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| rly | How can I start the fMMS application? | 00:00 |
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| Wizzup | has maemo ever nuked users? | 01:09 |
| Wizzup | I can't log in with my old account | 01:09 |
| KotCzarny | maybe something b0rked with the migration | 01:10 |
| KotCzarny | i mean maintenance | 01:10 |
| Wizzup | also can't recover since it says it doesn't know my account | 01:10 |
| Wizzup | ok | 01:10 |
| Wizzup | I'll wait, I guess | 01:10 |
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| KotCzarny | but you may ask xes for details | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell Wizzup about down | 01:24 |
| Wizzup | ok | 01:25 |
| Wizzup | thanks | 01:25 |
| Wizzup | this was about tmo, though | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tmo should work | 01:29 |
| Wizzup | this is about tmo only | 01:29 |
| Wizzup | but I need sleep first | 01:29 |
| Wizzup | :) | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tmo is basically completely unentangled to maemo.org at large | 01:29 |
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| rapha | DocScrutinizer05: the N900s battery finally arrived and i'm playing around with it for real now. Unfortunately I lost the link to your wiki page about first things to do in a new Maemo installation, could you post that again? | 03:04 |
| rapha | oh never mind the wiki is down :( | 03:06 |
| * rapha is already discovering that the best place to temporarily store the pen is in his mouth | 03:07 | |
| KotCzarny | dont forget to wash it periodically then | 03:08 |
| KotCzarny | or maybe dissinfect in vodka? | 03:09 |
| rapha | :) | 03:09 |
| rapha | no alcohol for me but saliva is antiseptic, so no worries ;) | 03:09 |
| KotCzarny | just saying. anyway, usually first thing to do is to install cssu | 03:10 |
| KotCzarny | ~cssu | 03:10 |
| infobot | cssu is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) | 03:10 |
| rapha | KotCzarny: is that possible with the maemo.org servers down? | 03:10 |
| KotCzarny | repo should be online, and wiki is mirrored on web archive | 03:10 |
| * rapha tries | 03:10 | |
| KotCzarny | ahm, forgot, before cssu, reflash it | 03:11 |
| KotCzarny | ~flashing | 03:11 |
| infobot | maemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing | 03:11 |
| rapha | KotCzarny: it's freshly flashed. | 03:11 |
| KotCzarny | by you or the seller? | 03:12 |
| rapha | by me of course | 03:12 |
| rapha | and it was a gift by my uncle | 03:12 |
| rapha | had to revive it first with DocScrutinizer05's help | 03:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell rapha about jrtools | 03:13 |
| rapha | hmm too bad our internet connection is sort of broken and doesn't load web.archive.org right now :( | 03:13 |
| rapha | DocScrutinizer05: hi! | 03:13 |
| rapha | ah perfect, that one it was! | 03:14 |
| rapha | but doesn't load either :( | 03:14 |
| rapha | i've already watched too much wireshark TV for today though | 03:15 |
| KotCzarny | maybe try some proxy? load on some remote shell via lynx/links ? | 03:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | try https://web.archive.org/web/20161019054240/http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 03:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the forward is a stopgap bandaid | 03:16 |
| rapha | nah we already tried everything. there was one device on the network that is apparently malware infected and i blocked that by MAC which made things a little better. but by and large, the router seems to be incapable of handling the traffic. around 6% packet loss minimum. | 03:17 |
| rapha | new router is on its way... | 03:17 |
| KotCzarny | you can try using pc as a router | 03:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ouch | 03:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mind posting sorry | 03:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mind posting your IP in a query? | 03:18 |
| rapha | KotCzarny: if i had a pc, then i could :) | 03:18 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 03:18 |
| KotCzarny | another thing to try would be changing web browser timeouts | 03:19 |
| rapha | DocScrutinizer05: as in, our public ip? you wanna see what is going in / coming out of it? | 03:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | after all a 6% packet loss might as wel be the connection | 03:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd check external ping packet loss | 03:20 |
| rapha | DocScrutinizer05: naw, when i go down to the basement and disconnect the router and go directly to upstream, all is well. | 03:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oooh | 03:20 |
| rapha | KotCzarny: how do i change /my/ timeout settings tho? | 03:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pondered your router beeing routed (SCNR) | 03:20 |
| rapha | SCNR? | 03:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rooted even | 03:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sorry Could Bot resist | 03:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Not | 03:21 |
| rapha | lol | 03:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf scnr | 03:21 |
| infobot | SCNR: sorry, could not resist | 03:21 |
| rapha | :) | 03:21 |
| rapha | it's a TP-Link R470T+ and it's a POS to use another acronym | 03:21 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/998088 | 03:21 |
| KotCzarny | 2014, but if its firefox go to about:config and type: timeout | 03:22 |
| rapha | definitely not the right size for a house of 8 parties, 16 people, ~80 devices | 03:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/11936/Tp-link.html | 03:22 |
| rapha | KotCzarny: the browsers time out after, like, 5 minutes. as i said, my brain's timeout is much shorter. | 03:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err yep | 03:22 |
| rapha | DocScrutinizer05: good thing the tp-link is not directly reachable from the outside :) | 03:23 |
| KotCzarny | rapha, you can also tether your computer to the phone ;) | 03:23 |
| rapha | hhhhh | 03:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rapha: but from inside, via a compromised device !!! :-o | 03:23 |
| rapha | and suck up the rest of my 500 remaining MB for this month? i'll be in a train for 6 hours tomorrow and another 6 on sunday | 03:24 |
