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| warfare | Everything going down now. | 17:52 |
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| L29Ah | no | 17:57 |
| kerio | D: | 17:57 |
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| freemangordon | Android_808: hi! | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | I managed to build h-d, finally :) | 18:35 |
| Android_808 | hi, finally got home | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | in devuan VM. Now I am building it in devuan on allwinner tablet | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | Android_808: how to setup theme for h-d to use? I installed alpha theme, but h-d didn;t pick it up | 18:36 |
| Android_808 | I', just going over it at the moment. Apparently it still builds with the Mer hack in place :) I'm reverting the hack now. | 18:37 |
| freemangordon | ok | 18:37 |
| freemangordon | Android_808: I made 2 pull requests, please merge | 18:37 |
| Android_808 | Try symlink /usr/share/themes/alpha to /usr/share/themes/default. | 18:38 |
| freemangordon | Android_808: tried it, nothing | 18:38 |
| KotCzarny | fmg: run h-d via strace? | 18:39 |
| KotCzarny | should be doable on that tablet | 18:39 |
| KotCzarny | grep 'open' | 18:39 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: I tried that in the VM | 18:39 |
| Android_808 | Whats the output when running through the console, if I remember it has something to do with backgrounds not being found. | 18:40 |
| freemangordon | yes, it cannot find pvr files | 18:41 |
| freemangordon | but that should not be a reason for missing switcher button image | 18:41 |
| Android_808 | Ok, copy the background[1-4].png to ~/.backgrounds | 18:42 |
| freemangordon | ok | 18:43 |
| Android_808 | Wouldn't even start for me without those in place. | 18:44 |
| Android_808 | any luck? | 18:45 |
| freemangordon | just a second | 18:46 |
| freemangordon | Android_808: no such files in alpha theme, shall I use the ones from n900? | 18:47 |
| Android_808 | I know I copied them in from somewhere, one sec | 18:48 |
| Android_808 | alpha package, /usr/share/themes/alpha/backgrounds/ called background1.png, background2.png by the looks of it | 18:51 |
| freemangordon | weird, I have files called "wallpaper", not background | 18:51 |
| freemangordon | I just pulled alpha package from maemo repos | 18:52 |
| freemangordon | Android_808: also, this is x86, that might be the reason it starts at all | 18:55 |
| * freemangordon checks in SB | 18:55 | |
| freemangordon | no background1.png in SB too | 18:56 |
| Android_808 | whoops, yeah wallpaper[1-4].png. wallpaper in theme, background-[1-4].png in ~/.backgrounds | 18:57 |
| Android_808 | From hildon-theme-alpha_9.1+0m5_all.deb | 18:57 |
| freemangordon | I copied those from the device :) | 18:58 |
| freemangordon | looks way better now, but task switcher button is still pink :) | 18:58 |
| freemangordon | "could not find icon tasklaunch..." | 18:59 |
| Android_808 | There is a backgrounds...service for want of a better phrase that I don't have running yet that populates the hildon-home dialogs IIRC. Maybe that copies current theme wallpaper over. | 19:00 |
| freemangordon | could be | 19:01 |
| freemangordon | any idea where are the icons? | 19:01 |
| freemangordon | hmm, in theme it seems | 19:02 |
| freemangordon | but h-d cannot find it | 19:02 |
| Android_808 | what was the full path? | 19:06 |
| freemangordon | no path, just tasklaunch_default_application | 19:09 |
| freemangordon | I guess this is icon | 19:09 |
| Android_808 | that doesn't sound quite right for task switcher. try mkdir /etc/hildon, then ln -s "/usr/share/themes/default" '/etc/hildon/theme' | 19:11 |
| Android_808 | I know I don't have icon theme installed so its defo not that. | 19:12 |
| freemangordon | ok | 19:13 |
| freemangordon | looks better now :) | 19:15 |
| freemangordon | Android_808: any idea how to run h-d on ARM with SW rendering? | 19:18 |
| Android_808 | Right, both them commands are part of theme-config/theme-default-settings/theme-default-settings-[variant]. The nokia binaries release is only a postinst script, as mentioned the other day. I have literally just upped a copy to my repo of it repackaged. not 100% sure if i can do this but all it does it set up symlinks. All we need to do later is change the default theme name when we have a gtk3 ready theme. | 19:20 |
| freemangordon | ok | 19:20 |
| Android_808 | er... | 19:20 |
| Android_808 | Not 100%. I'm gonna guess it would need mesa with gles support and gallium drivers. | 19:25 |
| freemangordon | ok, installing libgl1-mesa-swx11 seems to fix it | 19:26 |
