| Sicelo | it's been fixed a bit :) | 00:00 |
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| Sicelo | ~speedy-ham | 00:00 |
| Sicelo | infobot: ? | 00:00 |
| Sicelo | Venemo_N900: and i think many of us just use apt | 00:00 |
| Venemo_N900 | yeah | 00:00 |
| Sicelo | but yes, ham is a little faster now .. speedy-ham .. dunno why the factoid isn't work | 00:01 |
| Sicelo | *working | 00:01 |
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| Venemo_N900 | no results for apt-cache search speedy-ham | 00:02 |
| Sicelo | it's still called ham .. just improved. i think it's there in cssu-testing by the default | 00:03 |
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| Sicelo | ~speedyham | 00:04 |
| infobot | SpeedyHAM is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb. SpeedyHAM is included in CSSU-testing now | 00:04 |
| Sicelo | Venemo_N900: ^^ | 00:04 |
| Venemo_N900 | ah | 00:04 |
| Venemo_N900 | how do I enable cssu testing? | 00:04 |
| Sicelo | on tmo there are big buttons for all flavors of cssu | 00:05 |
| Venemo_N900 | okay, will go look | 00:05 |
| Venemo_N900 | found it, now upgrading | 00:12 |
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| KotCzarny | um | 00:55 |
| KotCzarny | speedyham is included in cssu | 00:55 |
| KotCzarny | o.o | 00:55 |
| KotCzarny | that factoid should point to cssu not the .deb | 00:55 |
| Sicelo | even in stable? | 00:56 |
| Sicelo | the factoid does say it is available in testing | 00:56 |
| KotCzarny | http://repository.maemo.org/community/pool/fremantle/free/h/hildon-application-manager/ | 00:59 |
| KotCzarny | hum | 00:59 |
| KotCzarny | few versions behind, but still there | 01:01 |
| KotCzarny | 3 years older tho | 01:01 |
| KotCzarny | ahm, factoid points to community-devel :P | 01:01 |
| Venemo_j | :D | 01:02 |
| KotCzarny | still, i would go rather -thumb than -devel :P | 01:02 |
| Sicelo | there's no cssu-devel, is there? :) | 01:05 |
| Venemo_j | iirc there is just testing | 01:06 |
| Sicelo | -devel is basically a staging area, not tied to cssu | 01:06 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, yes, dragons be there | 01:06 |
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| Venemo_ | good night! | 01:33 |
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| luke-jr | any reason GPS wouldn't work in Switzerland? | 08:00 |
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| freemangordon | luke-jr: no data roaming? | 08:15 |
| luke-jr | freemangordon: using wifi | 08:20 |
| freemangordon | hmm, not sure agps works over wifi | 08:21 |
| luke-jr | :/ | 08:21 |
| * luke-jr would have expected 15-30 min lock regardless of AGPS | 08:21 | |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 08:22 |
| freemangordon | unless signal is weak | 08:22 |
| ds3 | neutrality requires military systems such as GPS be blocked? :D | 08:49 |
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| jonwil | hi | 10:46 |
| Cor-Ai | hello | 10:52 |
| Vajb_ | will wdq change to 1 if charger is connected or i need to remove it first? Related to bme. | 10:54 |
| Sicelo | wdq, or vdq? | 10:57 |
| Sicelo | VDQ is set to 1 when battery gets full. It remains 1 until a charger is connected again, when it gets set to 0 until charge is complet again. when VDQ is 0, then battery calibration will not take place | 11:02 |
| Vajb_ | yes vdq, but that doesn't state if it turns to 1 if charger is connected and battery is "full" | 11:04 |
| Sicelo | yes, becomes 1 while charger is connected :) | 11:05 |
| Vajb_ | :) ok | 11:06 |
| Vajb_ | i think i have to use "partial charge" to get my new dualpolarcell battery calibrated | 11:07 |
| Sicelo | afaik that won't work | 11:07 |
| Vajb_ | it had 3,7v left when phone decided this calibration is invalid | 11:07 |
| Vajb_ | oh | 11:08 |
| Sicelo | VDQ needs to be 1 until discharge cycle is complete ... see what i said above: the moment you plug in a charger during discharge, VDQ becomes 0 | 11:08 |
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| Vajb_ | yes i know, but now it was 1 and suddenly when charge dropped to 3,7v it went to 0 without me doing anything | 11:10 |
| Sicelo | that also happens once in a while :) | 11:11 |
| Vajb_ | happened to me also when i moved from single polarcell to mugen | 11:11 |
| Vajb_ | mugen wasn't too good at quality | 11:11 |
