| char | http://pastebin.com/VGUkF88A | 00:01 |
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| freemangordon | char: do you still have SDK repo enabled? | 00:02 |
| char | I didn't enable it | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | well, enable it | 00:03 |
| char | I'm still looking for it | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | char: see http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/g/gcc-4.2/ | 00:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | apt-cache show mp-fremantle-generic-pr|sed "s/,/\n/g"|less +"/gcc-4.2"; FFS | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | the version you need is there | 00:03 |
| Sicelo | i'm just wondering now how other users upgrade :-/ | 00:04 |
| Sicelo | isn't this gcc-base supposed to be in one of the standard repos too? | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | Sicelo: seems somehow he managed to downgrade | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrrepos | 00:05 |
| infobot | jrrepos is, like, http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ | 00:05 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 wonders which funny prankster introduced a dependency to gcc-4.2-base into mp-fremantle-generic-pr | 00:06 | |
| freemangordon | char: or just grab the .deb from there and install it | 00:06 |
| char | it's what I'm doing | 00:06 |
| freemangordon | :) | 00:06 |
| Sicelo | is gcc-base 'bad'? /me doesn't know ... asking genuine question :) | 00:07 |
| Sicelo | i've got it too, but i've never tried to compile on device | 00:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I tried to show the files it provides | 00:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no idea why it's needed on stock maemo | 00:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | would be interesting what actually needs it | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what what in that pkg is needed | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and what* | 00:09 |
| Sicelo | has no files :P | 00:09 |
| Sicelo | lol | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rotfl | 00:09 |
| Sicelo | this is crazy | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Description: The GNU Compiler Collection (base package) | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | This package contains files common to all languages and libraries | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | contained in the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC). | 00:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Size: 101654 | 00:10 |
| Sicelo | but on N900 this is also purged out | 00:10 |
| freemangordon | man pages? | 00:10 |
| Sicelo | there's no actual file from the package available on device :p | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so what does it provide? manpages? | 00:10 |
| Sicelo | yes .. docs | 00:10 |
| Sicelo | dpkg -L gcc-4.2-base | 00:10 |
| Sicelo | and of course maemo purges these | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ROTFL!!! | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/share/doc/gcc-4.2-base/copyright | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/share/doc/gcc-4.2-base/TODO.Debian | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/share/doc/gcc-4.2-base/README.Debian | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/share/doc/gcc-4.2-base/changelog.Debian.gz | 00:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and that crap is Size: 101654 ? | 00:12 |
| Sicelo | makes sense .. | 00:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not really | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | way too many bytes | 00:13 |
| char | I still can't enable CSSU enabler due to HAM complaining about the missing gcc-4.2-base which I have installed | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrrepos | 00:13 |
| infobot | i heard jrrepos is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ | 00:13 |
| freemangordon | char: did you remove gcc? | 00:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | one-click install of sane working base repos | 00:14 |
| char | freemangordon: I'm confused now, don't I need it as it is a dependency? I can't uninstall it | 00:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, you need gcc-4.2-base | 00:15 |
| Sicelo | char: gcc & gcc-base are different things | 00:15 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 00:16 |
| char | and should get rid of "gcc"? | 00:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 00:16 |
| char | let me try | 00:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | use purge | 00:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just in case | 00:16 |
| char | purge gives unmet dependencies error | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 00:17 |
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| char | I'm trying to install stuff on the vm you linked and it works there | 00:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | at least this little exercise gives you an idea why building on device isn't recommended ;-) | 00:18 |
| char | removing gcc, again unmet dependencies | 00:18 |
| freemangordon | char: pastebin of apt-get purge error | 00:18 |
| char | DocScrutinizer05: I didn't mean anything like this for sure... | 00:18 |
