IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2016-06-15

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DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: kernel stuff to start with01:16
DocScrutinizer05nokia_av.ko or somesuch01:16
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DocScrutinizer05watch -d -n1 'for f in /sys/devices/platform/nokia-av/type /sys/devices/platform/nokia-av/detect /sys/devices/platform/nokia-av/autodetect /sys/devices/platform/nokia-av/eci* /sys/devices/platform/soc-audio/eci_mode /sys/devices/platform/nokia-av/madc; do echo "$f: `cat $f`"; done'01:19
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DocScrutinizer05anyway dbus system bus is your best friend here, I guess (whoever is sender 1.9)
DocScrutinizer05I'd almost bet 1.9 is HAL01:38
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DocScrutinizer051.19 prolly PED01:39
DocScrutinizer05a slightly more comprehensive log of a plug event:
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OksanaIs there a way to ask sysklogd to log slightly less? Like, I am worrying about RootFS space, so either log at home, or log less? | And is there something better for debian packaging than debhelper? Like, I want to pack not-binary package, smilies theme, to create an alternative to user/default of rtcom-messaging-ui and chat_smiley_* of osso-icons-default03:53
OksanaSeriously, the default-Nokia's-smilies should have been in their own package, it's atrocious how many pictures are pushed into osso-icons-default, and the configs referring to these pictures are in entirely different package(s)03:54
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DocScrutinizer05Oksana: rsyslog config allows arbitrary log destinations for arbitrary (sub)sets of logline types04:30
DocScrutinizer05Oksana: see /etc/syslog.conf  the line >>*.*;auth,authpriv.none          -/var/log/syslog<<04:31
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DocScrutinizer05*.* means "log all to..." - you could reduce the amount that gets logged by excluding stuff you don't want to get logged04:32
DocScrutinizer05or you change the file spec (-/var/log/syslog) to e.g. -/home/user/syslog04:34
OksanaYes, have seen it. Could probably tell it to use different location. Does it need to be restarted to know the changes in config? And, I would mostly want to know how-why it shutdowns and reboots. And why the filesystem is called BCM2048B0 Initialization Configuration, instead of Nokia N90004:34
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DocScrutinizer05err prolly kill sighup rsyslogd or somesuch, but reboot is simpler I guess04:35
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DocScrutinizer05man syslog.conf is an insult04:48
DocScrutinizer05typos and blabla04:48
DocScrutinizer05anyway nota bene: >> You may prefix each entry with the minus ‘‘-’’ sign to omit syncing the file after every logging.  Note that you might lose information if the system crashes  right        behind a write attempt.  Nevertheless this might give you back some performance, especially if you run programs that use logging in a very verbose manner.<<04:50
DocScrutinizer05you probably might want to define a generic logging rule with "-" and a special logging rule for e.g. .err etc, or just for kernel crashes etc, without "-" for the same destination file04:52
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DocScrutinizer05but honestly, what a manpage is that, stating stuff like >> Don’t think a mail would be sent, that might        be too late.<<04:55
DocScrutinizer05(( "-" syncing))  *.=crit;kern.none  /var/log/syslog04:57
DocScrutinizer05*.*  -/var/log/syslog04:58
DocScrutinizer05(( "-" syncing))  *.crit  /var/log/syslog05:00
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DocScrutinizer05also see this abomination that systemd gives you nowadays:
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fishbulbhi, is there a pre packged script for n900 bluetooth pan06:36
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fishbulbmy buttons are wearing out and i can't type all that crap into a script right now06:37
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fishbulbi really need internet on my nexus 706:37
fishbulbat a nospital and ave to look up shit for forms06:38
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ceenewell, so today is the day that i've fallen prey of the evilness of whatsapp, as my main number has been unbanned and I've registered again with my new android phone13:17
KotCzarnydid it work?13:20
ceenei hope i don't get banned for using their software13:20
ceenemaybe i'm now on a blacklist13:20
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Vajbshame on u ceene. I just stopped using it with instructions to reach me from jabber.14:33
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fishbulbhey does yappari work again yet?15:02
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Vajbfishbulb: no15:08
fishbulbis it ever likely to?15:09
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Vajbi would not hold my breath for it, but who knows...15:15
Vajband besides last i checked yappari works for me. I can send messages just fine, just can't receive them...15:21
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ceenefishbulb: no, it won't15:44
