| buZz | so eh, do i need to install something to gain USB host? | 00:14 |
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| buZz | ah 'usb mode' | 00:19 |
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| Juesto | is there a good RDP client ? | 01:11 |
| Juesto | for maemo ofc | 01:12 |
| buZz | rdesktop ? | 01:17 |
| buZz | its the only one i know (on linux) | 01:17 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Presence? | 01:50 |
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| LjL | make me a program to automatically IR blast a volume lowering command to the TV when the microphone registers excess loudness | 02:30 |
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| Juesto | buzz: it is available in maemo? how good it is? | 02:47 |
| Juesto | sixwheeledbeast: how good is that one, isnt that a vnc client? | 02:47 |
| buZz | Juesto: its in apt-get | 02:51 |
| buZz | no clue what you consider 'good' :P | 02:51 |
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| Juesto | as in, how it is the perfomance, what protocol version it supports, etc buZz | 02:57 |
| buZz | no clue, check it out | 03:01 |
| Juesto | Dont have a maemo :/ | 03:01 |
| buZz | afaik its available on nearly all linux distros | 03:03 |
| Juesto | not really a linux user either, sorry | 03:03 |
| buZz | oh ok | 03:03 |
| buZz | then why the enquiry? | 03:04 |
| Juesto | nevermind then... its just that i am evaluating something about RDP :) | 03:04 |
| Juesto | specifically on maemo | 03:04 |
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| buZz | ok | 03:05 |
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| Oksanaa | Empty package pool/free/d/db4.2/db4.2-util_4.2.52+dfsg-5maemo1+0cssu0+thumb0_armel.deb Where are the binaries? | 04:04 |
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| Juesto | hmm, check internet oksanaa ? | 05:01 |
| * Juesto sighs | 05:01 | |
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| freemangordon | Juesto: you may try our upstream maemo porting branch then | 08:59 |
| Juesto | Hmm, interesting | 08:59 |
| Juesto | i like to test stuff so i guess it fits | 08:59 |
| Juesto | i fit* | 08:59 |
| freemangordon | but without having a real device, I doubt you'll get a corrrect impression | 08:59 |
| freemangordon | Juesto: we have a WIP maemo rebased on top of devuan | 09:00 |
| freemangordon | but there is more ork to be done | 09:00 |
| freemangordon | *work | 09:00 |
| freemangordon | however, you can install devuan in a VM and install the packages on top | 09:01 |
| Juesto | cool, i'll give that a shot and give feedback | 09:01 |
| freemangordon | you'll have a booting hildon-desktop and hildon-status-menu | 09:01 |
| Juesto | sounds good? | 09:01 |
| freemangordon | nothing more than those 2 so far | 09:01 |
| freemangordon | I am REing a closed blob needed for hildon-home (the one that takes care for desktop applets) | 09:02 |
| Juesto | so yes, i think maemo is a nice mobile os and its good to have alternatives like this :) | 09:02 |
| freemangordon | Juesto: https://github.com/fremantle-gtk2/ | 09:02 |
| freemangordon | but be warned, it is far from being fully functional | 09:02 |
| Juesto | lets go slow please, i'll begin by downloading devuan... | 09:03 |
| Juesto | but good to know | 09:03 |
| Juesto | no problem, about a real device i can see a bit over vnc.... | 09:03 |
| Juesto | just others experience helps then | 09:03 |
| freemangordon | Juesto: sure, I'll help, maemo really needs more devs to work on rebasing over a modern distro | 09:04 |
| Juesto | Funny enough i visited devuan website yesterday | 09:04 |
| Juesto | ...for the first time | 09:04 |
| freemangordon | :) | 09:04 |
| Juesto | better 32 bits? | 09:05 |
| Juesto | 32 bits only* | 09:05 |
| freemangordon | I tested 64bits only | 09:05 |
| freemangordon | but it should work on 32bits as well | 09:05 |
| Juesto | are they :i386 packages? | 09:05 |
| freemangordon | there are no debs, you should dpkg-buildpackage them | 09:06 |
| Juesto | hmm | 09:06 |
| freemangordon | yep, source code only so far, hopefully there will be a repo soon | 09:06 |
