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| luke-jr | how to tell fake N900 from real N900 on ebay? :x | 04:25 |
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| ds3 | by unit, examine :D | 04:42 |
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| fishbulb | hey is the fmms guy here? | 06:55 |
| fishbulb | I'm receiving MMS but every time I send one it shows the blue arrow, but the other person doesn't get the picture | 06:56 |
| fishbulb | I don't know if the blue arrow means it's sent or sending... is there something I can check? | 06:57 |
| fishbulb | also how do I email stuff, I can't log into gmail. | 06:57 |
| fishbulb | not with the ancient browser | 06:57 |
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| Oksana | Modest, the default email client | 07:12 |
| Oksana | Open-source, too, as far as I remember | 07:12 |
| Oksana | fishbulb: ^ Modest works nicely with GMail | 07:13 |
| fishbulb | I wonder if it's already on my phone | 07:15 |
| fishbulb | man I'm on the last keyboard and screen | 07:15 |
| fishbulb | after this I'll have to buy some fucking android | 07:21 |
| Oksana | What about #neo900 or #dragonbox-pyra or pocket chip #chipsters ? | 07:24 |
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| luke-jr | fishbulb: I'm going with the Pyra next :p | 07:49 |
| fishbulb | those are all too expensive | 07:51 |
| fishbulb | seriously I have this phone because I'm fucking broke | 07:51 |
| luke-jr | O.o | 07:53 |
| luke-jr | pretty sure there's cheaper androids | 07:53 |
| luke-jr | or even feature phones | 07:53 |
| luke-jr | also, pocket chip is $60 | 07:54 |
| Sicelo | i hope you going to send me | 08:05 |
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| Sicelo | echan, sorry | 08:05 |
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| bencoh | fishbulb: modest is installed by default | 08:31 |
| fishbulb | what's pocket chip | 08:35 |
| fishbulb | where's modest? | 08:35 |
| bencoh | "E-mail" ? ... | 08:37 |
| fishbulb | I tried starting it in the command line and it failed | 08:37 |
| fishbulb | shit. | 08:37 |
| Oksana | Looks like http://wiki.maemo.org/images/thumb/5/5c/Email.png/500px-Email.png | 08:38 |
| Oksana | Type modest or modest.launch in commandline | 08:38 |
| fishbulb | modest came up with a bunch of errors | 08:38 |
| bencoh | I suppose you're still not using cssu? | 08:39 |
| fishbulb | this is normally a bug in some application using the D-B-S library | 08:39 |
| fishbulb | I'm using cssu | 08:39 |
| fishbulb | am I supposed to not be using that or something | 08:40 |
| fishbulb | man this install is years old | 08:40 |
| Oksana | Try modest.launch then. Not as root, as far as I know | 08:40 |
| fishbulb | segmentation fault | 08:41 |
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| fishbulb | what the hell. | 08:41 |
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| bencoh | you're not supposed to run .launch files | 08:42 |
| bencoh | I mean, it should work out of the box | 08:42 |
| fishbulb | here it is | 08:43 |
| fishbulb | I've never used it | 08:43 |
| bencoh | and .launcher files are libraries | 08:43 |
| fishbulb | connecting to nokia servers to check service availability.... | 08:43 |
| fishbulb | I have SERIOUSLY never used it | 08:43 |
| Oksana | Modest is nice, even though I have never figured out how to search letters. Tracker tracks emails, afaik, but haven't ever seen any search-emails interface | 08:44 |
| fishbulb | my account has 2 step auth, can I use it through this? | 08:44 |
| Oksana | Hopefully, but doubtfully | 08:44 |
| Oksana | Modest can use SSL, but other than that... | 08:45 |
| fishbulb | there's nowhere to put the code | 08:45 |
| bencoh | do thunderbird and the likes support 2step auth? | 08:46 |
| bencoh | not that it really makes sense for a client that's supposed to be always on .... | 08:46 |
| fishbulb | it's failing every time I use an email address that has no 2 step | 08:48 |
| fishbulb | user name or password incorrect. what's the username supposed to be? | 08:49 |
| Oksana | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=430858 | 08:51 |
| fishbulb | fuck all this | 08:52 |
| Oksana | Name: "Name you want to appear on emails" Username: "Your email username" Password: "Your email password" E-mail address: "Your email" Account Type: IMAP4 Incoming server: imap.gmail.com Secure Authentication: "leave unchecked" Secure Connection: SSL (IMAP4S) Outgoing server: smtp.gmail.com Secure authentication: Login Secure Connection: SSL | 08:52 |
| * Oksana does have Gmail in Modest, worked for ages, and still works | 08:52 | |
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| Oksana | Lol, should work with 2step Auth https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185834?hl=en&topic=1099588&ctx=topic#ASPs | 08:55 |
| Oksana | Complicated: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 How does Mozilla Thunderbird not support the latest security standards? | 08:56 |
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| Oksana | Any way to add https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185834#ASPs https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 into a guide "How to make Modest work with Google's 2-Step Verification"? | 08:58 |
| KotCzarny | luke-jr: screenshot, we will help | 09:08 |
| KotCzarny | usually port locations are different, logo is moved/wrong font, desktop screenshot is weird/ugly | 09:09 |
| luke-jr | http://www.ebay.com/itm/121982570243 | 09:09 |
| KotCzarny | seems ok | 09:10 |
| KotCzarny | i mean, no one is going to use fake so long that keys are worn out ;) | 09:10 |
| KotCzarny | but pricy | 09:11 |
| KotCzarny | especially its without battery | 09:11 |
| KotCzarny | and no box/accessories | 09:11 |
| KotCzarny | to make sure ask seller fot the photo of the back without the backplate | 09:12 |
| KotCzarny | s/fot /for / | 09:12 |
| luke-jr | hmm, so I should expect a replacement unit even cheaper? :o | 09:18 |
| KotCzarny | well, in .pl you can get working n900 for ~25-30usd | 09:32 |
| KotCzarny | and broken usb one for 10-15 | 09:32 |
| KotCzarny | yours has good screen, but worn keys and no battery/acc | 09:34 |
| KotCzarny | so its up to you if its worth the price | 09:34 |
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| Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: is there a way to force bq27200 to reset? removing battery for a while doesn't seem to help | 15:35 |
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| KotCzarny | sicelo, insert different battery? | 15:37 |
| Sicelo | doesn't do either | 15:38 |
| Sicelo | i don't want to blindy blame replacement-bme (i don't see how that would cause it anyway) | 15:39 |