ceenei've stopped trying15:45
fishbulbthat's a shame :/15:45
ceenebut i was getting banned after registering15:46
ceenewithout any clear cause15:46
ceeneso i just couldn't even test anything at all15:46
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bruce_lee\(^_^)/ @all16:25
bruce_leethis might be a work-around:
bruce_leeI haven't tried it myself yet16:25
bruce_leefishbulb: ^^^ a commandLine-whatsApp16:26
bruce_leefishbulb: I haven't tried it myself yet16:32
bruce_leeas far as I know, it works on nokia n90016:32
fishbulbwouldn't it need to be cross compiled16:32
bruce_leeI think I read so in this channel16:32
fishbulbI don't like command line16:32
fishbulbthat's a lot of uncertainty16:32
fishbulbI'll wait until someone uses it for sure16:32
azkayyowsup just looks like a library in python, the cli is just a sample type thing it seems.16:50
Vajbfor what i have read i recall that ceene was using yowsup to compare what's wrong with his  version and yowsup got him banned as well16:53
bencohyeah yowsup is having the very same issue afaiu16:54
Vajbalso was it u bencoh, who said that yowsup wont work on n900 because of some lib etc?16:59
bencohI dont think so, but I do remember something like that regarding a libpurple plugin17:02
bruce_leemy python is not really existent, from the readme on github: Requires python2.6+, or python3.0 +17:03
bruce_leeI guess that possible on n90017:03
bruce_leethe rest can be done using "pip install ..."17:03
bruce_leeon my n900 the following command: python --version17:08
bruce_leeshows me that I have installed: Python 2.5.417:08
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Sicelobruce_lee: that's what ceene was trying to rebase on18:14
Sicelobruce_lee: look at their issues .. things aren't good at all there18:14
Sicelothankfully, everyone in my family has finally agree to get on telegram just for me :)18:14
Sicelo*immediate family18:15
DocScrutinizer05tell them now they're way more safe against TLA interceptions18:30
* DocScrutinizer05 ponders to encode encrypted (SIP/)ZRTP into a video live stream by steganography18:33
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azkaybruce_lee: you can get python3+ on n900 without too much trouble18:47
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DocScrutinizer05yep, they can coexist afaik18:53
DocScrutinizer05however python2.5 is sort of mandatory and you shouldn't deinstall or replace it18:54
DocScrutinizer05~systemd hungry18:55
infobot[systemd hungry]
DocScrutinizer05and they stopped watching maybe a year ago18:55
azkayWhat Doc said. I kept 2.5 when I put 3.4 or whatever was in the repos18:56
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: ^^^21:45
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infoboti guess maemo-flashing is, or - on linux PC - download&extract, cd into it, do sudo ./; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing22:06
DocScrutinizer05Wizzup: ?22:12
KotCzarny~listval nokia22:19
KotCzarny~listvalues nokia22:19
infobotFactoid search of 'nokia' by value (22 of 49): #harmattan update ;; #maemo cherry ;; #maemo emmc ;; #maemo emmc2 ;; #maemo sr ;; #maemo supl ;; combined ;; council ;; ddp ;; epoc ;; flasher ;; flatbatrecover ;; gsm unlock ;; jamey ;; lcuk ;; maemo-sdk ;; mallum ;; microb ;; n8linux ;; n950 ;; n950flash ;; n950order.22:19
infoboti heard combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see, or
KotCzarnywizzup ^22:20
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: well, maybe we should check our PPA for such a flows. though, I guess TI are better than QC :)22:20
WizzupI need to flash two n900s22:20
KotCzarnywizzup, but just use that flashing script22:21
KotCzarnyit downloads firmware too22:21
WizzupKotCzarny: I am on ARM22:22
WizzupI need to use 0xffff22:22
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WizzupI'll ask someone with an intel laptop ;-)22:29
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DocScrutinizer05~tell Wizzup about lazyflashing22:51
DocScrutinizer05Wizzup: check and edit the script to change falsher to 0xffff and adapt the cmd syntax where needed22:53
DocScrutinizer05forget about "images" anyway22:53
DocScrutinizer05the script takes care about that part22:53
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WizzupDocScrutinizer05: fwiw the flags between 0xffff and flasher are different23:11
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Sicelohi jonwil23:18
* jonwil wonders if there has been any interesting happenings in the Maemo community lately...23:18
freemangordonjonwil: hi!23:19
bencohheyya :)23:19
DocScrutinizer05Wizzup: that's why I said >>check and edit the script to [...] adapt the cmd syntax where needed<<23:26
jonwilsounds like nothing interesting has been happening...23:26
KotCzarnywell, i made oscp more awesome23:26
KotCzarnyif that counts23:26
Wizzupjonwil: well, I've been working on some blogs posts, it seems more mainlining work is being done23:27
WizzupI don't know what exactly it is you're looking for23:27
jonwilmainlining work is good :23:27
DocScrutinizer05yeah, your definition of "interesting" might be different23:27
infobotfrom memory, lazyflashing is
jonwilbut it seems like work on the rest of the software stack has basically stopped for the most part (no commits to CSSU recently)23:28
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