| Sicelo | i think he didn't go that way. seems to me there's just other problems on his N900 .. | 00:20 |
| char | Sicelo I may indeed have problems | 00:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, so maybe a combined reflash is prescribed | 00:21 |
| char | apt-get purge -> http://pastebin.com/P53vVGFA | 00:22 |
| char | combined? | 00:22 |
| Sicelo009N | not yet. will be soon though | 00:22 |
| Sicelo009N | ah, sorry, whrong chan | 00:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing-cmdline | 00:23 |
| infobot | well, flashing-cmdline is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-04-09.log.html#t2016-04-09T01:18:12 | 00:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~combined | 00:23 |
| infobot | i heard combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 00:23 |
| freemangordon | char: try with apt-get -f install. But make sure to carefully read the output before entering yes :) | 00:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ignore the second, it's not needed when you use my cmdline | 00:23 |
| char | DocScrutinizer05: only ~flashing-cmdline will do? | 00:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-04-09.log.html#t2016-04-09T01:18:12 | 00:24 |
| char | freemangordon: what does that do? | 00:24 |
| freemangordon | char: on which Nokia PR is your device? | 00:24 |
| freemangordon | char: you can check in settings->about | 00:24 |
| Sicelo009N | i'm sure it will | 00:24 |
| Sicelo009N | damn.. sorry about these ECHAN messages :-/ | 00:25 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: chances are char's device is on PR1.1 or PR1.2 :) | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 00:26 |
| char | Maemo 5 Version:21.2011.38-1 | 00:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | looks good | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc | 00:27 |
| freemangordon | yep | 00:27 |
| freemangordon | bur: "mp-fremantle-generic-pr: Depends: libgcc1 (= 1:4.2.1-4maemo13+0m5) but 1:4.2.1-4maemo9+0m5 is installed" | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | get decent base repos!! | 00:27 |
| freemangordon | char: you should install latest libgcc as well | 00:27 |
| freemangordon | libgcc1 that is | 00:27 |
| char | what for? | 00:28 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: won;t help, as dependencies are alreadyy messed up | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah! go to http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ on device | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | click recommended | 00:28 |
| char | ok | 00:28 |
| freemangordon | char: "mp-fremantle-generic-pr: Depends: libgcc1 (= 1:4.2.1-4maemo13+0m5) but 1:4.2.1-4maemo9+0m5 is installed" | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: apt-get -f might work | 00:28 |
| freemangordon | yes | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when repos are fixed | 00:28 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 00:28 |
| char | DocScrutinizer05: I'll go to your URL, then will get back to you | 00:29 |
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| char | hold on a sec | 00:29 |
| freemangordon | anyway, /me is going afk | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I might have a beer by then | 00:29 |
| freemangordon | night | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | n8 freemangordon | 00:29 |
| char | night! | 00:29 |
| char | thanks for your help freemangordon | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | char: seems you installed gcc and that pulled in incompatible libs | 00:30 |
| Sicelo | \o freemangordon | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly a apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr might fix things, after you got "my" repos installed | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a apt-get -f also is sth you should try | 00:33 |
| char | DocScrutinizer05: I'm adding the repositories | 00:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if that doesn't help, *I* would do a combined-only reflash, since I git a decent bm-backup ;-) | 00:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~bm | 00:34 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install | 00:34 |
| char | I don't have a backup | 00:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you might wait until tomorrow when freemangordon and pali are available again, before you go for full combined reflash | 00:35 |
| char | no cmdline? | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hm? | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, wait until freemangordon is back | 00:36 |
| char | <DocScrutinizer05> ignore the second, it's not needed when you use my cmdline | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | flashing combined is supposed to be considerably safe and not lose your data and config, but... | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you never know | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you could install BM and do a decent backup, then you can reflash all you like, since restoring is a matter of minutes | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but first, see if apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr does the trick | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | should work after you enabled the working repos | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm afk, for a beer out | 00:39 |
