IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2016-12-09

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bencohsixwheeledbeast: I guess you could add the x86 version of the nokia repo (or mirror)00:05
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ulyaothugh i cant get the sdk virtual machine to boot -_- i get a blue screen every time04:12
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ulyaothi'm trying to find the kubuntu mobile image that was supposed to be here - - but it's dead05:51
ulyaothis this close? - -05:51
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gryHi all! In the vm image osso-xterm is missing, I asked a few hours ago but disconnected. which repository should I add? :)08:25
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freemangordongry: try the one in cssu repo09:03
freemangordongit repo that is. then build it09:03
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DocScrutinizer05 morning and hi!11:35
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gryfreemangordon: you mean I could get osso-xterm through git clone and compile it, not through apt?12:58
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DocScrutinizer05gry: you want to run xterm in the maemo emulation? why?13:35
* DocScrutinizer05 isn't sure but can't help thinking that the maemo emu is semi pointless13:36
DocScrutinizer05possibly useful for checking GUI aspects13:43
MaxdamantusAnnual leave.13:56
gryDocScrutinizer05, just the maemo terminal14:08
gryemu is indeed semi pointless, but it's the best I could think of for making a new app for hildon14:09
DocScrutinizer05making yes, testing nope14:35
DocScrutinizer05particularly cmli programs probably don't profit from testing them in qemu which doesn't have any (or most) of the N900 specific subsystems and thus APIs, and the rest is pretty much CPU/system agnostic, e.g. a htop would look 100% identical under maemo emu in xterm and under an arbitrary (x86-)debian in an arbitrary shell/terminal, aiui14:45
DocScrutinizer05so I'd develop under native x86, then I'd use sb for building but not for testing and rather test on target aka N90014:48
DocScrutinizer05but I must admit that I never actually *did* that, so maybe take this with a grain of salt, I might well not be aware of some aspects14:49
DocScrutinizer05and actually AIUI(!) the maemo "emu" is based on x86 code, that's why you can't simply install all stuff to it like you could on N90014:53
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DocScrutinizer05so when there's no osso-xterm, then maybe nobody thought it's useful or needed for anything so far14:54
DocScrutinizer05which would be a point supporting my rationale above14:55
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fladnag900Hey do you know if there is a way to have a wifi hotspot without powerkernel ?15:55
fladnag900I cant install qt mobilehotspot and theotherone without and idont know what powerkernel i should use and wher toget therightone15:57
fladnag900Help please :)15:57
fladnag900I just have this shity nokia windows software and the bluetooth connection wich sucks and also does not work anymore becouse ithink the bluetooth stack or driver from the old nokiasuite whichonly provides it under windows atleast with the n90016:00
Wizzupwhy can't you install qtmobilehotspot16:00
Wizzupand why can't you install powerkernel16:00
fladnag900It needs powerkernel and idonthave and dontknow how andfromwhere16:00
fladnag900There are somony itseems16:01
Wizzuplook at the wiki, gandalf16:01
WizzupIt contains all the info you need16:01
Wizzupstart with cssu if you don't have it yet16:01
fladnag900Which wiki exactly please16:01
* Wizzup wats16:01
Wizzupjust look at the topic...16:02
fladnag900Ihave cssu but also dont know whatversion or ifihave actualzy repos16:02
Wizzupyou also have a broken space bar16:02
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fladnag900Is there a save way to get some powerkernel or isthere a hotspot app foer maemo that does notneedone ?16:05
fladnag900Sory for the inconvinience16:05
fladnag900And i have a big problem ithin with my packetmanager and all repos lm16:06
WizzupSounds like that is something you should fix.16:06
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fladnag900Where is THE BEST MOST COMPLETE MOST AKTUAL n900 repo page ?16:07
fladnag900Thatworks for a longer period16:08
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fladnag900And does someone here know if the android on n900 project is working now with wifi and phone funtionality16:09
fladnag900Help wy does the neo900 have to be so expensive16:10
infoboti guess wmo is http://wiki.maemo.org16:12
infobotrumour has it, kp is
sixwheeledbeastbecause it's a bespoke device and not a lot of people have ordered one16:13
sixwheeledbeastlarger numbers would have reduced production costs I imagine.16:14
sixwheeledbeastIf you can answer more verbosely why installing KP is a problem maybe someone can help16:15
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fladnag9002.6.28.10 bfs  and bootimage are the only powerkernels on my manager ... Where is this new version v.53 ?16:22
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infobothmm... repos is "deb ./ ;; deb ./", or see, or see ~jrrepos16:26
infobotmaemo-repos is, like,
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sixwheeledbeastin extras somewhere17:01
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sicelofladnag900: you need power kernel. no getting around that.17:04
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DocScrutinizer05~listkeys cloud-718:19
infobotFactoid search of 'cloud-7' by key returned no results.18:19
infobotjrrepos is probably
infobotsomebody said repos was "deb ./ ;; deb ./", or see, or see ~jrrepos18:24
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ulyaoth<fladnag900> i've installed bfs a long time ago but to this day airodump complains about not proper sysfs injection. monitor mode doesn't seem to work properly either, it remains connected to my ap  even after activation19:38
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infobotextra, extra, read all about it, pkg is
ulyaothi think i've got it, removing uboot-pr13 > installing the other uboot package > installing power or bfs kernel on top19:48
DocScrutinizer05  0.5319:48
ulyaoththat's the one19:49
ulyaothhuh, that's weird. about to flash power kernel, and it says the old one is u-boot 2013.4 versus
ulyaothwaiting this one out19:53
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ulyaothlooks safe from what i've read so far20:00
ulyaothuboot's gone T_T20:01
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ulyaothi'm only left with bootmenu at this point and das u-boot appears to be installed, power kernel has been flashed20:07
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infobotN900 uBoot is a siamese twin binary [uBoot+stockMaemoKernel] that resides in kernel NAND partition /dev/mtd3 aka "kernel". You can't uninstall it, rather you'll nuke it when you flash/install another kernel like stock maemo kernel or powerkernel. To start other than stock maemo kernel via uBoot, you have to provide the according kernel image files, or
sixwheeledbeastAh yes I recall it being removed intentionally20:38
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ulyaothgoing to my campus, i'll get back on this when i'm back21:23
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