| KotCzarny | o.O | 11:13 |
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| Maxdamantus | I think you basically need to confuse it by discharging quickly the first time. | 11:26 |
| Maxdamantus | There's some rule involving 12.5% or something of the LMD. | 11:26 |
| Vajb_ | yup i know | 11:26 |
| Vajb_ | i guess i charge it to max and stream media from web till it dies | 11:27 |
| Maxdamantus | Just leave the camera LEDs on. | 11:27 |
| Vajb_ | but so far im happy with my dual setup | 11:27 |
| KotCzarny | i think transmitting data is even more power hungry | 11:27 |
| KotCzarny | so start scp'ing big file too | 11:27 |
| Maxdamantus | You want something that's consistent. | 11:28 |
| KotCzarny | just dont 'splode it | 11:28 |
| Maxdamantus | like the LEDs left on. | 11:28 |
| Vajb_ | 28h of my normal heavy use and it went to 3,7v just. Mugen would have died in 12h mark, about | 11:28 |
| Vajb_ | my heavy use is constantly checking facebook while listening to music ;) | 11:29 |
| Maxdamantus | er, not 12.5%*LMD, but NAC/16 | 11:30 |
| Maxdamantus | er, NAC >= LMD/16 | 11:30 |
| Maxdamantus | If you were monitoring it during your failed calibration, it was probably sitting at about NAC = LMD/16 for a few hours, then VDQ would switch to 0 and NAC would continue decreasing. | 11:32 |
| Vajb_ | Lmd was 2048 and now i expect it to be around 3200 | 11:32 |
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| KotCzarny | it will be 2200-2400 probably | 11:33 |
| Maxdamantus | Two of them? I imagine 3000 | 11:33 |
| Maxdamantus | My single one was measured at around 1600 the first few calibrations. | 11:34 |
| Maxdamantus | dunno if it scales linearly though. | 11:35 |
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| Vajb | damned gprs | 11:39 |
| Vajb | i was saying: | 11:39 |
| Vajb | Lmd was 2048 and now i expect it to be around 3200 | 11:39 |
| Maxdamantus | Yeah. I'd suggest charging it and leaving it with the camera LEDs on. | 11:40 |
| Maxdamantus | (for a first, inaccurate, calibtation) | 11:41 |
| Vajb | ok, thx for the camera hint. Never crossed my mind. | 11:50 |
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| ceene | prrrrfffffffffffff | 12:21 |
| ceene | banned again | 12:21 |
| ceene | without any cause | 12:21 |
| ceene | as i haven't even tried to log in in a week | 12:21 |
| KotCzarny | maybe you got on the scheduled bans list | 12:28 |
| KotCzarny | or they ban now users that dont use the network for a week | 12:28 |
| ceene | that wouldn't make much sense :s | 12:28 |
| ceene | don't know | 12:28 |
| ceene | i'm really just about to give up | 12:29 |
| ceene | i can't send nor receive messages yet | 12:29 |
| Sicelo | i have two available numbers :) | 12:29 |
| ceene | and i get banned even if i don't do nothing at all | 12:29 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 12:30 |
| ceene | Sicelo: we may try with one of them if you want, but last time i coudln't even register | 12:30 |
| ceene | whatsapp is not liking your company or whatever | 12:30 |
| Sicelo | lol | 12:30 |
| enyc | moopmeep | 12:30 |
| ceene | vectis3 has offered me his number | 12:30 |
| ceene | but seems not to be online right now | 12:30 |
| ceene | i need to debug why i'm not generating right session cipher keys | 12:31 |
| ceene | but even if i manage to do that... what does it matter, if i'll get banned in two days? | 12:31 |
| KotCzarny | well, it will solve one bug | 12:31 |
| KotCzarny | nd sometimes bugs have the same cause | 12:32 |
| ceene | that's true, yes | 12:32 |
| ceene | fuck, birds are making a nest on my gas chimney | 12:33 |
| Sicelo | is it summer? :P | 12:34 |
| ceene | yes | 12:35 |
| ceene | but if they block gas fumes | 12:35 |
| ceene | my heater won't work | 12:35 |
| ceene | as it will shut itself | 12:35 |
| KotCzarny | i can get you code from my gf number too if you need/want | 12:42 |
| ceene | yes, please, that'll be great | 12:43 |
| ceene | i'll need number, country and provider (or mnc and mcc) | 12:44 |
| KotCzarny | k, let me sms her | 12:46 |
| ceene | if you had whatsapp you could do it for free... | 12:46 |
| ceene | but it wouldn't matter to us then :D | 12:46 |
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| ceene | i think i'm gonna start one day porting yappari to use telegram | 12:55 |