| char | okay | 00:39 |
| char | I'll have to wait for repos updates | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in case of "emergencies" highlight DocScrutinizer51 | 00:40 |
| char | sure ;) thanks | 00:40 |
| char | apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr -> unmet dependencies | 00:47 |
| Sicelo | -f ? | 00:47 |
| char | I've just launched HAM lol.. will wait for it open to close it and try -f | 00:48 |
| char | rebootin ... | 00:50 |
| Sicelo009N | yes. sad | 00:52 |
| char | using any other phone today would be sadder | 00:54 |
| char | almost up | 00:54 |
| char | -f won't fix the unmet dependencies problem | 00:56 |
| char | apt-get -f install? | 00:57 |
| Sicelo009N | you're in dependency hell .. sorry :) | 00:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/62586594 | 01:02 |
| char | should I install libgcc1? | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe the right version, yes | 01:05 |
| char | apt-get install libgcc1 as per usual -> unmet dependencies | 01:05 |
| * Sicelo checks char's paste agan | 01:06 | |
| char | well, if I can still find all the programs I currently use and restore phonebook and SMSes I think flashing it could be a solution | 01:07 |
| char | I would enable CSSU right away, update everything and see | 01:07 |
| char | I have never used CSSU in my life | 01:07 |
| char | and it's 2016 lol | 01:07 |
| char | maybe Pidgin would get updated as well, who knows | 01:08 |
| char | I'm pretty sure the OTR plugin would be a nightmare to install as it was last year but I had found a guide | 01:08 |
| Sicelo | lastest version for N900 is 2.10.11-0maemo1 | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/tmp/apt-cache-policies.txt | 01:09 |
| char | DocScrutinizer05: I give up | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | install backupmenu! | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | make a backup | 01:10 |
| char | what can I do with it? I only have a few hundred megabytes free for backing up on my phone | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, that's a little low | 01:11 |
| char | I mean, I have 20GBs of Wikipedia dumps | 01:11 |
| Sicelo | char: n900 stock backup will allow you to save just your phonebook in case you want to reflash | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | don't you have a uSD card for the backups? | 01:11 |
| char | apparently my n900 doesn't read SD cards | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | magnet missing? | 01:12 |
| char | magnet is there.. | 01:12 |
| Sicelo | my 2nd N900 also doesn't :( | 01:12 |
| char | I have no idea why that is | 01:13 |
| char | regardless the filesystem I format them with, none of them is recognized | 01:13 |
| Sicelo | does dmesg at least 'see' it | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/cover_switch | 01:14 |
| char | if you're curious to know I will disassemble it and put an SD card. Please, endure my English if I use weird words | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/cover_switch | 01:15 |
| Sicelo009N | DocScrutinizer05: on mine always 'open' | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | either your magnet or the hall sensor is broken/missing then | 01:17 |
| Sicelo009N | magnet is in place, and the cover works fine on my other N900 .. | 01:17 |
| Sicelo009N | yes, sensor must be borked | 01:17 |
| char | always open | 01:17 |
| char | but the magnet is there | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see ^^ | 01:17 |
| Sicelo009N | i came to terms with it :) | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | try another magnet while watch cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/cover_switch | 01:18 |
| char | another magnet? | 01:18 |
| char | yeah I do have a fridge | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, an arbitrary other magnet | 01:18 |
| Sicelo009N | i bought this N900 for like 15USD .. so didn't complain too much | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | remove battery cover, move the magnet around the camera | 01:18 |
| char | always open | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :ยด( | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder what kills all those hall sensors | 01:20 |
| Sicelo009N | char: you bought your N900 used? any signs it was ever opened? | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway o/ | 01:21 |
| Sicelo009N | DocScrutinizer05: mine had been worked on by bad technician in its previous life .. probably bumped the sensour out or something | 01:21 |
| char | Sicelo009N: yes it was used and from what I can see it wasn't opened around the chassis | 01:21 |
| char | dead sensor -> no SD support | 01:22 |
| char | nice :( | 01:22 |
| char | I like the auto mount/unmount idea. Can we get rid of it? :P | 01:22 |
| Sicelo009N | yes .. hack the kernel module .. someone did it here .. forgot who | 01:23 |
| Sicelo009N | check tmo | 01:23 |