| Juesto | i'll try 32 bits because why not :) | 09:06 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: ^^^ | 09:06 |
| freemangordon | yep, why not | 09:06 |
| Juesto | tbh, im not used to compile stuff from source on *nix | 09:07 |
| freemangordon | Juesto: it is really easy | 09:08 |
| Juesto | good to know | 09:09 |
| freemangordon | building a debian package is a matter if "git checkout, cd $dir, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b" | 09:09 |
| Juesto | nice | 09:09 |
| freemangordon | if there are missing dependensies you're given a list and you install those with "apt-get install $missing_packages" | 09:09 |
| freemangordon | that's it | 09:10 |
| Juesto | also dont like gentoo because you have to work hardly with the os compiling everything btw | 09:10 |
| Juesto | and arch because lack of installer | 09:10 |
| freemangordon | never tried it, coming from windoze, I prefer ubuntu and debian :) | 09:11 |
| Juesto | yep me too | 09:11 |
| Juesto | mainly a windows user | 09:11 |
| * freemangordon not anymore | 09:11 | |
| Juesto | used *buntu and mac | 09:12 |
| freemangordon | I replaced XP with ubuntu | 09:12 |
| freemangordon | some 3 years ago | 09:12 |
| Juesto | nice | 09:12 |
| Juesto | whats your time zone btw? | 09:12 |
| freemangordon | gmt+2 | 09:12 |
| Juesto | country? | 09:13 |
| freemangordon | bulgaria | 09:13 |
| Juesto | gmt -3 and argentina here | 09:13 |
| freemangordon | not that bad, 5 hours only | 09:13 |
| Juesto | great to know, good morning to you | 09:13 |
| freemangordon | thanks | 09:13 |
| Juesto | im kind of "living" aussie time lately | 09:13 |
| freemangordon | Juesto: BTW, you may want to check videos on http://46.249.74.23/allwinner/ | 09:14 |
| Juesto | anyways, for anything gui np launching a listen for me if needed? | 09:14 |
| freemangordon | this is maemo gtk3 port (WIP) working on some cheapo chinese allwinner tablet | 09:15 |
| Juesto | wow awesome | 09:15 |
| freemangordon | Juesto: not sure I inderstood your question, however, if you have problems feel free to ping and ask me | 09:15 |
| freemangordon | *understood | 09:15 |
| Juesto | if something gui-wise is needed to show because of a bug of whatever, dont mind launching a vnc server thats connects to my listen viewer? | 09:16 |
| freemangordon | there is no much gui to see so far, unfortunately | 09:17 |
| Juesto | i meant something from maemo itself | 09:17 |
| freemangordon | yep, got it | 09:17 |
| Juesto | cool :) | 09:17 |
| freemangordon | toldya, this is still WIP, there are no usable (maemo) applications so far | 09:17 |
| freemangordon | ofc you can start whatever application from devuan, but it won;t be "hildonized" | 09:18 |
| Juesto | hehe | 09:18 |
| Juesto | :) | 09:18 |
| Juesto | well, then why not trying out apps from maemo repo? ;p | 09:19 |
| freemangordon | because they are armel ;) | 09:19 |
| Juesto | i mean, the nokia sdk... well | 09:19 |
| Juesto | some apps work like gnome policy editor | 09:19 |
| freemangordon | the same, they have dependencies to maemo packages so far not ported | 09:20 |
| Juesto | interesting, i could run stuff | 09:20 |
| freemangordon | remember, WIP :) | 09:20 |
| Juesto | and some skins worked too but buggy | 09:20 |
| Juesto | lol | 09:20 |
| freemangordon | Juesto: also, you'll have to install some n900 theme from maemo repos | 09:21 |
| Juesto | and some basic deps like hildon python werent available | 09:21 |
| freemangordon | and copy backgrounds from n900 device itself | 09:21 |
| Juesto | unlike the sdk the default one isnt shipped? | 09:21 |
| Juesto | Meh | 09:21 |
| freemangordon | no idea how you'll get access to one :) | 09:21 |
| Juesto | I guess i could get a copy of some n900-only stuff | 09:21 |
| freemangordon | sure, this is the right channel | 09:21 |
| freemangordon | :) | 09:21 |
| * freemangordon is back to REing of osso-bookmarks-engine | 09:22 | |
| Juesto | is the kernel selection important ? | 09:58 |
| Juesto | freemangordon: ^ | 09:58 |
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| freemangordon | Juesto: shouldn;t be, my VM is with 3.16.0-4-amd64, default that comes with the distro | 10:00 |