| ceene | seems more feasible right now | 12:56 |
| ceene | and people will be happy as well, maybe not as much | 12:56 |
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| ceene | birds evicted | 14:33 |
| ceene | at least i've done one useful thing today | 14:33 |
| ceene | one hour and a half later | 14:33 |
| ceene | http://imgur.com/a/PSsOR | 14:47 |
| KotCzarny | pah, you didnt use the flamethrower | 14:50 |
| ceene | blocked | 15:04 |
| ceene | fine | 15:04 |
| ceene | great | 15:04 |
| ceene | i couldn't even register | 15:04 |
| ceene | i've already blocked KotCzarny and his gf's number | 15:04 |
| ceene | that doesn't make any fucking sense | 15:05 |
| ceene | does that mean | 15:05 |
| ceene | that i can block people all around? | 15:05 |
| ginggs | ceene: please package your whatsapp blocker application :) | 15:07 |
| KotCzarny | ceene, no worries, we dont use crapsapp | 15:08 |
| KotCzarny | ceene, one thought, does roaming affect initial registeration info? | 15:09 |
| KotCzarny | play gsm is the network that roams on most of the other network towers here | 15:09 |
| ceene | it shouldn't, the phone extracts this information from the sim | 15:10 |
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| ceene | it's the sim's provider's network mcc and mnc what is needed to register | 15:10 |
| ceene | i guess sms may not be received while on roaming | 15:11 |
| ceene | well, that's idiotic also, you can send an sms to anyone no matter where he is | 15:11 |
| ceene | so... don't know, really :/ | 15:11 |
| ceene | maybe they're changing registration procedure too | 15:11 |
| Sicelo | hey ginggs :) | 15:15 |
| ginggs | hi Sicelo | 15:15 |
| Sicelo | ceene: blocked during registration already? 0.o | 15:16 |
| ceene | yep :s | 15:16 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 15:17 |
| KotCzarny | try another ip/isp ? | 15:17 |
| ceene | maybe | 15:18 |
| ceene | next time i'll avoid using this computer | 15:18 |
| ceene | but don't know | 15:18 |
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| ceene | it's all quite frustrating | 15:18 |
| Sicelo | you were using wget? could it be that the registration URL is different now? | 15:18 |
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| ceene | i've used yowsup directly for this | 15:19 |
| ceene | i've managed to get registration sms | 15:19 |
| ceene | i got this | 15:20 |
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| ceene | INFO:yowsup.common.http.warequest:{"status":"fail","reason":"temporarily_unavailable","retry_after":3600} | 15:20 |
| ceene | and then {"status":"fail","reason":"blocked"} | 15:20 |
| ceene | :/ | 15:20 |
| KotCzarny | it could be something as simple as a cookie to get you blocked | 15:21 |
| KotCzarny | (and block history reaching some threshold) | 15:22 |
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| Venemo | hey | 15:32 |
| Venemo | looks like CSSU has some dependency issues | 15:32 |
| Venemo | http://pastebin.com/mK28aAhx | 15:37 |
| Sicelo | Venemo: we don't dist upgrade on maemo :)] | 15:38 |
| KotCzarny | he he | 15:39 |
| Venemo | plain upgrade doesn't wanna upgrade some packages either | 15:39 |
| Venemo | and mp-fremantle-community-pr has missing dependencies too | 15:40 |
| KotCzarny | venemo, you were told to follow cssu install exactly | 15:40 |
| Venemo | turns out, cssu was already installed, all I did yesterday was switch to its testing version and ran apt-get update and upgrade | 15:41 |
| KotCzarny | so, no dep problems, you just broke the packages | 15:42 |
| KotCzarny | he he | 15:42 |
| Maxdamantus | Earthquake. | 15:44 |
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| Venemo | uh. | 15:48 |
| Venemo | what did I break? | 15:48 |
| Venemo | mp-fremantle-community-pr depends on packages that aren't in the repos | 15:48 |
| KotCzarny | which one? | 15:49 |
| KotCzarny | also, list mp-fremantle-community-pr version | 15:49 |
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| Venemo | http://pastebin.com/Yt0mjK8x | 16:00 |
| APic | Nice one | 16:01 |
| Venemo | not sure what is wrong | 16:04 |
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| Venemo | by the way, since the official nokia sources are out... I downloaded the N900 firmware images from somewhere | 16:07 |
| Venemo | but | 16:07 |
