you should do cold-flash by hand | 12:59 |
| freemangordon | Enrico309: also, I can't help with anything apple :) | 12:59 |
| Pali | Enrico309: pong | 12:59 |
| Pali | see mailbox | 12:59 |
| Maxdamantus | btw, it's definitely not going to work (at least not safely) if you have any files/directories open from the MyDocs mount. | 12:59 |
| KotCzarny | maxd: lsof shows nothing | 13:00 |
| KotCzarny | at least on lsof|grep -i mydocs | 13:00 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: do you still have terminal opened? | 13:00 |
| Maxdamantus | lsof isn't necessarily reliable. | 13:00 |
| KotCzarny | and as i've said, i can umount mydocs without a problem | 13:00 |
| Maxdamantus | Hm, okay. | 13:00 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: you could try to rmmod g_file_storage by hand, then load it by hand with the correct parameters | 13:01 |
| freemangordon | and do "echo /dev/whatevermydocspartis > /sys/..." | 13:02 |
| Maxdamantus | .. and hope that maemo doesn't automatically mount it again. | 13:02 |
| freemangordon | sorry, can't remember the /sys/ path for g_file_storage parameters | 13:02 |
| Maxdamantus | If you've rmmodded it, you can just pass in the parameters as you modprobe it again. | 13:03 |
| Maxdamantus | modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk... | 13:03 |
| freemangordon | Maxdamantus: maemo usee LUNS=2 | 13:03 |
| freemangordon | *uses | 13:03 |
| freemangordon | but yeah, maybe it is possible to provide files to be exported on cmdline | 13:04 |
| freemangordon | Pali: so, upstream replacement for tracker-client is tracker-sparql, right? | 13:04 |
| Pali | I really do not know | 13:05 |
| freemangordon | do you know SPARQL? | 13:05 |
| Maxdamantus | The luns parameter seems to just specify a maximum number of luns, so that shouldn't be a problem. | 13:05 |
| freemangordon | hmm, right | 13:05 |
| Maxdamantus | afaik maemo will usually only have 1 anyway. | 13:06 |
| freemangordon | no, my maemo usualy has 2 :) | 13:06 |
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| Maxdamantus | Heh. | 13:06 |
| freemangordon | mydocs and vfat partotion on uSD :) | 13:06 |
| freemangordon | *partition | 13:06 |
| Maxdamantus | My maemo usually doesn't use g_file_storage or FAT at all. | 13:06 |
| freemangordon | ssh is too slow | 13:07 |
| freemangordon | to copy a video file for example | 13:07 |
| Maxdamantus | If I need to copy a single large file I'll just use netcat and pipe it to dd with oflags=sync after remounting the filesystem with -o sync | 13:08 |
| Maxdamantus | If I need to copy lots of large files I'll probably just run an rsync server somewhere. | 13:08 |
| Maxdamantus | er, lots of small files* | 13:08 |
| freemangordon | doesn't work (in real-time) if you want to copy some movie downloaded on your PC to n900 (connected to TV set) :) | 13:10 |
| KotCzarny | tinysmb? | 13:10 |
| KotCzarny | quite nice and works like a charm | 13:10 |
| freemangordon | no way you can achieve 15MB/s over the wifi | 13:10 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 13:10 |
| Maxdamantus | I meant over g_ether. | 13:11 |
| Maxdamantus | If it's over wifi I won't bother with the sync stuff because the filesystem will be fast enough anyway. | 13:11 |
| freemangordon | ah | 13:11 |
| freemangordon | g_ether | 13:11 |
| freemangordon | still, it is slower and more complicated | 13:12 |
| Maxdamantus | I'd usually just transfer one-off small things over ssh/wifi. | 13:12 |
| freemangordon | but yeah, will do the job | 13:12 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, i've added some debug to /usr/sbin/osso-usb-mass-storage-enable.sh , but it apparently isnt called at all | 13:12 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: ke-recv is running? | 13:12 |
| KotCzarny | yea | 13:13 |
| freemangordon | try to restart it | 13:13 |
| KotCzarny | i get usb mode dialog so it should be | 13:13 |
| freemangordon | also, iirc there is some verbose debug ke-recv cmdline switch | 13:14 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ how to enable verbose logging in ke-recv? | 13:14 |
| KotCzarny | no banana | 13:15 |
| Pali | freemangordon: logging is in syslog | 13:19 |
| KotCzarny | maybe it's time to upgrade to cssu | 13:19 |
| KotCzarny | still, would be nice to know where it fails now | 13:20 |
| Pali | and you probably need to add #define DEBUG at the begining of affected file | 13:20 |
