IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2016-07-26

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DocScrutinizer05is *anybody* in charge to process email to garage.maemo.org? and to approve/reject suggested/requested new projects?01:47
DocScrutinizer05council: ^^^01:47
DocScrutinizer05do we have a council still?01:47
DocScrutinizer05juiceme: ^^^01:54
DocScrutinizer05https://garage.maemo.org/admin/approve-pending.php  Habit Jewel of today, LighttpWeb for N900 as of 2015-06-01 Mon 18:2101:55
DocScrutinizer05pretty non-surprising we got no new devels when their requests to start a garage project are simply ignored01:56
DocScrutinizer05btw I'm almost glad somebody failed to clean my email out of the garage.m.o mail-alias, seems I'm the only one on that alias anyway (who actually receives those notification mails, and *cares* about them)01:57
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Win7Machappy to serve, yes02:47
Win7Macthought you know of #maemo-meeting, IF you want to adress us?02:48
Win7Macand no, i got that mail too, as others02:49
Win7MacSince "somebody failed to clean your email out of the garage.m.o mail-alias" just go ahead02:51
Win7MacIs council really in charge here?02:52
Win7MacI thought we got maintainers? (lacking, ofc...)02:53
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* DocScrutinizer05 mumbles some curses about genuine duties of council, approving garage projects being just one of them, appointing maintainers another. Then proceeds to fix his fsckdup /ignore list03:38
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MaxdamantusLook ma, no malloc: https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/23783a33d9ec43e8be42632566e8d1f908:58
Maxdamantus10:47:38 < DocScrutinizer05> do we have a council still?08:59
Maxdamantushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5oLQVieB4U08:59
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KotCzarnyhe he09:44
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WizzupMaxdamantus: only alloca? ;-)10:01
MaxdamantusNo. Only calls to glibc functions.10:02
KotCzarnyonly static mallocs on stack ;)10:02
MaxdamantusWhat stack? gcc -O4 inlines everything.10:02
Maxdamantuswell, except for `failp`.10:02
KotCzarnyand im pretty sure some glibc functions still use malloc10:02
KotCzarnymaxd,thought O3 is the max?10:02
MaxdamantusNot really.10:03
MaxdamantusIt has -O4 as well, but whether or not it's "the max" is difficult to say.10:03
KotCzarnyPattern not found  (press RETURN)10:03
KotCzarnyin manual10:03
MaxdamantusThey're all just aliases for a bunch of optimisation flags.10:03
KotCzarny -O  -O0  -O1  -O2  -O3  -Os -Ofast -Og10:04
KotCzarnyunless you have edited gcc specs on your system10:04
MaxdamantusOh, maybe it doesn't exist then.10:04
Maxdamantusso -O310:04
* Maxdamantus wonders how long he's been writing -O4 for.10:05
Maxdamantus  -O<number>                  Set optimization level to <number>10:06
MaxdamantusSeems like it could theoretically enable extra things with arbitrary numbers, dunno.10:06
KotCzarnynope10:06
Maxdamantus* toplev.c: Add flag_ip, enable by default at -O4+ (This is not set in stone, and thus, not documented).10:09
KotCzarnyhttps://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/master/gcc/opts.c#L38010:11
Maxdamantusif ((unsigned int) opts->x_optimize > 255) opts->x_optimize = 255;10:12
KotCzarnybest test,compile at O3 then at O4 andbinary compare10:13
MaxdamantusThey produce the same binaries in this case.10:13
KotCzarny(drat, my spacebar is dying)10:13
KotCzarnyhttp://cboard.cprogramming.com/c-programming/125896-gcc-o4-what-use.html#post93827110:15
KotCzarnysame output10:15
KotCzarnyhttps://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GCC_optimization#What_about_-O_levels_higher_than_3.3F10:16
Maxdamantusfwiw, the quoted code there seems to be out-of-date.10:20
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WizzupMaxdamantus: what gcc are you using10:31
WizzupI see no -O410:31
Wizzupah,10:31
* Wizzup read backlog now10:31
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MaxdamantusBut yes, afaics it isn't going to have any effect.10:34
Maxdamantus(based on looking at the actual gcc source code, not some quote of a random snippet from 2008 on the Gentoo wiki)10:35
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Wizzup-O>3 is the same as -O3, yes11:19
Wizzupafk11:19
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enycHrrrm12:29
enycis the N900 camera application crashing (and occasionalyl creating unreadable 'unable to display image' jpgs) a known fault?12:29
bencohanything in dmesg? (segv, oom, ....)12:38
Siceloand maybe permissions on the DCIM directory?12:41
Siceloi seem to remember N900 camera application being very fussy12:41
KotCzarnynever had cam app crash (on stock)12:42
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MaxdamantusIt sometimes crashes for me.12:51
Maxdamantusfwiw, I remember it having serious issues when the DCIM directory had lots of files in it.12:51
Maxdamantus(so I wrote a script to move them from DCIM to other directories based on their timestamps)12:52
enycbencoh: i'll look next time it happens12:52
enycMaxdamantus: noted, // understood12:52
enycMaxdamantus: ext4 on sdcard DCIM/ directory ... nothing special12:52
Maxdamantusalso, for additional logging you might want to run syslogd.12:55
Siceloand set up logrotate :)12:58
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enycHrrm....17:12
enycI'm sure I've had dune(opendune??) installed on maemo ok17:12
enycnow trying to apt-git install opendune  complains about uninstallable 'bzip2' package  althought there seems to be bzip2 already due to busybox or similar17:12
enyci wonder if this is down to some change e.g.  maemo.nokia.com no longer working? etc17:13
bencohdunno, do you use any mirrors?17:20
enycerr not that i knew about, but do use a cssu/thumb17:22
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bencohyeah I meant, mirrors for maemo.nokia.com17:30
bencohcssu doesnt change that17:30
enychrrm, seemingcly, not, what should i change to / how ?17:31
enyconly  https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./   current line17:32
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bencoh~mirrors17:34
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143  or extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error, or see ~rmo-new17:34
bencohnote I have no idea whether it is really related to your error :)17:35
bencohI dont even know if we have a "bzip217:35
bencoh"bzip2"* package there. maybe it's in extras-*17:35
enychttps://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#fremantle_repos_.28copy.26paste_sources.list.2917:36
enyc(appears more upd to date) -- also -- Host maemo-archive.wedrop.it not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)17:37
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enycbencoh: that mirrors link needs sorting, thats out of date clearly17:37
bencohwhere do you see that wedrop.it?17:38
bencohoh, wtf17:38
bencohthat's not the infobot key I was looking for :)17:39
bencoh~mirror17:39
infobotwell, mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143  or extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error, or see ~rmo-new17:39
bencohhmmm17:39
bencoh~factinfo mirror17:40
infoboterror: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required)17:40
infobotmirror -- it has been requested 22 times, last by bencoh, 22s ago.17:40
bencohpff17:40
bencoh~repos17:42
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories, or see ~jrrepos17:42
L29Ah~jrrepos17:42
infobot[jrrepos] http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/17:42
bencohwhat a mess :)17:42
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KotCzarnyl29ah: wut.17:52
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reinobping DocScrutinizer5118:16
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juicemeDocScrutinizer05, hiya!22:04
juicemesure we have council.22:05
juicemeI think the maemo access stuff and repositories is handled by merlin1991. All the posting to council list and admin list should go to him too22:06
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