| freemangordon | but now I have "libEGL warning: DRI2: failed to authenticate" and the segfault :( | 19:27 |
| KotCzarny | that's in vm or on tablet? | 19:27 |
| freemangordon | tablet | 19:28 |
| freemangordon | in vm there is no problem | 19:28 |
| KotCzarny | it looks like a common problem with mesa/arm | 19:29 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 19:29 |
| KotCzarny | try reinstalling mesa packages? | 19:30 |
| freemangordon | es2gears starts without problem | 19:30 |
| Android_808 | There's a bit on https://pi3d.github.io/html/FAQ.html with same error | 19:31 |
| KotCzarny | or check what libEGL.so.1 and libGLESv2.so.2 points to | 19:31 |
| freemangordon | so segfault seems unrelated, lets see what gdb says | 19:31 |
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| bencoh | (is suppose techstaff is working on infra?) | 19:32 |
| Android_808 | another suggests removing libgles2-mesa | 19:33 |
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| freemangordon | Android_808: that will remove clutter :) | 19:34 |
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| Android_808 | unfortunately I don't have *any* devices to actually test on at the moment so I only use x86_64 VM Stretch image, running x86_64 Jessie in nspawn container or an Eee 1000 running a x86 Stretch nspawn. | 19:38 |
| KotCzarny | check what libs ldd shows? | 19:38 |
| Android_808 | What are the tablet specs or make&model | 19:40 |
| KotCzarny | q8 clone | 19:41 |
| KotCzarny | allwinner a33 based | 19:41 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 19:41 |
| freemangordon | it has mali GPU, but I was hoping to run it without HW accell | 19:41 |
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| KotCzarny | unfortunatelly none of the arm 3D chips have open source or at least mainline driver (afair) | 19:44 |
| Wizzup | freedreno has one | 19:45 |
| Wizzup | so for adreno gpu's | 19:45 |
| Wizzup | but it doesn't matter much if you're just using it as test/dev device | 19:45 |
| Wizzup | as in, then you don't necessarily need a foss one (would be nice) | 19:46 |
| KotCzarny | wizzup, i think there isnt even an unofficial patch for mali | 19:47 |
| KotCzarny | (but i might be wrong) | 19:47 |
| Android_808 | Can you force X11 to load llvm driver? | 19:50 |
| NotKit | what about LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1? | 19:50 |
| NotKit | with MESA installed | 19:50 |
| freemangordon | will try both | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | NotKit: renderer is already SW - "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa X11" | 19:53 |
| NotKit | could you try LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose? | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | changes nothing | 19:56 |
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| Wizzup | it should say llvmpipe as renderer | 20:06 |
| Wizzup | some distros should allow you to switch between backend | 20:06 |
| NotKit | with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose it should display what driver library MESA is trying to load, if MESA is used | 20:08 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: I don;t see llvmpipe at all here | 20:09 |
| Android_808 | freemangordon: forgot to say, merged your commits. Added another to revert the Mer changes. | 20:09 |
| freemangordon | great | 20:09 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: how to install that, any idea? | 20:09 |
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| Wizzup | freemangordon: let me look around for a bit | 20:10 |
| freemangordon | ok | 20:11 |
| Wizzup | does glxinfo give you anything? | 20:11 |
| Wizzup | glxinfo | grep renderer ; glxinfo | grep version | 20:11 |
| freemangordon | sure, lots of stuff | 20:11 |
| Wizzup | what does it say for renderer? | 20:11 |
| freemangordon | renderer is mesa | 20:12 |
| Wizzup | hm | 20:12 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa X11" | 20:12 |
| Wizzup | ok | 20:13 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: apt-get install llvm-dev? | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | maybe jessie's mesa isnt compiled with it? | 20:13 |
| Wizzup | I am tryin to find out if that can be found out by looking at the libs | 20:13 |
| freemangordon | should I install gallium driver? | 20:14 |
| Wizzup | https://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2015/07/msg00038.html this seems somewhat relevant | 20:14 |
| Wizzup | (still digging) | 20:14 |
| Wizzup | It should at least say llvmpipe if you're using that, so I think right now you don't have it | 20:15 |
| Android_808 | I can't see llvmpipe in arm packages, so you may need to rebuild mesa | 20:15 |