| Pali | ke-recv uses osso-log.h for logging | 13:20 |
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| freemangordon | KotCzarny: wait, what?!? | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | you're not on cssu? | 13:26 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | no more help for you :p | 13:27 |
| freemangordon | until you install cssu | 13:27 |
| KotCzarny | ok, ok, i'm upgrading, i just hope it wont fry my n900 :P | 13:27 |
| KotCzarny | ~cssu | 13:27 |
| infobot | [cssu] http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) | 13:27 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: jump on -thumb | 13:27 |
| KotCzarny | would i get help if i go cssu-thumb thouhg :P | 13:27 |
| freemangordon | sure :) | 13:28 |
| KotCzarny | k | 13:28 |
| KotCzarny | hrm, ham says i have cssu-testing enabled | 13:33 |
| KotCzarny | did i go cssu in the past and forgot about it? | 13:34 |
| KotCzarny | oh, and btw. when i click update in ham it tries to force me to backup, and there is no 'skip backup' button | 13:36 |
| KotCzarny | mp-fremantle-community-pr 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1.2 | 13:37 |
| KotCzarny | oh, 'continue' button was missing because of the pkg conflicts. fixed them and now i can update to cssu-testing11 | 13:47 |
| KotCzarny | would be nice to have more intuitive notification why i can't continue (it was only in update details tab) | 13:48 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: once you have CSSU installed, you will have that "more intuitive notification" :) | 13:50 |
| freemangordon | iirc | 13:50 |
| KotCzarny | fmg, it looks like i had cssu-testing 1.2 | 13:50 |
| freemangordon | which is how old? | 13:50 |
| KotCzarny | and now i recall i wasnt able to skip the 'create backup' because 'continue' was missing | 13:51 |
| KotCzarny | 5 years old ;) | 13:51 |
| KotCzarny | it's updating (and nuked my wifi/ssh connection in the process, so fingers crossed) | 13:55 |
| freemangordon | :) | 13:55 |
| KotCzarny | can i jump onto cassu-thumb from cssu-testing? | 13:56 |
| freemangordon | yes | 13:58 |
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| KotCzarny | wtf, it came in portrait mode after reboot o.O | 14:00 |
| freemangordon | well, it happens | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | just reboot once again | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | there is bug somewhere in hildon-desktop | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | unless you have locked it in portrait mode | 14:01 |
| KotCzarny | half of the icons are missed | 14:01 |
| KotCzarny | k, reboot | 14:02 |
| freemangordon | keep the kbd opened, just in case | 14:02 |
| KotCzarny | portrait again | 14:03 |
| KotCzarny | opening kb didnt switch to landscape | 14:03 |
| freemangordon | you have locked your device in portait :) | 14:04 |
| KotCzarny | k, how do i get to normal? | 14:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I found an amusing bug I couldn't reproduce that had the device switching portrait landscape in a loop :) | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | my neck is starting to be in pain | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | oh | 14:05 |
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| freemangordon | install ... ummm... | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | it came to landscape by itself now | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | automagically | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | maybe it was still booting | 14:05 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: orientation-lock-applet | 14:06 |
| KotCzarny | mhm, i seem to have this before update | 14:06 |
| KotCzarny | now its missing | 14:06 |
| freemangordon | yes, because it is not a part of cssu anymore | 14:06 |
| freemangordon | but you can install it from HAM | 14:06 |
| KotCzarny | uhum | 14:07 |
| KotCzarny | imo it should be included | 14:07 |
| freemangordon | it was decided against | 14:07 |
| freemangordon | can't remember why | 14:07 |
| KotCzarny | what was the reasining? | 14:07 |
| KotCzarny | *reasoning | 14:07 |
| freemangordon | can't remember | 14:07 |
| KotCzarny | it's part of the general ui experience | 14:08 |
| freemangordon | it was some political reasoning :) | 14:08 |
| KotCzarny | the worst kind | 14:08 |