| KotCzarny | or you can just go to sleep and wait for better time ;) | 03:24 |
| rapha | DocScrutinizer05: hmm that would at least explain why the problem seems to be getting worse over time | 03:24 |
| KotCzarny | cheers! | 03:24 |
| rapha | KotCzarny: that sounds like the healthy choice :) | 03:24 |
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| rapha | hmm guys | 03:25 |
| rapha | what's the N900's default password to use for sudo? | 03:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | none | 03:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the command is "root" | 03:26 |
| rapha | oh | 03:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you need rootsh installed for that | 03:26 |
| rapha | ah | 03:26 |
| rapha | :( | 03:26 |
| rapha | well, not like it had working apt repos anyways, plus it's in the same stupid wlan network | 03:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why :( ? | 03:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh | 03:27 |
| rapha | the sun will rise on more days | 03:27 |
| rapha | (obama said something like this recently) | 03:28 |
| rapha | anywho, g'night dear maemoers! | 03:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/29553254 but that doesn't help you either, right? Sory then | 03:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | If I could find rootsh.deb I'd pastebin it for you, you should be able to click on it in browser and HAM will install it (possibly you need to first download it and then click on the local file URI) | 03:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | rapha: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle-1.3/free/r/rootsh/rootsh_1.8_all.deb | 06:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | rapha: it's really tiiiny | 06:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so as long as you can chat on IRC you also can download this file, then move it to N900 and install it e.g. by clicking it in browser | 06:07 |
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| kerio | yo does the current osso mediaplayer stack support opus? | 12:29 |
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| jon_y | needs to support HEVC :) | 12:34 |
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| kerio | ayy lmao | 12:36 |
| kerio | opus is actually incredibly light | 12:36 |
| kerio | unlike hevc | 12:36 |
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| bencoh | kerio: our gst-ffmpeg is too old to decode opus | 12:45 |
| bencoh | I actually wonder if we could update gst-ffmpeg to something not antic while still sticking to gstreamer 0.10 | 12:48 |
| bencoh | (for ABI reasons .... as usual) | 12:48 |
| bencoh | one could also port the 0.10.x gst-ffmpeg to latest ffmpeg API, but, err ... | 12:49 |
| KotCzarny | better to focus on mainline kernel and the rest | 12:50 |
| kerio | says the dude with the competing media player >:c | 12:59 |
| KotCzarny | its nice to have alternative, isnt it? | 12:59 |
| KotCzarny | not to mention i can play anything LATEST libav can, and more! | 12:59 |
| KotCzarny | and if omp could provide ui suiting my needs i wouldnt have to write it in the first place | 13:00 |
| kerio | does flac work quickly enough on the n900 cpu? | 13:00 |
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| KotCzarny | grab some cmdline player and check? | 13:01 |
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| KotCzarny | i think bigger problem is providing data quick enough on crappy wifi :P | 13:01 |
| kerio | "some" >:3 | 13:01 |
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| Vajb | what are opus and hevc? | 13:13 |
| Vajb | i use opm and it suits my needs well | 13:13 |
| KotCzarny | media formats/codecs | 13:13 |
| Vajb | tho i would switch to oscp if it integrated to omp skin ;) | 13:13 |
| KotCzarny | o.O | 13:14 |
| Vajb | (jk) | 13:14 |
| KotCzarny | (for a moment i was considering big-and-ugly ui :P ) | 13:14 |
| Vajb | hehee | 13:14 |
| bencoh | I actually have a really tiny (mplayer-like) gstreamer player for n900 lying around :) | 13:18 |
| bencoh | never released it, but.... | 13:18 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: maemo coding competition | 13:19 |
| KotCzarny | its a chance to show it for the people | 13:19 |
| bencoh | huhu | 13:19 |
| bencoh | it's not exactly pretty | 13:19 |
| bencoh | well the code is quite clean, the minimalist UI needs some love | 13:19 |
| KotCzarny | if it works, has no meamleaks and is useful, why not? | 13:19 |
| bencoh | but at least it has an overlay UI (buttons/slider on top of video) | 13:20 |
| KotCzarny | some people love minimalism | 13:21 |
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| bencoh | I do ;) | 13:21 |
| KotCzarny | slap on maemo integration and you may have a winner ;) | 13:21 |
| bencoh | http://pastebin.notk.org/pastebin.php?show=d1e4163ad | 13:21 |
| bencoh | it never passed the first commit :) | 13:22 |
| Vajb | i do love minimalistic stuff too... | 13:22 |
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| bencoh | I actually started it out of frustration at cutetube and its tearing artifacts | 13:23 |
| KotCzarny | that's how software comes to life usually | 13:24 |
| bencoh | and mafw-gst-renderer needs to be restarted quite often | 13:24 |
| bencoh | note that the tearing artifacts aren't cutetube's fault, but qt4/phonon and the way they handle video | 13:24 |
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| rapha | DocScrutinizer05: thank you for the really tiny file! i really had to go to bed yesterday as my eyes were starting to betray me. I'll do the rooting today! | 14:30 |
| KotCzarny | 'rooting', hehe | 14:34 |
| zGrr | ... roots, bloody roots. | 14:43 |
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| L29Ah | stupid maemo features obsolete timezones | 16:54 |
| Wizzup | you can probably just copy the new ones over | 16:57 |
| freemangordon | L29Ah: do you have cssu installed? | 17:43 |
| freemangordon | as timezone info there is from 2013 iirc, not that bad | 17:43 |
| L29Ah | i guess so | 17:43 |
| freemangordon | hmm, it is even newer https://github.com/community-ssu/cityinfo/tree/master/data | 17:44 |
| freemangordon | deffinitely not *that* bad :) | 17:44 |
| freemangordon | Pali: https://github.com/community-ssu/clockd :) | 17:46 |
| Pali | great! | 18:12 |
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