| freemangordon | seems like | 20:15 |
| Wizzup | That would be quite annoying | 20:15 |
| KotCzarny | funnily ubuntu bug that made them disable it shows just that error msg | 20:15 |
| KotCzarny | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1260068 | 20:15 |
| freemangordon | cool :) | 20:15 |
| Wizzup | Wondering if I can just give you my mesa... | 20:16 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: armhf? | 20:16 |
| Wizzup | yep | 20:16 |
| KotCzarny | so maybe its enabled, but something is messed up in os | 20:16 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: no, it is disabled because of unity | 20:16 |
| KotCzarny | error msg is the same (and segfault too ;) | 20:17 |
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| Wizzup | https://wizzup.org/mesa.tar.bz2 may be worth a shot. | 20:17 |
| Wizzup | It's from my armhf chromebook | 20:17 |
| Wizzup | Otherwise, maybe we can get parazyd to build it | 20:17 |
| Wizzup | devuan should not care about unity | 20:18 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: just extract that in /? | 20:18 |
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| Wizzup | freemangordon: well, I don't know if that is sensible, but you could. | 20:18 |
| freemangordon | ok | 20:18 |
| Wizzup | maybe back up some things it may override | 20:18 |
| Wizzup | again, this is from my gentoo laptop, so it may work, but it may also not work, or things may be in a different place | 20:18 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 20:19 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: on unrelated note, how did you extract the firmware from your android? | 20:19 |
| Wizzup | I want to move forward on the tablet tonight | 20:19 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: with the extractor, but it didn't work :) | 20:19 |
| Wizzup | Apparently my tablet is also q8, so maybe I can just try something that you have? | 20:19 |
| freemangordon | so I found TS FW over the inet | 20:19 |
| Wizzup | Aha. I was thinking of rooting the android / install a shell | 20:19 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: adb does the job | 20:19 |
| Wizzup | ah. right. | 20:19 |
| Android_808 | do you have a link for the tablet? | 20:19 |
| Wizzup | Android_808: I only have a link to the shop I got mine, and I cannot say for sure it'll work yet. | 20:20 |
| Wizzup | but it's this one: http://www.plesio.bg/tableti-c-69981200/turbo-x-twister-iv-ips-ablet-7-wifi-black-p-314802.html | 20:20 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: idea .... tar tf the tar | 20:20 |
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| Wizzup | copy all the paths in the tar, as in backup it | 20:20 |
| Wizzup | so, ehm... | 20:20 |
| Wizzup | tar cjf debian-mesa-maybe.tar.bz2 $(tar tf mesa.tar.bz2) | 20:21 |
| Wizzup | that might work? at least to save any devuan things | 20:21 |
| Wizzup | (may need to add a / to the paths) | 20:21 |
| Wizzup | in any case, if you don't care about the image, you can just go ahead and try it right away | 20:21 |
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| Wizzup | or perhaps use some LD_LIBRARY_PATH hack, idk | 20:21 |
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| freemangordon | Wizzup: won;t work, as lib paths are different here | 20:24 |
| freemangordon | will try LD_PRELOAD | 20:24 |
| Wizzup | what are the lib paths? | 20:24 |
| freemangordon | /usr/lib/arm.... | 20:24 |
| Wizzup | I see | 20:25 |
| freemangordon | also, thre is no mesa dir at all, just dri | 20:25 |
| Wizzup | there must be a libGL at least | 20:25 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: let's continue here. what mesa version? waht's up? | 20:25 |
| Wizzup | I think all the important libs are in /usr/lib (in my tar), so LD_LIBRARY_PATH may just work | 20:25 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: would be nice if the mesa packaged in devuan has llvmpipe enabled | 20:25 |
| Wizzup | it's the much-faster software renderer | 20:26 |
| Wizzup | That way one can get somewhat usable opengl without gpu/drivers | 20:26 |
| freemangordon | parazyd: for armhf that is | 20:26 |
| parazyd | i'll see what i can do | 20:26 |
| parazyd | not sure if it can end up in jessie quickly, but i can give you a .dev | 20:27 |
| parazyd | .deb | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | will help a lot | 20:27 |
| parazyd | it's this one? libegl1-mesa | 20:28 |
| parazyd | sry | 20:28 |
| Wizzup | It's the one that contains libGL I think | 20:28 |
| parazyd | 10.3.2-1+deb8u1 | 20:28 |
| parazyd | ok | 20:28 |