| Juesto | and the drivers one? | 10:01 |
| freemangordon | for the VM? I installed nothing on top | 10:02 |
| Juesto | oh and im using the textual installer because i find the gui annoying | 10:02 |
| freemangordon | should be ok | 10:02 |
| Juesto | i mean, generic vs targeted drivers | 10:02 |
| Juesto | nvm, im running expert installer :D | 10:02 |
| freemangordon | generic | 10:02 |
| freemangordon | actually you need only shell and a working network connection | 10:02 |
| freemangordon | to start | 10:02 |
| Juesto | Then i should have used the net install | 10:03 |
| Juesto | lol | 10:03 |
| freemangordon | you'll apt-get install git, debhelper etc later with apt-get | 10:03 |
| Juesto | this is the cd version | 10:03 |
| freemangordon | I used cd version | 10:03 |
| freemangordon | but choose to not install any DE, IIRC | 10:03 |
| Juesto | neither x? | 10:03 |
| freemangordon | yep | 10:04 |
| jonwil | hi | 10:04 |
| freemangordon | I installed it later | 10:04 |
| Juesto | lol i prefer xfce :) | 10:04 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: hi | 10:04 |
| Juesto | hi there | 10:04 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: wanna help https://github.com/community-ssu/osso-bookmark-engine/tree/master/src ? | 10:04 |
| freemangordon | :p | 10:04 |
| jonwil | Any particular reason to clone the bookmark code? :) | 10:04 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: lots of | 10:05 |
| Juesto | proprietary mainly | 10:05 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: it is needed by hildon-home. and is the ugliest and the bugiest code I've ever seen | 10:05 |
| jonwil | ok | 10:05 |
| Juesto | freemangordon: that server is yours? the 46 one | 10:06 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: and I am ~100%sure it is the reason for memleaks in hildon-home | 10:06 |
| jonwil | sounds good then | 10:06 |
| freemangordon | Juesto: well, not server, my home PC is that | 10:06 |
| Juesto | >apache server :P | 10:06 |
| freemangordon | yes, my PC | 10:07 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: if you look at the original code, you'll feel a urgent need to puke, honestly, it is beyond any imagination. Wanna IDA projects? | 10:08 |
| Juesto | make me | 10:09 |
| jonwil | I got other things to do right now so I dont think I can help with the bookmark code | 10:09 |
| freemangordon | ok | 10:09 |
| freemangordon | Juesto: hmm? | 10:09 |
| * Juesto wants to look at the code :p | 10:09 | |
| Juesto | i guess i am just curious | 10:10 |
| Juesto | ...too curious | 10:10 |
| freemangordon | Juesto: a small example https://pastehistory.com/paste/_9GJdS9yxam6 | 10:11 |
| freemangordon | it is like that all over the place | 10:11 |
| Juesto | Definitely... a bit too much of the same thing :D | 10:12 |
| Juesto | too much if, can be cleaner | 10:12 |
| Juesto | And i guess i'll register on maemo.org | 10:13 |
| freemangordon | no, the problem is - what will happen if there is no "//" in the parameter string | 10:13 |
| freemangordon | ? | 10:13 |
| Juesto | o_O | 10:13 |
| jonwil | Are there any other libraries used by hildon-* that aren't yet cloned or open? | 10:13 |
| freemangordon | dunno | 10:13 |
| Juesto | yeah i dont write code but im geeky enough to understand with some explanation... ;) | 10:13 |
| Juesto | Nevermind | 10:14 |
| freemangordon | I hit that one when I tried to compile hildon-home in 64bit devuan VM | 10:14 |
| Juesto | hmm | 10:14 |
| Juesto | definitely messy things if no comments :p | 10:14 |
| freemangordon | Juesto: this is IDA re-ed code, no commnts ofc | 10:15 |
| freemangordon | however | 10:15 |
| Juesto | hehe | 10:15 |
| Juesto | registered to garage | 10:16 |
| Juesto | WTF tasksel failed | 10:18 |
| Juesto | yeah apparently selecting more than one DE causes it to fail | 10:19 |
| Juesto | how long until garage and main site user sync? | 10:20 |
| freemangordon | no idea | 10:21 |
| freemangordon | also, you may need admin approval, can;t remember | 10:21 |
| Juesto | lol how do i start network | 10:24 |
| Juesto | i should join #devuan or ##linux | 10:24 |