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| ceene | Sicelo: i think you need to do a calibration cycle | 17:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: there are commands you can send to bq27200, but I dunno if reset is onre pf them. anyway a learningcycle won't help | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | one of them* | 19:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: there POR (see page 13) | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and POR is "no effect" when written :-/ | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe this one >> PRST Partial reset. This command requestsin FLAGS. This command is intendeda reset of all RAM registers exceptfor manufacturing use. NAC, LMD, and the CI bit<< | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | damn, pdf c&p | 19:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Partial reset. This command requests a reset of all RAM registers except NAC, LMD, and the CI bit in FLAGS. This command is intended for manufacturing use. | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | set bit3 on MODE register (0x01), then write 0xA9 to CMD register 0x00 | 19:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or FRST Bit1 >> Full reset. This command bit requests a full reset. A full reset reinitializes all RAM registers, including the NAC, LMD, and FLAGS registers. This command is intended for manufacturing use. << | 19:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | also interesting: WRTNAC >> WRTNAC is used to transfer data from the AR registers to NAC. Other registers are updated as appropriate. This command is useful during the pack manufacture and test to initialize the gauge to match the estimated battery capacity.<< | 19:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | possibly faster than multiple learning cycles | 19:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | damn! linkedin makes konqueror eat all the available swap and RAM, which *still* brings a contemporary linux system to a grinding halt - even with 60GB of swap which I happened to have activated because of... no good reason | 20:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I urgently need sane ulimits | 20:38 |
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| ds3 | you need to run konqueror in a container | 20:52 |
| ds3 | then limit its swap there | 20:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why not ulimits? | 20:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | (bash) help ulimit | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/45331333 | 21:03 |
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| ds3 | ulimit results in the process getting killed | 21:12 |
| ds3 | container can force that process to swap | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err what? | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | killing the process is exactly what I want, to avoid it starting swap hell | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when konqueror allocates 20GB memory while my system only has 8GB RAM, even the mouse pointer freezes thanks to kswapd activity | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | basically everything else gets swapped out of RAM, to a highly busy swap partition, so even when it might eventually get swapped in again, it takes ages | 21:18 |
| ds3 | a container will avoid that | 21:19 |
| ds3 | it will limit the amount of swap and thrashing on other processes | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ulimit too aiui | 21:19 |
| ds3 | ulimit is a blunt instruement; a container can limit damage to just konqueror itself | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't see the rationale to run my generic html/filemanager in a container | 21:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | errrr, how would ulimit damage anything else when a) only konqueror is violating the limits, and b) the ulimit setting is konqueror specific anyway ( bash -c "ulimit -4 2000000; konqueror" ) | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/-4/-V/ | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | -v even | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and -m as well | 21:23 |
| ds3 | it wouldn't but if you ever had a critical page opened on konqueror.... | 21:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | when that critical page hogs my RAM, then it's truly critical | 21:52 |
| kerio | the only critical pages i have are pages of ram used by zfs | 21:52 |
| * kerio shakes his fist at the ARC | 21:52 | |
| KotCzarny | what about network stack pages? | 21:52 |
| kerio | i should buy more ram | 21:53 |
| kerio | to appease zfs | 21:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | saturn:~ # ps aux|grep konqueror|wc -l | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 38 | 21:54 |
| KotCzarny | or switch to raw disk access and just remember where are your files | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if one of those instances goes mad, I what that instance getting killed, rather thanmy whole system getting killed | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw I don't see how the end result in user experience and system impact would be any different by using containers, other than a container separating my filemanager from my files | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | containers might be fine for firefox | 21:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and actually I already pondered some similar approach for FF | 21:56 |
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| zamn900 | what's up folks with yappari? | 22:59 |
| KotCzarny | cancelled | 22:59 |
| KotCzarny | ceene bought android | 22:59 |
| zamn900 | obscene | 22:59 |
| kerio | rip | 23:00 |
| zamn900 | then bb maemo and bb n900 | 23:00 |
| zamn900 | sad story anyway | 23:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hey! how about applying same trick to kill all android platforms? ;-P create an app and share for free, then tweak it in a way so it only will work on maemo | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | android and particularly whatapp is the sad story | 23:50 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 ponders to actually get a whatsapp account, just to send a logic bomb to all those individuals whatsapp will suggest as "friends" | 23:52 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | evidently it been those who not only used whatsapp but also shared my personal data to those suckers against my explicit intentions to keep the stuff undisclosed to anybody else | 23:54 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 has further ideas: deploy an anti-recaptcha and a fake option to "log in using your gmail account" that instantly puts you on the blacklist of the service | 23:57 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you can't convince the sheep, segregate and fight them | 23:58 |
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