| sixwheeledbeast | ooh keepassx2 for maemo, nice | 00:05 |
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| ymartin59 | works well on x86... I need to improve usability (backport my patches done on 0.4.3) | 00:13 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | it's the UI that's lacking on small screens from what I tested in the past. | 00:22 |
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| ymartin59 | Maenwhile I push to github: https://github.com/ymartin59/keepassx-maemo/tree/2.0 | 00:42 |
| ymartin59 | Bye. | 00:42 |
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| xes | http://motherboard.vice.com/read/hacker-claims-to-push-malicious-firmware-update-to-32-million-home-routers | 13:05 |
| Wizzup | heh. | 13:08 |
| KotCzarny | he just works for the manufacturers | 13:08 |
| KotCzarny | that want to sell more more more | 13:08 |
| warfare | This is why I run my own router and don't trust the stuff my ISP wants to give me. | 13:09 |
| KotCzarny | but it might be some silly news site | 13:09 |
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| xes | https://badcyber.com/new-mirai-attack-vector-bot-exploits-a-recently-discovered-router-vulnerability/ | 13:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>TR-064 protocol<< ?? | 13:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | oohfsck https://avm.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Global/Service/Schnittstellen/AVM_TR-064_overview.pdf | 13:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how many of that TR crap exists? | 13:20 |
| warfare | TR-069 for wan side, TR-064 for the lan side as an alternative to UPNP & stuff. | 13:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oooh LAN side | 13:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so those twits exposed TR-054 to WAN? | 13:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 64* | 13:22 |
| warfare | Apparently, yes. | 13:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-(( | 13:23 |
| xes | DocScrutinizer05: they want give you the sensation that even at home you are not alone ;) | 13:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | woudn't TR-054 show up in a full portrange nmap? | 13:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 64* dang | 13:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or is it protected by stuff like port-knocking? | 13:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or UDP key | 13:30 |
| warfare | DocScrutinizer05: https://avm.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Global/Service/Schnittstellen/AVM_Technical_Note_-_Konfiguration_ueber_TR-064.pdf | 13:31 |
| * Wizzup wonders if his fritzbox is OK ;) | 13:31 | |
| Wizzup | at least I have openwrt between fritzbox and LAN | 13:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, they claim access via TR-064 isn't possible when you have a password set on Fritte | 13:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | they also seem to say access is via port 443 | 13:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then I'm a happy camper since tcp port 443 is closed on my frontend router | 13:37 |
| Wizzup | it's forwarded to my home server | 13:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | only ssh access to my LAN | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, and a few forwarded ports with no active service | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | like 10000 for STUN | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 5060 | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (actually active) | 13:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | just waiting for some hacker finding an exploit for/in _that_ | 13:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd be surprised if it had no buffer overflows or anything else at all | 13:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sucks when you have SIP daemon and WLAN and possibly even router on same CPU | 13:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and same NIC | 13:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackerangriff_auf_DSL-Router_am_27._November_2016 | 13:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>Ziel des Angriffs war der Aufbau einer Verbindung mittels Fernwartungsprotokoll (TR-069) und das Einschleusen einer Schadsoftware über einen in der TR-069-Spezifikation nicht vorgesehenen Befehl des TR-064-Protokolls...<< | 13:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway http://paste.opensuse.org/72514013 I think I'm safe | 13:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | no, my IP changed since ;-) | 13:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't use an ISP provided router myself | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | never did | 14:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what I'm worried most about are my LAN devices with proprietary firmware, like printer, home automation, whatnot | 14:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my printer even has a NTP built in, it does a nozzle clean every day 12:00 noon | 14:45 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | IMO CCTV is the most vulnerable IP device in a home. DVR's are basically out of date Linux machines, that can watch your every move. | 15:00 |
