IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2016-06-10

DocScrutinizer05oooh good. thought you can't install them when the URL isn't correct00:15
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DocScrutinizer05but probably the URL isn't that security critical and could get forged if needed. The package signatures should still be intact even on mirrors00:16
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sixwheeledbeastany one heard of emoji?00:22
sixwheeledbeastI have been living under a rock apparently00:24
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Vajbu mean those moving smileys?00:30
sixwheeledbeastWell yeah that's what i am told00:31
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Vajbah, the stuff u could learn in facebook ;)00:35
keriono, emojis don't move00:51
sixwheeledbeastWell I found out that N900 cannot understand them and silently drops the whole SMS00:53
sixwheeledbeastI never heard of them until diagnosing missing messages.00:54
Vajbsixwheeledbeast: actually i've received them as mms.00:54
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keriothose are not emojis00:56
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kerioemojis are unicode characters00:56
sixwheeledbeastyep that's what I have just read. I have also just come across a patch for the same issue on Harmattan.
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DocScrutinizer05huh? non-standard code SMS get silently dropped on N900?01:00
sixwheeledbeastIt would appear this patched version of libsms-utils works on N900.01:01
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* DocScrutinizer05 seems in a need to dig up his old Nokia 211001:02
DocScrutinizer05while It wasn't ingerently capable to send non-ascii SMS, you could copy/insert SMS snippets that had those non-ascii chars (which immediately halves the number of available chars ber SMS)01:04
x-systemHello. I  have tried  improve my emmc whith fsck, but it filed. I in backupmenu export mydoc(27gb) to linuxpc (ubuntu).01:05
DocScrutinizer05plus it displayed virtually all, even the most bizarre, fontsets/codepages01:05
x-systemNow I also have trubles with backupmenu.01:05
DocScrutinizer05x-system: you probably will need to share (and also inquire and follow) way better / more detailed info, when we shall help you01:07
DocScrutinizer05e.g. a session log of your fsck would be the minimum for us to check what happened. Rather you should probably have done that fsck "interactively" in here, so we could have helped with it01:10
x-systemOk, not problem. 1 sec01:11
DocScrutinizer05anyway now when you can't even get into BootMenu menu anymore, your only options are rescueOS and/or flashing01:11
x-systemI can get into BootMenu.01:12
x-systemNow I rebooted my n900001:12
sixwheeledbeastI have no care to use emoji, but silently dropping SMS because it contains one is annoying.01:14
DocScrutinizer05I don't yet buy that01:14
DocScrutinizer05but... might be possible01:14
DocScrutinizer05it sucks the handler stack is mostly closed01:16
x-system<DocScrutinizer05> I have connect n900 with ubuntu. sudo file -s /dev/sdb2   /dev/sdb2: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data, UUID=0725c463-783b-40a1-89f0-9e3b849077fb (needs journal recovery) (large files)01:16
DocScrutinizer05ugh what? journal?01:17
DocScrutinizer05no journal on VFAT01:17
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DocScrutinizer05MyDocs is VFAT not ext301:17
DocScrutinizer05unless somebody messes with it01:17
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x-systemDocScrutinizer05, sory, I have problem with irc web chat) Can you send me last mesage?01:20
DocScrutinizer05MyDocs is VFAT not ext301:20
DocScrutinizer05I dunno ubuntu but I honestly hope /dev/sdb is not one of your local harddrives01:22
x-systemsdb1 - mkdosfs - mydocs, sdb3: swap , sdb2 - ext301:23
x-systemmydocs is not ext3)01:23
x-systemNow I shuld umount sdb2 and run fsck?01:24
x-systemwhat why?01:24
DocScrutinizer05didn't you say your problem was with MyDocs?01:24
x-systemI have problem whith backup. I can't do backup from backupmenu, because: Error: cannot mount eMMC. Try using FSCK mode and see if that fixed it.01:27
DocScrutinizer05is that the *only* problem you have?01:27
DocScrutinizer05also, *WHICH* backup you're trying in BM when you get that error?01:28
x-systemI dont understand you)01:28
x-systemI dont know why bm write me error with emmc01:29
x-systemI tryid improve it with fsck, but it fail01:30
DocScrutinizer05you don't provide the needed info01:30
DocScrutinizer05I don't know what to answer01:31
x-systemhm.. What information you want?01:31
x-systemI can now run fsck and copy logs in chat01:33
infobotA "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few:,,,,; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.01:34
DocScrutinizer05but when your only problem is a error BM throws, then it's probably wiser to not do any fsck and first find out what's wrong with BM01:35
DocScrutinizer05BM can do backups of NAND root file system and of the 2GB parition at /home resp /opt01:37
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DocScrutinizer05for which of both options you get that error?01:37
DocScrutinizer05and can you boot into maemo and use your device normally?01:38
DocScrutinizer05since NAND is ubifs, I assume you get the error when trying to backup /home, since that is ext301:39
DocScrutinizer05and only ext3 can get fsck'ed, ubifs can't01:39
x-systemI do backup RootFS and OptFS.  I can boot into maemo and use devace normally.01:41
DocScrutinizer05then we need to check why BM says it can't mount OptFS aka /home01:41