| Wizzup | libegl is not a gl implementation library, but a way of using opengl that supports opengles, iirc | 20:29 |
| Wizzup | libGLES are the ones that implement opengles | 20:29 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: actually, do you need opengl or opengles? | 20:29 |
| freemangordon | I thing gles2 | 20:29 |
| Wizzup | Let me compile eglinfo and friends as well | 20:30 |
| Wizzup | (those are actually useful tools) | 20:31 |
| Android_808 | line 96 in debian/rules of Jessie package disables llvmpipe for armhf | 20:31 |
| Android_808 | of mesa | 20:31 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: the devuan image that you're using for the tablet, is it the one I downloaded at some point, for the n900? Or where did you get it from? | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | Or it is just a rootfs, and then your own u-boot+kernel image | 20:32 |
| parazyd | Android_808: just looking at it :) | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: the one for n900 | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | ok | 20:32 |
| parazyd | comment: # Do not build llvmpipe for armhf, it regresses compared to the classic swrast. | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | I need to go in a bit, but will take my tablet with me, hoping I can make it all work tonight | 20:32 |
| parazyd | freemangordon: ^^ | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: it regresses for unity | 20:32 |
| parazyd | O.o | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | you don't care about unity | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: also, what mesa does devuan ship? | 20:32 |
| parazyd | 10.3.2 | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | hm, that is very old | 20:33 |
| parazyd | that's what you get with debian | 20:33 |
| freemangordon | parazyd: well, swrast segfaults, what llvmpipe does then? | 20:33 |
| parazyd | >stable | 20:33 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: once I have that tablet image up, I can see if I can use my gentoo mesa and make it work for us for now | 20:33 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: ok | 20:33 |
| Wizzup | I might but you about that a few more times today | 20:33 |
| Wizzup | did you solder serial on it? | 20:33 |
| freemangordon | no | 20:33 |
| Wizzup | ok | 20:33 |
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| freemangordon | what is weird is that es2_gears work | 20:35 |
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| Wizzup | freemangordon: and eglinfo ? | 20:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: good luck! | 20:38 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: no eglinfo here, only es2_info | 20:39 |
| Wizzup | can I execute hardfp binaries on the n900, or will that just not work because of libc and such? | 20:41 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: in maemo? | 20:41 |
| Wizzup | yeah | 20:41 |
| freemangordon | hardly | 20:41 |
| Wizzup | ok | 20:41 |
| xes | #Maintenance Update: we are still alive ;) | 20:42 |
| Wizzup | oh, hang on, I didn't update the tar well. | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: really? | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 5 min ago "no connection" | 20:42 |
| warfare | DocScrutinizer05: alive as in "the hardware is working" | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah :-) | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | great! | 20:43 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: https://wizzup.org/mesa-progs.tar.bz2 contains recent mesa-tools | 20:43 |
| Wizzup | mine says: | 20:43 |
| Wizzup | $ es2_info | grep RENDER | 20:43 |
| Wizzup | libEGL warning: DRI2: failed to authenticate | 20:43 |
| Wizzup | GL_RENDERER: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.7, 128 bits) | 20:43 |
| freemangordon | ok | 20:44 |
| Wizzup | so: llvmpipe can do opengles2 | 20:44 |
| freemangordon | will test later, gtg now | 20:44 |
| freemangordon | night | 20:44 |
| Wizzup | ack :) | 20:44 |
| Wizzup | ttyl | 20:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since only x-fade has +f ( :-/ ) would you please ping me as soon as any news re servers and /topic ? | 20:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or wait, even simpler | 20:45 |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o warfare | 20:45 | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o xes | 20:45 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway maybe pinging me is simpler, I got the full history of topic in buffer | 20:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a matter of seconds to restore previous versions | 20:46 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: when you get back, I presume you built the u-boot according to this page - http://linux-sunxi.org/ET_Q8_V2.0 ? | 21:07 |