| Sicelo009N | g'nite | 01:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1457369#post1457369 | 01:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | char: you're a candidate for a full clean restart and a customized careful system config | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | get some free space on your eMMC (aka MyDocs) install BM, do a backup, then do a full backkup of MyDocs to your PC via USB | 01:26 |
| char | goodnight Sicelo! | 01:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | o/ | 01:29 |
| char | DocScrutinizer05: MyDocs is almost completely full | 01:32 |
| char | how much space do you think I need? | 01:32 |
| char | 1GB ? | 01:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | char: to start with, you could try to mv /lib/modules/current/omap_hsmmc.ko /lib/modules/current/omap_hsmmc.ko_ORIGINAL, then download https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/13580235b433268f57ca/raw/bbfb5769f2937b485dfea5145f4db8f279ec8906/omap_hsmmc.ko and rename/mv it to /lib/modules/current/omap_hsmmc.ko | 01:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 1GB is plenty | 01:34 |
| char | is this for the SD card? | 01:34 |
| char | do you think I should backup the system first? | 01:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (/lib/modules/current/omap_hsmmc.ko) then reboot with a uSD inserted and see if cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/cover_switch shows 'closed' and you can access the uSD | 01:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you're careful, you *probably* are safe with the omap_hsmmc.ko, you however could face a bootloop where kernel segfaults because of the module. Then you damn sure want a backup | 01:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you *could* try modprobe -r omap_hsmmc; then replace the file, then modprobe omap_hsmmc and see if it throws errors | 01:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if it looks good, you already can check cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/cover_switch | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if modprobe omap_hsmmc throws any errors, you better restore the original file back into place | 01:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also see man modprobe, you might try modprobe -f omap_hsmmc to override symbol incompatibilities | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wait! | 01:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | download the file to ~user, name it omap_hsmmc.ko, then for loading the module use: modprobe -vnfd ~user omap_hsmmc | 01:45 |
| char | okay, so backupmenu first | 01:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if that looks good, actually do it: modprobe -fd ~user omap_hsmmc | 01:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is safe since you don't mess with the original module, so even when your kernel OOPSes, everything will be fine abfter the inevitable reboot | 01:46 |
| char | of course I can't install backupmenu either | 01:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I suggested the above approach | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you won't need a backup hopefully | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it *should* be perfectly safe | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not giving any warranty though | 01:47 |
| char | even if the risk is slow I will avoid this, I'm too noob to risk this | 01:48 |
| char | I think I'd rather backup documents and MyDocs content, then reflash and reinstall with caution | 01:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you're not changing anything in your system since you load the module from a place where the system never will look at by itself | 01:48 |
| char | ok | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so next boot will be exactly like last boot, no matter what you did with modprobe | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but first see if you even can unload the module with modprobe -r omap_hsmmc | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if that's not working, you don't even need to start with the next steps | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | modprobe -r omap_hsmmc is definitely safe | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I owe you 3 beers if not ;-) | 01:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | did you already try? | 01:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | char: ^^^ | 01:52 |
| char | sorry, I was trying to locate the stuff to backup from MyDocs | 01:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I suggest you bulk copy complete Mydocs to your PC | 01:53 |
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| char | that's okay | 01:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you got a free 28GB there | 01:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | modprobe -r is ok? | 01:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or was that to something else? | 01:54 |
| char | bulk copying is ok ;) | 01:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wait! | 01:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I just rebooted my device with modprobe -r ;-D | 01:56 |
| char | I will just copy everything in MyDocs to my computer | 01:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you don't mind a reboot, you still can try if it works for you, since you're supposed to have no mounted uSD | 01:56 |