| Venemo | is there a trustworthy source of their MD5 sums? | 16:07 |
| KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 16:09 |
| infobot | somebody said maemo-repos was http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 16:09 |
| KotCzarny | also: | 16:10 |
| KotCzarny | ~tabletsdev | 16:10 |
| infobot | [tabletsdev] http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads, or http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/ | 16:10 |
| Venemo | are those links trustworth? | 16:10 |
| Venemo | are those links trustworthy? | 16:10 |
| KotCzarny | muarf is ran by bencoh | 16:11 |
| KotCzarny | and bencoh is | 16:11 |
| Venemo | awesome | 16:15 |
| KotCzarny | probably /sys | 16:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrrepos | 17:46 |
| infobot | [jrrepos] http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing-cmdline | 17:47 |
| infobot | i guess flashing-cmdline is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-04-09.log.html#t2016-04-09T01:18:12 | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Venemo: ^^^ | 17:48 |
| Venemo | thanks, will take a look | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's 'my' stuff so I can say there's nothing bad in it from my side. I can't guarantee for the mirror repos but they behaved so far | 17:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the flashing-cmdline has all you need, regarding downloads of images and md5ums | 17:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all checked to be 100% genuine | 17:59 |
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| Venemo | awesome | 19:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | so "~flashing" is just "copy this into your linux PCs terminal" and you're done | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, you also need to hit enter. The rest is automatically resp guided | 19:19 |
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| Venemo | thank you DocScrutinizer05 | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yw, hope it works flawlessly for you. If not, please let me know | 19:28 |
| Venemo | will do. | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, there's one nasty thing I can't handle: you need the libusb0.1.4_32bit on your system | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | your PC | 19:29 |
| Venemo | I got libusb-0.1.5-6.fc23.i686 | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I rhink you need the 32bit version | 19:29 |
| Venemo | that is it | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, ok | 19:30 |
| Venemo | i686 is just another fancy name for it :) | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I can't handle it at all, it's different on each distro | 19:30 |
| Venemo | no problem, let's hope 0.1.5 is compatible with 0.1.4 | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you'll notice if flasher loads and does something, or just complains about missing file or whatever | 19:31 |
| Venemo | yeah. | 19:32 |
| Venemo | I can grab the old version too if needed | 19:32 |
| Venemo | will let you know how it goes, but now I gotta rush off | 19:32 |
| Venemo | see you later! :) | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o/ | 19:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder if a "LD_PRELOAD=./libusb0.1.4_32b.so flasher ..." would work, for a libusb0.1.4_32b.so shipped together with the flasher | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm, where to get an "alien" libusb0.1.4 to test that on my system? | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I gather the ARM version from maemo won't work on a PC ;-D | 19:41 |
| kerio | qemu-user dat shit | 19:44 |