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| jonwil | Spotted a few libraries used by hildon-* that aren't FOSS yet | 11:02 |
| jonwil | hildon-home needs osso-bookmark-engine of course | 11:02 |
| jonwil | hildon-thumbnail needs libplayback | 11:02 |
| jonwil | hildon-control-panel needs libcodelockui (which is partially cloned but not finished yet) | 11:03 |
| jonwil | and hildon-desktop needs libcail (whatever that is) | 11:03 |
| jonwil | going off http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages in terms of whats still closed and uncloned | 11:04 |
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| ff_ | LjL: "make me a program to automatically IR blast a volume lowering command to the TV when the microphone registers excess loudness" - the simplest/fastest way I see is: for monitoring level loudness "babyphone" in which setting file specify command to execute: "xdotool click 1" which send click mouse to "pierogi", done | 11:09 |
| Juesto | looks like libcali is something similar to pango or those libs :) | 11:10 |
| ff_ | for proper way I know how to monitor loudness in python, but not how to send some IR | 11:13 |
| Juesto | Should i log out form garage? | 11:14 |
| Juesto | i am still unable to login to maemo.org | 11:14 |
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| * LjL will do ff_'s idea :) | 17:28 | |
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| bit | hello | 17:56 |
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| Guest64459 | could someone tell me why the whole PIA VPN Network is on the forums blocklist? I can't join the forum this way :-( | 17:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | The IP must be on a forum spam list somewhere | 18:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~unbanip | 18:00 |
| infobot | well, unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here | 18:00 |
| KotCzarny | https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/179.43.155.98 | 18:01 |
| KotCzarny | some script kiddies | 18:01 |
| KotCzarny | https://stopforumspam.com/ipcheck/179.43.155.98 | 18:02 |
| KotCzarny | and either open proxy or spammers | 18:02 |
| KotCzarny | https://cleantalk.org/blacklists/179.43.155.98 | 18:04 |
| KotCzarny | yup, definitely spammers using that service | 18:05 |
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| Guest64459 | that's very sad :-( why they destroy the internet this way. I don't like script skiddies! | 18:07 |
| KotCzarny | because they can | 18:07 |
| KotCzarny | think of kids hurting themselves and the world around out of boredom | 18:08 |
| Guest64459 | so nothing to do then... it should be the parents job to tell them how the internet works... | 18:09 |
| KotCzarny | parents are big kids too | 18:10 |
| KotCzarny | do what sixwheeledbeast have said | 18:10 |
| Guest64459 | that's right, but they should know how to behave. | 18:10 |
| Guest64459 | thx for your help, I will do :-) | 18:10 |
| Guest64459 | bb | 18:11 |
| Guest64459 | ~unbanip | 18:12 |
| infobot | [unbanip] please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here | 18:12 |
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| Juesto | Should i log out from garage.maemo.org to be able to login in maemo.org ? | 21:58 |
| Juesto | i still cant login | 21:58 |
| Juesto | created account yesterday | 21:58 |
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| Juesto | who i should ping for website issues? | 22:00 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | you can be logged into both | 22:19 |
| Juesto | sixwheeledbeast: well, its not working, login is failing | 22:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :shrug: you are trying to log into m.o and not t.m.o? | 22:32 |
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| Juesto | sixwheeledbeast: I logged to garage but i cant login to maemo.org | 22:49 |
| Juesto | tmo? | 22:50 |
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| Juesto | ??? | 22:52 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ~tmo | 23:01 |
| infobot | somebody said tmo was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. | 23:01 |