| KotCzarny | many cctv devices come pre-trojaned for your convenienece! | 15:00 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 15:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd still use analog SAT TV if that existed | 15:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | akk that digital TV stuff sucks big time | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all* | 15:02 |
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| xes | anyway, there are devices where also the stock features could give great satisfaction... http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/12/17/bt-back-door/1 | 15:23 |
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| KotCzarny | got windows? | 15:24 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 15:24 |
| xes | KotCzarny: read the pdf ^ | 15:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Yep many popular Chinese brands have back door in them | 15:25 |
| KotCzarny | nah, i know we are backdoored | 15:25 |
| KotCzarny | be it software, system, devices or even chips layer | 15:25 |
| KotCzarny | and systemd just proves people dont care about security. 'it only has to boot quick' (even if you boot once a year) | 15:26 |
| buZz | fritzbox is diarrea anyway | 15:28 |
| Wizzup | better than all other isp-provided ones though | 15:38 |
| buZz | possibly , not convinced that much | 15:39 |
| buZz | telfort once gave me a zyxel router with 100% stock config, nothing preconfigured or modded | 15:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast | systemd is a non-issue in comparison, it's open source and not mandatory. Routers and other equipment is a requirement to many. | 15:42 |
| KotCzarny | swb: also buggy, unstable ... | 15:45 |
| KotCzarny | now imagine what will happen when it gets included on routers | 15:45 |
| KotCzarny | 'because it boots faster' | 15:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Many of the items in this botnet is still on 2.x kernel and not updated or patched if exploits are found. I am all for init freedom but there are bigger fish that systemd for IoT IMO. | 15:49 |
| sixwheeledbeast | s/that/than | 15:49 |
| KotCzarny | we will see | 15:50 |
| sixwheeledbeast | systemd is too bloated to be on routers etc for the near future. | 15:52 |
| buZz | my last router i bought had 128MB flash already | 15:55 |
| buZz | i dont think this will really be any issue | 15:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | systemd mandates writable root fs. pretty incompatible with routers that often have no real r/w fs at all | 15:57 |
| KotCzarny | tmpfs | 15:57 |
| KotCzarny | or dying routers ahoy | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | buZz: you can flash all Fritz to AVM plain firmware if it comes too 'branded' | 16:01 |
| buZz | ooo nice | 16:02 |
| buZz | i think we dumpsterdived couple fritz's | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a pity | 16:02 |
| buZz | last time i looked they had 0 support to run OpenWRT | 16:02 |
| buZz | but you say they do? | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | google freetz | 16:02 |
| buZz | freetz is just a slight mod to firmware | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you need the AVM pre-6.51 recovery *.exe | 16:03 |
| buZz | so, no openwrt? i'll just consider them lost causes then | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no idea | 16:04 |
| buZz | ah no, actually a couple are supported a bit | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | they come with a number of blobs, just like maemo ;-) | 16:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the newer ones for example have offload (hw accel for packet routing) | 16:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't think that's FOSS | 16:06 |
| buZz | looks like nearly all of them are highly unrecommended openwrt platforms :P | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, aiui openwrt is best on very basic hw | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't see openwrt work fine with e.g. the DECT in mine | 16:07 |
| buZz | ah DECT <3 | 16:07 |
| buZz | i still need to grab me a couple of those CardBus DECT sniffers | 16:07 |
| kerio | should i spend like 200€ for one of those super high end fritzbox routers with VDSL | 16:09 |
