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Siceloincidentally, i've been looking at icecast2 for n900. we've got the server in the repos00:02
Siceloand also a client, qice00:02
KotCzarnyit could also work as a video player in similar setup too, though video quality is low via cvbs cable00:06
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DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: so what's your status regarding ?04:49
povbotBug 9150: Device doesn't respond via UI. syslog reports HWRecoveryResetSGX: SGX Hardware Recovery triggered, sgx_misr eating all CPU04:49
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DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: ((another N900 thing to understand is dsme)) it's rather simple, except a few detail things around dbus. dsmetool --help04:54
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SiceloDocScrutinizer05: has not happened again for now08:59
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DocScrutinizer05it's sounding weird but a lot of bugreporters claim - directly or implicitly - that the PVR trouble only occurs when they are on cellular and doing whatever sort of communication (data download, SMS, inbound call...)09:15
DocScrutinizer05particularly with poor signal09:16
DocScrutinizer05downloading lots if tiles with marble seems to trigger the issue more or less instantly (within minutes)09:18
DocScrutinizer05s/seems to/allegedly/09:19
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Siceloyeah, although in my case device was just laying on table with no programs open, except xterminal->ssh09:42
Siceloi was napping at the time :)09:42
KotCzarnyyou never know what happens in those tiny black boxes09:42
KotCzarnythere might be hidden life09:42
Siceloof course09:52
Siceloalthough not of the nature described in the bug. unfortunately the bug died the death of dozens other bug reports ... with no really good explanation about causes, or solutions. it ended that it was more a fight than anything else09:53
Siceloi doubt it will happen again too soon on my N90009:55
DocScrutinizer05((no programs open)) would be nice to know if the modem did a re-register at that time10:00
DocScrutinizer05or some inbound (or even outbound) data got transferred10:00
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Siceloon (my) N900 there's always "Received Phone.Net.registration_status_change"10:09
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DocScrutinizer05let me put it this way: if it was _really_ the cmt TX that kills PVR, we're completely out of luck since that's a complete WONTFIX10:17
DocScrutinizer05hw level10:17
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DocScrutinizer05so we rather should check if *maybe* it's related to cgroups changes etc10:17
DocScrutinizer05also the linux kernel driver for PVR could use some scrutiny if it maybe does silly things, after all I doubt that the PVR resets itself completely autonomously without *any* help from kernel, if only for uploading some init values or whatever10:21
DocScrutinizer05and last not least the PVR blob itself (did I read 'microkernel'?) has some leaked sources afaik. If not for this particular version, so maybe nevertheless with the buggy code in it10:23
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DocScrutinizer05once you spotted the bug in one PVR blob version's sourcecode, you could find and binary-patch it in other blob versions too, as long as they have the same bug10:38
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KotCzarnyhmm, is a7 instruction set compatible with a8 used in n900?11:06
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enycDocScrutinizer05: im actually not finding what 'PVR' is in this context!11:50
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enycdreaded driver related fun ;p11:54
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OksanaaGCompris is eating 36%CPU when user is doing nothing. It's also completely not-maemonised (press 2 shift keys at the same time, really?). And it has unacknowledged dependency on libmikmod212:23
OksanaaMoves slowly (because eats lots of CPU?) screen will be in shambles from frustrated user12:24
Oksanaaleif is nice, but cannot handle too fast clicking (crashes) and should be re-written in GTK+C12:25
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zamn900again yappari is that unfortunate app in these days13:15
zamn900what's wrong?13:15
zamn900it updated to version 2.0.2813:16
zamn900but it's a hollow app13:16
zamn900hollow update I mean13:16
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zamn900holy crap I already used the previous versione once I found out this new one was empty13:22
zamn900so what am I banned?13:23
zamn900and about stay tuned ... how?13:23
zamn900I am aware btw of off the record implementation of whatsapp13:23
zamn900how can that be so difficult... I don't know... don't realize why...13:24
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ceenejust keep reading the thread in case something happens13:39
zamn900maybe I will come here on our chat13:41
ceeneFloating point exception (core dumped)13:49
ceenebut there's no core13:49
ceeneeven when -c: core file size (blocks)        unlimited13:50
ceene(that's on the n900 itself)13:50
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ceeneah, that's gonna be something that i installed14:02
ceenericho core dump14:02
ceeneor something like that14:02
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ceenei still don't know the origin of that exception :/14:44
ceenethere's some empty variable whose origin i don't understand14:45
ceeneeven more so when i think this exact same code worked yesterday...14:45
Linkandzeldawould it be hard on the n900's battery to make a script which checks for server uptime and beeps like crazy when something goes down?14:58
DocScrutinizer05depends on how often15:00
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DocScrutinizer05scripts with a sleep 30 have little impact on battery life15:01
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DocScrutinizer05sleep 300 even better15:01
DocScrutinizer05I just can't make all sense of "checks for server uptime" and "when something goes down"15:02
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LinkandzeldaDocScrutinizer05: my plan was just to ping once and if there is no reply then its down15:08
DocScrutinizer05hmm sounds pretty simple, I could recommend manpages once more ;-)15:09