| Juesto | :D | 23:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | maemo.org and talk.maemo.org have seperate logins IIRC | 23:02 |
| Juesto | And garage? | 23:02 |
| Juesto | so what do i do? | 23:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | This is from the forum being owned by reggie as ITT | 23:02 |
| Juesto | hm... | 23:03 |
| Juesto | ~itt | 23:03 |
| infobot | well, itt is the forums on internettablettalk.com ( http://internettablettalk.com/forums ) | 23:03 |
| Juesto | what do i do then? | 23:03 |
| bencoh | you have to register separately on maemo.org and tmo, as far as I remember | 23:04 |
| bencoh | (although I kinda recall there is a way to link accounts?) | 23:05 |
| Juesto | bencoh: maemo.org redirects to garage | 23:05 |
| Juesto | the register page | 23:05 |
| Juesto | i am registered on garage but i am unable to login on maemo.org | 23:05 |
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| bencoh | hmm | 23:05 |
| Juesto | registered yesterday also | 23:05 |
| Juesto | i read the new users note but it been a day and nothing | 23:06 |
| bencoh | what about new users note? | 23:06 |
| Juesto | Note to new users | 23:07 |
| Juesto | If you just created your account in garage.maemo.org, try again in a few minutes.Thank you. | 23:07 |
| Juesto | yet i cant login | 23:07 |
| bencoh | ah | 23:08 |
| Juesto | >Also note that while garage has case-insensitive usernames, here the usernames are case-sensitive, try using all lowercase.< i am trying fully lowercase and its not working | 23:08 |
| bencoh | well .. | 23:08 |
| bencoh | ~techstaff | 23:08 |
| infobot | well, techstaff is techstaff(AT)maemo.org - the folks that keep your maemo infra running. Devotion to Duty http://xkcd.com/705/ | 23:08 |
| bencoh | I dont really remember the register process, so not sure what's normal and what's not | 23:08 |
| Juesto | which of techstaff is here...? | 23:10 |
| * Juesto prefers chatting | 23:10 | |
| bencoh | iirc xes is ... but he doesn't seem to be around for some reason | 23:10 |
| Juesto | :( | 23:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast | you can link garage and m.o but t.m.o was seperate IIRC | 23:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~midgard | 23:20 |
| infobot | A PHP Application Server Suite - Web building with Web-based tools. URL: http://www.midgard-project.org/ | 23:20 |
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| Oksanaa | osso-mmc-mount calls mmc-mount, and mmc-mount calls fsck -a, and fsck -a calls fsck.vfat -a, right? For MyDocs check on startup. What I want to know, is: wouldn't w flag help fsck to avoid being repeated on each startup? | 23:37 |
| Oksanaa | f and t flags also sound useful, but may take more time. | 23:39 |
| Sicelo | i would just fix the FS from a pc ... simpler, quicker, more reliable, and guaranteed | 23:45 |
| Sicelo | just this morning i had to do that | 23:46 |
| Oksanaa | This would require working microUSB port. Which I do not have. | 23:47 |
| Sicelo | ah | 23:48 |
| Oksanaa | Anyway, which flags do you recommend for fsck? | 23:48 |
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| Juesto | oksanaa: you take out the sd and put it in pc | 23:51 |
| Juesto | windows laptop reccommended since 1) usually sd readers are built in laptops and linux has issues with them, there seem some bugs with it | 23:52 |
| Oksanaa | No SD card. Internal eMMC. | 23:52 |
| Juesto | ouch | 23:53 |
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| Oksanaa | FATs differ but appear to be intact. Using first FAT. Cluster problems, truncating approximately a dozen of different files. | 23:55 |
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| bencoh | (completely unrelated, but musikloud2 is actually quite a nice music player - never noticed because I'm not a soundcloud user, neither am I a fan of the paradigm) | 23:57 |
| Oksanaa | Similar. Not a soundcloud user, myself. Anybody has a documentation how rtcom-messaging-ui works? All I know is that its js sends out alert("something"); messages which cause various actions outside html+js+css world. | 23:59 |
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