| kerio | 🤔 | 16:09 |
| KotCzarny | dsl? what do you need dsl for? | 16:09 |
| buZz | connectivity | 16:11 |
| KotCzarny | get fibre | 16:11 |
| buZz | countries with good phonelines can use DSL for highspeed network connectivity | 16:12 |
| buZz | not all countries can do fibre yet | 16:12 |
| kerio | "high speed" | 16:12 |
| buZz | yeah, higher than a nullmodem | 16:12 |
| kerio | 80/20 is not high speed :< | 16:12 |
| * buZz is on 10/1 | 16:12 | |
| kerio | 10/1 is also not high speed :< | 16:12 |
| buZz | ;) exactly | 16:16 |
| buZz | but hey | 16:16 |
| buZz | beats downloading pr0n jpegs on a 14k4 modem | 16:16 |
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| KotCzarny | mmm, dialup pr0n | 16:21 |
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| KotCzarny | where half of the fun was imagining what will be below | 16:22 |
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| buZz | KotCzarny: and -then- i would still have to dither the image for 20-30 minutes to display it on my monochrome monitor | 16:25 |
| buZz | gud times | 16:25 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, imagination at work | 16:26 |
| KotCzarny | we actually had to use our brains instead of consuming ;) | 16:26 |
| buZz | ^_^ | 16:27 |
| buZz | i love ppl that get angry at me for not helping them understand some program | 16:27 |
| buZz | after i just linked them the manual etc | 16:27 |
| buZz | 'CANT YOU JUST SAY HOW I SHOULD DO IT' | 16:27 |
| buZz | 'that wouldnt help you really' | 16:28 |
| buZz | 'OK I GIVE UP, THIS PROGRAM DOES NOT WANT USERS!' | 16:28 |
| KotCzarny | playing games without any manual or tutorial. bah, even without knowing the game's language | 16:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | buZz: c'mon, you should feel happy! My users state "THAT DAMN PROGRAM SHALL JUST DO WHAT I WANT!" | 16:33 |
| buZz | DocScrutinizer05: ah not users, these are 'friends' | 16:33 |
| buZz | that 'work in IT so have high skills' | 16:33 |
| KotCzarny | friends with benefits | 16:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | friends too, eveb gf, but no skills obviously | 16:33 |
| buZz | ah well | 16:34 |
| KotCzarny | simplifying everything around us would result in reducing our skills to stating 'i want that' | 16:35 |
| buZz | they would lose denoting skills , and drop it to 'i want' | 16:37 |
| KotCzarny | and in effect degradation, degeneration and decadentism | 16:37 |
| KotCzarny | decadence? | 16:38 |
| KotCzarny | dead can dance | 16:38 |
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| ymartin59 | Hello. Does anyone has access to vcs.maemo.org logs to diagnose my push trouble ? | 21:27 |
| ymartin59 | git push origin 0.4.3 | 21:27 |
| ymartin59 | error: Cannot access URL https://vcs.maemo.org/git/keepassx/, return code 22 | 21:27 |
| ymartin59 | fatal: git-http-push failed | 21:27 |
| ymartin59 | error: failed to push some refs to 'https://vcs.maemo.org/git/keepassx' | 21:27 |
| ymartin59 | 21:27 | |
| KotCzarny | might be that someone has to authorize that project | 21:29 |
| KotCzarny | dont know which one of the techstaff is able | 21:30 |
| ymartin59 | I am member of the project already | 21:30 |
| ymartin59 | I have already pushed there in 2013 and 2014 | 21:30 |
| KotCzarny | but, you dont have to post code there, regular apt with sources is sufficient | 21:31 |
| KotCzarny | also, i think it doesnt matter if you did it before, new projects have to be authorized | 21:31 |
| KotCzarny | (i might be wrong, but that's what my memory remembers) | 21:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast | is *.maemo.org fully functional again? | 21:32 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm | 21:38 |
| KotCzarny | https://vcs.maemo.org/git/?p=keepassx;a=shortlog | 21:39 |
| ymartin59 | OK... quite few more years earlier... | 22:00 |
| KotCzarny | are you sure you are the dev of THIS particular project and not one typo away? | 22:01 |
| ymartin59 | By the way how may I get grants to push to APT extra-devel repository ? | 22:01 |
| KotCzarny | i think everyone can push to extras-devel | 22:01 |
| KotCzarny | and that's the fun part of extras-devel. never ever do apt-upgrade on it ;) | 22:02 |
| ymartin59 | I logged in with my keepassx credential into project and account member is mine, sure of it: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/keepassx/ | 22:02 |
| ymartin59 | KotCzarny: OK so I have to learn the right way to push into extras-devel... that is new to me | 22:03 |
| KotCzarny | ~ping | 22:03 |
| KotCzarny | bot is still missing. eh | 22:03 |
| KotCzarny | check wiki | 22:04 |
| ymartin59 | Found http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras-devel | 22:04 |
| ymartin59 | Thanks | 22:04 |
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