| KotCzarny | anything else is missing that i should reinstall? | 14:08 |
| freemangordon | NFC | 14:08 |
| freemangordon | how am I supposed to know what you have had installed on your device :) | 14:09 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: does mass-storage work? | 14:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | because it's not in stock maemo | 14:10 |
| freemangordon | yeah, some kind of that | 14:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast | If you are not interested in portrait then is clutter. | 14:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I can understand why it's optional | 14:11 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 14:11 |
| KotCzarny | most phone with accelerometer usually allow user to decide which mode should be uses port/land/auto | 14:11 |
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| freemangordon | KotCzarny: but not stock n900 | 14:12 |
| KotCzarny | so if you cant configure it in the os, it seems like your phone is missing something | 14:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | n900 is not most phones tho... | 14:12 |
| KotCzarny | it's definitely a feature | 14:12 |
| KotCzarny | which isnt essential to have, but nice one | 14:12 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: nothing stops you from installing it | 14:13 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 14:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | It's an optional extra as you could use gconf to keep the status menu uncluttered. | 14:13 |
| freemangordon | it is there, just not pushed forcefully | 14:13 |
| KotCzarny | its something that should go into setting panel | 14:13 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: however, does mass-storage work now? | 14:13 |
| KotCzarny | let me check | 14:14 |
| KotCzarny | nope. clicking usb mode button in status menu and selecting 'mass storage' didnt do the trick | 14:14 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: BTW, is fsck finished? | 14:14 |
| KotCzarny | still shows 'charging only' | 14:14 |
| KotCzarny | yup, no fsck in ps | 14:15 |
| freemangordon | try another USB cable | 14:15 |
| freemangordon | also, I have a similar problem with my dev n900 when connected to some of the USB ports on my PC | 14:16 |
| KotCzarny | cable should be fine, because i see mass storage drives, just unconfigured | 14:16 |
| freemangordon | ah | 14:16 |
| freemangordon | seems you have something installed that messes with it | 14:16 |
| KotCzarny | any clue what to search for? | 14:17 |
| freemangordon | which gadget module is loaded? | 14:19 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: ^^^ | 14:23 |
| freemangordon | when you connect USB cable that is | 14:23 |
| KotCzarny | g_ether | 14:26 |
| freemangordon | should be g_file_storage | 14:26 |
| freemangordon | wait | 14:26 |
| freemangordon | g_ether? | 14:26 |
| freemangordon | who loads that? | 14:26 |
| KotCzarny | good question | 14:26 |
| freemangordon | should be either g_nokia or g_file_storage | 14:26 |
| freemangordon | iirc | 14:27 |
| KotCzarny | umkay, found it | 14:27 |
| freemangordon | hmm? | 14:27 |
| KotCzarny | apparently i've modified rcS | 14:27 |
| freemangordon | :D | 14:27 |
| KotCzarny | 2 years ago | 14:27 |
| KotCzarny | i've even added comments in the file ;) | 14:28 |
| KotCzarny | just forgot about it | 14:28 |
| freemangordon | cool | 14:28 |
| KotCzarny | oh well, at least i'm on updated cssu thanks to it ;) | 14:28 |
| freemangordon | you may jump to thumb | 14:28 |
| KotCzarny | yup, will comment out my changes and see if i get mass storage back | 14:29 |
| KotCzarny | ugh, still doesnt work | 14:32 |
| KotCzarny | no gagdets loaded at all now | 14:32 |
| KotCzarny | oh 'device storage in use' | 14:33 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: you have changed more things I guess | 14:33 |
| freemangordon | aah | 14:33 |
| freemangordon | well, close all terminals | 14:33 |
| KotCzarny | all closed | 14:33 |
| KotCzarny | only ssh open | 14:33 |
| freemangordon | in which dir? | 14:34 |
| KotCzarny | ~ | 14:34 |
| freemangordon | well, something holds mydocs opened | 14:34 |
| KotCzarny | huh | 14:34 |
| KotCzarny | now when i clicked 'mass storage' it worked, mysterious. | 14:34 |
| freemangordon | fsck? | 14:35 |
| KotCzarny | maybe, will try rebooting in a moment | 14:35 |