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| enyc | DocScrutinizer05: http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libu/libusb/ ?? | 19:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or https://packages.debian.org/stretch/i386/libusb-0.1-4/download ;-) thanks anyway | 19:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/21643108 | 19:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmmmmm | 19:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | worth it? | 19:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/74978496 | 20:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/17328428 | 20:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: enyc: $whoever: could you please test new version of flash-it-all? | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing-cmdline | 21:16 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, flashing-cmdline is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-04-09.log.html#t2016-04-09T01:18:12 | 21:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | anybody around? | 21:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, I hope I generally fixed the libusb issue, please let me know if it works for you | 21:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (wget http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz -O - 2>/dev/null| tar xvz)&&cd maemo-my-private-workdir&&sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 21:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's actually working that fast that it took me a 10s until I understood there was no error | 22:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | downloading and extracting a humble 60kB is really fast nowadays ;-) | 22:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | added a note to http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/ | 22:19 |
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| Pali | interesting.... https://media.blackhat.com/bh-us-11/Miller/BH_US_11_Miller_Battery_Firmware_Public_WP.pdf | 23:40 |
| Pali | apple uses TI bq charging chips inside its batteries | 23:40 |
| Pali | I did not know that it is possible to reflash firmware in bq chips... | 23:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | it is | 23:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | when you got access to Vprg pin | 23:42 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | thats why may batteries got a hole somewhere, to contact the Vprg | 23:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | Pali: seen my nasty hack above? | 23:44 |
| Pali | which? | 23:44 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | LD_PRELOAD libusb | 23:44 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | works :-P | 23:45 |
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| Pali | rename libusb file to libusb-0.1.so.4 and then call with LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$PWD ./flasher-3.5 | 23:45 |
| Pali | better then LD_PRELOAD | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hmm, pondered that, but more complicated | 23:47 |
| Pali | but thats correct, you tell dynamic linker that it should search for libraries in $PWD | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | just it needs libs from elsewhere too | 23:48 |
| Pali | LD_LIBRARY_PATH are additional libs | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ooh | 23:48 |
| Pali | you can also LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$PWD:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ./flasher-3.5 | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | take precedence over default? | 23:49 |
| Pali | in case you already have something in $LD_LIBRARY_PATH | 23:49 |
| Pali | yes, that path should be preferred | 23:49 |
| Pali | but you can test it | 23:49 |
| Pali | run: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$PWD:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ldd ./flasher-3.5 | 23:49 |
| Pali | ldd will show you path to all libraries which are loaded | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | youre prolly right but I was lazy and it seems to work | 23:50 |
| Sicelo009N | nice info there Pali (about batteries) | 23:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | anyway | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~flashing-cmdline | 23:52 |
| infobot | from memory, flashing-cmdline is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-04-09.log.html#t2016-04-09T01:18:12 | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | more than ever | 23:52 |
| KotCzarny | pali: it may be . instead of $PWD | 23:53 |
| Pali | yes, you can use also . | 23:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | please give it a test | 23:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | btw the dirty part in that hack is not the ld-preload but delivering an arbitrary lib | 23:59 |
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