| Wizzup | also wondering if the tablet will boot from sd by default, I guess it should, if they used mmc0 for the sd card | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Wizzup: still depends on hw setting of BOOTP[5:0](?) | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's quite a number of options to select from, there | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Neo900 will boot from mmc0 only if there's no working xloader in NAND | 21:12 |
| Wizzup | DocScrutinizer05: talking about some allwinner tablet | 21:13 |
| Wizzup | (that we will use for hildon porting | 21:13 |
| Wizzup | ) | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I know | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though I'm not aware this is another CPU, so nevernind | 21:17 |
| Wizzup | the typical boot order for allwinner is something like mmc0,nand,mmc2,spi-flash or something | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, ok | 21:17 |
| Wizzup | I just wonder what slot the sd card is hooked up to (mmc0 or mmc2) | 21:17 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 sentimentally thinks back to "porting maemo to other devices? No way, noob!" - we should have been less arrogant ;-) | 21:19 | |
| gry | ~down | 21:21 |
| infobot | it has been said that down is "SERVICE DOWNTIME til 2016-11-27, see /topic, see https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1519159, TL;DR one blade broken, needs hardware swap. So wiki, bugs, a few more are down. | Wiki mirror at http://web.archive.org/web/20161108115528/http://wiki.maemo.org/Main_Page | 21:21 |
| gry | ok | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gry: service is hoz | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hot* | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2016-11-26 Sat 19:42:10] <xes> #Maintenance Update: we are still alive ;) | 21:23 |
| gry | aha | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gry: warfare is just giving a helping hand to the hardware in datacenter | 21:30 |
| gry | sounds good.. pics please, would be lovely to see the hardware itself :) | 21:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: ^^^ :-D | 21:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: how far were your XEN updates when blade-b went south? | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gry: I'm afraid it might already be too late, I guess warfare accomplished the hardware related part | 21:43 |
| xes | DocScrutinizer05: both blades are up and running. Blade-b has already received the updates of last week, blade-a is one week behind and will need another reboot. Now I'm importing the blade-b VMs into the new Xen 4.6 hypervisor and fixing what need to be retouched | 21:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: warfare: many many thanks! | 21:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | lol! https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/1427 | 22:09 |
| parazyd | !#$@ i hate debian package layout/system | 22:12 |
| enyc | parazyd: howso/whyso? | 22:14 |
| Android_808 | lol | 22:14 |
| parazyd | enyc: it's annoying and bloated | 22:14 |
| parazyd | why can't it be more like alpine/gentoo/arch | 22:16 |
| bencoh | meh, tomato/tomaydo :) | 22:19 |
| parazyd | freemangordon: Wizzup: building mesa now... could take a while, since non-native | 22:21 |
| * parazyd also hopes he got the flags correct | 22:21 | |
| Android_808 | freemangordon: hildon-desktop - new commit. hildon-status-menu - updated to use hildon-3. status-menu-applet-profiles - finally commited gtk3 port. Won't build without osso-profiles-l10n-public though. | 22:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | l10n ouch! The one package where Nokia has copyright issues with their own translators or whatever been the reason for this mess | 22:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc | 22:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I *think* timeless provided alternatives, prolly in sourcecode | 22:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, maybe I'm mixing that with i18n | 22:37 |
| parazyd | omg, copyrighting translations | 22:40 |
| enyc | parazyd: whats does the extra bloat implement featurewise? | 22:42 |
| parazyd | enyc: i really don't know. have you seen what debian source packages look like? | 22:42 |
| Android_808 | well, it built before so I'll see what happens if I just remove the build-dep | 22:43 |
| enyc | parazyd: very varied | 22:44 |
| enyc | parazyd: debian/ directory added to (whatever) source package | 22:45 |