Vajbyappari .27 still works for me btw15:09
Sicelonice. :)15:13
DocScrutinizer05while ping -w1 -qn &>/dev/null; do sleep 60;done;playsound loudalarm.wav15:16
DocScrutinizer05I dunno if you wanna run this from a *mobile* device though. Not because of battery but because of ... mobile and connectivity15:17
LinkandzeldaDocScrutinizer05: any reason not to make it run as a cron?15:18
DocScrutinizer05there's no cron on maemo15:19
DocScrutinizer05no decent one15:19
DocScrutinizer05use alarmed15:19
DocScrutinizer05or alarmd15:19
DocScrutinizer05but why?15:19
DocScrutinizer05apt-get install alarmed15:20
DocScrutinizer05when you like excellent app with both GUI and cmdline interface15:21
Siceloand it works verrry well :)15:21
DocScrutinizer05only thing that lacks iirc:15:22
* Sicelo uses it for logrotate & other stuff15:22
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# ll `which alarmed`15:22
DocScrutinizer05lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2014-12-06 12:41 /usr/bin/alarmed -> /opt/alarmed/alarmed.py15:22
DocScrutinizer05you don't want to type /opt/alarmed/ in shell, so make that symlink15:23
DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: I hope so, I mentored it15:23
DocScrutinizer05half the options are my suggestion15:24
DocScrutinizer05also note that alarmed depends on alarmd, and the latter has a bugfixed version in CSSU15:25
DocScrutinizer05apt-get alarmclient15:25
DocScrutinizer05alarmclient --help15:25
DocScrutinizer05have fun, know alarmclient and enjoy alarmed15:26
DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: you give me ideas15:26
DocScrutinizer05anyway cron / alarmed is prolly overkill for a simple "while ping -w1 -qn $SERVERIP &>/dev/null; do sleep 60;done;playsound loudalarm.wav"15:28
DocScrutinizer05Linkandzelda: ((any reason?)) quick&dirty15:29
* DocScrutinizer05 almost said nice 'n sleazy15:29
Linkandzeldafair enough15:31
Siceloi don't know what -w1 -qn does .. /me check man page15:32
DocScrutinizer05-w1 is wait for 1 reply -n is do no DNS lookup, and -q supposedly does only summary output, though the latter seems to not work as expected15:33
DocScrutinizer05note that this isn't really thoroughly tested15:34
DocScrutinizer05ping options are a tiny bit weird15:34
DocScrutinizer05I searched for a "abort on first packet loss" but that doesn't seem to exist15:35
DocScrutinizer05you got other funny options though, try -a ;-)15:35
Linkandzeldabit of a shame about the cron, whats not good with it exactly?15:38
DocScrutinizer05cron is not made for zeroclock architecture15:40
SiceloLinkandzelda: nothing. nothing's bad with alarmd either :)15:40
DocScrutinizer05alarmd does nifty stuff to conserve energy15:40
Siceloalarmd is *already* on every N900 .. so may be better to just use it15:40
DocScrutinizer05while cron is braindamaged on embedded15:41
DocScrutinizer05but honestly just use a do loop with a sleep $N15:41
Linkandzeldaalarmd sounds like something i can use then15:41
DocScrutinizer05yes, you can use alarmd, and you could even use alarmclient, but alarmed is so much nicer15:42
DocScrutinizer05  - even comes with a cron-like cmdline syntax option15:44
DocScrutinizer05~seen shapeshifter15:45
infobotshapeshifter <> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 42d 22h 52m 17s ago, saying: 'DocScrutinizer05: ping doesn't work'.15:45
enycDocScrutinizer05: also why would you "while ping -w1 -qn" .... is actual IBM ip address15:47
DocScrutinizer059.9.9.9 is my birthday ;-P15:47
enycDocScrutinizer05: and are addresses pollutedby such rubbish generation and excluded on purpose from assignment ...15:48
DocScrutinizer05I used after
enycthere was a whole study on this etc15:48
DocScrutinizer05heck, I hope Linkandzelda is capable to replace with the IP of own server to monitor15:49
kerioping, if it doesn't work then google is down15:55
kerioor more likely, your internet connection is down15:55
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DocScrutinizer05which is exactly why I questioned the purpose of running this on N900. I mean how often N900 connectivity is down for a while16:08
DocScrutinizer05you'd at least need a connectivity check aka ping to known good target like before you check your own server16:08
DocScrutinizer05you don't want false positives (alarms) just because N900 switches from WLAN to GPRS16:09
DocScrutinizer05or other way round16:09
LinkandzeldaDocScrutinizer05: makes sense, then i'll do that as well to check google16:11
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_5a54a_Hello17:33 seems to bock my ip17:34
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Siceloso this SGX thing happened again today ... again device was not being actively used18:08
Siceloanyway, no time for it right now18:13
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sixwheeledbeast_5a54a_: proxy or tor?18:20
infobotwell, unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see
_5a54a_Is PIA being blocked?18:27
azkayAnyone know what would stop programs from playing sound on my n900? stock media player plays music fine, but no other media players have sound18:32
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Sicelosuch as which player?18:33
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Sicelocheck that you're not in silent profile. a non mafw-based player will usually go silent too :)18:34
azkayWeird, now everything is working fine. lol18:35
azkayI spent an hour on the bus 2 days ago using up my data downloading different players to get it working, haha.18:35
azkayMust have been the profile, I would have had it on silent before. Now it's on normal18:35
azkayThanks :)18:35
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sixwheeledbeast_5a54a_: I believe the list from stopforumspam is used18:49
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ceenethe guy from purple-whatsapp has also ended the project21:48
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Siceloceene: okay22:54
Siceloso ... light dims?22:54
APicCandles ♥22:58
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ceeneSicelo: probably... there's a guy who says he has code for latest protocol version23:44
ceenebut for some reason won't share it yet...23:45
ceenecoderus's libwa should have been working23:46
ceeneand 8mve ported most of yappari to use it23:46
ceenebut for some reason i keep geting login failure23:47
ceeneso right now i'm quite frustrated23:47

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