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| char | DocScrutinizer05: it's rather hard for me to keep up with what you're explaining, let me backup everything first. I'm going to need it whether I reflash it and swap the module or tweak the existing installation | 01:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if modprobe -r omap_hsmmc works and a lsmod doesn't show omap_hsmmc any more, download the file and try the modprobe -vnfd ~user omap_hsmmc which is still dryrun and shouldn't cause _anything_ except diagnotic output | 01:58 |
| kerio | ooh is that a replacement omap_hsmmc that pretend that the cover is always on | 01:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 01:58 |
| kerio | i probably want that | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 01:59 |
| kerio | since my swap is on usd | 01:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and I'm out for a beer now, kerio could you help char a bit through that enterprise? | 02:00 |
| kerio | dude wtf it's 1am | 02:00 |
| kerio | i'm about to go to sleep | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-D | 02:00 |
| kerio | why are you going out for a beer | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | because it tastes better when I nag the bartender ;-) | 02:01 |
| kerio | on a thursday, even | 02:01 |
| kerio | i mean, technically it's friday now | 02:01 |
| kerio | but that's not what normal people mean when they say they're going out friday night | 02:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | plus I just saved 3 beer I'd otherwise owned char when I hadn't tested modprobe -r omap_hsmmc ;-) I will consume those now :-) | 02:08 |
| char | man, it's taking ages and I'm about to fall asleep in front of the screen | 02:10 |
| char | I'm saving everything we wrote | 02:10 |
| char | will resume soon :\ | 02:10 |
| char | thanks everybody for all the great support | 02:11 |
| char | goodnight *_* | 02:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | m8 | 02:19 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | n8 even | 02:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | to whom it may concern: CONFIG_BUSYBOX_CONFIG_BOOTCHARTD=y http://i.imgur.com/aBayOwU.png <buZz> just init=/sbin/bootchartd , it starts /sbin/init itself <buZz> init=/sbin/bootchartd bootchart_init=/etc/preinit | 18:54 |
| buZz | <3 | 18:55 |
| buZz | DocScrutinizer05: i remembered the existance of that tool from my old days of running gentoo and optimizing each and every millisecond of boottime away :D | 18:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | :-)) | 18:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | many thanks! | 18:55 |
| buZz | welcome ;) | 18:56 |
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| L29Ah | cute stuff | 19:36 |
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| Vajb_ | hmm it seems that our local weather service makes my device to reboot | 21:28 |
| Vajb_ | probably bgecause of unresponsiveness after it eats all my memory or something like that | 21:29 |
| Vajb_ | note to self "look at the weather, not forecast" | 21:30 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 21:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 22:30 |
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| Venemo_N900 | success!! | 23:23 |
| Venemo_N900 | re-soldered my usb | 23:23 |
| KotCzarny | was it hard? | 23:23 |
| Sicelo | Venemo_N900: yay! that's nice :) | 23:23 |
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| Venemo_N900 | not as hard as expected | 23:24 |
| Venemo_N900 | just needed a thin soldering tip | 23:25 |
| Venemo_N900 | could not use the original connector as it had a broken pin | 23:25 |
| Venemo_N900 | so | 23:25 |
| Venemo_N900 | bent a THD microusb port to my will | 23:25 |
| Venemo_N900 | cool stuff | 23:26 |
| Venemo_N900 | I'll never know why I let the N900 go | 23:26 |
| Venemo_N900 | it is nicer than I remebered | 23:27 |
| Venemo_N900 | however... do we have a better browser than the default? | 23:27 |
| Sicelo | sadly, not really | 23:32 |
| Venemo_N900 | uh. | 23:32 |
| Venemo_N900 | web standards have evolved since 2009 | 23:32 |
| Sicelo | Opera 12, Fennec 17 (thumb only?), QMLBrowser (doesn't work so well for me) | 23:32 |
| ceene | i keep telling people about midori on top of easy debian | 23:32 |
| Sicelo | yes, midori works good :) | 23:33 |
| Venemo_N900 | uh. | 23:33 |
| ceene | qmlbrowser will be usable after my ssl patch for qt makes it to the repos | 23:33 |
| ceene | congrats, by the way! | 23:33 |
| Venemo_N900 | thanks | 23:38 |
| Venemo_N900 | we'll see how long it will last | 23:38 |
| Venemo_N900 | guess I could've just drilled some holes in the pcb and mounted a through hole microusb | 23:39 |
| Venemo_N900 | wasn't sure if there are traces below, though | 23:39 |
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| Sicelo | should last forever :) ... hope you strengthened the port on the sides | 23:44 |
| Venemo_N900 | yes | 23:44 |
| Venemo_N900 | even scratched off some solder mask to add more solder | 23:45 |
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| Venemo_N900 | there is one thing I'm really surprised about | 23:48 |
| Venemo_N900 | it's been 7 years and still noone got pissed enough to fix the app manager | 23:48 |
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