| parazyd | yeah | 22:45 |
| enyc | parazyd: lots of debhelper variants and options possible, big history to this =)) | 22:45 |
| parazyd | in my book, a single file always wins over that directory which is full of stuff | 22:45 |
| parazyd | very complicated as well | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there are pros and downsides for each approach. See the increasing number of /etc/*.d/* for example | 22:47 |
| parazyd | DocScrutinizer05: what does .d have to do with that? | 22:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | editing a small file dedicated exclusively to one purpose, on a zoo of files - way simpler than doing same in one large file that concatenates all that stuff | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | e.g. /etc/crontab vs /etc/cron.d/* | 22:49 |
| parazyd | i wouldn't compare it like that though | 22:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for the latter cp, mv, rm, are sufficient, for the former you need nifty sed jobs | 22:49 |
| parazyd | i'm just comparing it to other (binary) package managers | 22:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nevermind my rant though, i'm a) not competent regarding debian (or any) packages, and b) I actually find the apt and friends tools rather complicated | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I however like to have a look into *.deb or whatever they're named, by simply opening them in an archiver like Ark or even in mc | 22:54 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: well, I just did git clone, make $some_config and then make | 23:02 |
| freemangordon | Android_808: ok, going to pull | 23:02 |
| Android_808 | I was wrong about the l10n deb, its a depend not a build depend. I've replaced my Mer profiled now but somewhere along the way I've lost my status-menu actually displaying anything in the drop down menu :( | 23:04 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: right, so the q8 defconfig as on the wiki | 23:04 |
| Wizzup | and the kernel I guess is just v7defconfig, or sunxi defconfig? | 23:04 |
| freemangordon | most probably, can't remember | 23:04 |
| freemangordon | sunxi_defconfig | 23:04 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: and it auto boots from sd card due to boot prio? | 23:04 |
| freemangordon | I am booting through fel | 23:05 |
| Wizzup | ok | 23:05 |
| Wizzup | with sdcard as rootfs | 23:05 |
| freemangordon | remember to enable USB OTG, TS, etc | 23:05 |
| freemangordon | not enable in sunxi_defconfig | 23:05 |
| Wizzup | mainline kernel I presume. and for u-boot, I guess q8_a33_tablet_1024x600_defconfig | 23:06 |
| freemangordon | also, for wifi I had to find out-of-tree driver, my tablet is with some weird RTL chip | 23:06 |
| Wizzup | ok | 23:06 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: lemme see if I can find which config I used | 23:06 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: would you mind taking notes of the kernel build? | 23:06 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: i can include the tablet as a board in arm-sdk then | 23:06 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: yeah, although I presume I'll be doing kernel boards more often, and it's not a super-easy to get tablet I think | 23:07 |
| parazyd | what do you mean? | 23:07 |
| parazyd | i'm only providing a minimal rootfs for now, not worrying with X yet | 23:07 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: "make CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- q8_a33_tablet_1024x600_defconfig" | 23:07 |
| Wizzup | that I can also document it a bit later, but I'll keep track of it, but it mostly seems simple | 23:07 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: ack, I am arm native so don't need the cross compile | 23:08 |
| Wizzup | thanks! | 23:08 |
| Wizzup | Let's see how far I can get | 23:08 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: better try with fel first IMO | 23:08 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: yep i guess it's mostly like all other allwinner stuff | 23:08 |
| Wizzup | ok | 23:08 |
| Wizzup | I figured out what button the fel mode is | 23:08 |
| NotKit | what's needed for x86_64 build in case of Intel tablet? | 23:08 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: it seems identical to most allwinner stuff, except that I didn't try lcd screens before on allwinner | 23:08 |
| Wizzup | but I guess if they connected the lcd pins correctly, few things could go wrong | 23:09 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: sudo ../sunxi-tools/sunxi-fel -v -p uboot u-boot-sunxi-with-spl.bin write 0x46000000 zImage write 0x49000000 sun8i-a33-q8-tablet.dtb write 0x43100000 boot.scr | 23:09 |