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| bencoh | KotCzarny: wait, so now you're using cssu? | 14:46 |
| KotCzarny | apparently i have installed cssu-testing at some point in the past | 14:46 |
| KotCzarny | somewhere around 2012 ;) | 14:46 |
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| KotCzarny | it feels good to organize photos in win7 explorer | 14:56 |
| KotCzarny | hum, mydocs didnt get remounted after cable disconnect | 15:07 |
| KotCzarny | oh, it did. fsck again then? | 15:08 |
| KotCzarny | maybe there should be a statusbar icon to show when mydocs is running/fsck is running ;) | 15:08 |
| KotCzarny | 'unable to update 'cssu-thumb', conflivting packages: curl (7,26.0-1maemo1+0cssu1), the heck? | 15:17 |
| KotCzarny | WOW | 15:35 |
| KotCzarny | 75Megs of ram free after upgrading to thumb | 15:35 |
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| freemangordon | KotCzarny: hmm, thats too much | 16:46 |
| KotCzarny | i'm not complaining ;) | 16:47 |
| freemangordon | or wait, what was the amount of free ram before? | 16:47 |
| KotCzarny | at the moment 42M free, 80M cached, 46M swapped | 16:47 |
| freemangordon | is there SIM card in that device? | 16:47 |
| KotCzarny | yes, it's my main phone that i use daily | 16:48 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, ham says 'no updates available', apt-get upgrade says few pkgs are available | 17:08 |
| Sicelo | ham does not show updates for packages that you cannot install from ham to begin with | 17:09 |
| KotCzarny | it sucks a bit then | 17:10 |
| Sicelo | maybe in red pill mode it's better? never tried it | 17:11 |
| KotCzarny | will just do some housekeeping with apt-get | 17:11 |
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| dfrtf | sun is not doing allah is doing | 17:31 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 glares at sigyn | 17:33 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and at chanserv and ACL | 17:33 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | m.o down for anyone else? | 21:43 |
| KotCzarny | wfm | 21:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: | 21:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/talk.maemo.org | 22:32 |
| KotCzarny | he asked for m.o, not t.m.o | 22:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm so happy my /ignore works... not | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what you learned: I like to provide gebneric info, not answers made as piecemeal. And those who can see this are the smarter half | 22:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also you learned: not everybody adores Captain Obvious | 22:36 |
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| KotCzarny | he asked for a simple yes/no, not a snotty response that was also wrong (since site might seem up, yet, broken) | 22:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | FU! | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *plonk* | 22:39 |
| bencoh | sigh | 22:40 |
| bencoh | anyway, m.o works from here | 22:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what I really love are twits that think they need to correct answers of others since they are not exactly what those twits would want to see | 22:42 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: bookmark this thingie: http://monitor.maemo.org/ganglia/?c=maemo&m=load_one&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2 | 22:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | He didn't ask for that!!! idiot! | 22:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | also that's >>a snotty response that was also wrong (since site might seem up, yet, broken)<< | 22:45 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders what makes people think others are even more stupid than themselves. When a "wfm" already answered the question if a site is up, how would anybody in their sane mind even assume an URL posted a 30 minutes later was >>a snotty response<< to the original question | 22:51 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | unless of course they conclude from themselves to others | 23:01 |
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| peetah | ~sb | 23:48 |
| infobot | somebody said scratchbox was a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 23:48 |
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