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DocScrutinizer05first: check if /home is OK in running maemo system: check (and pastebin) the output of "mount"01:42
DocScrutinizer05particularly the line >>/dev/mmcblk0p2 on /home type ext3 (noatime,nodiratime,errors=continue,commit=1,data=writeback)<<01:44
DocScrutinizer05it's pretty unusual that your device works flawlessly when BM can't mount the OptFS01:49
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x-systemSory. I have some lag with my pc)))
x-systemit log mount02:18
x-systemon n90002:18
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x-systemOk, I go to sleep =)02:25
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DocScrutinizer05hmm, the mounts look ok02:32
DocScrutinizer05though NO! what the heck is >>/dev/mmcblk0p2 on /usr/lib/python2.5 type ext3<<?!02:34
DocScrutinizer05I'm not too surprised when this causes all sorts of weird bugs02:35
DocScrutinizer05shouldn't all those python mounts be type=bind?02:36
DocScrutinizer05see >>/opt/pymaemo/usr/lib/python2.5 on /usr/lib/python2.5 type bind (bind)<<02:37
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DocScrutinizer05also compare my >>/home/opt on /opt type none (bind)<< vs x-system's >>/dev/mmcblk0p2 on /opt type ext3 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,errors=continue,commit=1,data=writeback)<<02:42
DocScrutinizer05meh! what he pasted is  cat /proc/mounts  not the output of mount(8)02:51
DocScrutinizer05not exactly but almost. And not even `busybox mount` does that02:56
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azkayWonder of Mugen would let go of their n900 files08:23
azkayI knew I had thought of a non-permanent/potentially destructive way to access these:
azkayHas anyone thought of adding a pad of some sort with contacts in it? Using pressure to make contact rather than soldering to the phone. Sort of like how the old PSP analog controller was attached (little rubber brick with copper in it)08:49
KotCzarnyazkay: can you use normal img sharing hosting? shitadbucket isnt nice08:52
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x-systemhellow,  DocScrutinizer05. I saw your messages. See it.
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fishbulbis there a way to check for malicious software12:37
KotCzarnyyes, dont install suspicious stuff12:37
fishbulbthis install has been going for YEARS12:38
fishbulbthere could easily be suspicious stuff on there I totally forgot about12:38
KotCzarnyreflash and make a txt file with notes what and when you did install12:39
KotCzarnyas for checking for holes, try netstat -a, tcpdump, ps axuww and top12:39
KotCzarnythat's just for basic stuff12:40
fishbulbhow do I know which ones shouldn't be connected12:41
KotCzarnygoogle or someone with experience12:42
fishbulbexperience with maemo is why I came here12:42
KotCzarnyexperience with linux in general12:42
fishbulbI don't have experience in invading people's privacy12:43
fishbulbI do my shit and that side of it is largely ignored12:43
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fishbulbany quick pointers?13:02
fishbulbif I go into ##security it's a bunch of kids sand wannabe "hackers" saying shit they overheard, blah blah blah13:03
fishbulband likely to start fucking with my machine13:04
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: Re: Nokia N900: musb is in wrong state after boot       From: Nishanth Menon <nm@ti * com>         To: joerg Reisenweber <>, Bin Liu <b-liu@ti  - com>20:24
PaliI read20:24
DocScrutinizer05see LKML since your gmail constantly rejects my mails20:24
Paliwhat is reason for rejection?20:25
Palican you post SMTP output?20:25
DocScrutinizer05TI confirming dedication to FOSS is a good thing20:25
DocScrutinizer05err, sorry, only bounce transcript20:25
Paliand what is in bounce?20:25
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x-systemhellow,  DocScrutinizer05. I saw your messages. See it.
DocScrutinizer05hmm yes, that looks OK20:58
DocScrutinizer05so can you do a "ls -lR /home" without any errors?21:00
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x-systemDocScrutinizer05 ls -lR /home" without any errors )21:42
DocScrutinizer05then please uninstall and reinstall BM21:42
infobotmethinks backupmenu is, or one-click install handling dependency issues:
DocScrutinizer05also which maemo version you're running? make sure you updated to most recent CSSU when you are using CSSU (recommended)21:45
infobotcssu is probably, or (Community Seamless Software Update)21:45
x-systemhm..  I did before it (reinstall BM). Seven times. Different versions.  Where I see version on my n900&21:46
DocScrutinizer05in system settings menu21:47
DocScrutinizer05about product, and if applicable "about CSSU"21:47
DocScrutinizer05and please reinstall BM using the one click install as of above21:47
DocScrutinizer05I.E uninstall BM (apt-get purge ...), then browse to in N900 webbrowser and click on BM.install21:49
x-systemIn app About Maemo 5 Community SSU. version - 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1121:51
x-systemKernel - Linux Nokia Okay, I will try reinstal BM in try again later21:54
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DocScrutinizer05your system is supposedly up to date, good22:04
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x-systemhm. apt-get purge backupmenu?22:31
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x-systemI reinstall BM. Error: cannot mount the eMMC. Try using FSCK mode and .....22:52
DocScrutinizer05I really wonder what you do22:55
DocScrutinizer05are you shutting down / rebooting your system by removing battery?22:56
x-systemI remove (purge) bm, next install from browser, next reboot to BM and try backup.23:02
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