| Wizzup | (famous last words) | 23:09 |
| Wizzup | thanks! that *is* useful | 23:09 |
| parazyd | :D | 23:09 |
| freemangordon | NotKit: build of what? | 23:09 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: try sun8i_defconfig instead of sunxi_defconfig for the kernel then | 23:10 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: actually ^^^ might be the config I am using for kernel build | 23:10 |
| freemangordon | can't remember :) | 23:10 |
| parazyd | well if uboot says so... :) | 23:11 |
| NotKit | Hildon UI | 23:12 |
| freemangordon | NotKit: the same as for ARM | 23:14 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: kernel 4.8 or 4.9-rc ? | 23:14 |
| freemangordon | 4.9-rc6 | 23:14 |
| Wizzup | ack | 23:14 |
| freemangordon | you'll need to tweak dts as well | 23:15 |
| Wizzup | for the display, or for buttons? | 23:16 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: http://pastebin.com/ydYD49qw | 23:16 |
| freemangordon | fot TS and for wifi, maybe | 23:16 |
| Wizzup | ok, so (initially) non essential | 23:17 |
| freemangordon | that chinese lady said she has more thing on her kernel branch, but I didn't play with it | 23:17 |
| freemangordon | *things | 23:17 |
| Wizzup | I recall audio and video | 23:18 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 23:18 |
| Wizzup | building u-boot atm | 23:18 |
| Wizzup | any clue if you can hard force-off your tablet? In case something hangs | 23:18 |
| Wizzup | presumably just holding the power button... | 23:18 |
| freemangordon | press-n-hold power button | 23:18 |
| freemangordon | thoug, if it is in fel mode dunno | 23:18 |
| freemangordon | but I was told those are unbrickable | 23:19 |
| Wizzup | I opened it up, so I can always remove the battery | 23:19 |
| freemangordon | well :) | 23:19 |
| Wizzup | https://wizzup.org/tablet.jpg | 23:19 |
| freemangordon | oh, the same RTL chip if i see it correctly | 23:20 |
| parazyd | which one is it? | 23:20 |
| freemangordon | the one with the cancer on it IMO | 23:21 |
| freemangordon | bottom-left | 23:21 |
| parazyd | :D | 23:21 |
| parazyd | yeah, but is it for wireless networking? | 23:22 |
| parazyd | so i'm wondering that model number | 23:22 |
| freemangordon | RTL8723AS | 23:22 |
| parazyd | thanks | 23:22 |
| freemangordon | mine is with RTL8723BS | 23:22 |
| freemangordon | hmm, or not | 23:23 |
| freemangordon | it is RTL, but I am not reading the nubler very well with my aging eyes | 23:23 |
| freemangordon | *number | 23:23 |
| parazyd | it could be BS (no pun intended) | 23:25 |
| parazyd | because bluetooth | 23:25 |
| freemangordon | could be | 23:26 |
| parazyd | no sorry i'm wrong. AS also has bluetooth | 23:26 |
| parazyd | geez this mesa is taking forever | 23:27 |
| freemangordon | well... no option but to wait | 23:27 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: silly question, would it take a long time to make a copy or your image? | 23:28 |
| Wizzup | hm, nvm, I'll work with the sunxi people first to get info that I need | 23:29 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: just you what I provided back then | 23:29 |
| Wizzup | ok | 23:29 |
| Wizzup | great | 23:29 |
| Wizzup | :) | 23:29 |
| freemangordon | this is what I use | 23:29 |
| Wizzup | cool | 23:29 |
| freemangordon | well, almos | 23:29 |
| freemangordon | can;t do it now, as it is mounted as / :) | 23:29 |
| Wizzup | hehe | 23:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ tmo back | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wiki.maemo.org back | 23:36 |
| parazyd | yay | 23:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | might need yet another boot, or two, I don't know | 23:39 |
| parazyd | doing upgrades? | 23:39 |
| parazyd | ~down | 23:40 |
| infobot | hmm... down is "SERVICE DOWNTIME til 2016-11-27, see /topic, see https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1519159, TL;DR one blade broken, needs hardware swap. So wiki, bugs, a few more are down. | Wiki mirror at http://web.archive.org/web/20161108115528/http://wiki.maemo.org/Main_Page | 23:40 |
| parazyd | mmm | 23:41 |
| Android_808 | freemangordon: do you have correct output from profileclient -l in vm? | 23:51 |
| freemangordon | Android_808: no idea, I am tryind to make h-d run on the tablet | 23:52 |
| Android_808 | ok. just trying to work out what screwed up the status menu. getting lots of "Failed to connect to socket /tmp/session_bus_socket: No such file or directory" | 23:53 |
| freemangordon | dbus crashed? | 23:56 |
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